tvh earlier in the week had an ugly announcement that. stock traded down 22%, dragging retail down.own, 12 and change, and then things are a little more -- like ralph loren down. so it's not company specific, although you could say the warning from tvh, which says the consumer is spending less and is weakening is concerning for retail. >> it's down 11% year-to-date. >> kohl's? that's not company specific. it was flat. it was flat before, now down 12%. >> i know, but flat -- >> i'm just saying that's retailers in general. if you don't want to open retailers, then don't own retailers. >> that's what i was alluding to. do you want to be in those stocks? >> you have to be choosey, and we have seen lulu get crushed. but you can look at companies like kohl's where it has a reasonable multiple and y sai'm comfortable with this. >> "final trades" are next. [crowds cheering] nice shot, marcus! sweet, turn simulation off. tssk, tssk, not so fast. what, why? did you forget marcus? forget what? your chem exam? uggh? flashcard time! the atomic weight of boron. the future isn't scary, not investi