sam waksal was someone that she trusted. i met martha because i went out with her daughter for a long time, and alexis introduced me to mom. sam was-- i don't want to say an older gentleman, but substantially older than alexis. i spoke to martha about my business, her business, as well as virtually everything else. hope is brewing in the laboratories of imclone systems. imclone was my biotech company. it was a company that's making great cancer drugs like erbitux. erbitux, it had a lot of potential. and as a result, the stock really popped. do you think that this can be $1 billion drug? i do indeed. martha felt like it was a vote of confidence in her friend that she was a shareholder in the company. that drug is a good drug. it's saving lives. it will save lives. it's a cure for cancer. the company was applying to the food and drug administration to get approval for that drug. so the stock price of imclone depended very, very much on what the fda would determine. we statistically had proven that our drug worked. the erbitux