of international relations with the university of southeastern norway, his joining. from oslo and john bosna, journalist, activist and politic analyst is joining me from belgrade, good to see you gentlemen, now uh let's go to glenn first, let's begin, you just heard in the introduction what this is all about, some targets and objectives of uh the joint drills and this is the third time of course that iran, china and russia are taking part in such drills, so let's talk about to begin with about the message that such joint maneuvers can convey. well the, i guess the main message coming forth is that the key or the lot of the largest states on the eurasian continent, so russia, china and iran are increasingly seeking to corporate on security matters and this harmonizes with their efforts of pursuing uh economic integration, we see among these states, they have one more cooperation technical, establishing new transportation corridors, new financial cooperation, so... across the board, so it's quite natural as well to supplement this with more security cooperation as well, and this has been