or zamkov, i don’t know how to put the emphasis correctly, and these two people who, it would seem, their homeland, they remain here in the soviet union, and she becomes such a cult figure in soviet architecture, sculpture, culture, he becomes one of the largest scientists, uh, doctors, yes, despite the fact that everything is complicated for them there, as there were moments of threat of arrest, yes, there was some idea to leave the country after all in the late twenties, but still they remain here, and even paris is from her didn’t leave, because , as we know, yes, she came to paris together with this article, that is , some absolutely amazing fate, that’s what’s interesting, yes, why exactly we have two guests today. studios, that on the one hand, the workers are collective farmers, yes, firstly, the workers are collective farmers, you said very well, yes, you will be a worker, you will be a collective farmer. well, that means vera ignatievna is known, yes, as a monumental sculptor, if you call it correctly, yes, and as a clothing designer, that is, this woman had such talent, su