of pilate, yes, but in this gospel there is also the main pilate, that is, there, in fact, jesus , yeshuaely conditionally, he has literally a couple of lines and... basically it’s pilate and his inner external life, that is, pilate, as you say, the image of a ruler, yes, yes, the image of, well , frankly, let’s say, comrade stalin, who i’m still powerless in the face of some external stories, i’m listening to you, for me , i felt it all differently, that is , i have a complete feeling, well, such a simple esoteric picture of everything, yeshua and pilate, and why this is all so, and what this novel calls for, uh, and i don’t see it stalin, i see the depth in this, but if we are talking about jesus, this is an attempt, well, like volenda’s gang, yes, how they give people the choice of the opportunity to somehow behave, whether to be a bastard or not, because this there is always a choice, people are given a choice, no one will ever do anything for us, depending on the choice, we get some kind of result, well , like cat or paradise, yes, you can be a bad person, you can be a good person, t