TUNING IN FOR LOCAL NEWS AT LEAST IN THE EASTERN
PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU'RE WATCHING ABC NEWS LIVE COVERAGE
OF A SIGNIFICANT
DAY HERE IN AMERICAN HISTORY
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON ALL 34
FELONY COUNTS
IN THE HUSH MONEY
CRIMINAL TRIAL HERE IN NEW YORK CITY THAT OF COURSE
INVOLVED THAT PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS
IN THE WEEKS BEFORE THE 2016
ELECTION AND IT WASN'T SIMPLY
THAT
THE DOCUMENTS HAD BEEN FALSIFIED
THE ARGUMENT THE PROSECUTION
SET OUT TO MAKE WAS THAT THEY WERE FALSIFIED
IN ADDITION
TO TRYING
TO KEEP THIS INFORMATION
FROM THE VOTERS
WHO HAD A RIGHT THEY SAID THAT WAS THEIR ARGUMENT
HAD A RIGHT TO THE INFORMATION TO MAKE UP THEIR
OWN MIND
BEFORE THE 2016
ELECTION
IT HAD BEEN SAID WHEN IT COMES TO THE TESTIMONY
OF MICHAEL COHEN YOU HEARD JON KARL TALKING ABOUT MICHAEL
COHEN THERE
THE DEFENSE HAD CALLED HIM THE GREATEST LIAR OF ALL
TIME
IN THAT COURTROOM DURING CLOSING THE PROSECUTION
SAYING WE DIDN'T PICK MICHAEL COHEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE PICKED
HIM AS OUR KEY WITNESS
BUT THAT IT WAS FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO PICKED HIM
FOR THOSE VERY REASONS THOSE VERY
SKILLS
BEING ABLE TO LIE BEING ABLE TO FIX BEING ABLE
TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
THAT'S WHY MICHAEL COHEN IS PLAYING SUCH A LARGE ROLE
IN THIS CASE
THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT MADE BY THE PROSECUTION
IT HAD BEEN SAID THAT
EVEN IF MICHAEL COHEN IS A LIAR THAT HE WOULD
HAVE A HARD TIME FOOLING
12
NEW YORKERS
IN THAT JURY BOX
JUDGE JUAN
MERCHAN INSTRUCTING
THEM EVEN IN THE END
THROUGH JURY INSTRUCTIONS AGREED UPON BY BOTH THE PROSECUTION AND
THE DEFENSE
THAT THE JURORS COULD NOT FIND THE FORMER PRESIDENT GUILTY
BASED SOLELY ON THE TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL COHEN
THAT THEY MUST HAVE CORROBORATING
EVIDENCE TO THE MAGNITUDE THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM
TO FIND THE PRESIDENT
THE FORMER PRESIDENT GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS IN A
NEW YORK CITY COURTROOM
HERE
LATE TODAY JOSH EINIGER OF OUR STATION WABC
TV HERE IN NEW YORK CHANNEL SEVEN
OF COURSE THAT TEAM DOING EXTRAORDINARY WORK TRYING TO COVER
THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AS WELL JOSH YOU
WERE IN THE COURTROOM DESCRIBE
THE MOMENT THE JURORS WALKED IN AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S
REACTION TO THAT VERDICT
YEAH SO DAVID IT WAS IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE
THE
WILD SHIFTS IN THE ATMOSPHERE
IN THAT COURTROOM
OVER THE COURSE OF REALLY JUST A FEW MINUTES I'LL
ACTUALLY START A FEW MINUTES BEFORE THAT WHICH IS WHEN
THE JUDGE CALLED ALL THE PARTIES BACK TO THE COURTROOM
AT AROUND
415 WHEN THE JURY WAS TO DELIBERATE UNTIL 430
AND THE JUDGE TOLD BOTH SIDES HE WAS GOING TO
LET THE JURY GO AT 430 AND THEN HE LEFT
THE BENCH AND OVER THE NEXT FEW MINUTES
DONALD TRUMP WAS
POSITIVELY
GIDDY WITH LAUGHTER WITH HIS LEAD ATTORNEY TODD BLANCH THEY
WERE LAUGHING
PRETTY HEAVILY AT THE DEFENSE TABLE
AND REALLY
ALL SMILES THEY SEEMED VERY RELAXED
AND IT WAS REALLY ONLY A FEW MINUTES AFTER THAT
THAT THE JURY SENT THIS NOTE SAYING
THEY HAD A VERDICT
SO WHEN THEY DID ENTER
I THINK YOU HEARD OLIVIA RUBIN SAY EARLIER THEY WALKED
IN IN A VERY WELL PRACTICED
EYES DOWN EYES FORWARD
NOT LOOKING AT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHO WAS REALLY JUST
MAYBE A FOOT OR TWO TO THEIR RIGHT AS THEY
HAVE TO FILE PAST HIM
AND THEY GOT INTO THE WITNESS BOX AND WHAT I'LL
TELL YOU IS THAT FROM WHERE WE WERE SITTING DAVID
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE HIS FACE WE CAN ONLY
SEE THE BACK OF HIS HEAD SO IT'S HARD TO
KNOW WHAT EXPRESSION
WAS ON HIS FACE BUT
AS THEY STARTED TO READ THROUGH THE COUNTS COUNT ONE
GUILTY COUNT TWO
GUILTY
THERE WAS NO MOTION
AT ALL IN HIS BODY UNTIL THEY GOT TO COUNT
FOUR
AT WHICH POINT HE SLOWLY STARTED TO SHAKE HIS HEAD
AND THAT LASTED FOR A FEW MORE COUNTS
AND THEN AT AROUND COUNT 6 OR 7
HE WAS JUST STILL
AGAIN
ALL THE WAY THROUGH
TO COUNT 34
WHEN HE WAS FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS DAVID
ANY REACTION WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE FROM ERIC TRUMP
HIS SON WAS HIS SON STILL IN THE COURTROOM AT
THAT POINT
HIS SON ERIC WAS IN THE COURTROOM SITTING NEXT TO
ONE OF HIS ATTORNEYS
AND NO OBVIOUS REACTION FROM HIM EITHER HE WAS LOOKING
STRAIGHT AHEAD
SORT OF RAMROD STRAIGHT
AND DID NOT BETRAY
ANY EMOTION AND THEN I WILL TELL YOU DAVID THAT
WHEN THE JURY DID FILE OUT
IT WAS THAT SAME
AWKWARD
STAGING IN THE ROOM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
SO MANY TIMES THEY WALKED OUT NOW WITH HIM ON
THEIR LEFT
SOME OF THE JURORS
ACTUALLY
TURNED THEIR FACE TO THE RIGHT
IN THE DIRECTION OF THE JUDGE AND AWAY FROM THE
DIRECTION OF TRUMP SO THAT
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH HIM
AS THEY FILED OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEN WHEN
HE LEFT THE ROOM
A FEW MINUTES AFTER THAT
THERE WAS JUST A LOOK OF
DISGUST
I I
HAVE NO OTHER REAL WORD FOR IT ON HIS FACE
AS HE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM AND THEN
AND THEN YOU SAW HIM BEFORE THE CAMERAS AFTER THAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SUV CARRYING
THE FORMER PRESIDENT BACK UP TO TRUMP TOWER HERE IN
MANHATTAN AND
JOSH
THE MOMENTS AFTER THE VERDICT
WAS DELIVERED
WE UNDERSTAND THAT EACH JUROR WAS THEN POLLED RIGHT THERE
WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT SITTING AT THE DEFENSE TABLE
EACH JUROR POLLED BY THE JUDGE
AND HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT AND
I KNOW YOU WERE SITTING BEHIND THE PRESIDENT VERY HARD
TO TELL HIS FACIAL EXPRESSION
BUT DESCRIBE FOR ME IF YOU WILL THAT MOMENT AND
THEN WHAT THE JUDGE
THEN SAID TO THOSE JURORS AFTER THEIR JOB WAS DONE
SO
WHEN THEY POLLED THE JUDGE POLLED THE JURORS
HE DIDN'T PULL THEM ON EACH COUNT
OF COURSE THERE ARE 34 COUNTS THERE ARE 12 JURORS
HE HE BASICALLY WENT THROUGH JUROR ONE
IS THIS YOUR IS THIS YOUR VERDICT
JUROR ONE SAID YES JUROR TWO JUROR THREE AND DURING
THAT TIME
TRUMP DID TURN IN HIS CHAIR AND HE WAS LOOKING
OFF IN THE DIRECTION OF THE JURORS
NO
OBVIOUS
EXPRESSION ON HIS FACE IT SEEMED FAIRLY IMPASSIVE
AND THEN YOU KNOW AT THE END THE JUDGE DID
THESE JURORS FOR THEIR SERVICE HE TOLD THEM I DON'T
HAVE A DIRECT QUOTE IN FRONT OF ME BUT HE
TOLD THEM HOW DIFFICULT
THIS TRIAL HAS BEEN HOW STRESSFUL THIS TRIAL HAS BEEN
FOR THEM
HE THANKED THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND HE EXCUSED THEM
FROM THE ROOM AND THEN HE ASKED THEM IF IT
WOULD BE OKAY
IF AFTER HE EXCUSED HIM FROM THE ROOM HE WOULD
THEN GO TO THEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH THEM
AND THANK THEM PERSONALLY
YOU KNOW YOU KNOW ONE ON ONE
AND THAT WAS
WHEN THEY ROSE FROM THE JURY BOX EVERYONE ROSE INCLUDING
THE FORMER PRESIDENT
AND THEN THEY FILED OUT OF THE ROOM TAKING GREAT
PAINS NOT TO LOOK IN HIS DIRECTION
THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING OBSERVATION
AND I HAD WONDERED EARLIER WHEN I HAD REPORTED EARLIER
ON THE AIR HERE THAT THAT THE JUDGE TOLD THOSE
JURORS THAT HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THEIR FEEDBACK
THANKED THEM FOR
WHAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT
TASK
WHEN THAT COMMUNICATION MIGHT TAKE PLACE BETWEEN THE JURORS AND
THE JUDGE JOSH EINIGER
HERE OF WABC
REPORTING THAT THE JUDGE THEN PLANNED ON MEETING WITH THOSE
JURORS
AFTER THEY LEFT
THE COURTROOM AND YOU HAVE TO WONDER JOSH AND IT'S
AN IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION TO ANSWER
YOU HAVE TO WONDER IF THE FOUR PERSON
OR PERHAPS THE TWO ATTORNEYS
WITHIN THE JURY
OR
WHO IT WAS
ON THAT JURY THAT THAT THAT GOT THEM ALL TOGETHER
AND SAID WHEN WE WALK IN LET'S WALK IN IN
A CERTAIN WAY
BECAUSE YOUR DESCRIPTION
AND OLIVIA RUBIN'S DESCRIPTION EARLIER ON THE AIR
YOU KNOW REALLY MATCH UP TO A T
THE DECORUM
THE WAY THEY CARRIED THEMSELVES
REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THIS CASE
HOW THEY CARRY THEMSELVES IS SOMETHING
THAT WE CAN ALL OBSERVE AND
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AT LEAST IN THEIR BEHAVIOR I KNOW THERE
ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THE
OUTCOME OF THIS TRIAL
BUT TO HAVE WALKED IN
AND TO BE A
CONCERTED
IN THEIR EFFORT TO SORT OF LOOK DOWN NOT BRING
ANY MORE EMOTION OR DRAMA TO A CASE THAT'S ALREADY
HAS HISTORIC IMPLICATIONS
HERE
YOU KNOW DAVID IT'S HARD TO KNOW OF COURSE AS
YOU POINT OUT WHAT
YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPETUS WAS BEHIND ALL OF THAT
PART OF IT REALLY COULD SIMPLY BE THAT IT WAS
JUST UNCOMFORTABLE
FOR THEM
YOU KNOW THEY'RE HERE THEY ARE IN THIS INCREDIBLY WEIGHTY
POSITION
THE THE THE FATE OF THE FORMER LEADER OF THE
FREE WORLD IS IN THEIR HANDS
AND HE'S A PRETTY IMPOSING
FIGURE ESPECIALLY WHEN HE STANDS SO PART OF IT COULD
SIMPLY BE BE THAT YOU KNOW KIND OF INTIMIDATION
FACTOR OR MAYBE AN ATTEMPT NOT TO ALLOW THEMSELVES TO
BE INTIMIDATED
BY THAT
YOU KNOW TYPE OF STATURE YOU KNOW STANDING THAT PRESENCE
JUST TO THEIR RIGHT AS THEY WALK IN OR THEIR
LEFT AS THEY WALK OUT IT WAS THOUGH AS YOU
POINT OUT DAVID I MEAN THERE WERE TWO ATTORNEYS ON
THIS ON THIS JURY
THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WITH ADVANCED DEGREES
SO YOU KNOW
THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH WITH LIFE EXPERIENCE
AND WISDOM PERHAPS WHO COULD GUIDE
YOU KNOW
THE WHOLE JURY
IN TERMS OF ITS HOW IT COMPORTS ITSELF DURING THIS
THIS REALLY
HISTORIC HISTORIC
AND VERY STRESSFUL TRIAL
JOSH EINIGER OF WABC
TV JOSH IS JUST ONE OF SEVERAL REPORTERS WHO HAVE
BEEN DOWN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING FOR US BOTH THROUGH
WABC
AND OUR NETWORK TEAM HERE
THERE WITH OLIVIA RUBIN AND AARON KATERSKY
AND WE'LL COME BACK TO EACH OF THEM WITH OUR
LIVE COVERAGE
HERE
AGAIN YOU'RE WATCHING ABC NEWS LIVE COVERAGE THE PRESIDENT FORMER
PRESIDENT BEING BROUGHT BACK UPTOWN TO TRUMP TOWER
IN A CITY WHERE 12 JURORS HAVE FOUND HIM GUILTY
ON ALL
34 FELONY COUNTS AGAINST HIM
IT HAD BEEN BELIEVED
AS WE WERE IN DAY TWO OF DELIBERATIONS
THE FACT THAT THE DELIBERATIONS
CONTINUE THROUGHOUT TODAY
THEY GOT CLOSE TO THAT END TIME TODAY
THERE HAD BEEN SOME INDICATION FROM THE JUDGE THAT THE
DAY WOULD BE WRAPPING UP JURORS MIGHT BE GOING HOME
THERE WAS LEVITY AT THE DEFENSE TABLE BETWEEN THE FORMER
PRESIDENT AND TODD BLANCH HIS LEAD DEFENSE ATTORNEY
THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING HOME FOR THE DAY
WHEN SUDDENLY THE JUDGE SAID THAT JURY HAS REACHED A
VERDICT
AND THEY WILL BE ENTERING THE COURTROOM
SHORTLY
A NUMBER OF OUR REPORTERS WHO WERE IN THE COURTROOM
AND IN THAT OVERFLOW ROOM THAT ACTUALLY HAS A CAMERA
TRAINED ON THE COURTROOM AS WELL
ALL DESCRIBED
VERY SIMILARLY THE CHANGE
IN TEMPERATURE IMMEDIATELY
AT THAT DEFENSE TABLE
WE HAD BEEN REPORTING HERE OVER THE LAST
DAY OR TWO
THAT WITH EVERY DAY THAT GOES ON THAT GIVES A
DEFENSE TEAM A LITTLE MORE HOPE THAT THERE MIGHT BE
DISSENT
AMONG JURORS
WITHIN WITHIN THE JURY AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT
STILL GOING TO COME UP WITH THE SAME ANSWER BUT
AS THE DAYS WEAR ON THAT'S CONSIDERED A BETTER SIGN
PERHAPS FOR THE DEFENSE AND SO THAT SUDDEN TURN AT
THE END OF TODAY DAN MUST HAVE BEEN VERY UNSETTLING
FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND FOR TODD BLANCH
YEAH I MEAN LOOK A HUNG JURY IN THIS CASE
MEANING ONE JUROR SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO CONVICT WOULD
HAVE BEEN A BIG VICTORY
FOR DONALD TRUMP IT WOULD HAVE MEANT THE
ANY POTENTIAL
RETRIAL
WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IF HE WINS THE
ELECTION
IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN
POTENTIALLY UNTIL 2029
SO THEY WERE CERTAINLY HOPING
AT THE LEAST FOR A HUNG JURY HERE AND I'LL
TELL YOU THE FACT THAT THIS JURY CAME BACK TODAY
IT'S PRETTY QUICK
I MEAN YES YOU CAN ARGUE
THIS WASN'T THAT COMPLICATED
A CASE
THAT'S TRUE
AS A LEGAL MATTER THOUGH IT WASN'T THAT EASY
A CASE EITHER
AND THE FACT THAT THESE JURORS
CAME BACK AFTER A HALF DAY YESTERDAY
A DAY OF DELIBERATIONS
TODAY
CAME BACK WITH A VERDICT
IN THIS KIND OF CASE SUGGESTS TO ME THAT THERE
WASN'T
MUCH DISSENSION
DISSENT ON THAT JURY
BECAUSE
YOU KNOW IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING TO HEAR
WHEN THEY INITIALLY WENT BACK THERE DID THEY POLL THE
JURY DID THEY SAY
WHAT DO YOU ALL THINKING
LET'S DO A QUICK HAND RAISE A LOT OF THE
TIME THAT HAPPENS
IN THE JURY ROOM
WERE THEY ALL SAYING THAT THEY THOUGHT GUILTY AT THE
OUTSET
AGAIN
THIS WAS A PRETTY QUICK VERDICT TO COME BACK WITH
34 COUNTS AND SUGGEST TO ME
THAT IF THERE WAS ANY DISSENT
THERE WASN'T MUCH
LET'S ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK LEGAL QUESTIONS FOR
THOSE WHO MIGHT HAVE JUST JOINED US RIGHT AROUND THE
6 00 HOUR HERE IN THE EAST WHEN PEOPLE COME
TO THE TV FOR THEIR LOCAL NEWS
YOU'RE STUCK WITH US A LITTLE EARLIER THAN NORMAL HERE
TONIGHT GIVEN THE
STAKES AT PLAY HERE AND THIS GUILTY VERDICT FOR FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 COUNTS
THIS DOES NOTHING DAN LEGALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT HE CONTINUES TO RUN NO PROBLEM CORRECT AND
HE CAN VOTE TO WE WERE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT
IT BEFORE HE CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT
NO QUESTION
THE QUESTION OF VOTING
IS BASED ON NEW YORK STATE LAW BECAUSE FLORIDA
DEFERS
BACK
TO THE STATE WHERE IT HAPPENED
THAT'S NEW YORK AND NEW YORK REALLY THE ONLY WAY
YOU CAN'T VOTE IS IF YOU'RE SERVING TIME
ACTUALLY SERVING TIME SO HE WILL
BE ABLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT
AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE
THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE
WHEN THE SENTENCING IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON JULY 11TH
THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE
EVEN AT THAT SENTENCING
WHATEVER THE SENTENCE IS
DOES IT BEGIN IMMEDIATELY
I THINK THAT THERE'S A REALLY SERIOUS CHANCE THAT WHAT
WILL HAPPEN IS THAT THE JUDGE WILL SAY I'LL ALLOW
YOU TO APPEAL THIS
AND WHILE THEY ARE APPEALING
THE SENTENCE WHATEVER IT IS WOULD BE PUT ON HOLD
THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE NUANCED BUT I FIND IT
INTERESTING IN ALL THE READING BECAUSE HE HAS MOVED TO
FLORIDA AND
MADE HIMSELF
FLORIDA
A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA THAT'S HIS HOME BASE NOW
THAT
HAD THE TRIAL PLAYED OUT IN FLORIDA
FOR EXAMPLE HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE FELONS
IN FLORIDA AREN'T ABLE TO VOTE RIGHT IT'S A DIFFERENT
IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT LAW IT WOULD BE UNDER
FLORIDA LAW BUT AGAIN RON DESANTIS COULD COULD CHANGE THAT
RIGHT AS THE GOVERNOR
HE COULD SAY I'M GOING TO PARDON YOU IN EFFECT
AND ALLOW HIM THEN TO VOTE SO IF IT HAD
BEEN IN FLORIDA
RON DESANTIS AS THE GOVERNOR
WOULD HAVE CONTROL
OVER NOT JUST THE QUESTION OF CAN HE VOTE
BUT HE COULD ALSO PARDON HIM WITH REGARD TO ANY
CONVICTION AS WELL BUT OF COURSE IT'S A MOOT POINT
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH HE'S A RESIDENT OF FLORIDA THEY WOULDN'T
HAVE TO DO ANYTHING
TO HELP ALLOW HIM TO VOTE CORRECT BECAUSE THIS PLAYED
OUT IN NEW YORK
WHERE THEY WOULD ALLOW A CONVICTED FELON TO VOTE UNLESS
THEY'RE SERVING TIME NOW THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT CAME
UP EARLIER
AND IT IS A QUESTION THAT PEOPLE AT HOME ARE
GOING TO ASK
WE KNOW THE SENTENCING IS JULY
11TH BY MY COUNT FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL
CONVENTION
IN STILL EXTREMELY
UNLIKELY
THAT THE SENTENCING WOULD INCLUDE ANY KIND OF TIME BEHIND
BARS YEAH I MEAN I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOWEST LEVEL FELONY HERE YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT SOMEONE WITH NO CRIMINAL RECORD
ONE QUESTION I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL ASK IS
WELL YOU KNOW THIS IS A DEFENDANT WHO HAS BEEN
ATTACKING
AND TRASHING
THIS JUDGE
EVEN WE JUST HEARD HIM DO IT MOMENTS AGO
COULD THAT PLAY INTO THE SENTENCING TYPICALLY IN A CASE
A LAWYER WOULD SAY ARE YOU CRAZY
YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE JUDGE
WHO HAS COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISCRETION
OVER WHAT YOUR SENTENCE IS GOING TO BE
I THINK THIS CASE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT
I THINK THERE'S MORE
OF AN EXPECTATION
OF THE POLITICS
MEETS LAW
ASPECT
OF ATTACKING THE JUDGE
QUESTION IS HOW WILL THE JUDGE
REACT TO THAT BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE THE DISCRETION
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WOULD USUALLY
HAPPEN IN A CASE LIKE THIS
THE JUDGE COULD STILL DECIDE
THAT HE WANTS
PRISON TIME BUT I THINK THAT I THINK IN THE
END THAT THAT REMAINS UNLIKELY
EVEN DESPITE
THE VERY SIGNIFICANT
AND PERSONAL ATTACKS
ON THIS JUDGE WHAT DO YOU THINK HE DOES THE
JUDGE
I THINK HE'S GOING TO GIVE HIM SOME SORT OF
PROBATION
MAYBE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE
THERE'S A POSSIBILITY
OF HOME CONFINEMENT
WHICH WOULD BE
SORT OF A BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO
WE'RE WATCHING THE SECRET SERVICE HERE THEY HAVE ARRIVED AT
TRUMP TOWER
JUST SOUTH OF CENTRAL PARK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
KNOW MANHATTAN
THE FORMER PRESIDENT
RETURNING
TO HIS HOME AT TRUMP TOWER
YOU CAN SEE THE NYPD
THERE TELLING PEOPLE TO CONTINUE
ON THEIR WAY
A DIFFICULT THING THOUGH TO
GET THROUGH TO NEW YORKERS WHO KNOW VERY WELL OBVIOUSLY
AS AS DOES THE COUNTRY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT THAT CERTAINLY WILL DIVIDE MANY AMERICANS
BUT IT WILL BE A DAY AND A PIECE OF
HISTORY
THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET IN A LONG LINE
OF
SORT OF MARKERS
IN THIS POLITICAL CLIMATE OF THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS
IN OUR COUNTRY
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP
YOU SEE HERE ARRIVING BACK AT TRUMP TOWER
JUST A COUPLE OF
HOURS AFTER THINKING THAT THE
JURY WOULD BE GOING HOME
FOR ANOTHER NIGHT THAT DELIBERATIONS
WOULD GO INTO A THIRD DAY AND THEN THE SUDDEN
TURN IN THAT COURTROOM
WHEN JUDGE JUAN MERCHAN INFORMED
THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHERE YOU SAW HIM THERE JUST MOMENTS
AGO ON THE SIDEWALK
UNCLEAR WHETHER OR NOT HE WILL ADDRESS ANY REPORTERS
OR THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED THERE
LET'S JUST LISTEN TO THE THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED THERE
ON FIFTH
AVENUE
YOU
CAN
GET
AWAY
OUR
PRESIDENT
WILL
YOU
APPEAL
YOU
ARE
FREE
TO
GO
GUILTY
FAMILIAR
GESTURES
FROM
THE FORMER PRESIDENT THOUGH NO WORDS
A SORT OF RARITY FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND IT'S
HARD TO DECIPHER
THE DIFFERING CHANCE WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM FOLKS THERE THOUGH
THOSE ON THE GROUND WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT
OUT LATER ONE THING WE DID TAKE NOTE OF OVER
THE COURSE OF THIS TRIAL IS THAT
THE CROWDS GATHERED IN LOWER MANHATTAN WERE WERE SMALL BY
COMPARISON
OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
BY WAY OF RALLIES IN THE PAST
OR GATHERINGS
IN SUPPORT OF OR AGAINST
THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND
JOHN SANTUCCI I WANT TO BRING YOU IN ON THAT
THE FACT THAT WHAT WE WITNESSED IN LOWER MANHATTAN OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS
THERE WASN'T LARGE SCALE PROTESTING
OUTSIDE THAT COURTHOUSE
I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AND ALSO
YOU HAVE REACTION
FROM STORMY DANIELS JUST IN YEAH DAVID
A COUPLE OF THINGS FIRST IF I COULD DAVID JUST
AN OBSERVATION
QUESTION
FROM WHAT WE JUST SAW OF DONALD TRUMP
WALKING
UP IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING DAVID
I REMEMBER IT ALMOST LIKE DEJA VU AND IT'S FUNNY
BECAUSE IT'S SO CRITICAL TO WHAT CAME UP IN THIS
TRIAL
THE WEEKEND THAT THE ACCESS
HOLLYWOOD
TAPE CAME OUT IN OCTOBER
OF
2016
THAT IMAGE THAT WE JUST SAW DAVID IS A RINSE
AND REPEAT
OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID THE SATURDAY MORNING AS HE
WAS HUNKERED DOWN IN TRUMP TOWER
PLOTTING WHAT TO DO FOR HIS FIRST RUN FOR THE
WHITE HOUSE HE CAME OUTSIDE
THE TOWER
HE PUMPED HIS FIST ON THE CORNER
OF 56TH
STREET
LOOKED AROUND FOR A SECOND AND WALKED BACK IN
IT IS LITERALLY
COPY AND PASTE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT
DID AS A CANDIDATE
UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE UNDER WHAT WAS AT THAT POINT DAVID
THE WORST MOMENT FOR HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN
FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND JUST TO SEE THAT AGAIN
AS SOMEONE THAT HAS COVERED DONALD TRUMP FOR THAT LONG
FROM THAT MOMENT
IT REALLY
IS JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE
IMAGE TO SEE AGAIN
A DAY AFTER
FOR ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS SO HORRIBLE FOR HIM TO
SEE HIM DOING THAT EXACT
THING I MEAN DONALD TRUMP HAS A PLAYBOOK WE KNOW
THAT HE TALKS ABOUT EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE
BEING AN EPISODE OF A TV SHOW SO IT CLEARLY
SEEMS LIKE THAT ONE WAS A BIT OF A RERUN
IF YOU WILL
BUT JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION DAVID
ABOUT REACTION
FROM MANY PEOPLE
AROUND THE FORMER PRESIDENT
I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF TEXTS IN THE LAST COUPLE
OF MOMENTS HERE NOT SURPRISED
ANGRY
YOU KNOW TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO PIVOT
TOWARDS A WAY TO GET THIS CAMPAIGN
BACK ON TRACK
AND REALLY MOVE AWAY FROM THIS COURTHOUSE YOU KNOW DONALD
TRUMP IS PROBABLY TONIGHT
GOING TO SPEND ONE OF HIS LAST NIGHTS IN MANHATTAN
AND THEN IT'S BACK TO FLORIDA
WHERE HE IS A RESIDENT NOW AND THEN QUICKLY BACK
ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL DAVID JUST TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT STORMY DANIELS
OUR COLLEAGUE OLIVIA RUBIN
WHO RAN OUT OF THAT COURTROOM AND SPOKE TO US
AND THEN QUICKLY GOT REACTION FROM STORMY DANIELS ATTORNEY
HER ATTORNEY TELLING
TELLING OLIVIA
IN A STATEMENT QUOTE STORMY IS RELIEVED THAT THIS CASE
IS NOW OVER
SHE ALWAYS HAD GREAT FAITH IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM AND
THE SOLEMN OATH JURORS TAKE IN UNDERTAKING
THEIR SERVICE
NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW
AND THE SELFLESS HARDWORKING
SERVICE OF EACH OF THESE JURORS SHOULD BE RESPECTED
AND APPRECIATED
DAVID THAT IS AN ATTORNEY FOR STORMY DANIELS
TO OUR COLLEAGUE OLIVIA RUBIN HERE AT ABC NEWS
AND YOU GOT TO IMAGINE DAVID FOR TONIGHT
GOING BACK TO DONALD TRUMP IF I CAN FOR A
SECOND NOW THAT HE IS GOING BACK INTO THAT TOWER
BACK INTO THAT RESIDENCE
HE'S GOING TO BE DOING DAVID WHAT HE DID FOR
SO OFTEN
WHEN HE WOULD COME HOME FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
HE IS GOING TO HAVE CABLE TV ON
ALL
NIGHT
HE'S GOING TO BE WATCHING ALL OF THE COVERAGE HE'LL
PROBABLY BE WATCHING US VERY SHORTLY WE KNOW THAT HE
STILL WATCHES ALL OF THE EVENING NEWSCASTS
ON TIVO
SAYS IT WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST INVENTIONS EVER
AND HE'LL BE FOCUSING
ON ALL OF THE COMMENTARY
TAKING THIS IN HE'LL START DOING WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES
WORKING THE PHONES ASKING PEOPLE WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT
THIS IT IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE
TO TELL HIM MUCH OF THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE AS
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT REPEATEDLY AND YOU MENTIONED THIS EARLIER DAVID
AND IT'S A GREAT POINT AND AN IMPORTANT ONE
DONALD TRUMP IS OBSESSED WITH
TWO SETS OF NUMBERS RATINGS HE WAS ALWAYS FOCUSED
ON TV RATINGS
AND POLL NUMBERS
AND WE KNOW
THAT THOSE POLLING NUMBERS THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT IF THERE
WAS A CONVICTION
IN THIS CASE IT COULD IMPACT
A SMALL BUT IMPORTANT
SWATH OF VOTERS
THAT IS SOMETHING HE'S GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE WHEN
HE STARTS DOING THE PHONE CALLS TONIGHT HOW MANY VOTERS
DO YOU THINK
COULD THIS BE A PROBLEM
I WANT TO BRING IN RACHEL SCOTT WHO COVERS THE
RACE FOR PRESIDENT ON THAT POINT JOHN THANK YOU STICK
WITH US HERE
RACHEL JUST LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS HERE THE LATEST ABC
NEWS IPSOS POLL
20
OF DONALD TRUMP'S SUPPORTERS SAID THEY WOULD RECONSIDER
ORDER
OR WITHDRAW
THEIR SUPPORT FOR HIM IF HE WERE CONVICTED
IN THE NEW YORK CASE NOW OF COURSE IT'S STILL
EARLY ON
THE NUMBERS IN THESE POLLS HAVE SHOWN
YOU KNOW CONSIDERABLE
MOVEMENT
BACK AND FORTH BUT WITHIN A RANGE
WHICH I ALWAYS FIND FASCINATING THIS FAR OUT THIS THIS
RACE IS VERY CLOSE IN THIS COUNTRY IT'S VERY CLOSE
IN THE KEY BATTLEGROUNDS
WHICH WE ALL KNOW
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS WHAT DECIDES THESE PRESIDENTIAL
RACES
BUT INSIDE
THE CAMPAIGN
THEY HAVE GOT TO BE
CONCERNED
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL
IF THESE NUMBERS HOLD BECAUSE
20 OF SUPPORTERS WHO MIGHT RECONSIDER
CHANGING THEIR WHO THEY WOULD VOTE FOR
COULD BE JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN AN
ELECTION THAT'S 1 OR 2 POINTS AT LEAST NATIONALLY
AND DAVID OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS THERE ARE ADVISERS
IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ALLIES OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT WHO
HAVE SIMPLY JUST BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMAGE
OF HAVING THE FORMER PRESIDENT A PRESUMPTIVE
REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE
INSIDE
OF THE COURTROOM
NOW THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WALKING INTO TRUMP TOWER HE
WAS FOLLOWED BEHIND HIM WITH SEVERAL CAMPAIGN AIDES THEY'RE GOING
TO WALK INTO THAT BUILDING AND HAVE TO CONTEND WITH
SOMETHING
THAT NO OTHER CAMPAIGN
HAS EVER HAD TO FACE IN AMERICAN
HISTORY AND THAT IS HOW TO HAVE A PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE WHO IS ALSO A CONVICTED
FELON
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WE HAVE SEEN THE FORMER PRESIDENT BOUNCE FROM THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL BACK TO THE TRIAL IN THE COURTROOM BACK TO
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
AND HIS ADVISERS
ARE IN FACT WORRIED AS IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS
WE KNOW THAT HE KEENLY FOLLOWS MANY OF THESE POLL
NUMBERS HOW MUCH OF A POLITICAL LIABILITY
THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR HIM NOT ONLY WITHIN
HIS OWN BASE WE KNOW ACCORDING TO OUR ABC NEWS
IPSOS POLL THAT 80 OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WILL
STICK WITH HIM BUT IT'S THAT 20
WHO SAY THEY'LL EITHER RECONSIDER
OR WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT
AND EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER POLLS 17
OF INDEPENDENTS IN A LATEST QUINNIPIAC POLL SAID THAT THEY
MIGHT BE LESS LIKELY TO VOTE FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT
IF HE'S CONVICTED OF A CRIME
THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT
BECAUSE WE KNOW JUST HOW CLOSE THIS RACE COULD BE
SO EVEN JUST HAVING A SMALL SWATH OF THOSE VOTERS
TURN AWAY FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT COULD MAKE ALL THE
DIFFERENCE
IN THESE
CRITICAL BATTLEGROUND STATES ONE GROUP THAT IS NOT TURNING AWAY
FROM HIM DAVID I WILL TELL YOU IT IS THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY THEY HAVE LINED UP ONE BY ONE BEHIND
THE FORMER PRESIDENT WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THAT REFLECTED
AND THE NUMBER OF STATEMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED SINCE THE
VERDICT WAS ACTUALLY REACHED AND READ INSIDE OF THAT MANHATTAN
COURTHOUSE
AND NOT ONLY THAT WE SAW SOMETHING TOO THAT WAS
PRETTY UNPRECEDENTED
DAVID WE SAW A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS
LINE UP BEHIND THE FORMER PRESIDENT AT THAT MANHATTAN
COURTHOUSE
INCLUDING THE SECOND IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY
THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE DAVID THEY ARE STANDING BY
HIM AS HE GOES THROUGH THIS YOU TALK ABOUT THE
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE MIKE JOHNSON AND AS YOU KNOW
HE WAS IN THAT COURTROOM
IN RECENT DAYS THERE HAS BEEN JOHN SANTUCCI ALLUDED TO
THIS EARLIER
AS A SORT OF TALLY OF WHO
SHOWED UP IN THAT COURTROOM
TO SHOW THEIR POLITICAL SUPPORT OF DONALD TRUMP WHO WITHIN
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SPEAKER JOHNSON
AMONG THEM
AND WE KNOW THAT POLITICALLY UP ON THE HILL SPEAKER
JOHNSON HAS TRIED TO MOVE FORWARD CERTAIN ISSUES THAT DONALD
TRUMP WAS PUTTING PRESSURE ON REPUBLICANS NOT TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR
POINT THEY SORT OF CLEARED THE DECK SPEAKER JOHNSON AND
A SHOW OF
POLITICAL UNITY
SHOWED UP AT THAT COURTHOUSE HERE IN NEW YORK
YEAH AND DAVID HOW RARE IS IT TO SEE THE
SECOND IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY
SHOW UP OUTSIDE OF A COURTHOUSE
TO DEFEND A FORMER PRESIDENT WHO WAS STANDING TRIAL WHO
HAS JUST BEEN CONVICTED
ON FELONY COUNTS IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY
PART THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN AMERICAN HISTORY
WE'VE HEARD FROM THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE TODAY HE
CALLS THIS A SHAMEFUL DAY IN AMERICAN HISTORY
AND OF COURSE IT WASN'T JUST THE SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE THERE WERE
37 REPUBLICAN OFFICIALS
THAT VISITED THAT MANHATTAN COURTHOUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO
REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS
SEVEN CURRENT OR FORMER ATTORNEY GENERALS
28
REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKERS
AND A LOT OF THEM WERE SAYING WHAT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT COULD NOT WE KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS UNDER
THAT VERY STRICT GAG ORDER
SO A LOT OF THOSE REPUBLICANS
WERE COMING OUT AND A SHOW OF LOYALTY FOR THE
FORMER PRESIDENT
TO RAIL AGAINST MICHAEL COHEN TO RAIL AGAINST THE WITNESSES
TO BLAST THIS WHOLE PROCESS
SOMETHING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS BARRED FROM DOING UNDER
THAT GAG ORDER IT WAS A SIGN OF LOYALTY TO
THE FORMER PRESIDENT
BUT DAVID THIS IS A PARTY THAT HAS ONLY GROWN
MORE CLOSER
TO DONALD TRUMP AS HE HAS BEEN INDICTED
AND NOW AS HE HAS BEEN CONVICTED
WE HAVE LEARNED MOMENTS AGO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
SAYS THAT THEIR FUNDRAISING
SITE IS DOWN BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE
SUPPORTERS LOOKING TO
SHOW
IN SIZABLE NUMBERS ACCORDING TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THEIR SUPPORT
OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT
AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT POSTING HIMSELF RACHEL ON TRUTH SOCIAL
YEAH JUST MOMENTS AGO AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS MAKING
HIS WAY THERE TO TRUMP TOWER
HE DID POST ON TRUTH SOCIAL HE CALLED THIS A
DISGRACE
HE CLAIMS THAT HE IS INNOCENT HE SAYS WE'LL KEEP
FIGHTING WE'LL FIGHT TO THE END
ENDING THAT STATEMENT BY SAYING THE REAL VERDICT IS GOING
TO BE NOVEMBER 5TH
BY THE PEOPLE AND IT CERTAINLY WILL DAVID IT WILL
CERTAINLY BE UP TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES
TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO PUT FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE RACHEL SCOTT
OUR THANKS TO YOU AS WELL THIS AFTERNOON
OF COURSE THESE POLLS DON'T INDICATE THAT IF THEY CHANGE
THEIR MIND ON DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE OF A CONVICTION
THAT THEY WOULD NECESSARILY
VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
BIDEN INSTEAD
BUT CERTAINLY A QUESTION MOVING FORWARD IN THE POLLING WILL
BE WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN VOTERS IN THIS COUNTRY
CAN STOMACH IF YOU WILL
VOTING FOR A CONVICTED FELON AND FOR THOSE WHOM IT
MAKES NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE A
QUESTION
CERTAINLY
ASKED OF VOTERS WITH GREATER INTENSITY
NOW THAT IT IS A REALITY
34 FELONY COUNTS LATE THIS AFTERNOON HERE IN NEW YORK
THE FORMER PRESIDENT FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS
IN THE HUSH MONEY CASE INVOLVING
THE PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS THAT PAYMENT MADE BY MICHAEL
COHEN
DONALD TRUMP'S
YOU KNOW HANDPICKED FOR MANY YEARS FIXER
AND LAWYER
COHEN TESTIFIED THAT HE TOOK OUT A HOME EQUITY LOAN
TO PAY
STORMY DANIELS
AND PROSECUTION
MADE THE CASE THAT IT WAS NOT JUST MICHAEL COHEN
HERE
THAT THIS WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT ALONG WITH DAVID PECKER
FORMER PUBLISHER OF THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER
TO TRY
TO CATCH AND KILL IF YOU WILL CERTAIN STORIES THAT
MIGHT
BE DAMAGING
TO THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
AS A CANDIDATE
CAMPAIGN
LEADING UP TO THE 2016
ELECTION
AGAIN AS WE KNOW FROM JURY INSTRUCTIONS
FROM JUDGE JUAN MERCHAN HERE IN NEW YORK HE TOLD
THEM REPEATEDLY
THAT THEY COULD NOT CONVICT BASED SOLELY
ON TESTIMONY
OF MICHAEL COHEN THAT THEY MUST LOOK AT THE TOTALITY
OF THE EVIDENCE HERE
627 HERE IN THE EAST WORLD NEWS TONIGHT COMING UP
IN JUST MOMENTS
OUR ENTIRE TEAM STANDING BY THESE ARE
IMAGES JUST MOMENTS AGO FIFTH AVENUE
THE FORMER PRESIDENT MAKING FAMILIAR GESTURES THAT WE HAVE SEEN
POLITICALLY
FOR MANY YEARS NOW TO THE CROWD GATHERED THE CHANTS
FROM THE CROWD
PEOPLE CHANTING
MOST LIKELY IF IT'S NEW YORK CITY
AND WE KNOW NEW YORK WELL
WITH BOTH
VIEWPOINTS
AND AND CERTAINLY WE HEARD AND SAW THAT DOWNTOWN
ALTHOUGH THE SIZE
AND SCOPE OF THE CROWD DOWNTOWN
WAS MUCH SMALLER
THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ALONG THE WAY CERTAINLY AT
POLITICAL RALLIES AND OTHER MOMENTS OF SUPPORT
OR DEMONSTRATIONS
AGAINST
REALLY BOTH KINDS OF DEMONSTRATIONS
WHAT WE SAW AT THE COURTHOUSE IN LOWER MANHATTAN WASN'T
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
CERTAINLY IN RECENT YEARS
DAN ABRAMS A FINAL THOUGHT FROM YOU AS JUDGE JUAN
MERCHAN
AS YOU SAY WILL RELY ON SUGGESTIONS
FROM A PROBATION
OFFICER SORT OF EXTRAORDINARY
TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES
LIKE ANY OTHER CONVICTED FELON WILL HAVE TO SIT ACROSS
FROM A PROBATION OFFICER
BE ASKED SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND THEN THAT OFFICER WILL SUGGEST
TO JUDGE
MERSHON WHERE TO GO FROM THERE RIGHT THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT
WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION
BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THE JUDGE IS GOING
TO KIND OF DO THIS ONE ON HIS OWN YEAH
YOU KNOW IN A TYPICAL CASE YOU NEED SOME ADVICE
FROM THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT YOU NEED TO INTERVIEW YOU NEED
TO LEARN ABOUT THE DEFENDANT
THEY PROVIDE A WHOLE LIST OF INFORMATION
ETC ABOUT THE PERSON
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HELP INFORM
THE JUDGE'S SENTENCE
HERE THE JUDGE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP I'M
NOT SURE HE'S GOING TO NEED
A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT NOT SURE
THAT HE'S GOING TO RELY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER
ON THAT BUT THERE'S A HUGE RANGE HERE OF POSSIBILITIES
IN TERMS OF A SENTENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING FROM
NO JAIL TIME AT ALL
TO UP TO FOUR YEARS IN PRISON NO ONE EXPECTS
ANYTHING LIKE
THE TOP END THE QUESTION REALLY JUST BECOMES
ANY JAJA TIME AT ALL AND AS YOU AND I
HAVE TALKED ABOUT REPEATEDLY
I THINK THAT'S UNLIKELY
AND IT'S NOT FOUR YEARS
FOR EACH FELONY COUNT IT'S FOUR YEARS OVER THE COURSE
OF ALL THESE COUNTS RIGHT I MEAN IT COULD BE
CONCURRENT IT COULD IN THEORY BE FOUR YEARS BUT IT'S
NOT GOING TO BE
CORRECT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A PRACTICAL REALITY IN THIS
CASE BASED ON THESE PARTICULAR
CRIMES
WE WILL WAIT TO SEE AND AS YOU SUGGEST
I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE JUDGE JUAN MARCHAND
CERTAINLY WILL BE
LIKELY COMING UP WITH WHATEVER DECISION HE COMES UP WITH
MOSTLY
ON HIS OWN AND HE'S HAD SOME TIME TO THINK
ABOUT THIS CERTAINLY
THE POTENTIAL
THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SENTENCE
FOR A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO LAY
TODAY WAS FOUND GUILTY
ON 34
FELONY COUNTS IN A NEW YORK COURTROOM
AGAIN THE FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP BACK AT TRUMP TOWER
TONIGHT DECIDING WHAT HIS NEXT MOVE WILL BE
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