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we're back with yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. yasmin, what's happening right now? >> reporter: so it all goes back to the documents. we're looking at a query voucher summary, totaling up the amount of payments made to michael cohen from january of 2017 or september of 2017. breaking down the numbers paid out to michael cohen throughout that period. $35,000 a month in every period. an invoice submitted by michael cohen saying according to the retainer, per the retainer, hence the $35,000 paid to michael cohen every year. the break down, $105,000 total from the revokable trust and $315,000 total from donald trump's personal account. each payment going through donald trump himself. important to lay that out, jose, the documentation and, again, going back to the importance of these documents for the jury to understand completely why it is they paid out a total of $420,000 to michael cohen over a period of a year to reimburse him and once again breaking it down to $130,000 that was going to stormy daniels. a $60,000 pay out for a bonus. then the rest of it all for taxes
we're back with yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. yasmin, what's happening right now? >> reporter: so it all goes back to the documents. we're looking at a query voucher summary, totaling up the amount of payments made to michael cohen from january of 2017 or september of 2017. breaking down the numbers paid out to michael cohen throughout that period. $35,000 a month in every period. an invoice submitted by michael cohen saying according to the retainer, per the retainer, hence...
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>> yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse for us. yasmin, take us inside right now. what's happening? >> reporter: yeah, a lot happening so far, right? we're 30 minutes into this thing. we already got a lot. we're getting to the crux of this whole thing. yesterday we heard a lot of incredible testimony from michael cohen. we got to the intent as to why essentially donald trump would have wanted to pay off stormy daniels. we talked about the january 16th and or 17th meeting, michael cohen is unclear about the date in which donald trump, allen weisselberg, michael cohen were in the room in trump tower saying we're going to say legal services rendered, paying you monthly, $35,000 a month per the math done by allen weisselberg on the first republic bank evidence admitted into testimony yesterday. now, we're getting to the crux, guys. i want to read for you a couple of parts of things that have happened so far this morning, talking about the checks and the invoices and the ledgers specifically. let's talk numbers for a moment, just to remind folks before i get into this,
>> yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse for us. yasmin, take us inside right now. what's happening? >> reporter: yeah, a lot happening so far, right? we're 30 minutes into this thing. we already got a lot. we're getting to the crux of this whole thing. yesterday we heard a lot of incredible testimony from michael cohen. we got to the intent as to why essentially donald trump would have wanted to pay off stormy daniels. we talked about the january 16th and or 17th meeting,...
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joining us from outside the new york city courthouse is nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, criminal defense attorney, and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos, and new york law school professor and former manhattan assistant district attorney, rebecca. bring us up to speed on what's happening now. >> reporter: i'm not a lawyer. i'm trying to be one on tv. the way i'm seeing this, and the terms are not lawyerly. the way i'm seeing this as an assembly line, what they're establishing after having this kind of huge witness that is stormy daniels. some of the more important witnesses we're hearing from are the ones building the case for the prosecution and getting to the key of what the case is about, right, which is the document, falsifying the business records, and talking about those signed checks by former president donald trump, and paying off or paying michael cohen and that alleged scheme of $35,000 a month, as this retainer, donald trump put it, allies versus what michael cohen says was his payoff because he had paid stormy daniels $130,000. some of the names we have hea
joining us from outside the new york city courthouse is nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, criminal defense attorney, and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos, and new york law school professor and former manhattan assistant district attorney, rebecca. bring us up to speed on what's happening now. >> reporter: i'm not a lawyer. i'm trying to be one on tv. the way i'm seeing this, and the terms are not lawyerly. the way i'm seeing this as an assembly line, what they're...
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nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, catherine christian, former manhattan assistant district attorney, temidayo agone da williams, former federal prosecutor, and adam pollock, and judge diane keyes l, a retired court judge. yasmin, what's going on right now? >> reporter: ten hours of closing yesterday. here we are, jury instructions happening any moment now. court beginning at 10:00 a.m. donald trump inside the courtroom not making any comments as he was walking in. let's just remind folks where we are and what these charges kind of make up. the falsification of business records to conceal another crime violating of campaign finance laws, violation of new york tax laws, violation of election laws as well. so if you can imagine, these 12 jurors will have to understand and grapple with what exactly these charges are to whether or not they're going to come up with a verdict of guilty and/or not guilty. those jury instructions expected to last about an hour, and then they go into deliberations, when they are i
nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, catherine christian, former manhattan assistant district attorney, temidayo agone da williams, former federal prosecutor, and adam pollock, and judge diane keyes l, a retired court judge. yasmin, what's going on right now? >> reporter: ten hours of closing yesterday. here we are, jury instructions happening any moment now. court beginning at 10:00 a.m. donald trump inside the courtroom not making any comments as he was...
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joining us from the courthouse is nbc's yasmin vossoughian. yasmin, start us off for this block. we're getting into the nitty-gritty of how much cohen was getting paid and these reimbursements. what are jurors hearing? >> reporter: we're getting into the reimbursements, the falsifying of the business records, really the crux of this entire thing and major consequential testimony from mcconney. let's talk numbers if we can. $420,000 we now know was the ultimate payout. let me break it down if i can. that was $60,000 paid out to michael cohen in bonuses. $180,000, $130,000 to davidson reportedly to stormy daniels. the rest of that. >>> $50,000 going to redfin, a tech firm. another $180,000 going towards taxes. a conversation happening with allen weisselberg saying have they paid up michael cohen? what's so consequential is he is saying directly this money was coming from donald trump's personal account. it's important to keep that in mind. he's making the direct connection of not only the payout when it comes to stormy daniels, but the inflated payout of $420,000 for the taxes that
joining us from the courthouse is nbc's yasmin vossoughian. yasmin, start us off for this block. we're getting into the nitty-gritty of how much cohen was getting paid and these reimbursements. what are jurors hearing? >> reporter: we're getting into the reimbursements, the falsifying of the business records, really the crux of this entire thing and major consequential testimony from mcconney. let's talk numbers if we can. $420,000 we now know was the ultimate payout. let me break it down...
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and joining us from outside the courthouse is nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian. so bring us up to speed on what's happening right now in the courtroom? >> reporter: so, you just mentioned her, deborah tarasoff, she is a supervisor for accounts payable. she has been working for the trump organization since 2000. so 24 years. by the way, she is the first current employee for the trump organization to take the stand and testify. she still works for the trump organization. the way i'm seeing this, ana, is completing the circle with the whole process. we're talking about a lot of the paperwork being submitted for evidence, and how they came to make the payoff. we heard from another witness talking about the moneys, the $420,000, which i'm going to break down in a moment. deborah tarasoff was responsible for cutting the checks, the subsequent checks paid out to michael cohen over one year's time in january of 2017. she was the one that was responsible for getting that money, making sure the checks were then transferred to donald trump for signing. either they went up t
and joining us from outside the courthouse is nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian. so bring us up to speed on what's happening right now in the courtroom? >> reporter: so, you just mentioned her, deborah tarasoff, she is a supervisor for accounts payable. she has been working for the trump organization since 2000. so 24 years. by the way, she is the first current employee for the trump organization to take the stand and testify. she still works for the trump organization....
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yasmin vossoughian who was in the courtroom is back with us now. and joining us jury consultant alan tuerkheimer. good to see you both. yasmin, when you were there yesterday we all heard or read about the prosecutor questioning stormy daniels, that jurors, you said, were watching like a tennis match. >> yes. >> describe more of what you observed. >> if you've ever been to a tennis match, you know that your head kind of swivels back and forth. you're just watching that ball. it's as if the ball was question and answer going back and forth. at one point, especially when stormy daniels took the stand, you could see the jurors visibly turn their body towards stormy daniels. if i can paint a picture of the courtroom, you have the judge up there. you have stormy daniels. if i'm looking at the judge, you have stormy daniels to his left. you have donald trump to the right of the judge facing the judge. the prosecution on the other side facing the witness, stormy daniels, and then you have the jury to the right of the witness, stormy daniels and the prosecu
yasmin vossoughian who was in the courtroom is back with us now. and joining us jury consultant alan tuerkheimer. good to see you both. yasmin, when you were there yesterday we all heard or read about the prosecutor questioning stormy daniels, that jurors, you said, were watching like a tennis match. >> yes. >> describe more of what you observed. >> if you've ever been to a tennis match, you know that your head kind of swivels back and forth. you're just watching that ball....
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with us now to talk more about this, msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, outside the courthouse, in manhattan, jeffrey sluman, timothy heefy and christie greenburg. so, yasmin, take us into the courtroom, what is happening right now? >> yeah, let's take a step back and i'll go forward, jose, for a moment, as we talk quickly about the gag order hearing that happened earlier today. there were four potential violations made, it seemed as if judge juan merchan was not as concerned with potentially this gag order violation in which the former president talked about david pecker saying he was a nice guy, more concerned with the attacks on michael cohen and especially concerned with the attacks and/or comments made i should say about the jury saying 95% of the jury was made up of democrats. and, again, i want to warn folks, we're likely not to get a decision on potential violations of this gag order immediately. the last one took about seven days or so, we're expecting the same sort of timeline now. they're now in direct, once again, the people's attorney when it comes to keith davidso
with us now to talk more about this, msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, outside the courthouse, in manhattan, jeffrey sluman, timothy heefy and christie greenburg. so, yasmin, take us into the courtroom, what is happening right now? >> yeah, let's take a step back and i'll go forward, jose, for a moment, as we talk quickly about the gag order hearing that happened earlier today. there were four potential violations made, it seemed as if judge juan merchan was not as...
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. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is live at the courthouse. catherine christian is still with us. also with us, andrew weissmann, former lead prosecutor in robert mueller's special counsel's office. good to have all of you here. so since you just joined us, where would you pick up? >> let's just take the $60,000 that michael cohen said he stole. you know, this is the kind of thing that catherine and i when we were prosecutors and put on witnesses who had done lots of bad things, the defense wants to, and has an obligation to bring out a lot of the bad acts of what they have done before. but very often those bad acts, evidence of it is the witness, in fact, saying it himself or herself. here, michael cohen is the one who provided the evidence of it, and the amount of evidence is one single witness, michael cohen, and one of the things you will probably hear is what we used to argue to the jury, which is when michael cohen says something bad about himself, that should be believed. take it to the bank. and when he says he stole money, which, by the way, the only way people know about
. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is live at the courthouse. catherine christian is still with us. also with us, andrew weissmann, former lead prosecutor in robert mueller's special counsel's office. good to have all of you here. so since you just joined us, where would you pick up? >> let's just take the $60,000 that michael cohen said he stole. you know, this is the kind of thing that catherine and i when we were prosecutors and put on witnesses who had done lots of bad things, the...
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back with us, yasmin vossoughian, katie phang, jeremy salan and tristan snell. yasmin, we showed the picture there outside the courtroom because we don't have cameras in the courtroom. we don't have audio from the courtroom. we do have our reporters who are there and in the overflow room giving us real-time reporting with keith davidson back on the stand right now. where's the prosecution starting with him this morning? >> reporter: getting the real play-by-play, and they are continuing their direct, and then of course it's going to turn to the cross by the former president's attorneys. one thing i'm honing in on, and i want to read for you this exchange, they're focusing on some email exchanges in the final days leading up to the election between keith davidson, dylan howard, michael cohen as well, and davidson is saying this, there was difficulty in communications with michael cohen and i and i had lost trust in what he was telling me, and dylan came in as the mediator because there was a question as to why dylan howard was helping mediate, helping organize th
back with us, yasmin vossoughian, katie phang, jeremy salan and tristan snell. yasmin, we showed the picture there outside the courtroom because we don't have cameras in the courtroom. we don't have audio from the courtroom. we do have our reporters who are there and in the overflow room giving us real-time reporting with keith davidson back on the stand right now. where's the prosecution starting with him this morning? >> reporter: getting the real play-by-play, and they are continuing...
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let's go to yasmin vossoughian to give us more information on the timeline of this trial. yasmin. >> reporter: good morning, guys. good to talk to you this morning. we were expecting close arguments to begin tomorrow as merchan had said on thursday as we went into recess to prepare closing testimony on tuesday. although that is now being shifted to next monday. so preparing for -- actually i would say next tuesday after memorial day weekend. so preparing closing arguments to begin next tuesday after the memorial day weekend. essentially merchan didn't want that much distance between closing arguments and deliberations. if they had begun on tuesday or thursday, we would have gone into deliberations over memorial day weekend. he didn't want that distance. instead, closing arguments beginning on tuesday after memorial day weekend. let's talk about the defense, who they play to bring to the witness stand. there is still this back and forth, as we mentioned early this morning, court beginning at 8:45 this morning, the former commissioner taking the stand. there was back and for
let's go to yasmin vossoughian to give us more information on the timeline of this trial. yasmin. >> reporter: good morning, guys. good to talk to you this morning. we were expecting close arguments to begin tomorrow as merchan had said on thursday as we went into recess to prepare closing testimony on tuesday. although that is now being shifted to next monday. so preparing for -- actually i would say next tuesday after memorial day weekend. so preparing closing arguments to begin next...
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let's bring in yasmin vossoughian who is outside the courthouse. also with us, defense attorney misty maris. and so, yasmin, so far today, this has been another intense day. what has been going on? >> reporter: in the last 30 minutes, a lot of intensity to say the least as ana mentioned. we're now in redirect from the defense here on their own witness. i got to say, just kind of reading the tea leaves here and what we're hearing from inside the courtroom, this testimony so far from robert costello is fairly damning for the defense. they wanted to bring robert costello on the stand to refute michael cohen's testimony to say as we heard from him yesterday that michael cohen never said that donald trump had a relationship with stormy daniels, they never had sex, he never said this was for reimbursement of donald trump, that donald trump never knew about the payment made to stormy daniels. but instead what they're doing, especially during cross examination by susan hoffinger is kind of ticking away at robert costello's credibility. we have talked a lot
let's bring in yasmin vossoughian who is outside the courthouse. also with us, defense attorney misty maris. and so, yasmin, so far today, this has been another intense day. what has been going on? >> reporter: in the last 30 minutes, a lot of intensity to say the least as ana mentioned. we're now in redirect from the defense here on their own witness. i got to say, just kind of reading the tea leaves here and what we're hearing from inside the courtroom, this testimony so far from robert...
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yasmin vossoughian, my colleague, who has been doing a great job with all of this. >> reporter: i mean -- >> you have. "a" for props here. let me ask you about the sandoval aspect, the latter part. is it over? is that whole thing discussed and they're done? >> reporter: i don't think it's ever over. i'm sure chuck and denny can back me up. that's why denny is now a tv lawyer because he hates trial law. i have to mess with denny. even as hope hicks left the stand, they had a brief sandoval hearing to discuss -- just to remind folks what a sandoval hearing is, if the former president decides to take the stand and testify, what is allowed as evidence. todd blanche was offering that if the former president was found in violation of these gag orders in this court, which he has been found in violation of, that could not be admitted into cross-examination. judge juan merchan agreed. he said if he's been found in violation, which he has been, that would be prejudicial in allowing that evidence in. as we remember, the prosecution set forth the evidence that would be allowed in the the former pr
yasmin vossoughian, my colleague, who has been doing a great job with all of this. >> reporter: i mean -- >> you have. "a" for props here. let me ask you about the sandoval aspect, the latter part. is it over? is that whole thing discussed and they're done? >> reporter: i don't think it's ever over. i'm sure chuck and denny can back me up. that's why denny is now a tv lawyer because he hates trial law. i have to mess with denny. even as hope hicks left the stand,...
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. >> i want to bring in nbc's yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse, also with us in studio, two criminal defense attorneys, msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos and duncan levin, former senior staffer at the manhattan district attorney's office. okay. duncan, what is job one for michael cohen and the prosecution team as they move forward? >> they have got to keep him under control. he is an uncontrollable witness. the defense has an uncontrollable client. the prosecution has...
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let's go back out to yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. get us back into what is happening inside in the courtroom at the moment. >> so they're trying to poke holes in the night that the former president and stormy daniels met. and allegedly had sex in that hotel room. during stormy daniels' testimony, she talked about how they didn't have dinner, she was invited up by keith schiller, via donald trump, and then as she got to the hotel room, she was in the hotel room for what she said was about three hours or so, in which she was not fed during that time period. and she thought they were going to go out to dinner, then order into the hotel room. this was her testimony that she gave during direct. however, during this cross examination, susan necheles is trying to poke holes in the testimony by bringing up her former interviews, not only the interview she gave to "in touch" magazine, but the interview she gave to anderson cooper as well. let me walk you through the back and forth we're getting from necheles and daniels when it comes to that
let's go back out to yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. get us back into what is happening inside in the courtroom at the moment. >> so they're trying to poke holes in the night that the former president and stormy daniels met. and allegedly had sex in that hotel room. during stormy daniels' testimony, she talked about how they didn't have dinner, she was invited up by keith schiller, via donald trump, and then as she got to the hotel room, she was in the hotel room for what she...
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yasmin vossoughian, thank you very much. joining us now, former new york assistant attorney general adam pollock, and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. so redirect is beginning. steinglass is questioning davidson. we'll get updates as they come in. let's end where i ended. this is what you brought up coming to air that this pseudonym, david dennison was used in the past. does that matter? >> it does matter. if the prosecution is saying we know this is donald trump, that was his pseudonym, it apparently was also hulk hogans. what the whole cross-examination, redirect, and probably a re-cross was to show that this witness is not very credible or not likable, and i'm surprised that the prosecution didn't bring up some of this witness's bad acts on the direct examination. like, for instance, he was involved in the federal investigation, involved with what he did as hulk hogan. that could have come up under direct examination so the jury doesn't think why didn't the prosecution bring this up. >> the prosecution has been g
yasmin vossoughian, thank you very much. joining us now, former new york assistant attorney general adam pollock, and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. so redirect is beginning. steinglass is questioning davidson. we'll get updates as they come in. let's end where i ended. this is what you brought up coming to air that this pseudonym, david dennison was used in the past. does that matter? >> it does matter. if the prosecution is saying we know this is donald trump, that was his...
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vossoughian, she was actually in the courtroom for daniels' testimony. good to have both of you here. jacob, i noted in an interview, you said that while stormy daniels' testimony was remarkably consistent to what she told you back in 2016, in terms of the facts, you think her feelings have changed. tell us your impressions. >> yes, the story she told about her encounter with donald trump is the same story she told me in 2016, down to all the details, except there are some more details she didn't tell me back then. but back then, her attitude towards it was that it was no biggie. she didn't like him, and it wasn't a positive experience, but at that point, she wasn't saying it affected her negatively or she was upset about it. and i think as she's had time to process it and she's certainly well within her rights to change her feelings about what happened, she feels more negative about it. i think she didn't used the term coercion, but wished it didn't happen. didn't know why she was there, and regrets it. >> there is this ongoing debate about exactly what
vossoughian, she was actually in the courtroom for daniels' testimony. good to have both of you here. jacob, i noted in an interview, you said that while stormy daniels' testimony was remarkably consistent to what she told you back in 2016, in terms of the facts, you think her feelings have changed. tell us your impressions. >> yes, the story she told about her encounter with donald trump is the same story she told me in 2016, down to all the details, except there are some more details...
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we begin with nbc's yasmin vossoughian live outside the courthouse for us once again. walk us through what the jury wanted to hear today, yasmin. >> reporter: they wanted to hear four separate things when it came to testimony, three things with david pecker's testimony, one with michael cohen. when it came to david pecker, they were considering and wanted to hear testimony of an investor meeting he was sitting in on when he got a phone call from donald trump, when donald trump asked him on his opinion on the karen mcdougal case. i'm paraphrasing that craig is a nice girl, and donald trump should pay karen mcdougal to make the story go away. donald trump saying, i don't pay for the stories, they come out. david pecker saying, i think you should pay for this one. i'm going to think about it. i'll get michael cohen on it. he'll get back to you. another about buying karen mcdougal's life rights in which there was back and forth between david pecker and michael cohen. david pecker said he was tearing up the agreement when it came to buying her life rights, michael cohen say
we begin with nbc's yasmin vossoughian live outside the courthouse for us once again. walk us through what the jury wanted to hear today, yasmin. >> reporter: they wanted to hear four separate things when it came to testimony, three things with david pecker's testimony, one with michael cohen. when it came to david pecker, they were considering and wanted to hear testimony of an investor meeting he was sitting in on when he got a phone call from donald trump, when donald trump asked him...
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. >> back with us, yasmin vossoughian, danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst. joining us this hour, maya wiley, former assistant u.s. attorney who is now president of the leadership conference on civil and human right. and misty merits, a defense attorney. good to see you. welcome to the show. yasmin, start us off. what's happening now inside that courtroom? >> reporter: so this is all about the lead-up to august 2018 in which michael cohen pleads guilty...
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yasmin vossoughian, thank you. paul, jim, and danny, you're all going to stay with me. in 60 seconds, judge merchan is now weighing if trump violated his gag order again and what the consequences should be if he did. >>> plus, our reporting team is just getting to the cameras outside the courthouse to give us color about what happened inside, so don't go away. t happd inside, so don't go away ( ♪♪ ) i thought water would help with these dry spots. that's lawn disease. but scotts healthy plus will cure it! lawn disease? been going around. so like other people have it and it's not... pick up a bag of the new scotts turf builder healthy plus lawn food today. feed your lawn. feed it. ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪♪ ) with the push of a button, constant contact's ai tools help you know what to say, even when you don't. hi! constant contact. helping the small stand tall. >>> right now our reporting team from inside the courthouse where donald trump has been just got to our cameras outside the courthouse. let me bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, and msnbc cont
yasmin vossoughian, thank you. paul, jim, and danny, you're all going to stay with me. in 60 seconds, judge merchan is now weighing if trump violated his gag order again and what the consequences should be if he did. >>> plus, our reporting team is just getting to the cameras outside the courthouse to give us color about what happened inside, so don't go away. t happd inside, so don't go away ( ♪♪ ) i thought water would help with these dry spots. that's lawn disease. but scotts...
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so let's bring in the panel joining us now, nbc national news correspondent yasmin vossoughian who's outside the courthouse for us. and also with us, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst, peter baker, and here in the studio, two former manhattan assistant d.a.s, catherine christian and msnbc legal analyst and jeremy saland, criminal defense attorney. >> the jury went from cross-examination and redirect of stormy daniels, the key figure in the case, not legally but sort of dramatically, theatrically to an assistant bookkeeper, a young woman who worked in a supermarket before she was hired by the trump organization, and then found herself sending checks, blank checks by fedex to have 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> and in many ways she's a more important witness than ms. daniels was because this is a falsifying business records case. and if the prosecution has this jury and the jury room debating about whether or not donald trump had sex with that woman, that's a problem. they need to be focused in on did he know what michael cohen was doing. was mi
so let's bring in the panel joining us now, nbc national news correspondent yasmin vossoughian who's outside the courthouse for us. and also with us, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst, peter baker, and here in the studio, two former manhattan assistant d.a.s, catherine christian and msnbc legal analyst and jeremy saland, criminal defense attorney. >> the jury went from cross-examination and redirect of stormy daniels, the key figure in...
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and joining us now, nbc's yasmin vossoughian who was at the court nearly every day of this trial, paul butler is with us, former federal prosecutor and msnbc political analyst, and paul callen, former new york city prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. paul butler, trump saying he didn't want to take the stand because they could have brought up everything from his, quote, unquote, great past. he's acknowledging that they could have asked him about stormy daniels through his business practices. what would that have looked like? >> yeah, so for once trump is right about the law, all of his past misconduct could have been subject to cross examination. if i were the prosecutor, i would have started with did you have sex with stormy daniels. he says that he didn't, and again, i think the jury has a pretty clear idea from that testimony. so we thought a lot about how trump often seems to overrule his lawyers. so why did they call costello? that didn't help trump. they subjected stormy daniels to a much more withering cross examination than hope hicks, even though hope hicks had much more
and joining us now, nbc's yasmin vossoughian who was at the court nearly every day of this trial, paul butler is with us, former federal prosecutor and msnbc political analyst, and paul callen, former new york city prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. paul butler, trump saying he didn't want to take the stand because they could have brought up everything from his, quote, unquote, great past. he's acknowledging that they could have asked him about stormy daniels through his business...
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let's begin with yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse in new york city where the waiting game is son. tell me a little bit more about the instructions the jury got before they went behind closed doors? >> reporter: quite a bit of a waiting game to say the least, chris. inside jury deliberations on a momentous, historical day, they're going to go until 4:30 today. the instructions were quite weighty, to say the least. to say they were complicated is understated. let me walk through the jury instructions. juan merchan taking about an hour and 30 minutes walking through the jury instructions, talking about potential implicit bias, the importance of being a fair juror. do not consider the sentencing when coming up with a verdict. that is the judge's job to consider the sentencing. to consider the testimony, exhibits as well. referring to pecker's testimony, consider his non-prosecution agreement. michael cohen, of the same, to consider his guilty plea as part of his credibility assessment, not to weigh whether or not donald trump is guilty or not guilty. and talking about reasonable
let's begin with yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse in new york city where the waiting game is son. tell me a little bit more about the instructions the jury got before they went behind closed doors? >> reporter: quite a bit of a waiting game to say the least, chris. inside jury deliberations on a momentous, historical day, they're going to go until 4:30 today. the instructions were quite weighty, to say the least. to say they were complicated is understated. let me walk through...
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to yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. this is a witness that was already called up by the prosecution just recently. >> reporter: yeah, she was called up last friday. she testified last friday before hope hicks took the stand. georgia longstreet is a paralegal in the manhattan d.a.'s office, much of her testimony the last time around, i'm expecting it to be similar this time around, of course, setting up for michael cohen. it seems like georgia longstreet, she takes the stand, setting up for major witnesses to come as we saw hope hicks to take the street after georgia longstreet with stormy daniels who took the stand throughout the week, this week. georgia longstreet, her responsibilities inside of the manhattan d.a.'s office is part of scouring social media, she talked about scouring thousands and thousands of social media posts. we know much of donald trump's social media, some admitted for evidence, for instance, if you go after me, i'm going to go after you, we know for instance georgia longstreet could testify to the
to yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse. this is a witness that was already called up by the prosecution just recently. >> reporter: yeah, she was called up last friday. she testified last friday before hope hicks took the stand. georgia longstreet is a paralegal in the manhattan d.a.'s office, much of her testimony the last time around, i'm expecting it to be similar this time around, of course, setting up for michael cohen. it seems like georgia longstreet, she takes the stand,...
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yasmin vossoughian was reminding me. but even this morning it was quite warm in there. how do you feel about how judge merchan has done today? what about what todd blanche did earlier when he was finishing his summation saying you can't send a man to prison based on the testimony of michael cohen. the judge does was not happy about that. he told todd blanche he was not happy about that and he gave a corrective instruction to the jury regarding that -- regarding those words from todd blanche. >> i think he handled it well, and i agree with your expert panelists it was not a mistake by todd blanche. it was very intentional. i think the curative instruction given by the judge was exactly right. the other thing that strikes me in the presentation by the defense, you know, i kind of would characterize it as the sort of this is an important man defense. as if to say that the proof has to be higher than beyond a reasonable doubt because you're dealing with a former president and maybe future president of the united states. one of the things you may hear judge merchan say tomor
yasmin vossoughian was reminding me. but even this morning it was quite warm in there. how do you feel about how judge merchan has done today? what about what todd blanche did earlier when he was finishing his summation saying you can't send a man to prison based on the testimony of michael cohen. the judge does was not happy about that. he told todd blanche he was not happy about that and he gave a corrective instruction to the jury regarding that -- regarding those words from todd blanche....
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nbc's yasmin vossoughian is joining us from outside the courthouse. how significant is it to see bragg in court? >> reporter: it's truly significant, ana, he hasn't been in much throughout this trial so far. i think i can count maybe two, this might be the second or third time in which he's actually sitting in court, but fairly significant to say the least. we're seeing kind of a buildup as you all have been talking about all morning towards the testimony of michael cohen. if you remember the evidence that michael cohen has turned over and was subsequently seized on a raid in his office, many of which was phone records, text messages, recordings in which michael cohen made of him, conversations he was having of him, allen weisselberg, the former president of the united states as well. this is kind of part of the documents piece that i have been talking about over the last couple of days, which is really key to the prosecution's case here, right? it is the documents, what has been seized from many of these phone calls as you listen to the testimony fro
nbc's yasmin vossoughian is joining us from outside the courthouse. how significant is it to see bragg in court? >> reporter: it's truly significant, ana, he hasn't been in much throughout this trial so far. i think i can count maybe two, this might be the second or third time in which he's actually sitting in court, but fairly significant to say the least. we're seeing kind of a buildup as you all have been talking about all morning towards the testimony of michael cohen. if you remember...
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. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse, also with us kristen gibb against, charles coleman and criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor jeremy salaam. thank you all for joining us. let's go to yasmin first. what is the latest inside that courtroom as michael cohen's testimony begins? >> reporter: we're getting some demeanor notes, guys, as to how michael cohen is interacting with the prosecution when answering his questions, also kind of some color from inside the courtroom when michael cohen was asked to identify the defendant, donald j. trump, which i've explained this before, they're unable to see -- when you are on the witness stand -- unable to see the defense table. so he had to stand up, peer around the defense, around kind of the two feet of wood lip that stands between him and the defense table to identify donald j. trump. we're hearing from inside the courtroom when it comes to his demeanor he's asking and answering these questions pretty -- pretty quickly, in that he's sticking with the points, he's not veering off of subjects. he is staying with
. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse, also with us kristen gibb against, charles coleman and criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor jeremy salaam. thank you all for joining us. let's go to yasmin first. what is the latest inside that courtroom as michael cohen's testimony begins? >> reporter: we're getting some demeanor notes, guys, as to how michael cohen is interacting with the prosecution when answering his questions, also kind of some color...
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>> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside that courthouse. i also want to bring in our legal panel, former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi official chuck rosenberg, new york law school professor and director of the school's criminal defense clinic. ana coe min ski and criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor duncan levins. there was a little bit of uncertainty this morning in court, a long bench meeting before the cross examination got underway. bring us up to speed on all of it. >> reporter: the last day week five of this trial, a 19-minute bench meeting at the start of court before the jury was brought in. we don't know what they talked about. once we get the partial transcript out this morning, we're going to figure that out and let you know. a couple of things that have come out so far even just in the last 30 minutes or so, the possibility that they could be in court next wednesday when it comes to scheduling. remember, we're not in court every wednesday because the judge, i believe, has family court. they say they may
>> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside that courthouse. i also want to bring in our legal panel, former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi official chuck rosenberg, new york law school professor and director of the school's criminal defense clinic. ana coe min ski and criminal defense attorney and former federal prosecutor duncan levins. there was a little bit of uncertainty this morning in court, a long bench meeting before the cross examination got underway. bring us up to speed on all...
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i want to go back out to yasmin vossoughian who has more from inside the courthouse. >> reporter: they are getting into stormy daniels, and todd blanche says i want to tell you one last story in talking about stormy daniels. in building the idea it was all about extortion, he brings up this point. if you remember, it was rodriguez, stormy daniels's agent at the time that reached out in april of 2016, reminding of the story of stormy daniels. todd blanche talks about how the story was already out there. it was 2011 in which karen mcdougal and stormy daniels tried to sell their stories for $15,000. it was already out there. why would -- i am paraphrasing here. why would trump worry about a story that had been out there for years, and why does it take five to six months for her to be paid $130,000 for karen mcdougal to be paid as well. this was not, in fact, a catch and kill scenario because it was in april of 2016 in which gina rodriguez initially reached out. if you remember the whole idea of why it was being drawn out, right, and gina rodriguez reaches out in 2016, and it's not until o
i want to go back out to yasmin vossoughian who has more from inside the courthouse. >> reporter: they are getting into stormy daniels, and todd blanche says i want to tell you one last story in talking about stormy daniels. in building the idea it was all about extortion, he brings up this point. if you remember, it was rodriguez, stormy daniels's agent at the time that reached out in april of 2016, reminding of the story of stormy daniels. todd blanche talks about how the story was...
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we could find out any moment, joining us now, nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian who's outside of that new york city courthouse for us. also with us is former assistant district attorney in manhattan and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney of the manhattan d.a.'s office, daniel horowitz, and former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. when i was in the overflow room, i could donald trump, the prosecution, the defense, the judge, the woman playing the michael cohen and david pecker roles, reading back the testimony. i could not see the jury. what insight do we have about the jury and what they were doing this morning as they were getting back the jury instructions but also getting back that key testimony? >> the ever important jury, right, that's what everyone is focused on right now when it comes to what's happening inside that courtroom or as we should say at this point, what's happening inside that deliberation room, if any of us could be a fly on the wall, what we would hear. as these jury instructio
we could find out any moment, joining us now, nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian who's outside of that new york city courthouse for us. also with us is former assistant district attorney in manhattan and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian, former assistant district attorney of the manhattan d.a.'s office, daniel horowitz, and former federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, duncan levin. when i was in the overflow room, i could donald trump, the prosecution, the...
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. >> joining us now, nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian outside the court, back with us. chuck rosenberg, catherine christian, and danny cevallos. yasmin, what is happening right now? >> reporter: they're talking about the calls beginning in june of 2016. this is when cohen alleges he informed the former president of the united states, his boss at the time there was a meeting between mcdougal. this was the beginning of the payoff by ami. it was october in which the payoff was made to stormy daniels, initial contact between gina rodriguez and ami was october 8th, 2016. that was about six months after this initial conversation in june when cohen informed donald trump as he alleges about the conversations between dylan howard and karen mcdougal, and their settlement of $150,000. let me read you through quickly this moment if i can. you have a recollection of a call on june 16th of 2016, with president trump, cohen says yes, sir. you called schiller and gave the phone to president trump. you don't have a specific recollection in 2016. no, sir. 1,400 a month, conservativel
. >> joining us now, nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian outside the court, back with us. chuck rosenberg, catherine christian, and danny cevallos. yasmin, what is happening right now? >> reporter: they're talking about the calls beginning in june of 2016. this is when cohen alleges he informed the former president of the united states, his boss at the time there was a meeting between mcdougal. this was the beginning of the payoff by ami. it was october in which the...
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i want to bring in nbc's yasmin vossoughian who's reporting from outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, also with us, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, chuck rosenberg. in studio, jessica roth, a former federal prosecutor for the southern doctor district of new york, and jill, she has known judge merchan for 15 years. chuck, i think today was a good reminder for all of us not just that everything you put down in a text or an e-mail lives forever, but that for all the salacious details in this trial, it is going to come down to what we're calling dry details, those signed checks, how mail got delivered to donald trump, the phone records. how does this set the stage for michael cohen? >> that's right, chris. look, mr. trump is not charged with having sex with stormy daniels. it's largely irrelevant. it provides some of the context, but that's not the crime. the crime is the falsification of books and records. so what a prosecutor would have to show is that the books and records were false, that they were intentionally false, and in this case, that mr. trump directed that. you
i want to bring in nbc's yasmin vossoughian who's reporting from outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, also with us, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, chuck rosenberg. in studio, jessica roth, a former federal prosecutor for the southern doctor district of new york, and jill, she has known judge merchan for 15 years. chuck, i think today was a good reminder for all of us not just that everything you put down in a text or an e-mail lives forever, but that for all the salacious...
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yasmin vossoughian is reporting from outside the courthouse. also chuck rosenberg, former fbi official and msnbc analyst. duncan loven, managing partner of loven and associates. danny cevallos is still with me in studio. he is a criminal defense attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. duncan, i'm going to start with you as the prosecutor in the house, and new to our panel, what has to happen this afternoon? how do they move this case forward now? >> i think the prosecutors need to continue to hammer home the two main points, which is why this testimony is so riveting and important. i thought the cross-examination was largely ineffective. they're trying to portray this lawyer a sleazebag, who peddles in his clients' sexual lee say liaisons for money. michael cohen wasn't acting on his own. he was a conduit to donald trump. what they want to show is a conspiracy to violate campaign finance laws, and they need to show the defendant himself was responsible for it. number one, hammer home that michael cohen wasn't acting on his own and this isn't about
yasmin vossoughian is reporting from outside the courthouse. also chuck rosenberg, former fbi official and msnbc analyst. duncan loven, managing partner of loven and associates. danny cevallos is still with me in studio. he is a criminal defense attorney and an msnbc legal analyst. duncan, i'm going to start with you as the prosecutor in the house, and new to our panel, what has to happen this afternoon? how do they move this case forward now? >> i think the prosecutors need to continue...
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msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and charles coleman, former prosecutor in brooklyn, new york, who is an msnbc legal analyst. so, blayne, what can you tell us about the move by the georgia court of appeals this morning? >> well, jose, i think the bottom line of this is that this kind of long almost side show that has been taking over the fulton county trial for the better part of the first half of the year is not over. it is now just...
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yasmin vossoughian who was in the courtroom yesterday and back with us, former assistant d.a. for the manhattan district attorney's office and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. thank you for listening to the control booth, and not me. i actually needed to talk to you some more. here we go, yasmin, with you having been inside the court yesterday, there was a pretty shocking moment where donald trump was admonished for curses audibly while stormy daniels testified about their alleged sexual encounter. what happened? >> it was hard to know what was happening. i can't necessarily see the front of donald trump's face. i was just about six rows back looking directly at the back of his head, alex, and many times throughout stormy daniels' testimony, you heard or saw donald trump whispering to todd blanche to his left, and oftentimes when there was a bench meeting or a pull aside, bove would get into blanche's seat and talk trump through what was happening, while discussing things with judge juan merchan. as we look back at the transcript, we can understand what was happening
yasmin vossoughian who was in the courtroom yesterday and back with us, former assistant d.a. for the manhattan district attorney's office and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. thank you for listening to the control booth, and not me. i actually needed to talk to you some more. here we go, yasmin, with you having been inside the court yesterday, there was a pretty shocking moment where donald trump was admonished for curses audibly while stormy daniels testified about their alleged...
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outside the courthouse for us once again nbc news correspondent yasmin vossoughian is back with us. with us at the table former federal prosecutor former sdny criminal division deputy chief msnbc legal analyst christie greenberg's back. senior executive editor for bloomberg opinion and msnbc political analyst tim o'brien's back with us. and making his "deadline" debut former manhattan prosecutor, a familiar face to msnbc viewers jeremy saline is here. jeremy, i'll start with you. your thoughts on what's transpired. i'm not listening to. i'm reading transcripts. but it's the most dramatic merchan has been on the page. >> and this is replanned, any witness i would have and i would call, and i've called many in that courthouse, i'm telling them to win it with respect, win it with the right answers, look the jury in the eye, look the judge in the eye, look everyone in the eye and be cool, calm collected because if you have no credibility and you're bombastic and you seem like you're fighting back too much then you've dehumanized yourself, you've changed any kind of empathy or credibilit
outside the courthouse for us once again nbc news correspondent yasmin vossoughian is back with us. with us at the table former federal prosecutor former sdny criminal division deputy chief msnbc legal analyst christie greenberg's back. senior executive editor for bloomberg opinion and msnbc political analyst tim o'brien's back with us. and making his "deadline" debut former manhattan prosecutor, a familiar face to msnbc viewers jeremy saline is here. jeremy, i'll start with you. your...
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vossoughian outside the courthouse. remind us what's on this tape, yasmin. >> reporter: yeah, so many of us have heard this tape at one point or another over the last year or so. let me read you what i have here when it comes to the back and forth between cohen and trump on this audio recording so you can understand what the jury is hearing right now inside that courtroom. so michael cohen says i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set up the whole thing, and trump says so what do we got to pay for? 150? and cohen says correct. so i'm all over that. and i spoke to allen about it, when it comes time for the financing, which will be -- trump cuts him off. wait a second, what financing? cohen says, well, i'll have to pay him something. trump says something that's unintelligible, trump says pay with cash. cohen says, no, no, no, i got it. that is part of the audio recording which the jury is hearing right now when it comes to this exchange between donald trump and michael cohen, integral obviously to this case, this
vossoughian outside the courthouse. remind us what's on this tape, yasmin. >> reporter: yeah, so many of us have heard this tape at one point or another over the last year or so. let me read you what i have here when it comes to the back and forth between cohen and trump on this audio recording so you can understand what the jury is hearing right now inside that courtroom. so michael cohen says i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set up the whole thing, and trump says so what do...
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. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, chuck rosenberg, former senior fbi official, daniel leven, former prosecutor, jeremy solante, and jessica roth, former federal prosecutor and professor at cordosa law school. the defense closing is already under way. todd blanche saying to the jury, you should want or expect more than the testimony of michael cohen. what else are we hearing from him? >> reporter: big, big, big day today, guys, to say the least. two and a half hours we're expected to hear from todd blanche when it comes to his closing arguments. his summations. and then followed up by the prosecution, joshua steinglass, who will be leading summations for the prosecution for four to four and a half hours this thing could extend into tomorrow if the jury decides they don't want to stay late. but if they decide they can, in fact, stay late, we could be finishing up closing arguments, summations today and then heading into jury instructions tomorrow and then subsequently deliberations. quickly, ana, before i
. >> nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, chuck rosenberg, former senior fbi official, daniel leven, former prosecutor, jeremy solante, and jessica roth, former federal prosecutor and professor at cordosa law school. the defense closing is already under way. todd blanche saying to the jury, you should want or expect more than the testimony of michael cohen. what else are we hearing from him? >> reporter: big, big, big day today, guys, to say the least....
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our yasmin vossoughian continues to report outside the courthouse. take us through the key moments and where we are right now. >> reporter: i believe they're building towards the crescendo, the end of the initial cross-examination, and we'll move to redirect, and what seems to be the questions coming out of todd blanche, he has built this picture of michael cohen, made $4 million in the year of 2017, retainer agreements with various companies, six, seven communications, making exorbitant amounts of money. there was a line of questioning that i thought was interesting, they talked about the revelation, the "wall street journal" article about the payment made to stormy daniels, michael cohen repeatedly denied to many individuals that he spoke to at the time that donald trump had no knowledge of this payment, and he asked michael cohen repeatedly, you told, for instance, melania trump that donald trump knew nothing of these payments. michael cohen said yes. you told other individuals throughout the period that donald trump knew nothing of these payments
our yasmin vossoughian continues to report outside the courthouse. take us through the key moments and where we are right now. >> reporter: i believe they're building towards the crescendo, the end of the initial cross-examination, and we'll move to redirect, and what seems to be the questions coming out of todd blanche, he has built this picture of michael cohen, made $4 million in the year of 2017, retainer agreements with various companies, six, seven communications, making exorbitant...
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with us to talk about all of this, msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, outside the courthouse in manhattan, danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, phyllis cote, senior judge and clinical professor of law and director of the externship and pro bono program. what has been happening inside the courtroom? this break is probably for a short period of time. >> reporter: a bit of a break this morning. on the stand right now as you mentioned georgia longstreet, a paralegal at the manhattan d.a.'s office. i think it is significant to talk about this, jose, because i think we need to understand kind of how document heavy this entire case and the prosecution is, right? we know the defense is continuously chipping away at some potential witnesses here, the potential of michael cohen to take the stand, the potential of stormy daniels to take the stand. we can't count how many times michael cohen has been talked about so far and hasn't taken the stand. their objective is to chip away at michael cohen's credibility, to chip away at stormy daniels' credibility as w
with us to talk about all of this, msnbc national correspondent yasmin vossoughian, outside the courthouse in manhattan, danny cevallos, criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, phyllis cote, senior judge and clinical professor of law and director of the externship and pro bono program. what has been happening inside the courtroom? this break is probably for a short period of time. >> reporter: a bit of a break this morning. on the stand right now as you mentioned georgia...
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i want to bring in nbc's yasmin vossoughian who was outside the courthouse. stuart stevens is a senior adviser at the lincoln project and helped lead mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. he's also author of "it was all a lie: how the republican party became donald trump." eli stokols is while house's correspondent for "politico" and with me here in studio, katie phang, attorney and host of the "the katie phang show" here on msnbc. few people had as much access as hope hicks did. everybody that works there in some sense reports to mr. trump, that mr. trump was the one responsible. and then when it came to politics to the white house, she said, we were all just following his lead. what has she brought to the prosecution case so far? >> she is the proverbial fly on the wall, is she not, chris? she heard it all. she saw it all. and most importantly from what you just said to the viewers, she directly brings donald trump's involvement and knowledge into it because if you're donald trump, maybe one of your defense theories is michael cohen did it on his own. h
i want to bring in nbc's yasmin vossoughian who was outside the courthouse. stuart stevens is a senior adviser at the lincoln project and helped lead mitt romney's 2012 presidential campaign. he's also author of "it was all a lie: how the republican party became donald trump." eli stokols is while house's correspondent for "politico" and with me here in studio, katie phang, attorney and host of the "the katie phang show" here on msnbc. few people had as much access...
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i want to bring in yasmin vossoughian, former missouri democratic senator, claire mccaskill, an msnbc political analyst and co-host of msnbc's how to win 2024 podcast. matt dowd helped lead the bush cheney 2004 campaign, david french is an opinion columnist for "the new york times," and with us on set, host of the bulwark podcast, tim miller. also an msnbc political analyst and former communications director for jeb bush's 2016 campaign. what a power panel we've got. thank you all for being here. claire, let me start with you. is it at all surprising in any way that your former colleagues, republican colleagues in congress aren't just complaining about this verdict, they are complaining about the justice system itself. they're making what sounds like threats to people who support the justice system and what are the consequences of that? >> well, first, i think you can look at the various responses and discern a little bit about the politics of the folks behind the words. i will be honest, i was surprised about mcconnell and susan collins. i don't know on what basis mcconnell thinks th
i want to bring in yasmin vossoughian, former missouri democratic senator, claire mccaskill, an msnbc political analyst and co-host of msnbc's how to win 2024 podcast. matt dowd helped lead the bush cheney 2004 campaign, david french is an opinion columnist for "the new york times," and with us on set, host of the bulwark podcast, tim miller. also an msnbc political analyst and former communications director for jeb bush's 2016 campaign. what a power panel we've got. thank you all for...
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but yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse, what is going on in the courthouse right now, fair to say, has never been more important. >> reporter: never more important. they're going through the counts, and then they're associating each count obviously with the invoices and with the checks as well. and let me remind folks, by the way, i'm doing this all day, so i may sound like i'm repeating myself, but i do think it is important when it comes to the counts, you have 12 counts when it comes to ledgers, 11 counts, invoices, 11 counts, checks as well. and let me quickly read you this part in which they talk about the count. in order to find defendant guilt on count one, on or about february 14th, 2017, in the count of new york and elsewhere, the defendant personally or by acting in concert with another person or person made or caused the false records of the business records of an enterprise, specifically invoice to michael cohen. number two, the defendant did so with intent to defraud, intent to commit another crime, or aid in commission thereof. and he goes on to say that there ar
but yasmin vossoughian outside the courthouse, what is going on in the courthouse right now, fair to say, has never been more important. >> reporter: never more important. they're going through the counts, and then they're associating each count obviously with the invoices and with the checks as well. and let me remind folks, by the way, i'm doing this all day, so i may sound like i'm repeating myself, but i do think it is important when it comes to the counts, you have 12 counts when it...
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nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, msnbc legal correspondent and host katie phang along with catherine christian, former assistant manhattan district attorney. kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and sdny criminal division deputy chief. and harry litman, former deputy assistant attorney general. yasmin, i want to go right to the courthouse. let's start with what we heard from the jurors in this new note today. >> reporter: so we needed clarification on what they wanted out of jury instructions, right? we didn't know if they wanted the entirety of the jury instructions read back to them after yesterday's note or they wanted a portion. it turns out they wanted a portion. they essentially wanted what the jury considers as evidence in the lead up to count one. that's really the entirety of all of the instructions, if you remember the judge in his initial instructions did not go through every count, and that was in order to save time because all of the instructions together took an hour and 15 minutes.
nbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse. also with us, msnbc legal correspondent and host katie phang along with catherine christian, former assistant manhattan district attorney. kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and sdny criminal division deputy chief. and harry litman, former deputy assistant attorney general. yasmin, i want to go right to the courthouse. let's start with what we heard from the jurors in this new note today. >> reporter: so we needed clarification...
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yasmin vossoughian, plus msnbc legal weissmann is here with us. today is the first day to sort of exhale and process what was happening. i have to say every day what we had sort of prepared to read and present to our viewers based on what had happened before 4:00 in the east was not what we ended up covering, because something twisted, something turned in a way that no one expected it to. >> so interesting, i was going to say, i have never done a trial where something unexpected doesn't happen. you can prepare all you want, and something, some piece of evidence, something takes on a life of its own. the other thing, and i used to prepare witnesses this way when i have had witses like michael cohen. i would say, somebody is going to be presented, and this is what you need to know no matter it is, just think about what you are remember and just say it. it doesn't matter if it's really bad. it doesn't matter if you're saying i stole money from the defendant. whatever it is, just your lone start at that moment is the truth. i think frankly the only po
yasmin vossoughian, plus msnbc legal weissmann is here with us. today is the first day to sort of exhale and process what was happening. i have to say every day what we had sort of prepared to read and present to our viewers based on what had happened before 4:00 in the east was not what we ended up covering, because something twisted, something turned in a way that no one expected it to. >> so interesting, i was going to say, i have never done a trial where something unexpected doesn't...
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joining us is yasmin vossoughian live in lower manhattan. that's a tough warning moments ago from the judge. what did he say? and what else is happening in court today? >> reporter: yeah. it was a big moment, i think, mika. we were awaiting a decision on the possible contempt charges for the former president, violations of the gag order, four of them separately that were issued last week. we were awaiting a decision from judge merchan. he kind of took us through some major moments this morning as court got up and going and kind of talking about the gravity of a situation of putting a former president of the united states and even possible future president of the united states in jail for contempt of court and the fact that it would also involve secret service if he were to be put in jail if he were to violate this gag order. he understands and sees that the $1,000 fines are not really making a difference and knows that he has to job to do in spite of how difficult the decision may be, he said. although he is not putting him in jail for now,
joining us is yasmin vossoughian live in lower manhattan. that's a tough warning moments ago from the judge. what did he say? and what else is happening in court today? >> reporter: yeah. it was a big moment, i think, mika. we were awaiting a decision on the possible contempt charges for the former president, violations of the gag order, four of them separately that were issued last week. we were awaiting a decision from judge merchan. he kind of took us through some major moments this...
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along with charles cole man and yasmin vossoughian. >> reporter: it has been quite a day to say the least. i want to talk quickly about the individual on the stand now. someone of an expert witness. it's an important context if you think about the expert witness talking about how it is they went to come upon some of these secret phone calls in which michael cohen record. i think it's important because it establishes how they were able to obtain the secret phone calls. they are putting this testimony, the last 60 minutes, 30 minutes until the end of kourlt, so making sure this witness testifies towards the end of the day for the jury to understand how it is they came upon this information. these receipts, per se, this evidence per se that has been admitted by the prosecution. let's talk quickly through some of what we heard between both michael cohen and keith davidson. i think there's a lot of back and forth and kind of contentious behavior and interactions between michael cohen and keith davidson. i want to read some, if i can, talking about why it was howard acted as an intermediate bet
along with charles cole man and yasmin vossoughian. >> reporter: it has been quite a day to say the least. i want to talk quickly about the individual on the stand now. someone of an expert witness. it's an important context if you think about the expert witness talking about how it is they went to come upon some of these secret phone calls in which michael cohen record. i think it's important because it establishes how they were able to obtain the secret phone calls. they are putting...
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outside the courthouse for us, nbc news correspondents yasmin vossoughian. also acting assistant attorney general for national security at the department of justice and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is here. with us at the table, msnbc legal analyst and a former criminal division deputy chief at the southern district of new york, kristi greenberg is back. and former top official at the department of justice msnbc legal analyst andrew weissman is back with us. that was a live portion of trump talking, we're never sure if he's going to threaten, so we monitor it so you don't have to. anything newsworthy ewe'll tell you about it. yasmin, we'll start with you. >> reporter: the judge denying this motion for a mistrial, nicolle. he mentioned in his lead up to delivering that decision about how he went back to his chambers tuesday afternoon, after hearing some of stormy daniels' testimony, and reviewed the testimony because that was when we initially heard about this motion for a mistrial after returning from our lunch break. he talked about how he felt as if som
outside the courthouse for us, nbc news correspondents yasmin vossoughian. also acting assistant attorney general for national security at the department of justice and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is here. with us at the table, msnbc legal analyst and a former criminal division deputy chief at the southern district of new york, kristi greenberg is back. and former top official at the department of justice msnbc legal analyst andrew weissman is back with us. that was a live portion of trump...
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vossoughian. and we have a full table. former prosecutor, former sdny criminal deputy chief msnbc legal analyst kristi greenberg is back. andrew weissmann is with us and host of the podcast donny deutsch. today high invoked mother theresa saying mother theresa couldn't even beat this. he's so delusional. >> there can be nothing more devastating for him than lack of control or lack of pow, and now it's kind of game time and he had all the bluster in court and sitting there with his eyes closed or what not, and now it's game time and it could go really bad for him. and i think you're seeing him unravel. rars guilty or not he needs to be out there so he can unfold in front of us. >> unfold is an interesting word. take me inside your understanding of what's happening right now and why it matters so much to both sides. the jury has asked for four pieces of the witness testimony and we've been going through and continue to do so. what's happening between the two legal teams? >> well, they are going thro
vossoughian. and we have a full table. former prosecutor, former sdny criminal deputy chief msnbc legal analyst kristi greenberg is back. andrew weissmann is with us and host of the podcast donny deutsch. today high invoked mother theresa saying mother theresa couldn't even beat this. he's so delusional. >> there can be nothing more devastating for him than lack of control or lack of pow, and now it's kind of game time and he had all the bluster in court and sitting there with his eyes...