such interlocutor was worth many thousands of ordinary readers, and these were the vedenskys or, yes, videnskytsky in what -that period. you know, as far as i remember, he said about stables and messes at another speech ; he had a speech at some institute or... technical school in some educational institution in front of students, and there some people from the audience began to tell him replicas give out, shout something, and he said that i don’t perform in the end and chaos, well , that is, he had performances, but somehow the publications didn’t work out at all, now it’s difficult to judge how much he really experienced his fact unpublishability, well, he probably thought about it, a person works every day, lives very hard, very poorly, and does not have, so to speak, such feedback, feedback from the general public and any kind of wide literary recognition, can you imagine it simply due to the artist's imagination, you know, to me you don’t need to imagine this, i was in this situation myself, i actually started writing, it’s very interesting. years ago i had, you know, two starts in litera