1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,381 TUNING IN FOR LOCAL NEWS AT LEAST IN THE EASTERN 2 00:00:00,381 --> 00:00:03,030 PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU'RE WATCHING ABC NEWS LIVE COVERAGE 3 00:00:03,030 --> 00:00:04,019 OF A SIGNIFICANT 4 00:00:04,019 --> 00:00:06,130 DAY HERE IN AMERICAN HISTORY 5 00:00:06,130 --> 00:00:10,080 FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON ALL 34 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,450 FELONY COUNTS 7 00:00:11,450 --> 00:00:13,130 IN THE HUSH MONEY 8 00:00:13,130 --> 00:00:15,460 CRIMINAL TRIAL HERE IN NEW YORK CITY THAT OF COURSE 9 00:00:15,460 --> 00:00:18,440 INVOLVED THAT PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS 10 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,030 IN THE WEEKS BEFORE THE 2016 11 00:00:21,030 --> 00:00:23,180 ELECTION AND IT WASN'T SIMPLY 12 00:00:23,180 --> 00:00:23,860 THAT 13 00:00:23,860 --> 00:00:25,800 THE DOCUMENTS HAD BEEN FALSIFIED 14 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,170 THE ARGUMENT THE PROSECUTION 15 00:00:27,170 --> 00:00:29,100 SET OUT TO MAKE WAS THAT THEY WERE FALSIFIED 16 00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:30,520 IN ADDITION 17 00:00:30,660 --> 00:00:31,500 TO TRYING 18 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,380 TO KEEP THIS INFORMATION 19 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:34,660 FROM THE VOTERS 20 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,960 WHO HAD A RIGHT THEY SAID THAT WAS THEIR ARGUMENT 21 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,830 HAD A RIGHT TO THE INFORMATION TO MAKE UP THEIR 22 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:40,140 OWN MIND 23 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:41,510 BEFORE THE 2016 24 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:42,460 ELECTION 25 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:44,640 IT HAD BEEN SAID WHEN IT COMES TO THE TESTIMONY 26 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,020 OF MICHAEL COHEN YOU HEARD JON KARL TALKING ABOUT MICHAEL 27 00:00:47,020 --> 00:00:48,350 COHEN THERE 28 00:00:48,350 --> 00:00:50,710 THE DEFENSE HAD CALLED HIM THE GREATEST LIAR OF ALL 29 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:51,870 TIME 30 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:54,080 IN THAT COURTROOM DURING CLOSING THE PROSECUTION 31 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,510 SAYING WE DIDN'T PICK MICHAEL COHEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE PICKED 32 00:00:56,510 --> 00:00:58,070 HIM AS OUR KEY WITNESS 33 00:00:58,070 --> 00:00:59,920 BUT THAT IT WAS FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO PICKED HIM 34 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,170 FOR THOSE VERY REASONS THOSE VERY 35 00:01:02,170 --> 00:01:03,299 SKILLS 36 00:01:03,299 --> 00:01:05,390 BEING ABLE TO LIE BEING ABLE TO FIX BEING ABLE 37 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:07,189 TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN 38 00:01:07,189 --> 00:01:10,189 THAT'S WHY MICHAEL COHEN IS PLAYING SUCH A LARGE ROLE 39 00:01:10,189 --> 00:01:11,530 IN THIS CASE 40 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:14,340 THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT MADE BY THE PROSECUTION 41 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:16,040 IT HAD BEEN SAID THAT 42 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,330 EVEN IF MICHAEL COHEN IS A LIAR THAT HE WOULD 43 00:01:18,330 --> 00:01:19,939 HAVE A HARD TIME FOOLING 44 00:01:19,939 --> 00:01:21,019 12 45 00:01:21,019 --> 00:01:22,470 NEW YORKERS 46 00:01:22,470 --> 00:01:24,170 IN THAT JURY BOX 47 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:25,290 JUDGE JUAN 48 00:01:25,290 --> 00:01:25,950 MERCHAN INSTRUCTING 49 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:27,689 THEM EVEN IN THE END 50 00:01:27,689 --> 00:01:30,909 THROUGH JURY INSTRUCTIONS AGREED UPON BY BOTH THE PROSECUTION AND 51 00:01:30,909 --> 00:01:31,980 THE DEFENSE 52 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:35,730 THAT THE JURORS COULD NOT FIND THE FORMER PRESIDENT GUILTY 53 00:01:35,730 --> 00:01:38,620 BASED SOLELY ON THE TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL COHEN 54 00:01:38,620 --> 00:01:40,459 THAT THEY MUST HAVE CORROBORATING 55 00:01:40,459 --> 00:01:42,970 EVIDENCE TO THE MAGNITUDE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM 56 00:01:42,970 --> 00:01:44,200 TO FIND THE PRESIDENT 57 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,290 THE FORMER PRESIDENT GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS IN A 58 00:01:47,290 --> 00:01:48,849 NEW YORK CITY COURTROOM 59 00:01:48,849 --> 00:01:49,720 HERE 60 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,890 LATE TODAY JOSH EINIGER OF OUR STATION WABC 61 00:01:52,890 --> 00:01:55,069 TV HERE IN NEW YORK CHANNEL SEVEN 62 00:01:55,069 --> 00:01:57,550 OF COURSE THAT TEAM DOING EXTRAORDINARY WORK TRYING TO COVER 63 00:01:57,550 --> 00:01:59,129 THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AS WELL JOSH YOU 64 00:01:59,129 --> 00:02:01,230 WERE IN THE COURTROOM DESCRIBE 65 00:02:01,230 --> 00:02:04,280 THE MOMENT THE JURORS WALKED IN AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S 66 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,420 REACTION TO THAT VERDICT 67 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,650 YEAH SO DAVID IT WAS IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE 68 00:02:11,650 --> 00:02:12,300 THE 69 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,199 WILD SHIFTS IN THE ATMOSPHERE 70 00:02:14,199 --> 00:02:15,240 IN THAT COURTROOM 71 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,159 OVER THE COURSE OF REALLY JUST A FEW MINUTES I'LL 72 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:20,060 ACTUALLY START A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THAT WHICH IS WHEN 73 00:02:20,060 --> 00:02:22,470 THE JUDGE CALLED ALL THE PARTIES BACK TO THE COURTROOM 74 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:23,389 AT AROUND 75 00:02:23,389 --> 00:02:26,800 415 WHEN THE JURY WAS TO DELIBERATE UNTIL 430 76 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 AND THE JUDGE TOLD BOTH SIDES HE WAS GOING TO 77 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,479 LET THE JURY GO AT 430 AND THEN HE LEFT 78 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:33,449 THE BENCH AND OVER THE NEXT FEW MINUTES 79 00:02:33,449 --> 00:02:35,020 DONALD TRUMP WAS 80 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:36,099 POSITIVELY 81 00:02:36,099 --> 00:02:39,199 GIDDY WITH LAUGHTER WITH HIS LEAD ATTORNEY TODD BLANCH THEY 82 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:40,330 WERE LAUGHING 83 00:02:40,330 --> 00:02:43,449 PRETTY HEAVILY AT THE DEFENSE TABLE 84 00:02:43,449 --> 00:02:44,509 AND REALLY 85 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:46,910 ALL SMILES THEY SEEMED VERY RELAXED 86 00:02:46,910 --> 00:02:48,620 AND IT WAS REALLY ONLY A FEW MINUTES AFTER THAT 87 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:50,979 THAT THE JURY SENT THIS NOTE SAYING 88 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:52,220 THEY HAD A VERDICT 89 00:02:52,220 --> 00:02:54,129 SO WHEN THEY DID ENTER 90 00:02:54,129 --> 00:02:56,490 I THINK YOU HEARD OLIVIA RUBIN SAY EARLIER THEY WALKED 91 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:58,250 IN IN A VERY WELL PRACTICED 92 00:02:58,250 --> 00:03:00,180 EYES DOWN EYES FORWARD 93 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,680 NOT LOOKING AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHO WAS REALLY JUST 94 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,840 MAYBE A FOOT OR TWO TO THEIR RIGHT AS THEY 95 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,870 HAVE TO FILE PAST HIM 96 00:03:07,870 --> 00:03:09,639 AND THEY GOT INTO THE WITNESS BOX AND WHAT I'LL 97 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,409 TELL YOU IS THAT FROM WHERE WE WERE SITTING DAVID 98 00:03:12,409 --> 00:03:14,400 WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE HIS FACE WE CAN ONLY 99 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,840 SEE THE BACK OF HIS HEAD SO IT'S HARD TO 100 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,740 KNOW WHAT EXPRESSION 101 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:18,340 WAS ON HIS FACE BUT 102 00:03:18,340 --> 00:03:21,710 AS THEY STARTED TO READ THROUGH THE COUNTS COUNT ONE 103 00:03:21,710 --> 00:03:23,300 GUILTY COUNT TWO 104 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:24,600 GUILTY 105 00:03:24,780 --> 00:03:26,240 THERE WAS NO MOTION 106 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,389 AT ALL IN HIS BODY UNTIL THEY GOT TO COUNT 107 00:03:28,389 --> 00:03:29,069 FOUR 108 00:03:29,069 --> 00:03:31,900 AT WHICH POINT HE SLOWLY STARTED TO SHAKE HIS HEAD 109 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:33,879 AND THAT LASTED FOR A FEW MORE COUNTS 110 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:36,039 AND THEN AT AROUND COUNT 6 OR 7 111 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:37,599 HE WAS JUST STILL 112 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:38,770 AGAIN 113 00:03:38,770 --> 00:03:40,300 ALL THE WAY THROUGH 114 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:41,620 TO COUNT 34 115 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:44,190 WHEN HE WAS FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS DAVID 116 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:46,289 ANY REACTION WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE FROM ERIC TRUMP 117 00:03:46,289 --> 00:03:48,000 HIS SON WAS HIS SON STILL IN THE COURTROOM AT 118 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,450 THAT POINT 119 00:03:50,819 --> 00:03:54,080 HIS SON ERIC WAS IN THE COURTROOM SITTING NEXT TO 120 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,850 ONE OF HIS ATTORNEYS 121 00:03:56,379 --> 00:03:59,479 AND NO OBVIOUS REACTION FROM HIM EITHER HE WAS LOOKING 122 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:00,759 STRAIGHT AHEAD 123 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:03,080 SORT OF RAMROD STRAIGHT 124 00:04:03,419 --> 00:04:04,889 AND DID NOT BETRAY 125 00:04:04,889 --> 00:04:06,650 ANY EMOTION AND THEN I WILL TELL YOU DAVID THAT 126 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:08,830 WHEN THE JURY DID FILE OUT 127 00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:10,090 IT WAS THAT SAME 128 00:04:10,090 --> 00:04:10,710 AWKWARD 129 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:13,219 STAGING IN THE ROOM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 130 00:04:13,219 --> 00:04:15,919 SO MANY TIMES THEY WALKED OUT NOW WITH HIM ON 131 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:16,769 THEIR LEFT 132 00:04:16,769 --> 00:04:18,079 SOME OF THE JURORS 133 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:18,970 ACTUALLY 134 00:04:18,970 --> 00:04:20,750 TURNED THEIR FACE TO THE RIGHT 135 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:22,750 IN THE DIRECTION OF THE JUDGE AND AWAY FROM THE 136 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:24,319 DIRECTION OF TRUMP SO THAT 137 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:26,259 THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM 138 00:04:26,259 --> 00:04:27,879 AS THEY FILED OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEN WHEN 139 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:29,240 HE LEFT THE ROOM 140 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,360 A FEW MINUTES AFTER THAT 141 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,180 THERE WAS JUST A LOOK OF 142 00:04:33,180 --> 00:04:34,060 DISGUST 143 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:34,879 I I 144 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:36,810 HAVE NO OTHER REAL WORD FOR IT ON HIS FACE 145 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:38,930 AS HE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEN 146 00:04:38,930 --> 00:04:41,410 AND THEN YOU SAW HIM BEFORE THE CAMERAS AFTER THAT 147 00:04:41,410 --> 00:04:43,569 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SUV CARRYING 148 00:04:43,569 --> 00:04:45,720 THE FORMER PRESIDENT BACK UP TO TRUMP TOWER HERE IN 149 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,779 MANHATTAN AND 150 00:04:46,779 --> 00:04:47,699 JOSH 151 00:04:47,699 --> 00:04:50,050 THE MOMENTS AFTER THE VERDICT 152 00:04:50,050 --> 00:04:51,250 WAS DELIVERED 153 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:54,240 WE UNDERSTAND THAT EACH JUROR WAS THEN POLLED RIGHT THERE 154 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,629 WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT SITTING AT THE DEFENSE TABLE 155 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:59,519 EACH JUROR POLLED BY THE JUDGE 156 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:03,569 AND HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT AND 157 00:05:03,569 --> 00:05:05,509 I KNOW YOU WERE SITTING BEHIND THE PRESIDENT VERY HARD 158 00:05:05,509 --> 00:05:07,560 TO TELL HIS FACIAL EXPRESSION 159 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,550 BUT DESCRIBE FOR ME IF YOU WILL THAT MOMENT AND 160 00:05:09,550 --> 00:05:11,149 THEN WHAT THE JUDGE 161 00:05:11,149 --> 00:05:16,110 THEN SAID TO THOSE JURORS AFTER THEIR JOB WAS DONE 162 00:05:16,110 --> 00:05:16,779 SO 163 00:05:16,779 --> 00:05:19,670 WHEN THEY POLLED THE JUDGE POLLED THE JURORS 164 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:21,779 HE DIDN'T PULL THEM ON EACH COUNT 165 00:05:21,779 --> 00:05:24,420 OF COURSE THERE ARE 34 COUNTS THERE ARE 12 JURORS 166 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:27,600 HE HE BASICALLY WENT THROUGH JUROR ONE 167 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,829 IS THIS YOUR IS THIS YOUR VERDICT 168 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,740 JUROR ONE SAID YES JUROR TWO JUROR THREE AND DURING 169 00:05:32,740 --> 00:05:34,199 THAT TIME 170 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,399 TRUMP DID TURN IN HIS CHAIR AND HE WAS LOOKING 171 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:39,240 OFF IN THE DIRECTION OF THE JURORS 172 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,160 NO 173 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:40,800 OBVIOUS 174 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,389 EXPRESSION ON HIS FACE IT SEEMED FAIRLY IMPASSIVE 175 00:05:44,389 --> 00:05:46,750 AND THEN YOU KNOW AT THE END THE JUDGE DID 176 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:49,250 THESE JURORS FOR THEIR SERVICE HE TOLD THEM I DON'T 177 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:50,600 HAVE A DIRECT QUOTE IN FRONT OF ME BUT HE 178 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:51,930 TOLD THEM HOW DIFFICULT 179 00:05:51,930 --> 00:05:54,769 THIS TRIAL HAS BEEN HOW STRESSFUL THIS TRIAL HAS BEEN 180 00:05:54,769 --> 00:05:55,690 FOR THEM 181 00:05:55,690 --> 00:05:57,870 HE THANKED THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND HE EXCUSED THEM 182 00:05:57,870 --> 00:05:59,440 FROM THE ROOM AND THEN HE ASKED THEM IF IT 183 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,480 WOULD BE OKAY 184 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,769 IF AFTER HE EXCUSED HIM FROM THE ROOM HE WOULD 185 00:06:02,769 --> 00:06:05,339 THEN GO TO THEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION 186 00:06:05,339 --> 00:06:06,509 WITH THEM 187 00:06:06,509 --> 00:06:08,269 AND THANK THEM PERSONALLY 188 00:06:08,269 --> 00:06:11,509 YOU KNOW YOU KNOW ONE ON ONE 189 00:06:11,509 --> 00:06:12,500 AND THAT WAS 190 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:16,089 WHEN THEY ROSE FROM THE JURY BOX EVERYONE ROSE INCLUDING 191 00:06:16,089 --> 00:06:17,279 THE FORMER PRESIDENT 192 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,410 AND THEN THEY FILED OUT OF THE ROOM TAKING GREAT 193 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:21,480 PAINS NOT TO LOOK IN HIS DIRECTION 194 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,920 THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING OBSERVATION 195 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,720 AND I HAD WONDERED EARLIER WHEN I HAD REPORTED EARLIER 196 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,209 ON THE AIR HERE THAT THAT THE JUDGE TOLD THOSE 197 00:06:28,209 --> 00:06:30,990 JURORS THAT HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THEIR FEEDBACK 198 00:06:30,990 --> 00:06:32,550 THANKED THEM FOR 199 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:34,139 WHAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT 200 00:06:34,139 --> 00:06:35,230 TASK 201 00:06:35,230 --> 00:06:37,690 WHEN THAT COMMUNICATION MIGHT TAKE PLACE BETWEEN THE JURORS AND 202 00:06:37,690 --> 00:06:39,620 THE JUDGE JOSH EINIGER 203 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:40,540 HERE OF WABC 204 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:42,940 REPORTING THAT THE JUDGE THEN PLANNED ON MEETING WITH THOSE 205 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:43,610 JURORS 206 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:45,000 AFTER THEY LEFT 207 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,889 THE COURTROOM AND YOU HAVE TO WONDER JOSH AND IT'S 208 00:06:46,889 --> 00:06:48,649 AN IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION TO ANSWER 209 00:06:48,649 --> 00:06:50,449 YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF THE FOUR PERSON 210 00:06:50,449 --> 00:06:52,560 OR PERHAPS THE TWO ATTORNEYS 211 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,110 WITHIN THE JURY 212 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:55,220 OR 213 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:56,240 WHO IT WAS 214 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,569 ON THAT JURY THAT THAT THAT GOT THEM ALL TOGETHER 215 00:06:58,569 --> 00:07:00,470 AND SAID WHEN WE WALK IN LET'S WALK IN IN 216 00:07:00,470 --> 00:07:01,769 A CERTAIN WAY 217 00:07:01,769 --> 00:07:03,079 BECAUSE YOUR DESCRIPTION 218 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,529 AND OLIVIA RUBIN'S DESCRIPTION EARLIER ON THE AIR 219 00:07:06,529 --> 00:07:08,560 YOU KNOW REALLY MATCH UP TO A T 220 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,620 THE DECORUM 221 00:07:09,620 --> 00:07:11,829 THE WAY THEY CARRIED THEMSELVES 222 00:07:12,899 --> 00:07:15,879 REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THIS CASE 223 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:18,550 HOW THEY CARRY THEMSELVES IS SOMETHING 224 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:20,759 THAT WE CAN ALL OBSERVE AND 225 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:22,889 CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AT LEAST IN THEIR BEHAVIOR I KNOW THERE 226 00:07:22,889 --> 00:07:24,319 ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THE 227 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:25,939 OUTCOME OF THIS TRIAL 228 00:07:25,939 --> 00:07:28,110 BUT TO HAVE WALKED IN 229 00:07:28,329 --> 00:07:30,069 AND TO BE A 230 00:07:30,069 --> 00:07:30,709 CONCERTED 231 00:07:30,709 --> 00:07:33,209 IN THEIR EFFORT TO SORT OF LOOK DOWN NOT BRING 232 00:07:33,209 --> 00:07:36,509 ANY MORE EMOTION OR DRAMA TO A CASE THAT'S ALREADY 233 00:07:36,509 --> 00:07:37,870 HAS HISTORIC IMPLICATIONS 234 00:07:37,870 --> 00:07:39,170 HERE 235 00:07:40,839 --> 00:07:42,899 YOU KNOW DAVID IT'S HARD TO KNOW OF COURSE AS 236 00:07:42,899 --> 00:07:44,420 YOU POINT OUT WHAT 237 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:47,959 YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPETUS WAS BEHIND ALL OF THAT 238 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:50,819 PART OF IT REALLY COULD SIMPLY BE THAT IT WAS 239 00:07:50,819 --> 00:07:51,660 JUST UNCOMFORTABLE 240 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:52,399 FOR THEM 241 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:54,829 YOU KNOW THEY'RE HERE THEY ARE IN THIS INCREDIBLY WEIGHTY 242 00:07:54,829 --> 00:07:56,129 POSITION 243 00:07:56,220 --> 00:07:58,829 THE THE THE FATE OF THE FORMER LEADER OF THE 244 00:07:58,829 --> 00:08:01,290 FREE WORLD IS IN THEIR HANDS 245 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:02,670 AND HE'S A PRETTY IMPOSING 246 00:08:02,670 --> 00:08:05,290 FIGURE ESPECIALLY WHEN HE STANDS SO PART OF IT COULD 247 00:08:05,290 --> 00:08:08,170 SIMPLY BE BE THAT YOU KNOW KIND OF INTIMIDATION 248 00:08:08,170 --> 00:08:11,170 FACTOR OR MAYBE AN ATTEMPT NOT TO ALLOW THEMSELVES TO 249 00:08:11,170 --> 00:08:12,470 BE INTIMIDATED 250 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:13,480 BY THAT 251 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 YOU KNOW TYPE OF STATURE YOU KNOW STANDING THAT PRESENCE 252 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,509 JUST TO THEIR RIGHT AS THEY WALK IN OR THEIR 253 00:08:18,509 --> 00:08:21,209 LEFT AS THEY WALK OUT IT WAS THOUGH AS YOU 254 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:23,209 POINT OUT DAVID I MEAN THERE WERE TWO ATTORNEYS ON 255 00:08:23,209 --> 00:08:24,720 THIS ON THIS JURY 256 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,389 THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WITH ADVANCED DEGREES 257 00:08:27,389 --> 00:08:28,670 SO YOU KNOW 258 00:08:28,670 --> 00:08:30,949 THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH WITH LIFE EXPERIENCE 259 00:08:30,949 --> 00:08:33,769 AND WISDOM PERHAPS WHO COULD GUIDE 260 00:08:33,769 --> 00:08:34,590 YOU KNOW 261 00:08:34,590 --> 00:08:35,700 THE WHOLE JURY 262 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:38,590 IN TERMS OF ITS HOW IT COMPORTS ITSELF DURING THIS 263 00:08:38,590 --> 00:08:39,590 THIS REALLY 264 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:41,240 HISTORIC HISTORIC 265 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:44,049 AND VERY STRESSFUL TRIAL 266 00:08:44,330 --> 00:08:45,970 JOSH EINIGER OF WABC 267 00:08:45,970 --> 00:08:48,549 TV JOSH IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL REPORTERS WHO HAVE 268 00:08:48,549 --> 00:08:50,799 BEEN DOWN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING FOR US BOTH THROUGH 269 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:51,580 WABC 270 00:08:51,580 --> 00:08:53,480 AND OUR NETWORK TEAM HERE 271 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,480 THERE WITH OLIVIA RUBIN AND AARON KATERSKY 272 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,980 AND WE'LL COME BACK TO EACH OF THEM WITH OUR 273 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:57,980 LIVE COVERAGE 274 00:08:57,980 --> 00:08:58,850 HERE 275 00:08:58,850 --> 00:09:01,990 AGAIN YOU'RE WATCHING ABC NEWS LIVE COVERAGE THE PRESIDENT FORMER 276 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:05,090 PRESIDENT BEING BROUGHT BACK UPTOWN TO TRUMP TOWER 277 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:07,600 IN A CITY WHERE 12 JURORS HAVE FOUND HIM GUILTY 278 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,720 ON ALL 279 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,899 34 FELONY COUNTS AGAINST HIM 280 00:09:10,899 --> 00:09:12,120 IT HAD BEEN BELIEVED 281 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,450 AS WE WERE IN DAY TWO OF DELIBERATIONS 282 00:09:14,450 --> 00:09:15,750 THE FACT THAT THE DELIBERATIONS 283 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:17,480 CONTINUE THROUGHOUT TODAY 284 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,220 THEY GOT CLOSE TO THAT END TIME TODAY 285 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:22,779 THERE HAD BEEN SOME INDICATION FROM THE JUDGE THAT THE 286 00:09:22,779 --> 00:09:25,669 DAY WOULD BE WRAPPING UP JURORS MIGHT BE GOING HOME 287 00:09:25,669 --> 00:09:28,299 THERE WAS LEVITY AT THE DEFENSE TABLE BETWEEN THE FORMER 288 00:09:28,299 --> 00:09:31,929 PRESIDENT AND TODD BLANCH HIS LEAD DEFENSE ATTORNEY 289 00:09:31,929 --> 00:09:34,149 THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING HOME FOR THE DAY 290 00:09:34,149 --> 00:09:37,330 WHEN SUDDENLY THE JUDGE SAID THAT JURY HAS REACHED A 291 00:09:37,330 --> 00:09:38,600 VERDICT 292 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,470 AND THEY WILL BE ENTERING THE COURTROOM 293 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:41,370 SHORTLY 294 00:09:41,370 --> 00:09:44,320 A NUMBER OF OUR REPORTERS WHO WERE IN THE COURTROOM 295 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,929 AND IN THAT OVERFLOW ROOM THAT ACTUALLY HAS A CAMERA 296 00:09:46,929 --> 00:09:49,779 TRAINED ON THE COURTROOM AS WELL 297 00:09:49,779 --> 00:09:51,070 ALL DESCRIBED 298 00:09:51,070 --> 00:09:52,820 VERY SIMILARLY THE CHANGE 299 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:54,299 IN TEMPERATURE IMMEDIATELY 300 00:09:54,299 --> 00:09:55,720 AT THAT DEFENSE TABLE 301 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,889 WE HAD BEEN REPORTING HERE OVER THE LAST 302 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,039 DAY OR TWO 303 00:09:59,039 --> 00:10:01,490 THAT WITH EVERY DAY THAT GOES ON THAT GIVES A 304 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:03,779 DEFENSE TEAM A LITTLE MORE HOPE THAT THERE MIGHT BE 305 00:10:03,779 --> 00:10:04,889 DISSENT 306 00:10:04,889 --> 00:10:06,120 AMONG JURORS 307 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,419 WITHIN WITHIN THE JURY AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT 308 00:10:08,419 --> 00:10:09,879 STILL GOING TO COME UP WITH THE SAME ANSWER BUT 309 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,809 AS THE DAYS WEAR ON THAT'S CONSIDERED A BETTER SIGN 310 00:10:12,809 --> 00:10:15,039 PERHAPS FOR THE DEFENSE AND SO THAT SUDDEN TURN AT 311 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:18,409 THE END OF TODAY DAN MUST HAVE BEEN VERY UNSETTLING 312 00:10:18,409 --> 00:10:20,269 FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND FOR TODD BLANCH 313 00:10:20,269 --> 00:10:22,460 YEAH I MEAN LOOK A HUNG JURY IN THIS CASE 314 00:10:22,460 --> 00:10:25,190 MEANING ONE JUROR SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO CONVICT WOULD 315 00:10:25,190 --> 00:10:26,590 HAVE BEEN A BIG VICTORY 316 00:10:26,590 --> 00:10:29,000 FOR DONALD TRUMP IT WOULD HAVE MEANT THE 317 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,860 ANY POTENTIAL 318 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:30,879 RETRIAL 319 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,059 WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IF HE WINS THE 320 00:10:33,059 --> 00:10:33,789 ELECTION 321 00:10:33,789 --> 00:10:35,090 IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN 322 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:37,099 POTENTIALLY UNTIL 2029 323 00:10:37,129 --> 00:10:39,389 SO THEY WERE CERTAINLY HOPING 324 00:10:39,389 --> 00:10:41,440 AT THE LEAST FOR A HUNG JURY HERE AND I'LL 325 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,779 TELL YOU THE FACT THAT THIS JURY CAME BACK TODAY 326 00:10:44,779 --> 00:10:45,679 IT'S PRETTY QUICK 327 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,259 I MEAN YES YOU CAN ARGUE 328 00:10:47,259 --> 00:10:48,669 THIS WASN'T THAT COMPLICATED 329 00:10:48,669 --> 00:10:49,440 A CASE 330 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,389 THAT'S TRUE 331 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:53,169 AS A LEGAL MATTER THOUGH IT WASN'T THAT EASY 332 00:10:53,169 --> 00:10:54,320 A CASE EITHER 333 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,570 AND THE FACT THAT THESE JURORS 334 00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:59,149 CAME BACK AFTER A HALF DAY YESTERDAY 335 00:10:59,149 --> 00:11:00,440 A DAY OF DELIBERATIONS 336 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,490 TODAY 337 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:02,919 CAME BACK WITH A VERDICT 338 00:11:02,919 --> 00:11:05,529 IN THIS KIND OF CASE SUGGESTS TO ME THAT THERE 339 00:11:05,529 --> 00:11:06,259 WASN'T 340 00:11:06,259 --> 00:11:07,669 MUCH DISSENSION 341 00:11:07,669 --> 00:11:09,370 DISSENT ON THAT JURY 342 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:10,379 BECAUSE 343 00:11:10,379 --> 00:11:12,259 YOU KNOW IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR 344 00:11:12,259 --> 00:11:14,759 WHEN THEY INITIALLY WENT BACK THERE DID THEY POLL THE 345 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:16,500 JURY DID THEY SAY 346 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:17,960 WHAT DO YOU ALL THINKING 347 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,059 LET'S DO A QUICK HAND RAISE A LOT OF THE 348 00:11:20,059 --> 00:11:21,470 TIME THAT HAPPENS 349 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:22,720 IN THE JURY ROOM 350 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,639 WERE THEY ALL SAYING THAT THEY THOUGHT GUILTY AT THE 351 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:25,509 OUTSET 352 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:26,110 AGAIN 353 00:11:26,110 --> 00:11:29,029 THIS WAS A PRETTY QUICK VERDICT TO COME BACK WITH 354 00:11:29,029 --> 00:11:31,289 34 COUNTS AND SUGGEST TO ME 355 00:11:31,289 --> 00:11:33,070 THAT IF THERE WAS ANY DISSENT 356 00:11:33,070 --> 00:11:34,309 THERE WASN'T MUCH 357 00:11:34,309 --> 00:11:36,350 LET'S ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK LEGAL QUESTIONS FOR 358 00:11:36,350 --> 00:11:38,169 THOSE WHO MIGHT HAVE JUST JOINED US RIGHT AROUND THE 359 00:11:38,169 --> 00:11:40,129 6 00 HOUR HERE IN THE EAST WHEN PEOPLE COME 360 00:11:40,129 --> 00:11:42,190 TO THE TV FOR THEIR LOCAL NEWS 361 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:44,370 YOU'RE STUCK WITH US A LITTLE EARLIER THAN NORMAL HERE 362 00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:45,690 TONIGHT GIVEN THE 363 00:11:45,690 --> 00:11:48,259 STAKES AT PLAY HERE AND THIS GUILTY VERDICT FOR FORMER 364 00:11:48,259 --> 00:11:51,360 PRESIDENT TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS 365 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,700 THIS DOES NOTHING DAN LEGALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RUNNING 366 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,450 FOR PRESIDENT HE CONTINUES TO RUN NO PROBLEM CORRECT AND 367 00:11:56,450 --> 00:11:58,620 HE CAN VOTE TO WE WERE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT 368 00:11:58,620 --> 00:12:00,970 IT BEFORE HE CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT 369 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:02,250 NO QUESTION 370 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:03,769 THE QUESTION OF VOTING 371 00:12:03,769 --> 00:12:06,789 IS BASED ON NEW YORK STATE LAW BECAUSE FLORIDA 372 00:12:06,789 --> 00:12:07,389 DEFERS 373 00:12:07,389 --> 00:12:08,379 BACK 374 00:12:08,379 --> 00:12:09,870 TO THE STATE WHERE IT HAPPENED 375 00:12:09,870 --> 00:12:12,070 THAT'S NEW YORK AND NEW YORK REALLY THE ONLY WAY 376 00:12:12,070 --> 00:12:14,740 YOU CAN'T VOTE IS IF YOU'RE SERVING TIME 377 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:17,519 ACTUALLY SERVING TIME SO HE WILL 378 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,100 BE ABLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT 379 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:20,809 AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE 380 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:22,379 THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE 381 00:12:22,379 --> 00:12:25,120 WHEN THE SENTENCING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON JULY 11TH 382 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,799 THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE 383 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,629 EVEN AT THAT SENTENCING 384 00:12:28,629 --> 00:12:30,429 WHATEVER THE SENTENCE IS 385 00:12:30,429 --> 00:12:31,629 DOES IT BEGIN IMMEDIATELY 386 00:12:31,629 --> 00:12:34,000 I THINK THAT THERE'S A REALLY SERIOUS CHANCE THAT WHAT 387 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,340 WILL HAPPEN IS THAT THE JUDGE WILL SAY I'LL ALLOW 388 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:37,750 YOU TO APPEAL THIS 389 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:39,899 AND WHILE THEY ARE APPEALING 390 00:12:39,899 --> 00:12:42,220 THE SENTENCE WHATEVER IT IS WOULD BE PUT ON HOLD 391 00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:43,899 THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE NUANCED BUT I FIND IT 392 00:12:43,899 --> 00:12:46,039 INTERESTING IN ALL THE READING BECAUSE HE HAS MOVED TO 393 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:47,169 FLORIDA AND 394 00:12:47,169 --> 00:12:48,250 MADE HIMSELF 395 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:48,909 FLORIDA 396 00:12:48,909 --> 00:12:52,159 A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA THAT'S HIS HOME BASE NOW 397 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:52,950 THAT 398 00:12:52,950 --> 00:12:55,009 HAD THE TRIAL PLAYED OUT IN FLORIDA 399 00:12:55,009 --> 00:12:57,259 FOR EXAMPLE HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE FELONS 400 00:12:57,259 --> 00:12:59,289 IN FLORIDA AREN'T ABLE TO VOTE RIGHT IT'S A DIFFERENT 401 00:12:59,289 --> 00:13:00,700 IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT LAW IT WOULD BE UNDER 402 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:03,879 FLORIDA LAW BUT AGAIN RON DESANTIS COULD COULD CHANGE THAT 403 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:05,220 RIGHT AS THE GOVERNOR 404 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:07,899 HE COULD SAY I'M GOING TO PARDON YOU IN EFFECT 405 00:13:07,899 --> 00:13:10,649 AND ALLOW HIM THEN TO VOTE SO IF IT HAD 406 00:13:10,649 --> 00:13:12,019 BEEN IN FLORIDA 407 00:13:12,019 --> 00:13:13,840 RON DESANTIS AS THE GOVERNOR 408 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,090 WOULD HAVE CONTROL 409 00:13:15,090 --> 00:13:18,470 OVER NOT JUST THE QUESTION OF CAN HE VOTE 410 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:20,919 BUT HE COULD ALSO PARDON HIM WITH REGARD TO ANY 411 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:22,840 CONVICTION AS WELL BUT OF COURSE IT'S A MOOT POINT 412 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,786 BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH HE'S A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA THEY WOULDN'T 413 00:13:24,786 --> 00:13:26,110 HAVE TO DO ANYTHING 414 00:13:26,110 --> 00:13:28,210 TO HELP ALLOW HIM TO VOTE CORRECT BECAUSE THIS PLAYED 415 00:13:28,210 --> 00:13:29,470 OUT IN NEW YORK 416 00:13:29,470 --> 00:13:31,889 WHERE THEY WOULD ALLOW A CONVICTED FELON TO VOTE UNLESS 417 00:13:31,889 --> 00:13:33,620 THEY'RE SERVING TIME NOW THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT CAME 418 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:34,639 UP EARLIER 419 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:35,990 AND IT IS A QUESTION THAT PEOPLE AT HOME ARE 420 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:36,950 GOING TO ASK 421 00:13:36,950 --> 00:13:39,409 WE KNOW THE SENTENCING IS JULY 422 00:13:39,409 --> 00:13:42,299 11TH BY MY COUNT FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL 423 00:13:42,299 --> 00:13:43,599 CONVENTION 424 00:13:43,950 --> 00:13:45,360 IN STILL EXTREMELY 425 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,139 UNLIKELY 426 00:13:46,139 --> 00:13:48,860 THAT THE SENTENCING WOULD INCLUDE ANY KIND OF TIME BEHIND 427 00:13:48,860 --> 00:13:51,450 BARS YEAH I MEAN I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY 428 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:53,889 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOWEST LEVEL FELONY HERE YOU'RE TALKING 429 00:13:53,889 --> 00:13:55,820 ABOUT SOMEONE WITH NO CRIMINAL RECORD 430 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:58,399 ONE QUESTION I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL ASK IS 431 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,610 WELL YOU KNOW THIS IS A DEFENDANT WHO HAS BEEN 432 00:14:00,610 --> 00:14:01,309 ATTACKING 433 00:14:01,309 --> 00:14:02,279 AND TRASHING 434 00:14:02,279 --> 00:14:03,379 THIS JUDGE 435 00:14:03,379 --> 00:14:05,759 EVEN WE JUST HEARD HIM DO IT MOMENTS AGO 436 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:08,679 COULD THAT PLAY INTO THE SENTENCING TYPICALLY IN A CASE 437 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,049 A LAWYER WOULD SAY ARE YOU CRAZY 438 00:14:11,049 --> 00:14:12,789 YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE JUDGE 439 00:14:12,789 --> 00:14:15,049 WHO HAS COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISCRETION 440 00:14:15,049 --> 00:14:17,409 OVER WHAT YOUR SENTENCE IS GOING TO BE 441 00:14:17,409 --> 00:14:19,259 I THINK THIS CASE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT 442 00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:20,720 I THINK THERE'S MORE 443 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,269 OF AN EXPECTATION 444 00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:23,700 OF THE POLITICS 445 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:24,649 MEETS LAW 446 00:14:24,649 --> 00:14:25,269 ASPECT 447 00:14:25,269 --> 00:14:26,740 OF ATTACKING THE JUDGE 448 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:29,000 QUESTION IS HOW WILL THE JUDGE 449 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,289 REACT TO THAT BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE THE DISCRETION 450 00:14:31,289 --> 00:14:33,000 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD USUALLY 451 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,039 HAPPEN IN A CASE LIKE THIS 452 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:37,070 THE JUDGE COULD STILL DECIDE 453 00:14:37,070 --> 00:14:38,340 THAT HE WANTS 454 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:40,379 PRISON TIME BUT I THINK THAT I THINK IN THE 455 00:14:40,379 --> 00:14:42,559 END THAT THAT REMAINS UNLIKELY 456 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:44,139 EVEN DESPITE 457 00:14:44,309 --> 00:14:46,139 THE VERY SIGNIFICANT 458 00:14:46,139 --> 00:14:47,690 AND PERSONAL ATTACKS 459 00:14:47,690 --> 00:14:49,480 ON THIS JUDGE WHAT DO YOU THINK HE DOES THE 460 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,289 JUDGE 461 00:14:50,289 --> 00:14:52,299 I THINK HE'S GOING TO GIVE HIM SOME SORT OF 462 00:14:52,299 --> 00:14:53,029 PROBATION 463 00:14:53,029 --> 00:14:55,360 MAYBE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE 464 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,289 THERE'S A POSSIBILITY 465 00:14:56,289 --> 00:14:57,259 OF HOME CONFINEMENT 466 00:14:57,259 --> 00:14:58,250 WHICH WOULD BE 467 00:14:58,250 --> 00:15:00,799 SORT OF A BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO 468 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:02,870 WE'RE WATCHING THE SECRET SERVICE HERE THEY HAVE ARRIVED AT 469 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:04,320 TRUMP TOWER 470 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,570 JUST SOUTH OF CENTRAL PARK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO 471 00:15:06,570 --> 00:15:08,179 KNOW MANHATTAN 472 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:09,299 THE FORMER PRESIDENT 473 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:10,340 RETURNING 474 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:12,000 TO HIS HOME AT TRUMP TOWER 475 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,139 YOU CAN SEE THE NYPD 476 00:15:13,139 --> 00:15:15,039 THERE TELLING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE 477 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,440 ON THEIR WAY 478 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,820 A DIFFICULT THING THOUGH TO 479 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:21,539 GET THROUGH TO NEW YORKERS WHO KNOW VERY WELL OBVIOUSLY 480 00:15:21,539 --> 00:15:25,059 AS AS DOES THE COUNTRY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING 481 00:15:25,059 --> 00:15:27,639 THAT THAT CERTAINLY WILL DIVIDE MANY AMERICANS 482 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:29,679 BUT IT WILL BE A DAY AND A PIECE OF 483 00:15:29,679 --> 00:15:30,979 HISTORY 484 00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:33,970 THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET IN A LONG LINE 485 00:15:33,970 --> 00:15:34,570 OF 486 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:36,209 SORT OF MARKERS 487 00:15:36,220 --> 00:15:39,090 IN THIS POLITICAL CLIMATE OF THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS 488 00:15:39,090 --> 00:15:40,590 IN OUR COUNTRY 489 00:15:40,590 --> 00:15:42,059 FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP 490 00:15:42,059 --> 00:15:45,259 YOU SEE HERE ARRIVING BACK AT TRUMP TOWER 491 00:15:45,259 --> 00:15:46,620 JUST A COUPLE OF 492 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:48,769 HOURS AFTER THINKING THAT THE 493 00:15:48,769 --> 00:15:50,620 JURY WOULD BE GOING HOME 494 00:15:50,620 --> 00:15:52,200 FOR ANOTHER NIGHT THAT DELIBERATIONS 495 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,360 WOULD GO INTO A THIRD DAY AND THEN THE SUDDEN 496 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,080 TURN IN THAT COURTROOM 497 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,609 WHEN JUDGE JUAN MERCHAN INFORMED 498 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,389 THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHERE YOU SAW HIM THERE JUST MOMENTS 499 00:16:01,389 --> 00:16:03,029 AGO ON THE SIDEWALK 500 00:16:03,309 --> 00:16:05,990 UNCLEAR WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL ADDRESS ANY REPORTERS 501 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:08,929 OR THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED THERE 502 00:16:08,929 --> 00:16:11,710 LET'S JUST LISTEN TO THE THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED THERE 503 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:12,873 ON FIFTH 504 00:16:12,873 --> 00:16:13,917 AVENUE 505 00:16:13,917 --> 00:16:14,960 YOU 506 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,004 CAN 507 00:16:16,004 --> 00:16:17,047 GET 508 00:16:17,047 --> 00:16:18,091 AWAY 509 00:16:18,091 --> 00:16:19,134 OUR 510 00:16:19,134 --> 00:16:20,177 PRESIDENT 511 00:16:20,177 --> 00:16:21,221 WILL 512 00:16:21,221 --> 00:16:22,264 YOU 513 00:16:22,264 --> 00:16:23,308 APPEAL 514 00:16:23,308 --> 00:16:24,351 YOU 515 00:16:24,351 --> 00:16:25,395 ARE 516 00:16:25,395 --> 00:16:26,438 FREE 517 00:16:26,438 --> 00:16:27,482 TO 518 00:16:27,482 --> 00:16:28,525 GO 519 00:16:28,525 --> 00:16:29,569 GUILTY 520 00:16:29,569 --> 00:16:30,613 FAMILIAR 521 00:16:30,613 --> 00:16:31,656 GESTURES 522 00:16:31,656 --> 00:16:32,700 FROM 523 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:35,529 THE FORMER PRESIDENT THOUGH NO WORDS 524 00:16:35,529 --> 00:16:37,820 A SORT OF RARITY FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND IT'S 525 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:39,519 HARD TO DECIPHER 526 00:16:40,460 --> 00:16:43,539 THE DIFFERING CHANCE WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM FOLKS THERE THOUGH 527 00:16:43,539 --> 00:16:44,980 THOSE ON THE GROUND WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT 528 00:16:44,980 --> 00:16:47,289 OUT LATER ONE THING WE DID TAKE NOTE OF OVER 529 00:16:47,289 --> 00:16:49,419 THE COURSE OF THIS TRIAL IS THAT 530 00:16:49,419 --> 00:16:52,850 THE CROWDS GATHERED IN LOWER MANHATTAN WERE WERE SMALL BY 531 00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:53,450 COMPARISON 532 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:55,120 OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN 533 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,200 BY WAY OF RALLIES IN THE PAST 534 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,669 OR GATHERINGS 535 00:16:58,730 --> 00:17:00,759 IN SUPPORT OF OR AGAINST 536 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:02,399 THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND 537 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:05,019 JOHN SANTUCCI I WANT TO BRING YOU IN ON THAT 538 00:17:05,019 --> 00:17:07,329 THE FACT THAT WHAT WE WITNESSED IN LOWER MANHATTAN OVER 539 00:17:07,329 --> 00:17:09,509 THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS 540 00:17:09,559 --> 00:17:12,099 THERE WASN'T LARGE SCALE PROTESTING 541 00:17:12,099 --> 00:17:13,410 OUTSIDE THAT COURTHOUSE 542 00:17:13,410 --> 00:17:15,069 I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AND ALSO 543 00:17:15,069 --> 00:17:16,019 YOU HAVE REACTION 544 00:17:16,019 --> 00:17:18,390 FROM STORMY DANIELS JUST IN YEAH DAVID 545 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:20,660 A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST IF I COULD DAVID JUST 546 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:21,505 AN OBSERVATION 547 00:17:21,505 --> 00:17:22,269 QUESTION 548 00:17:22,269 --> 00:17:25,049 FROM WHAT WE JUST SAW OF DONALD TRUMP 549 00:17:25,049 --> 00:17:25,680 WALKING 550 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,069 UP IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING DAVID 551 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:31,430 I REMEMBER IT ALMOST LIKE DEJA VU AND IT'S FUNNY 552 00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:33,349 BECAUSE IT'S SO CRITICAL TO WHAT CAME UP IN THIS 553 00:17:33,349 --> 00:17:34,059 TRIAL 554 00:17:34,059 --> 00:17:35,710 THE WEEKEND THAT THE ACCESS 555 00:17:35,710 --> 00:17:36,519 HOLLYWOOD 556 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,240 TAPE CAME OUT IN OCTOBER 557 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,990 OF 558 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:40,000 2016 559 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,180 THAT IMAGE THAT WE JUST SAW DAVID IS A RINSE 560 00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:44,019 AND REPEAT 561 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:47,150 OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID THE SATURDAY MORNING AS HE 562 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:49,140 WAS HUNKERED DOWN IN TRUMP TOWER 563 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:51,759 PLOTTING WHAT TO DO FOR HIS FIRST RUN FOR THE 564 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:53,740 WHITE HOUSE HE CAME OUTSIDE 565 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:54,529 THE TOWER 566 00:17:54,529 --> 00:17:56,549 HE PUMPED HIS FIST ON THE CORNER 567 00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:57,339 OF 56TH 568 00:17:57,339 --> 00:17:57,950 STREET 569 00:17:57,950 --> 00:18:00,990 LOOKED AROUND FOR A SECOND AND WALKED BACK IN 570 00:18:00,990 --> 00:18:02,519 IT IS LITERALLY 571 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:05,019 COPY AND PASTE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT 572 00:18:05,019 --> 00:18:06,579 DID AS A CANDIDATE 573 00:18:06,579 --> 00:18:09,920 UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE UNDER WHAT WAS AT THAT POINT DAVID 574 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,740 THE WORST MOMENT FOR HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN 575 00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:14,690 FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND JUST TO SEE THAT AGAIN 576 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:17,549 AS SOMEONE THAT HAS COVERED DONALD TRUMP FOR THAT LONG 577 00:18:17,549 --> 00:18:19,259 FROM THAT MOMENT 578 00:18:19,259 --> 00:18:20,329 IT REALLY 579 00:18:20,329 --> 00:18:21,710 IS JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE 580 00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:23,369 IMAGE TO SEE AGAIN 581 00:18:23,369 --> 00:18:24,849 A DAY AFTER 582 00:18:24,849 --> 00:18:26,980 FOR ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS SO HORRIBLE FOR HIM TO 583 00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:28,250 SEE HIM DOING THAT EXACT 584 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:30,750 THING I MEAN DONALD TRUMP HAS A PLAYBOOK WE KNOW 585 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:33,059 THAT HE TALKS ABOUT EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE 586 00:18:33,059 --> 00:18:36,009 BEING AN EPISODE OF A TV SHOW SO IT CLEARLY 587 00:18:36,009 --> 00:18:38,069 SEEMS LIKE THAT ONE WAS A BIT OF A RERUN 588 00:18:38,069 --> 00:18:39,150 IF YOU WILL 589 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:41,299 BUT JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION DAVID 590 00:18:41,299 --> 00:18:42,119 ABOUT REACTION 591 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,079 FROM MANY PEOPLE 592 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:44,950 AROUND THE FORMER PRESIDENT 593 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:47,240 I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF TEXTS IN THE LAST COUPLE 594 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,220 OF MOMENTS HERE NOT SURPRISED 595 00:18:49,220 --> 00:18:50,140 ANGRY 596 00:18:50,140 --> 00:18:52,400 YOU KNOW TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PIVOT 597 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,109 TOWARDS A WAY TO GET THIS CAMPAIGN 598 00:18:55,109 --> 00:18:56,720 BACK ON TRACK 599 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,269 AND REALLY MOVE AWAY FROM THIS COURTHOUSE YOU KNOW DONALD 600 00:18:59,269 --> 00:19:00,900 TRUMP IS PROBABLY TONIGHT 601 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:03,559 GOING TO SPEND ONE OF HIS LAST NIGHTS IN MANHATTAN 602 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:05,180 AND THEN IT'S BACK TO FLORIDA 603 00:19:05,180 --> 00:19:07,509 WHERE HE IS A RESIDENT NOW AND THEN QUICKLY BACK 604 00:19:07,509 --> 00:19:08,410 ON THE CAMPAIGN 605 00:19:08,410 --> 00:19:11,500 TRAIL DAVID JUST TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT STORMY DANIELS 606 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:13,450 OUR COLLEAGUE OLIVIA RUBIN 607 00:19:13,450 --> 00:19:15,440 WHO RAN OUT OF THAT COURTROOM AND SPOKE TO US 608 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,799 AND THEN QUICKLY GOT REACTION FROM STORMY DANIELS ATTORNEY 609 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:20,799 HER ATTORNEY TELLING 610 00:19:20,829 --> 00:19:21,890 TELLING OLIVIA 611 00:19:21,890 --> 00:19:24,799 IN A STATEMENT QUOTE STORMY IS RELIEVED THAT THIS CASE 612 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:26,029 IS NOW OVER 613 00:19:26,029 --> 00:19:28,799 SHE ALWAYS HAD GREAT FAITH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND 614 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:31,579 THE SOLEMN OATH JURORS TAKE IN UNDERTAKING 615 00:19:31,579 --> 00:19:32,509 THEIR SERVICE 616 00:19:32,509 --> 00:19:34,299 NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW 617 00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:35,700 AND THE SELFLESS HARDWORKING 618 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:38,619 SERVICE OF EACH OF THESE JURORS SHOULD BE RESPECTED 619 00:19:38,619 --> 00:19:39,680 AND APPRECIATED 620 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,109 DAVID THAT IS AN ATTORNEY FOR STORMY DANIELS 621 00:19:42,109 --> 00:19:45,109 TO OUR COLLEAGUE OLIVIA RUBIN HERE AT ABC NEWS 622 00:19:45,109 --> 00:19:47,630 AND YOU GOT TO IMAGINE DAVID FOR TONIGHT 623 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:49,509 GOING BACK TO DONALD TRUMP IF I CAN FOR A 624 00:19:49,509 --> 00:19:52,299 SECOND NOW THAT HE IS GOING BACK INTO THAT TOWER 625 00:19:52,299 --> 00:19:53,900 BACK INTO THAT RESIDENCE 626 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,599 HE'S GOING TO BE DOING DAVID WHAT HE DID FOR 627 00:19:56,599 --> 00:19:57,650 SO OFTEN 628 00:19:57,650 --> 00:20:00,269 WHEN HE WOULD COME HOME FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL 629 00:20:00,269 --> 00:20:02,849 HE IS GOING TO HAVE CABLE TV ON 630 00:20:02,849 --> 00:20:03,549 ALL 631 00:20:03,549 --> 00:20:04,180 NIGHT 632 00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:06,019 HE'S GOING TO BE WATCHING ALL OF THE COVERAGE HE'LL 633 00:20:06,019 --> 00:20:08,589 PROBABLY BE WATCHING US VERY SHORTLY WE KNOW THAT HE 634 00:20:08,589 --> 00:20:10,660 STILL WATCHES ALL OF THE EVENING NEWSCASTS 635 00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:11,819 ON TIVO 636 00:20:11,819 --> 00:20:14,079 SAYS IT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST INVENTIONS EVER 637 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:15,559 AND HE'LL BE FOCUSING 638 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:16,859 ON ALL OF THE COMMENTARY 639 00:20:16,859 --> 00:20:19,490 TAKING THIS IN HE'LL START DOING WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES 640 00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:22,599 WORKING THE PHONES ASKING PEOPLE WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT 641 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:25,329 THIS IT IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE 642 00:20:25,329 --> 00:20:27,190 TO TELL HIM MUCH OF THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE AS 643 00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:29,869 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REPEATEDLY AND YOU MENTIONED THIS EARLIER DAVID 644 00:20:29,869 --> 00:20:32,309 AND IT'S A GREAT POINT AND AN IMPORTANT ONE 645 00:20:32,309 --> 00:20:34,259 DONALD TRUMP IS OBSESSED WITH 646 00:20:34,259 --> 00:20:37,170 TWO SETS OF NUMBERS RATINGS HE WAS ALWAYS FOCUSED 647 00:20:37,170 --> 00:20:38,369 ON TV RATINGS 648 00:20:38,369 --> 00:20:39,650 AND POLL NUMBERS 649 00:20:39,650 --> 00:20:40,799 AND WE KNOW 650 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,470 THAT THOSE POLLING NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT IF THERE 651 00:20:43,470 --> 00:20:44,660 WAS A CONVICTION 652 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,730 IN THIS CASE IT COULD IMPACT 653 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:48,150 A SMALL BUT IMPORTANT 654 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:49,339 SWATH OF VOTERS 655 00:20:49,339 --> 00:20:51,500 THAT IS SOMETHING HE'S GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE WHEN 656 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,109 HE STARTS DOING THE PHONE CALLS TONIGHT HOW MANY VOTERS 657 00:20:54,109 --> 00:20:54,990 DO YOU THINK 658 00:20:54,990 --> 00:20:56,430 COULD THIS BE A PROBLEM 659 00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:58,279 I WANT TO BRING IN RACHEL SCOTT WHO COVERS THE 660 00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:00,519 RACE FOR PRESIDENT ON THAT POINT JOHN THANK YOU STICK 661 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:01,589 WITH US HERE 662 00:21:01,589 --> 00:21:03,819 RACHEL JUST LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS HERE THE LATEST ABC 663 00:21:03,819 --> 00:21:05,299 NEWS IPSOS POLL 664 00:21:05,299 --> 00:21:06,069 20 665 00:21:06,069 --> 00:21:08,490 OF DONALD TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS SAID THEY WOULD RECONSIDER 666 00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:09,250 ORDER 667 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:10,190 OR WITHDRAW 668 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:12,220 THEIR SUPPORT FOR HIM IF HE WERE CONVICTED 669 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:15,539 IN THE NEW YORK CASE NOW OF COURSE IT'S STILL 670 00:21:15,539 --> 00:21:16,599 EARLY ON 671 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:19,099 THE NUMBERS IN THESE POLLS HAVE SHOWN 672 00:21:19,099 --> 00:21:19,940 YOU KNOW CONSIDERABLE 673 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:20,680 MOVEMENT 674 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,730 BACK AND FORTH BUT WITHIN A RANGE 675 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:25,200 WHICH I ALWAYS FIND FASCINATING THIS FAR OUT THIS THIS 676 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,839 RACE IS VERY CLOSE IN THIS COUNTRY IT'S VERY CLOSE 677 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:28,880 IN THE KEY BATTLEGROUNDS 678 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,329 WHICH WE ALL KNOW 679 00:21:30,329 --> 00:21:33,029 THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS WHAT DECIDES THESE PRESIDENTIAL 680 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:33,809 RACES 681 00:21:33,809 --> 00:21:34,680 BUT INSIDE 682 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,990 THE CAMPAIGN 683 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:37,519 THEY HAVE GOT TO BE 684 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:38,180 CONCERNED 685 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,339 ABOUT THE POTENTIAL 686 00:21:39,339 --> 00:21:41,740 IF THESE NUMBERS HOLD BECAUSE 687 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:44,529 20 OF SUPPORTERS WHO MIGHT RECONSIDER 688 00:21:44,529 --> 00:21:47,539 CHANGING THEIR WHO THEY WOULD VOTE FOR 689 00:21:47,539 --> 00:21:49,670 COULD BE JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN AN 690 00:21:49,670 --> 00:21:52,869 ELECTION THAT'S 1 OR 2 POINTS AT LEAST NATIONALLY 691 00:21:52,869 --> 00:21:55,980 AND DAVID OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS THERE ARE ADVISERS 692 00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:58,279 IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ALLIES OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHO 693 00:21:58,279 --> 00:22:00,609 HAVE SIMPLY JUST BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMAGE 694 00:22:00,609 --> 00:22:02,910 OF HAVING THE FORMER PRESIDENT A PRESUMPTIVE 695 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:03,650 REPUBLICAN 696 00:22:03,650 --> 00:22:04,509 NOMINEE 697 00:22:04,509 --> 00:22:05,410 INSIDE 698 00:22:05,410 --> 00:22:06,670 OF THE COURTROOM 699 00:22:06,670 --> 00:22:09,910 NOW THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WALKING INTO TRUMP TOWER HE 700 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:12,900 WAS FOLLOWED BEHIND HIM WITH SEVERAL CAMPAIGN AIDES THEY'RE GOING 701 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:15,150 TO WALK INTO THAT BUILDING AND HAVE TO CONTEND WITH 702 00:22:15,150 --> 00:22:15,819 SOMETHING 703 00:22:15,819 --> 00:22:17,420 THAT NO OTHER CAMPAIGN 704 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:19,390 HAS EVER HAD TO FACE IN AMERICAN 705 00:22:19,390 --> 00:22:22,690 HISTORY AND THAT IS HOW TO HAVE A PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN 706 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:24,619 NOMINEE WHO IS ALSO A CONVICTED 707 00:22:24,619 --> 00:22:25,410 FELON 708 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:27,680 NOW TRY TO GET TO THE WHITE HOUSE 709 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,210 WE HAVE SEEN THE FORMER PRESIDENT BOUNCE FROM THE CAMPAIGN 710 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:32,750 TRAIL BACK TO THE TRIAL IN THE COURTROOM BACK TO 711 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:34,099 THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL 712 00:22:34,099 --> 00:22:34,970 AND HIS ADVISERS 713 00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:37,410 ARE IN FACT WORRIED AS IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS 714 00:22:37,410 --> 00:22:40,000 WE KNOW THAT HE KEENLY FOLLOWS MANY OF THESE POLL 715 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,299 NUMBERS HOW MUCH OF A POLITICAL LIABILITY 716 00:22:42,299 --> 00:22:44,279 THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR HIM NOT ONLY WITHIN 717 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,779 HIS OWN BASE WE KNOW ACCORDING TO OUR ABC NEWS 718 00:22:46,779 --> 00:22:49,349 IPSOS POLL THAT 80 OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WILL 719 00:22:49,349 --> 00:22:51,529 STICK WITH HIM BUT IT'S THAT 20 720 00:22:51,529 --> 00:22:53,359 WHO SAY THEY'LL EITHER RECONSIDER 721 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,069 OR WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT 722 00:22:55,069 --> 00:22:57,059 AND EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER POLLS 17 723 00:22:57,059 --> 00:22:59,769 OF INDEPENDENTS IN A LATEST QUINNIPIAC POLL SAID THAT THEY 724 00:22:59,769 --> 00:23:02,160 MIGHT BE LESS LIKELY TO VOTE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT 725 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,900 IF HE'S CONVICTED OF A CRIME 726 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:06,720 THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT 727 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,420 BECAUSE WE KNOW JUST HOW CLOSE THIS RACE COULD BE 728 00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:12,099 SO EVEN JUST HAVING A SMALL SWATH OF THOSE VOTERS 729 00:23:12,099 --> 00:23:14,269 TURN AWAY FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT COULD MAKE ALL THE 730 00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:15,000 DIFFERENCE 731 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,869 IN THESE 732 00:23:15,869 --> 00:23:19,009 CRITICAL BATTLEGROUND STATES ONE GROUP THAT IS NOT TURNING AWAY 733 00:23:19,009 --> 00:23:20,900 FROM HIM DAVID I WILL TELL YOU IT IS THE 734 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:23,640 REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY HAVE LINED UP ONE BY ONE BEHIND 735 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,950 THE FORMER PRESIDENT WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT REFLECTED 736 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:28,829 AND THE NUMBER OF STATEMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED SINCE THE 737 00:23:28,829 --> 00:23:32,069 VERDICT WAS ACTUALLY REACHED AND READ INSIDE OF THAT MANHATTAN 738 00:23:32,069 --> 00:23:32,880 COURTHOUSE 739 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,609 AND NOT ONLY THAT WE SAW SOMETHING TOO THAT WAS 740 00:23:35,609 --> 00:23:36,579 PRETTY UNPRECEDENTED 741 00:23:36,579 --> 00:23:38,960 DAVID WE SAW A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS 742 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,180 LINE UP BEHIND THE FORMER PRESIDENT AT THAT MANHATTAN 743 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:43,099 COURTHOUSE 744 00:23:43,099 --> 00:23:45,519 INCLUDING THE SECOND IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY 745 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,049 THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DAVID THEY ARE STANDING BY 746 00:23:48,049 --> 00:23:50,210 HIM AS HE GOES THROUGH THIS YOU TALK ABOUT THE 747 00:23:50,210 --> 00:23:53,329 SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE MIKE JOHNSON AND AS YOU KNOW 748 00:23:53,329 --> 00:23:55,420 HE WAS IN THAT COURTROOM 749 00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:58,440 IN RECENT DAYS THERE HAS BEEN JOHN SANTUCCI ALLUDED TO 750 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,680 THIS EARLIER 751 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,920 AS A SORT OF TALLY OF WHO 752 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,339 SHOWED UP IN THAT COURTROOM 753 00:24:03,339 --> 00:24:06,359 TO SHOW THEIR POLITICAL SUPPORT OF DONALD TRUMP WHO WITHIN 754 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SPEAKER JOHNSON 755 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,259 AMONG THEM 756 00:24:10,259 --> 00:24:12,609 AND WE KNOW THAT POLITICALLY UP ON THE HILL SPEAKER 757 00:24:12,609 --> 00:24:15,289 JOHNSON HAS TRIED TO MOVE FORWARD CERTAIN ISSUES THAT DONALD 758 00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:17,710 TRUMP WAS PUTTING PRESSURE ON REPUBLICANS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD 759 00:24:17,710 --> 00:24:19,480 WITH BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR 760 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,279 POINT THEY SORT OF CLEARED THE DECK SPEAKER JOHNSON AND 761 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:23,509 A SHOW OF 762 00:24:23,509 --> 00:24:25,130 POLITICAL UNITY 763 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,619 SHOWED UP AT THAT COURTHOUSE HERE IN NEW YORK 764 00:24:27,619 --> 00:24:29,410 YEAH AND DAVID HOW RARE IS IT TO SEE THE 765 00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:31,380 SECOND IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY 766 00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:33,440 SHOW UP OUTSIDE OF A COURTHOUSE 767 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,089 TO DEFEND A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO WAS STANDING TRIAL WHO 768 00:24:36,089 --> 00:24:37,619 HAS JUST BEEN CONVICTED 769 00:24:37,619 --> 00:24:40,210 ON FELONY COUNTS IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY 770 00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:42,329 PART THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN AMERICAN HISTORY 771 00:24:42,329 --> 00:24:43,950 WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE TODAY HE 772 00:24:43,950 --> 00:24:46,730 CALLS THIS A SHAMEFUL DAY IN AMERICAN HISTORY 773 00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:48,839 AND OF COURSE IT WASN'T JUST THE SPEAKER OF THE 774 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:50,170 HOUSE THERE WERE 775 00:24:50,170 --> 00:24:51,509 37 REPUBLICAN OFFICIALS 776 00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:53,930 THAT VISITED THAT MANHATTAN COURTHOUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO 777 00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:55,119 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS 778 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,369 SEVEN CURRENT OR FORMER ATTORNEY GENERALS 779 00:24:57,369 --> 00:24:58,019 28 780 00:24:58,019 --> 00:24:58,690 REPUBLICAN 781 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:59,650 LAWMAKERS 782 00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:01,500 AND A LOT OF THEM WERE SAYING WHAT THE FORMER 783 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,869 PRESIDENT COULD NOT WE KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS UNDER 784 00:25:03,869 --> 00:25:05,829 THAT VERY STRICT GAG ORDER 785 00:25:05,829 --> 00:25:07,200 SO A LOT OF THOSE REPUBLICANS 786 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,450 WERE COMING OUT AND A SHOW OF LOYALTY FOR THE 787 00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:10,460 FORMER PRESIDENT 788 00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:13,480 TO RAIL AGAINST MICHAEL COHEN TO RAIL AGAINST THE WITNESSES 789 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,400 TO BLAST THIS WHOLE PROCESS 790 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,279 SOMETHING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS BARRED FROM DOING UNDER 791 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,029 THAT GAG ORDER IT WAS A SIGN OF LOYALTY TO 792 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:22,059 THE FORMER PRESIDENT 793 00:25:22,059 --> 00:25:24,450 BUT DAVID THIS IS A PARTY THAT HAS ONLY GROWN 794 00:25:24,450 --> 00:25:25,579 MORE CLOSER 795 00:25:25,579 --> 00:25:28,029 TO DONALD TRUMP AS HE HAS BEEN INDICTED 796 00:25:28,029 --> 00:25:30,250 AND NOW AS HE HAS BEEN CONVICTED 797 00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:33,700 WE HAVE LEARNED MOMENTS AGO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN 798 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:35,130 SAYS THAT THEIR FUNDRAISING 799 00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:38,430 SITE IS DOWN BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE 800 00:25:38,430 --> 00:25:40,019 SUPPORTERS LOOKING TO 801 00:25:40,019 --> 00:25:41,160 SHOW 802 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,210 IN SIZABLE NUMBERS ACCORDING TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THEIR SUPPORT 803 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:45,750 OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT 804 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:50,079 AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT POSTING HIMSELF RACHEL ON TRUTH SOCIAL 805 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,420 YEAH JUST MOMENTS AGO AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS MAKING 806 00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:54,150 HIS WAY THERE TO TRUMP TOWER 807 00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:56,529 HE DID POST ON TRUTH SOCIAL HE CALLED THIS A 808 00:25:56,529 --> 00:25:57,220 DISGRACE 809 00:25:57,220 --> 00:26:00,170 HE CLAIMS THAT HE IS INNOCENT HE SAYS WE'LL KEEP 810 00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:02,089 FIGHTING WE'LL FIGHT TO THE END 811 00:26:02,089 --> 00:26:04,690 ENDING THAT STATEMENT BY SAYING THE REAL VERDICT IS GOING 812 00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:06,200 TO BE NOVEMBER 5TH 813 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,089 BY THE PEOPLE AND IT CERTAINLY WILL DAVID IT WILL 814 00:26:09,089 --> 00:26:11,390 CERTAINLY BE UP TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES 815 00:26:11,390 --> 00:26:13,750 TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PUT FORMER 816 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:16,240 PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE RACHEL SCOTT 817 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,259 OUR THANKS TO YOU AS WELL THIS AFTERNOON 818 00:26:18,259 --> 00:26:20,960 OF COURSE THESE POLLS DON'T INDICATE THAT IF THEY CHANGE 819 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,380 THEIR MIND ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE OF A CONVICTION 820 00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:24,650 THAT THEY WOULD NECESSARILY 821 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:26,150 VOTE FOR PRESIDENT 822 00:26:26,150 --> 00:26:27,549 BIDEN INSTEAD 823 00:26:27,549 --> 00:26:29,839 BUT CERTAINLY A QUESTION MOVING FORWARD IN THE POLLING WILL 824 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:33,109 BE WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY 825 00:26:33,109 --> 00:26:34,930 CAN STOMACH IF YOU WILL 826 00:26:34,930 --> 00:26:37,890 VOTING FOR A CONVICTED FELON AND FOR THOSE WHOM IT 827 00:26:37,890 --> 00:26:39,480 MAKES NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE A 828 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,579 QUESTION 829 00:26:40,579 --> 00:26:41,190 CERTAINLY 830 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:44,309 ASKED OF VOTERS WITH GREATER INTENSITY 831 00:26:44,309 --> 00:26:46,230 NOW THAT IT IS A REALITY 832 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:49,319 34 FELONY COUNTS LATE THIS AFTERNOON HERE IN NEW YORK 833 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:52,210 THE FORMER PRESIDENT FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS 834 00:26:52,210 --> 00:26:54,099 IN THE HUSH MONEY CASE INVOLVING 835 00:26:54,099 --> 00:26:57,019 THE PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS THAT PAYMENT MADE BY MICHAEL 836 00:26:57,019 --> 00:26:58,119 COHEN 837 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,210 DONALD TRUMP'S 838 00:26:59,210 --> 00:27:01,349 YOU KNOW HANDPICKED FOR MANY YEARS FIXER 839 00:27:01,349 --> 00:27:02,789 AND LAWYER 840 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,430 COHEN TESTIFIED THAT HE TOOK OUT A HOME EQUITY LOAN 841 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:06,599 TO PAY 842 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:07,839 STORMY DANIELS 843 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:08,849 AND PROSECUTION 844 00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:11,220 MADE THE CASE THAT IT WAS NOT JUST MICHAEL COHEN 845 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:11,970 HERE 846 00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:15,039 THAT THIS WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT ALONG WITH DAVID PECKER 847 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:17,559 FORMER PUBLISHER OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER 848 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:18,640 TO TRY 849 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,289 TO CATCH AND KILL IF YOU WILL CERTAIN STORIES THAT 850 00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:22,049 MIGHT 851 00:27:22,049 --> 00:27:23,250 BE DAMAGING 852 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:25,210 TO THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 853 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:26,319 AS A CANDIDATE 854 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:26,990 CAMPAIGN 855 00:27:26,990 --> 00:27:28,680 LEADING UP TO THE 2016 856 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,549 ELECTION 857 00:27:29,549 --> 00:27:31,460 AGAIN AS WE KNOW FROM JURY INSTRUCTIONS 858 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:33,640 FROM JUDGE JUAN MERCHAN HERE IN NEW YORK HE TOLD 859 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,000 THEM REPEATEDLY 860 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,170 THAT THEY COULD NOT CONVICT BASED SOLELY 861 00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:38,000 ON TESTIMONY 862 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,309 OF MICHAEL COHEN THAT THEY MUST LOOK AT THE TOTALITY 863 00:27:41,309 --> 00:27:43,599 OF THE EVIDENCE HERE 864 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:46,309 627 HERE IN THE EAST WORLD NEWS TONIGHT COMING UP 865 00:27:46,309 --> 00:27:47,660 IN JUST MOMENTS 866 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:50,259 OUR ENTIRE TEAM STANDING BY THESE ARE 867 00:27:50,259 --> 00:27:52,720 IMAGES JUST MOMENTS AGO FIFTH AVENUE 868 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,710 THE FORMER PRESIDENT MAKING FAMILIAR GESTURES THAT WE HAVE SEEN 869 00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:56,819 POLITICALLY 870 00:27:56,819 --> 00:27:59,589 FOR MANY YEARS NOW TO THE CROWD GATHERED THE CHANTS 871 00:27:59,589 --> 00:28:00,960 FROM THE CROWD 872 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,579 PEOPLE CHANTING 873 00:28:02,579 --> 00:28:04,650 MOST LIKELY IF IT'S NEW YORK CITY 874 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:06,039 AND WE KNOW NEW YORK WELL 875 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:06,940 WITH BOTH 876 00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:08,240 VIEWPOINTS 877 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,319 AND AND CERTAINLY WE HEARD AND SAW THAT DOWNTOWN 878 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,309 ALTHOUGH THE SIZE 879 00:28:13,329 --> 00:28:15,099 AND SCOPE OF THE CROWD DOWNTOWN 880 00:28:15,099 --> 00:28:16,680 WAS MUCH SMALLER 881 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,950 THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ALONG THE WAY CERTAINLY AT 882 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:21,460 POLITICAL RALLIES AND OTHER MOMENTS OF SUPPORT 883 00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:22,529 OR DEMONSTRATIONS 884 00:28:22,529 --> 00:28:23,309 AGAINST 885 00:28:23,309 --> 00:28:25,730 REALLY BOTH KINDS OF DEMONSTRATIONS 886 00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:28,240 WHAT WE SAW AT THE COURTHOUSE IN LOWER MANHATTAN WASN'T 887 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,640 WHAT WE HAVE SEEN 888 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,440 CERTAINLY IN RECENT YEARS 889 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,799 DAN ABRAMS A FINAL THOUGHT FROM YOU AS JUDGE JUAN 890 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:34,960 MERCHAN 891 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,309 AS YOU SAY WILL RELY ON SUGGESTIONS 892 00:28:37,309 --> 00:28:38,150 FROM A PROBATION 893 00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:40,180 OFFICER SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY 894 00:28:40,339 --> 00:28:42,095 TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT 895 00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:43,730 OF THE UNITED STATES 896 00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:47,029 LIKE ANY OTHER CONVICTED FELON WILL HAVE TO SIT ACROSS 897 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:48,980 FROM A PROBATION OFFICER 898 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:51,829 BE ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND THEN THAT OFFICER WILL SUGGEST 899 00:28:51,829 --> 00:28:53,170 TO JUDGE 900 00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:55,359 MERSHON WHERE TO GO FROM THERE RIGHT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT 901 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:56,650 WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION 902 00:28:56,650 --> 00:28:58,920 BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THE JUDGE IS GOING 903 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,130 TO KIND OF DO THIS ONE ON HIS OWN YEAH 904 00:29:01,130 --> 00:29:03,529 YOU KNOW IN A TYPICAL CASE YOU NEED SOME ADVICE 905 00:29:03,529 --> 00:29:05,829 FROM THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT YOU NEED TO INTERVIEW YOU NEED 906 00:29:05,829 --> 00:29:07,349 TO LEARN ABOUT THE DEFENDANT 907 00:29:07,349 --> 00:29:09,789 THEY PROVIDE A WHOLE LIST OF INFORMATION 908 00:29:09,789 --> 00:29:11,450 ETC ABOUT THE PERSON 909 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:12,910 THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP INFORM 910 00:29:12,910 --> 00:29:14,589 THE JUDGE'S SENTENCE 911 00:29:14,589 --> 00:29:17,289 HERE THE JUDGE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP I'M 912 00:29:17,289 --> 00:29:18,799 NOT SURE HE'S GOING TO NEED 913 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,359 A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT NOT SURE 914 00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:24,549 THAT HE'S GOING TO RELY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER 915 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:27,490 ON THAT BUT THERE'S A HUGE RANGE HERE OF POSSIBILITIES 916 00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:29,990 IN TERMS OF A SENTENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING FROM 917 00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:31,650 NO JAIL TIME AT ALL 918 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:34,259 TO UP TO FOUR YEARS IN PRISON NO ONE EXPECTS 919 00:29:34,259 --> 00:29:35,490 ANYTHING LIKE 920 00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:38,180 THE TOP END THE QUESTION REALLY JUST BECOMES 921 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:39,690 ANY JAJA TIME AT ALL AND AS YOU AND I 922 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:41,420 HAVE TALKED ABOUT REPEATEDLY 923 00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:42,720 I THINK THAT'S UNLIKELY 924 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,289 AND IT'S NOT FOUR YEARS 925 00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:46,859 FOR EACH FELONY COUNT IT'S FOUR YEARS OVER THE COURSE 926 00:29:46,859 --> 00:29:48,386 OF ALL THESE COUNTS RIGHT I MEAN IT COULD BE 927 00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:50,420 CONCURRENT IT COULD IN THEORY BE FOUR YEARS BUT IT'S 928 00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:51,240 NOT GOING TO BE 929 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,319 CORRECT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A PRACTICAL REALITY IN THIS 930 00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,039 CASE BASED ON THESE PARTICULAR 931 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:57,690 CRIMES 932 00:29:57,690 --> 00:30:00,130 WE WILL WAIT TO SEE AND AS YOU SUGGEST 933 00:30:00,130 --> 00:30:02,259 I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE JUDGE JUAN MARCHAND 934 00:30:02,259 --> 00:30:03,480 CERTAINLY WILL BE 935 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480 LIKELY COMING UP WITH WHATEVER DECISION HE COMES UP WITH 936 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,099 MOSTLY 937 00:30:07,099 --> 00:30:08,779 ON HIS OWN AND HE'S HAD SOME TIME TO THINK 938 00:30:08,779 --> 00:30:10,180 ABOUT THIS CERTAINLY 939 00:30:10,180 --> 00:30:10,910 THE POTENTIAL 940 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:12,740 THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SENTENCE 941 00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:14,950 FOR A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO LAY 942 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:16,460 TODAY WAS FOUND GUILTY 943 00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:17,529 ON 34 944 00:30:17,529 --> 00:30:19,569 FELONY COUNTS IN A NEW YORK COURTROOM 945 00:30:19,569 --> 00:30:22,200 AGAIN THE FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BACK AT TRUMP TOWER 946 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,869 TONIGHT DECIDING WHAT HIS NEXT MOVE WILL BE 947 00:30:24,869 --> 00:30:27,230 AS HE CONTINUES IN THIS RACE FOR PRESIDENT WORLD NEWS 948 00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:27,970 TONIGHT 949 00:30:27,970 --> 00:30:29,839 BEGINS RIGHT NOW 950 00:30:31,809 --> 00:30:34,849 THIS HAS BEEN A SPECIAL REPORT Announcer FROM ABC 951 00:30:34,849 --> 00:30:36,149 NEWS 952 00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:38,593 WORLD 953 00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:41,037 HEADQUARTERS 954 00:30:42,181 --> 00:30:43,481 IN 955 00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:45,925 NEW 956 00:30:47,068 --> 00:30:48,368 YORK 957 00:30:49,512 --> 00:30:50,812 THIS 958 00:30:51,956 --> 00:30:53,256 IS 959 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,180 WORLD NEWS TONIGHT 960 00:30:56,180 --> 00:30:58,049 WITH DAVID MUIR