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President's intent was to stay
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an oath I'm t gonna
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on no stinking circus They
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Trump and he deceived them
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The Select Committee laid the
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of Justice Donald Trump is
going to be the defendant

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and the candidate It's hard
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An historic

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day here in Washington

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A federal grand jury
here has indicted

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former President Donald Trump Mr
Trump is charged with three

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counts of conspiracy

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and

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one count of obstruction

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This is the third criminal
case brought against the former

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president this year He will
now head to appear in

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federal court for the arraignment

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This was not quite
the return to Washington

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this former president had
envisioned for himself

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We were getting ready
to win this election

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Frankly

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we did winhis election

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cheers and applause siren blaring
I won this election by

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hundreds of thousands of votes
There's no way I

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lost Georgia there's no way
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votes fellas

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I need 11

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000 votes Give ma

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break

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sirens

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blaring

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Make no mistake this election
was stolen from you from

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me from the

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country

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And we fight

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We fight like
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you don't fight like hell
you're not going to have

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a country

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anymore

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camera

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NARRATOR

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For

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the

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first time in American history

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a president

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charged with crimes in office

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A major development in Special
Counsel Jack Smith's investigation

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into former president Trump
Special Counsel Jack Smith

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will make remarks at a
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Department shortly

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certainly in this investigation

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unsealed charging Donald

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with conspiring

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to defraud the United States

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conspiring to disenfranchise voters

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and conspiring and attempting to
obstruct an official proceeding

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Since the attack on our
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has remained committed

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to ensuring accountability

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for those criminally responsible

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for what happened that day

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Jack Smith is sort of
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central casting

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career federal prosecutor

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He's been doing this
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He has a reputation

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for being thorough and methodical

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reckless

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aggressive

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He's a very formidable
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my office will seek
a speedy trial

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so that our evidence can
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judged

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by a jury
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In the middle
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election

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a critical moment
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It lands us right in
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going to be tainted

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the appearance of

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politics

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at play

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Obviously that's the card that
Donald Trump will play

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They waited right to the
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until I became the dominant

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force in the polls

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I got indicted over bull
bleep I got indicted Bull

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bleep I get indicted for
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If he's convicted

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then he's

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you know running

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for president

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as someone who has
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of federal crimes

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I love that mugshot

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I love that beautiful woman
right there with a

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mugshot To say the stakes
for that trial are high

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doesn't even begin to
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We often in the media
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the century for

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this sensational

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trial or that
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this would be I think
the trial of the century

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Because I cannot imagine anything
more important th a former

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president

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on trial

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charged

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with trying to subvert

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American democracy

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sirens

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blaring

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indistinct radio

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chatter

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are still high
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at the Capitol NARRATOR The
federal indictment has its roots

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in the aftermath

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of the January 6th attack

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The chaos

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here has

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aken the U S Capitol
and the country Our nation's

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capital under a
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under a city wide lockdown

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In Congress

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there were calls to create
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commission a 9 11 style
commission to look into the

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causes of the attack A
bill to create a bipartisan

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commission faces an uphill
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was that the Senate Republicans

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refused to do that

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To do what Congress has
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incidents of great national

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catastrophe

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or crisis or controversy

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which is to create

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a bipartisan

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special committee

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across both chambers

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NARRATOR Republicans

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led by Senator Mitch McConnell

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wouldn't support forming a commission

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at might go after Trump

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almost instinctively goes into
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He's not necessarily gonna go
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the rest of his caucus
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In the face
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the Democratic Speaker of
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created a committee
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and sadness

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I'm announcing that the
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select committee

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on the January

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6th insurrection

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The House of Representatives

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today did what the Senate
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a select committee

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It was the hope of
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that they'd be able to
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Republican

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support that there wouldn't be
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in fact there was

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And in the end
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the formation of that committee

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Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney
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ended up serving
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fact that Liz Cheney and
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two House Republicans

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who believe that we should
know what happened on January

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6th that people
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from Congress that people should
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incredibly

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They would spend a year
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the evidence

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Tim Heaphy was
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A former U S attorney

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Heaphy led the independent review
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in 2017

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and was now taking
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I think it was
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former prosecutors

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Lawyers that have the skill
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to digest

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a large amount of documents

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and to sort of discern
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from what's not

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That skill set is developed
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investigating cases in federal
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offices

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NARRATOR They conducted more than
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Select Committee is shifting

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into high gear preparing to
do battle with some pretty

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big names in the
Trump world NARRATOR Reviewed

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millions of documents

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The House Committee probing the
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issued ten new subpoenas NARRATOR
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These subpoenas brings the focus
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president Donald Trump in the
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to the insurrection

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They're con people
They're con artists

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Trump denounced the committee

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The Select Committee on January
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Every one of them
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left hater

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The committee issued a subpoena
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president Trump himself
NARRATOR He refuse

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Trump suing the January 6th
committee to block a subpoena

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for

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his testimony NARRATOR And while
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others followed his lead

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Criminal contempt charges against former
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refusing

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with the January 6th committee
NARRATOR The committee's final report

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spans

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692 pages

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a case against Donald Trump

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A blueprint

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for Special Counsel Jack Smith

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We saw our work

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as the

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first step in a process

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and not the end
of the process

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It's very clear

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that the select committee laid
the path down for the

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Department of Justice

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The January 6th case that
will be heard in Judge

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Chutkan's courtroom in
Washington D C

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has

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the most

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striking resemblance to

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what

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unspooled itself from the
January 6th committee

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The basis

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of the indictment

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looks like a carbon copy

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of what the January
6th committee uncovered

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A lot of the evidence

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that we uncovered

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is now in the hands
of the Department of Justice

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I just think all

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what

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we see now

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is a by product
of the wor of

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the January select committee

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NARRATOR Bennie Thompson

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a longtime

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Democratic congressman

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chaired the committee

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Bennie Thompson is a Mississippi

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congressman

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a Black man who grew
up during the Civil Rights

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era in Mississippi

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during the last vestiges
of Jim Crow

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Glory glory hallelujah

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and saw

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how hard fought

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the franchise to vote was
for so many Black Americans

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NARRATOR

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In January

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6th

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Thompson saw parallels

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One

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of the symbols

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of Southern

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resistance

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to

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voting rights and equal oppounity

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was the Confederate

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battle flag crowd

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clamoring

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And to see that flag

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being waved by many
of the protestors

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brought back those memories

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When he saw

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rioters

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storm the Capitol carrying the
Confederate battle flag essentially

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trying to take away the
votes of the American people

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crowd chanting Fight for

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Trump

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that I know
affected him profoundly

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And certainly was a

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driving

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factor

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in the way that he
led the select committee

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NARRATOR Thompson's committee had gathered
a trove of information

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The challenge

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what do with it

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The one thing that
we knew was

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the information

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that we have is compelling

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The thing we needed to
do was tell that to

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the American people in
a compelling way

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So that's why we brought
in a former president of

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ABC News

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Yeah I got a call
pretty much out of the

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blue

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from the January
the 6th committee

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They wanted they
wanted a storyteller

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And while they were brilliant
they were brilliant lawyers

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storytelling

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for a mass audience is
not what they do

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To bring in a guy
like this who would think

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outside the box

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really did prove
to be fruitful

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And it was Goldston who
really began to envision

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this as in a way
a kind of miniseries

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that there would be you
know sort of nine episodes

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and that these episodes
would tackle particular themes

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Attack on the Capitol

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The Investigation

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NARRATOR The first
hearing was primetime

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television

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the nation is about to
witness a defining moment The

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first hearing before the country
the results of the January

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6th investigation

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This is an extraordinary

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moment in American history

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When it came to
that first hearing

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we knew how high the
stakes were is about to

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hold its first

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primetime

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hearing

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We were either
going to you

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know make people realize
that this is important

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you know or

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once you've lost them you've
lost them for good

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On the evening of
June 9 8

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01 p m
the drs opened

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My heart was beating pretty
fast on June 9

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and

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it was a real question

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of

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is this going to
work or not

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All right everybody here we
go five on the line

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please

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I'm

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in this

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tiny control room right up
the stairs from Cannon Caucus

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And

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we count down to

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the start the hearing

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and at that point

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what can you do

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Here we go in three

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two

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one

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The select committee to investigate

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the January 6th attack

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on the United States Capitol

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will be in order

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We

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wanted to make sure

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that this was a
presentation that would

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grab the audience and hold
onto 'em Chairman Thompson loved

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to say

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It's gotta pop

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NARRATOR To get
it to pop

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they had just the thing

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Donald Trump lost the presidential

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election

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in 2020

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Don't believe me

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Hear what his former attorney

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general had to
say about it

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on video Not just what
I I'd been through I've

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had I had three discussions

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with the president that
I can recall NARRATOR

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Former Attorney General

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Bill Barr

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This is the Attorney General
of the United States

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of America

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For him to come
forth under oath

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I think was very powerful
on video I made it

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clear I did
not agree with

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the idea of saying the
election was stolen and putting

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out this stuff which I
told the president was bull

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bleep

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Bill Barr

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who had been hated by
the left and who had

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been beloved by Trump
all the way until

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December of 2020

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to hear him

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say

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mincing

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no words

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that there was
all this bull

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bleep that was being perpetrated

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by Trump

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made you realize that ay
we're now about to walk

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into a portal

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of evidence

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that

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is

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um that is
in fact different

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than everything else NARRATOR

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Following Barr

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shocking video

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Most of the footage

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we are about to play
has never been seen

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The select committee obtained

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it as a part of
our investigation shouting Hold thline

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Hold

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the

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line

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Hold

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the

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line

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Break

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the

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line

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shouting

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We have a breach of
the Capitol breach of the

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Capitol on the upper level
We can't hold this we're

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gonna get too many bleep
people Look at this bleep

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vantage point we're
bleep We need

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to

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hold

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the

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doors

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of

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the

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Capitol

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shouting I need indistinct support
shouting We lost the line

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We've lost the line All
MPD fall back on video

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All MPD fall
back up to

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the upper deck All MPD
fall back to the upper

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deck ASAP crowd shouting on
video crowd chanting Nancy In

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the room that moment

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we had officers that had
been there on January

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6

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crowd

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shouting

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on video indistinct

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shouting struggling shouting struggling
continue There was

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a real

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gravity

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that we wanted to bring
to that first hearing that

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that video

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really put in perspective for
us there get him out

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get him up Get him
up Officer down Get him

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up officers shouting Get him
up Hold up Hold up

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Get him up shouting continues
I don't think anyone

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until that footage was shown

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had really fully
understood the violence

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of the day

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crowd

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cheering

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crowd

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shouting

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Help

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shouting

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continues

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on

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video

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Those

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law enforcement

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personnel

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here are people
who were sworn

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to protect the Capitol

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come to work
on that day

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too just that

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and they are assaulted

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crowd cheering on video NARRATOR
Paying special attention to the

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hearing

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Donald Trump who

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responded

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on his own social
media platform dramatized

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The so called Rush
on the Capitol

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was not caused by me

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00:19:37,769 --> 00:19:41,880
it was caused by a
rigged and stolen election

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indistinct radio

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chatter NARRATOR The committee continued

547
00:19:45,710 --> 00:19:48,869
laying out its evidence
to the contrary

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The attack on our Capitol
was not a spontaneous

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00:19:51,609 --> 00:19:52,909
riot

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President Trump summoned the mob

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assembled the mob

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and lit the flame
of this attack

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NARRATOR Vice chair
at the hearing

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Liz Cheney

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a lifelong Republican

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and

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rock ribbed conservative

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00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:09,890
or destroy

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by force

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the government I chose Liz
Cheney as my vice chair

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she had

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Republican

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credibility

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in the broader sense

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So

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you take an African American

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liberal

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and a white

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female conservative

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00:20:30,619 --> 00:20:32,960
to lead this committee

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Liz Cheney is Republican

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royalty in many ways

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She's

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the daughter

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00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:44,079
of Dick Cheney

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00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:45,759
the vice president

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She's very conservative
she represents Wyoming

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No one would mistake
her for a liberal

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but

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she also

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00:20:57,450 --> 00:21:01,140
was someone who broke very
publicly with Donald Trump

582
00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:02,410
And there is

583
00:21:02,410 --> 00:21:03,680
no RINO in America

584
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,710
who has thrown in her
lot with the radical left

585
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:09,129
more than Liz Cheney

586
00:21:10,210 --> 00:21:12,440
crowd booing She
has gone crazy

587
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,519
I will do everything
I can to ensure

588
00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:18,269
the former president never again
gets anywhere near the Oval

589
00:21:18,269 --> 00:21:19,569
Office

590
00:21:19,890 --> 00:21:22,369
She's been so strong on
We need to have the

591
00:21:22,369 --> 00:21:24,210
truth about January 6 We
need to have the truth

592
00:21:24,210 --> 00:21:26,970
about what happened before January
6 We can't have Trump

593
00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:30,509
again he can't
be president again

594
00:21:30,509 --> 00:21:32,970
I talked to her about
what was motivating her

595
00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:34,910
And she said every time

596
00:21:34,910 --> 00:21:39,680
she sees the video crowd
chanting Mike Pence of Mike

597
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,480
Pence being rushed to safety
for fear of his life

598
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,710
on January 6

599
00:21:43,710 --> 00:21:46,738
Evacuate so we can secure
the members on the other

600
00:21:46,738 --> 00:21:49,220
side copy she saw in
her mind the image of

601
00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:50,200
her father

602
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,089
A plane has just crashed
into the World Trade Center

603
00:21:53,089 --> 00:21:55,519
here in New York City
explosion Oh my God That

604
00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:57,150
looks like a second plane

605
00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,880
Dick Cheney the vice
president being rushed away

606
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,079
from his office in the
White House to theunker on

607
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,180
9 11 It is one
of the darkest days in

608
00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:05,039
America

609
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:05,660
attacked

610
00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:07,170
in an act of terrorist

611
00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:07,849
war

612
00:22:07,849 --> 00:22:09,039
Tremendously

613
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:10,349
sad day

614
00:22:10,349 --> 00:22:11,649
insurrectionists

615
00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:13,859
have stormed the
U S Capitol

616
00:22:13,859 --> 00:22:17,519
and they have been cheered
on by the president

617
00:22:17,519 --> 00:22:19,200
And suddenly I got it

618
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,029
Suddenly I got
it for her

619
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:23,500
this was what Al Qaeda
and 9 11 were to

620
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,960
her father

621
00:22:26,349 --> 00:22:27,799
To the extent
that her father

622
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:28,900
became really

623
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:30,200
quite driven

624
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,359
by his view of the
mission to protect America after

625
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,169
9 11

626
00:22:35,859 --> 00:22:38,119
she saw her mission
the same way

627
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,140
to protect America
from Donald Trump

628
00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:46,970
NARRATOR Now helping to lead
the January 6th committee

629
00:22:46,970 --> 00:22:48,099
Cheney was determined

630
00:22:48,099 --> 00:22:51,500
to lay out the
case against Donald Trump

631
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,759
Over multiple months Donald Trump

632
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:54,660
oversaw

633
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:55,930
and coordinated

634
00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:57,049
a sophisticated

635
00:22:57,049 --> 00:22:57,730
plan

636
00:22:57,730 --> 00:22:58,569
to overturn

637
00:22:58,569 --> 00:23:00,119
the esidential election

638
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,369
and prevent the transfer
of presidential power

639
00:23:03,369 --> 00:23:06,099
In the very first hearing
she kind of laid out

640
00:23:06,099 --> 00:23:08,569
the theory of the case
right the opening statement where

641
00:23:08,569 --> 00:23:11,029
she puts forth this
multi part plan

642
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:13,720
I think that will sound
very much like Jack Smith's

643
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,640
opening statement in the trial

644
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,139
in March

645
00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:18,940
It is a summary

646
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:21,140
of how all
of this fits

647
00:23:21,140 --> 00:23:24,170
togetr In our hearings you
will see evidence of each

648
00:23:24,170 --> 00:23:26,089
element of this plan

649
00:23:26,089 --> 00:23:26,930
Frankly

650
00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:27,759
we did win this election
crowd cheering We did win

651
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:29,289
this election

652
00:23:30,450 --> 00:23:32,289
Donald Trump and his advisors

653
00:23:32,289 --> 00:23:33,410
knew

654
00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:36,069
that he had in
fact lost the election

655
00:23:36,069 --> 00:23:37,349
but despite this

656
00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:40,000
you will see evidence
that President Trump

657
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,619
corruptly pressured state legislators

658
00:23:41,619 --> 00:23:43,059
and election officials

659
00:23:43,059 --> 00:23:45,529
to change election results telephone
dialing out picks up

660
00:23:45,529 --> 00:23:47,130
I only need 11

661
00:23:47,130 --> 00:23:48,400
000 votes Fellas

662
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,650
I need 11 000 votes
give me a break

663
00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:54,099
telephone hangs up

664
00:23:55,950 --> 00:23:58,549
What you saw
at that hearing

665
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:59,309
methodically

666
00:23:59,309 --> 00:24:01,379
laid out by Liz Cheney

667
00:24:01,529 --> 00:24:04,559
showed that it wasn't just
some sort of like random

668
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:06,890
off the cuff impulsive

669
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:09,220
actions on his part but
that there was in fact

670
00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:10,470
a strategy

671
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:11,619
and a pattern

672
00:24:11,619 --> 00:24:12,910
and a methology

673
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:13,599
to

674
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,399
what he was doing

675
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,049
President Trump's efforts to pressure
Vice President Pence to act

676
00:24:20,049 --> 00:24:20,970
illegally

677
00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:21,740
likely

678
00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:22,619
violated

679
00:24:22,619 --> 00:24:24,319
two federal criminal

680
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:25,619
statutes

681
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,950
Because if Mike Pence
does the right thing

682
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:30,759
we win the election

683
00:24:31,049 --> 00:24:32,579
If I could have been
a fly on the wall

684
00:24:32,579 --> 00:24:35,119
in the Department of
Justice during that

685
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,980
I certainly probably expect everybody
sat up and took notice

686
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:40,200
of what she
said after that

687
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,210
In our final hearings you
will hear how President Trump

688
00:24:43,210 --> 00:24:44,859
summoned a violent mob

689
00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:47,019
and directed them illegally

690
00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:47,829
to march

691
00:24:47,829 --> 00:24:50,049
on the United States Capitol

692
00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:52,920
We fight like hell and
if you don't fight like

693
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,069
hell you're not going to
have a country any more

694
00:24:55,069 --> 00:24:56,369
And

695
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,369
with

696
00:25:02,369 --> 00:25:02,970
that

697
00:25:02,970 --> 00:25:07,089
the committee stands adjourned
bangs gavel NARRATOR

698
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:09,809
The hearings

699
00:25:09,809 --> 00:25:11,539
got the public's attention

700
00:25:11,539 --> 00:25:14,069
The first primetime January 6th
hearing laying the foundation

701
00:25:14,069 --> 00:25:16,680
for a specific case against
Trump The House Committee went

702
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,002
into graphic detail on the
results of To put it

703
00:25:19,002 --> 00:25:20,430
crassly the January 6th

704
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,119
committee was a ratings hit
From NBC News January 6th

705
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,789
revelations

706
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:27,049
will blow the roof
off the House

707
00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:28,619
The very first one

708
00:25:28,619 --> 00:25:29,990
the primetime viewing

709
00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:31,170
was

710
00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:32,039
at 19 4 million

711
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:34,039
which was really really remarkable

712
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:34,890
Huge

713
00:25:34,890 --> 00:25:35,779
surprisingly

714
00:25:35,779 --> 00:25:38,059
huge numbers last night that's
on par with events like

715
00:25:38,059 --> 00:25:40,609
Sunday Night Football games
There were still multiple

716
00:25:40,609 --> 00:25:41,329
multip

717
00:25:41,329 --> 00:25:44,369
brand new revelations last night
that took us by surprise

718
00:25:44,369 --> 00:25:46,470
NARRATOR But for his supporters

719
00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:48,669
Trump had a different story

720
00:25:49,690 --> 00:25:51,690
dramatized The unselect committee
of political hacks

721
00:25:51,690 --> 00:25:54,680
refuses to play any of
the many positive witnesses and

722
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,690
statements

723
00:25:55,690 --> 00:25:57,419
It's a broadside

724
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,269
And it's not
just one broadside

725
00:25:59,269 --> 00:26:00,900
it is a continuous

726
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:01,609
series

727
00:26:01,609 --> 00:26:02,930
of broadsides dramatized

728
00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:06,160
Bill Barr was a weak
and frightened attorney general

729
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,880
who was always being played

730
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,059
and threatened by the Democrats

731
00:26:10,059 --> 00:26:11,660
It's just so relentless

732
00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:13,069
it's so constant

733
00:26:13,069 --> 00:26:14,809
it's so loud

734
00:26:14,809 --> 00:26:18,049
that in parts of MAGA
America that MAGA barrage

735
00:26:18,049 --> 00:26:20,380
drowns out anything else

736
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:21,309
dramatized Warmongering

737
00:26:21,309 --> 00:26:22,150
and despicable

738
00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:23,779
human being Liz Cheney

739
00:26:23,779 --> 00:26:25,710
who is hated by NARRATOR
And on the conservative

740
00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:26,750
airwaves

741
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:27,579
they ampfied

742
00:26:27,579 --> 00:26:29,059
Trump's message

743
00:26:29,059 --> 00:26:32,619
Every news network in this
country but this one

744
00:26:32,619 --> 00:26:33,259
faithfully

745
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:33,940
surrendered

746
00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:36,700
its entire prime time lineup

747
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,390
The effect was North Korean

748
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:40,569
every channel the same A

749
00:26:40,569 --> 00:26:42,230
full on Hollywood

750
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:43,589
multimedia extravaganza

751
00:26:44,259 --> 00:26:45,289
to prosecute

752
00:26:45,289 --> 00:26:49,269
Trump with this show trial
with this kangaroo court

753
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:51,309
I don't think really
by any large

754
00:26:51,309 --> 00:26:52,900
stretch can you characterize

755
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:54,559
it as bipartisan

756
00:26:55,019 --> 00:26:56,809
And this is I
guess a consequence

757
00:26:56,809 --> 00:26:59,710
of bigger issues about the
evenly divided country that we're

758
00:26:59,710 --> 00:27:00,579
in and

759
00:27:00,579 --> 00:27:01,859
extreme partisanship

760
00:27:01,859 --> 00:27:03,869
in the political process

761
00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:07,200
Can they show us one
damned sentence in the hundreds

762
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,569
of thousands of documents

763
00:27:08,569 --> 00:27:09,670
that they have collected

764
00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:10,329
the thousand

765
00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:10,960
witnesses

766
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,950
they've had

767
00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:13,069
anything

768
00:27:13,069 --> 00:27:13,880
anywhere

769
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,160
that links Donald
Trump to directing

770
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,859
or ordering an attack on
the Capitol building Where is

771
00:27:18,859 --> 00:27:19,970
it

772
00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:23,319
If you're talking to somebody
who's deep in MAGA America

773
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,470
they didn't pay attention to
the January 6th commission

774
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:27,519
They were told

775
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,519
not to pay attention to
it That whatever was going

776
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,190
to come out it was
going to be fake or

777
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:34,460
fake news And this is
the way a lot of

778
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:35,170
Americans

779
00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:37,880
live their lives It's not
just red Americans blue Americans

780
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,349
as well We we
live in bubbles

781
00:27:41,349 --> 00:27:43,869
And this is the way
millions upon millions of Americans

782
00:27:43,869 --> 00:27:45,169
live

783
00:27:50,299 --> 00:27:52,109
siren blaring NARRATOR

784
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,089
In the weeks that followed

785
00:27:56,089 --> 00:27:57,890
the committee laid
out the details

786
00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:59,470
of their case

787
00:27:59,829 --> 00:28:01,099
This morning

788
00:28:01,099 --> 00:28:03,990
we'll tell the story of
how Donald Trump lost an

789
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:05,200
election

790
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,069
and knew he
lost an election

791
00:28:07,069 --> 00:28:07,690
and

792
00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:09,839
as a result
of his loss

793
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:10,500
decided

794
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,000
to wage an attack

795
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,690
on our democracy

796
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:15,809
NARRATOR A central question

797
00:28:15,829 --> 00:28:17,440
what the president knew

798
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,329
and when he knew it

799
00:28:19,329 --> 00:28:22,049
For a long time people
who have pursued Donald Trump

800
00:28:22,049 --> 00:28:24,579
tripped up on the question
of whether they could prove

801
00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:26,440
that he knew what he
was doing was wrong or

802
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,900
that he knew what
he was saying

803
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,480
was a lie

804
00:28:29,569 --> 00:28:32,759
The January 6th committee
got past that by

805
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:33,460
demonstrating

806
00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:34,650
that he was told

807
00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:36,609
time and time again that
he did not win the

808
00:28:36,609 --> 00:28:37,909
election

809
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:39,369
not by Democrats

810
00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:40,619
not by the media

811
00:28:40,619 --> 00:28:42,549
but by his own people

812
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,450
I want to
start by showing

813
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:47,569
a video that tells the
story of what was going

814
00:28:47,569 --> 00:28:49,759
on in the
Trump White House

815
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:51,930
on election night in November

816
00:28:51,930 --> 00:28:52,869
of 2020

817
00:28:52,869 --> 00:28:53,809
on video

818
00:28:53,809 --> 00:28:56,359
The Fox News Decision
Desk is calling Arizona

819
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:57,980
for Joe Biden

820
00:28:57,980 --> 00:29:00,289
That is a big

821
00:29:00,289 --> 00:29:01,099
get

822
00:29:01,099 --> 00:29:02,670
for the Biden campaign

823
00:29:02,670 --> 00:29:05,250
Arizona is called do
you remember that I

824
00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:06,420
do

825
00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:08,190
What do you remember happening

826
00:29:08,329 --> 00:29:09,500
where you were

827
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:11,700
when Arizona was called

828
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:12,529
Um

829
00:29:12,529 --> 00:29:14,609
I uh there was

830
00:29:14,609 --> 00:29:15,410
surprise

831
00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:16,960
at the call

832
00:29:17,339 --> 00:29:18,279
After

833
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,500
Fox News called Arizona

834
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,579
for Biden there

835
00:29:22,579 --> 00:29:25,240
was discussion about whether
President Trump should

836
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,549
say something and
should declare victory

837
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:28,569
The consensus

838
00:29:28,569 --> 00:29:30,529
of almost all
of his advisors

839
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:31,390
was

840
00:29:31,390 --> 00:29:32,569
that he should not

841
00:29:32,569 --> 00:29:33,670
It was

842
00:29:33,670 --> 00:29:35,069
far too early

843
00:29:35,069 --> 00:29:37,470
to be making any
calls like that

844
00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:38,769
Um

845
00:29:39,259 --> 00:29:40,559
ballots

846
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:41,569
ballots

847
00:29:41,569 --> 00:29:43,180
were still being counted

848
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:45,349
Ballots were still going to
be counted for days

849
00:29:45,349 --> 00:29:46,649
and

850
00:29:46,809 --> 00:29:49,480
it was far too early
to be making any proclamation

851
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,640
like that The professionals

852
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,909
on his campaign staff

853
00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:56,170
are telling him you know

854
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:57,990
We can't claim victory

855
00:29:57,990 --> 00:30:00,250
either you know you lost
or we have to at

856
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:02,849
least wait and see
what's going to happen

857
00:30:02,849 --> 00:30:05,319
And Trump makes the choice

858
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,769
that he wants
to listen instead

859
00:30:07,769 --> 00:30:09,079
to Rudy Giuliani

860
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:10,720
Were you part
of any discussions

861
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,799
about whether the
president should make

862
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,289
any sort of speech

863
00:30:14,289 --> 00:30:16,000
on election night

864
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,140
I I mean I
spoke to the president

865
00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:20,579
They may have been present

866
00:30:20,579 --> 00:30:21,940
but the

867
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:23,019
president

868
00:30:23,019 --> 00:30:25,650
but I spoke to the
president several times that night

869
00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:26,640
NARRATOR

870
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,759
Rudy

871
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:29,460
Giuliani's advice was very different

872
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,619
than that of
Trump's political advisors

873
00:30:32,619 --> 00:30:34,329
His personal lawyer Giuliani

874
00:30:34,329 --> 00:30:35,490
tells Trump

875
00:30:35,490 --> 00:30:36,690
Keep fighting

876
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:38,109
We will have a legal

877
00:30:38,109 --> 00:30:39,109
crusade

878
00:30:39,109 --> 00:30:40,019
a political

879
00:30:40,019 --> 00:30:40,910
crusade

880
00:30:40,910 --> 00:30:43,409
to keep you in power

881
00:30:43,460 --> 00:30:45,849
Trump loves the idea

882
00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:49,750
Rudy Giuliani is one of
the most prominent figures in

883
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:53,789
American politics in the
last 25 years

884
00:30:53,789 --> 00:30:59,599
who is remembered fondly for
his leadership post 9 11

885
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:00,220
But

886
00:31:00,220 --> 00:31:02,390
over the years he drifted

887
00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:04,480
towards Donald Trump

888
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:05,819
Towards

889
00:31:05,819 --> 00:31:07,549
being someone that would

890
00:31:07,549 --> 00:31:11,039
be essentially a yes
man to Donald Trump

891
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,500
and some of
his worst impulses

892
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,480
NARRATOR And on election night

893
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,170
Giuliani

894
00:31:17,170 --> 00:31:18,009
insisted

895
00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:19,879
Trump should fight

896
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:21,390
The president ignores

897
00:31:21,390 --> 00:31:23,200
the sound advice
that he's getting

898
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,059
from Bill

899
00:31:24,059 --> 00:31:25,750
Stepien from the political professionals

900
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:27,130
around him

901
00:31:27,130 --> 00:31:28,089
and he's listening

902
00:31:28,089 --> 00:31:29,690
to one voice

903
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:32,039
that is telling
him something different

904
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,069
and that's Giuliani

905
00:31:33,069 --> 00:31:33,690
saying

906
00:31:33,690 --> 00:31:37,569
You should go out
there and declare victory

907
00:31:39,309 --> 00:31:40,200
And did anybody

908
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,859
disagree

909
00:31:40,859 --> 00:31:42,849
with your message

910
00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:43,910
Yes

911
00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:45,259
Who was that

912
00:31:45,259 --> 00:31:49,670
The president disagreed with that
Hehought I was wrong

913
00:31:49,670 --> 00:31:50,950
he told me so

914
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:51,690
and

915
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:52,680
you

916
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,710
know that they were going
to you know go in

917
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:56,970
a you know
he was gonna

918
00:31:56,970 --> 00:32:00,410
go in a
different direction cheers

919
00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:05,259
and applause I think the
most dangerous speech that Donald

920
00:32:05,259 --> 00:32:07,029
Trump ever gave

921
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:09,130
was not the one that
he gave on January 6

922
00:32:09,130 --> 00:32:10,505
I think it's the speech
that he gave at 2

923
00:32:10,505 --> 00:32:13,109
30 in the morning the
night of the election

924
00:32:13,109 --> 00:32:14,889
This is a fraud

925
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:16,799
on the American public

926
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:18,359
This is an embarrassment

927
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:19,990
to our country

928
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,910
We were getting ready
to win this election

929
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:24,769
Frankly

930
00:32:24,769 --> 00:32:27,749
we did win this election
cheers and applause We did

931
00:32:27,749 --> 00:32:29,299
win this election Trump

932
00:32:29,299 --> 00:32:31,910
knew that the
trends looked bad

933
00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:33,200
Trump knew

934
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,940
that there were hundreds
of thousands of votes

935
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:37,400
still to be counted

936
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,069
and

937
00:32:38,069 --> 00:32:40,880
he came out and
he said Frankly

938
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,910
we did win the election

939
00:32:42,910 --> 00:32:44,509
We want all

940
00:32:44,509 --> 00:32:46,349
voting to stop

941
00:32:46,349 --> 00:32:48,809
We don't want them to
find any ballots at 4

942
00:32:48,809 --> 00:32:50,109
00

943
00:32:50,140 --> 00:32:52,450
in the morning and add
them to the list

944
00:32:52,450 --> 00:32:53,680
Okay

945
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,589
cheers and applause NARRATOR

946
00:32:54,589 --> 00:32:56,019
In the years since

947
00:32:56,019 --> 00:32:58,509
Trump has claimed that he
believed what he said that

948
00:32:58,509 --> 00:32:59,609
night

949
00:32:59,609 --> 00:33:02,089
I saw what happened I
watched that election and I

950
00:33:02,089 --> 00:33:03,869
thought the election was
over at 10 00

951
00:33:03,869 --> 00:33:05,059
the evening NARRATOR

952
00:33:05,059 --> 00:33:06,940
But according to the committee

953
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:09,589
his claims of fraud were
part of a well established

954
00:33:09,589 --> 00:33:10,889
plan

955
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:12,180
The moment

956
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:13,779
when he said Frankly

957
00:33:13,779 --> 00:33:15,630
I won this election

958
00:33:15,630 --> 00:33:16,970
was telegraphed

959
00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:18,589
many many times

960
00:33:18,589 --> 00:33:19,460
and

961
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:22,009
throughout the campaign of 2020

962
00:33:22,009 --> 00:33:23,099
he repeatedly

963
00:33:23,099 --> 00:33:24,990
cast doubt on the legitimacy

964
00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:26,029
of the outcome

965
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:28,450
cast doubt on absentee ballots

966
00:33:28,450 --> 00:33:29,940
et cetera

967
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:34,680
As early as April 2020

968
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,299
Mr Trump claimed

969
00:33:36,299 --> 00:33:39,259
that the only way he
could lose an election

970
00:33:39,259 --> 00:33:42,279
would be as a result
of fraud on video The

971
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:43,549
only way

972
00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:45,279
we're gonna lose this election

973
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,599
is if the election is
rigged Remember that it's the

974
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:50,420
only way we're going
to lose this election

975
00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:52,740
This is going to be
a fraud like you've never

976
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:54,559
seen Did you see what's
going on Take a look

977
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,220
at West Virginia mailmen
selling the ballots

978
00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:58,329
they're being sold

979
00:33:58,329 --> 00:34:00,039
they're being dumped in rivers

980
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,890
This is a horrible thing
for our country There is

981
00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:04,809
no there is no

982
00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:06,789
evidence of that This is
not going to end well

983
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:10,050
NARRATOR For the January 6th
committee it was crucial evidence

984
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:11,970
of Trump's intent

985
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:14,610
He makes numerous speeches

986
00:34:14,610 --> 00:34:15,829
and and TV

987
00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:18,920
comments in TV interviews You're
going to see corruption

988
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,739
like you've never seen you're
going to see a rigged

989
00:34:20,739 --> 00:34:21,570
election

990
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:24,869
It'll be the greatest rigged
election in history it'll be

991
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:27,230
the greatest fraud ever perpetrated

992
00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:28,989
It's all a big fraud

993
00:34:28,989 --> 00:34:31,889
It's a crooked deal it's
a rigged deal new ballots

994
00:34:31,889 --> 00:34:33,940
are coming out that are
thrown in garbage cans with

995
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:36,650
the name Trump on it
This was part of the

996
00:34:36,650 --> 00:34:37,730
scheme

997
00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:38,610
of

998
00:34:38,610 --> 00:34:40,030
getting his supporters

999
00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:40,900
sensitized

1000
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:43,059
to the fact that There's
going to be some fraud

1001
00:34:43,059 --> 00:34:43,769
here

1002
00:34:43,769 --> 00:34:46,090
Because the only way
they're going to win

1003
00:34:46,090 --> 00:34:47,599
is by a rigged election

1004
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,130
I really believe that

1005
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:51,590
This is a pattern for
Trump He has done this

1006
00:34:51,590 --> 00:34:52,230
every

1007
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:55,079
step of the way through
his career long before potics

1008
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,630
My name's Donald Trump and
I'm the largest real estate

1009
00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:59,800
developer in New York
When The Apprentice

1010
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,260
lost an Emmy to
The Amazing Race

1011
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:04,679
he claimed that the
Emmy contest was rigged

1012
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,539
dramatized Amazing Race winning an
Emmy again is a total

1013
00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:10,699
joke The Emmys have no
credibility Twitter chime The Emmys

1014
00:35:10,699 --> 00:35:11,849
are all politics

1015
00:35:11,849 --> 00:35:14,369
that's why The
Apprentice never won

1016
00:35:14,369 --> 00:35:16,429
Twitter chime The
public is smart

1017
00:35:16,429 --> 00:35:19,260
They know it's
a con game

1018
00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:22,280
I have just called
President Obama to congratulate

1019
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,809
him on his victory

1020
00:35:23,809 --> 00:35:26,750
He claimed that the election
was rigged in 2012

1021
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,206
when Mitt Romney whom he
had endorsed lost to Barack

1022
00:35:29,206 --> 00:35:32,039
Obama dramatized This election is
a total sham and a

1023
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:32,880
travesty

1024
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,460
We are not a democracy
Twitter chime More reports of

1025
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:38,869
voting machines switching Romney votes
to Obama Twitter chime Let's

1026
00:35:38,869 --> 00:35:41,590
fight like hell and stop
this great and disgusting

1027
00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:42,869
injustice

1028
00:35:42,869 --> 00:35:45,090
Twitter chime We can't let
this happen We should march

1029
00:35:45,090 --> 00:35:46,409
on Washington

1030
00:35:46,409 --> 00:35:48,570
Twitter chime Every step along
the way anything he has

1031
00:35:48,570 --> 00:35:49,530
ever lost

1032
00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:52,000
is because somebody
else has cheated

1033
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,989
and stolen it from him
Fox News can now project

1034
00:35:54,989 --> 00:35:59,119
that Texas senator Ted Cruz
has won Iowa Ted Cruz

1035
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:00,429
wins the Republican

1036
00:36:00,429 --> 00:36:01,139
contest

1037
00:36:01,139 --> 00:36:02,539
here in Iowa

1038
00:36:02,539 --> 00:36:03,949
The big question now

1039
00:36:03,949 --> 00:36:06,329
how is Donald Trump going
to handle a loss

1040
00:36:06,329 --> 00:36:08,550
dramatized The State of
Iowa should disqualify

1041
00:36:08,550 --> 00:36:11,539
Ted Cruz from the most
recent election on the basis

1042
00:36:11,539 --> 00:36:12,559
that he cheated

1043
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,159
a total fraud

1044
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:15,719
Twitter chime You have twted

1045
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,409
that Senator Ted Cruz stole
the Iowa election Everything about

1046
00:36:19,409 --> 00:36:20,840
it was disgraceful

1047
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,309
It was a fraud as
far as I was concerned

1048
00:36:23,309 --> 00:36:25,130
Knowing what we know now

1049
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:26,579
I think you
would go back

1050
00:36:26,579 --> 00:36:28,119
to February 1

1051
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,580
of 2016

1052
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:32,699
It's a total voter fraud
when you think of it

1053
00:36:32,699 --> 00:36:33,539
and actually

1054
00:36:33,539 --> 00:36:36,469
I came in probably first
if you think about it

1055
00:36:36,469 --> 00:36:38,110
That episode

1056
00:36:38,349 --> 00:36:39,300
was a

1057
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,519
bright red blinking light foreshadowing

1058
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:44,570
everything that was to come

1059
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,599
The portrait that both prosecutors

1060
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:50,369
and the January 6th committee
are trying to paint

1061
00:36:50,369 --> 00:36:53,690
is that Trump knows
what's going on

1062
00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:56,000
That this wasn't something spontaneous

1063
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,659
This wasn't something that
the president truly believed

1064
00:36:58,659 --> 00:37:00,590
That it was all
part of an overall

1065
00:37:00,590 --> 00:37:01,500
and illegal

1066
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:03,949
according to prosecutors and
the committee strategy

1067
00:37:03,949 --> 00:37:06,390
to remain in power unlawfully

1068
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:07,510
NARRATOR

1069
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:09,070
And in court filings

1070
00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:09,750
prosecutors

1071
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:13,489
have said Trump's statements are
evidence of the criminal conspiracy

1072
00:37:13,489 --> 00:37:15,369
at the heart
of the case

1073
00:37:15,369 --> 00:37:16,869
They demonstrate the defendant's

1074
00:37:16,869 --> 00:37:20,510
common plan of falsely blaming
fraud for election results he

1075
00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:21,619
does not like

1076
00:37:21,619 --> 00:37:23,590
as well as
his motive intent

1077
00:37:23,590 --> 00:37:25,769
and plan to
obstruct the certification

1078
00:37:25,769 --> 00:37:26,630
of the 2020

1079
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:28,599
election results and illegitimately

1080
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:30,320
retain power

1081
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:31,449
Intent

1082
00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:32,940
the whole ball game

1083
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:35,050
The jury is
making an evaluation

1084
00:37:35,050 --> 00:37:36,159
of that

1085
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:40,500
Um that's the most difficult
thing to prove Not impossible

1086
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,099
but it is the most
difficult thing to prove NARRATOR

1087
00:37:44,099 --> 00:37:45,909
Robert Ray was an independent

1088
00:37:45,909 --> 00:37:47,349
counsel who investigated

1089
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:49,369
President Bill Clinton

1090
00:37:49,369 --> 00:37:52,429
and helped get Trump acquitted
in his first senate impeachment

1091
00:37:52,429 --> 00:37:53,730
trial

1092
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:57,139
Our system requires that
a jury of 12

1093
00:37:57,139 --> 00:37:58,440
unanimously

1094
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,400
meaning all of them all
12 of them find the

1095
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,050
defendant guilty beyond
a reasonable doubt

1096
00:38:04,050 --> 00:38:05,440
gavel bangs NARRATOR

1097
00:38:05,710 --> 00:38:08,239
To try to show
the president's intent

1098
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,639
the committee focused on
his own statements

1099
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:12,720
after election night

1100
00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:15,880
Although he publicly claimed that
he had won the election

1101
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,679
privately

1102
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,110
he admitted that Joe Biden
would take over as president

1103
00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:23,130
I remember maybe a week
after the election was

1104
00:38:23,130 --> 00:38:26,179
called I popped into the
Oval just to like

1105
00:38:26,179 --> 00:38:28,050
give the president the headlines
and see how he was

1106
00:38:28,050 --> 00:38:28,739
doing

1107
00:38:28,739 --> 00:38:30,179
and he was looking at
the TV and he said

1108
00:38:30,179 --> 00:38:32,920
Can you believe I lost
to this effing guy

1109
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,210
At the same time that
President Trump was acknowledging

1110
00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:35,849
privately

1111
00:38:35,849 --> 00:38:37,139
that he had
lost the election

1112
00:38:37,139 --> 00:38:37,760
he

1113
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,099
was hearing that there was
no evidence of fraud or

1114
00:38:40,099 --> 00:38:41,269
irregularities

1115
00:38:41,269 --> 00:38:43,600
sufficient to change the outcome

1116
00:38:43,909 --> 00:38:44,619
His

1117
00:38:44,619 --> 00:38:45,570
campaign

1118
00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:46,329
team

1119
00:38:46,329 --> 00:38:47,730
and this included

1120
00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:49,539
his son in
law Jared Kushner

1121
00:38:49,539 --> 00:38:50,610
went to him

1122
00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:52,970
after the election was declared

1123
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:55,199
And they didn't just rebut

1124
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,849
the claims of voter fraud

1125
00:38:57,849 --> 00:38:58,960
They explained

1126
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,610
to him their analysis
of why he lost

1127
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:04,019
They showed him the numbers

1128
00:39:04,019 --> 00:39:07,880
state by state in
the swing states

1129
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,210
I made this case I
know Hope Hicks and others

1130
00:39:10,210 --> 00:39:11,739
did to him which was

1131
00:39:11,739 --> 00:39:14,269
You should kind of make
this a victory lap Go

1132
00:39:14,269 --> 00:39:16,730
around the country talk
about what have accomplished

1133
00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:18,170
and you're going to be
in a great place in

1134
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:19,070
2024

1135
00:39:19,070 --> 00:39:21,380
to win the presidency back

1136
00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:25,280
But then you
had Rudy Giuliani

1137
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,289
who was whispering in his
ear what Trump wanted to

1138
00:39:27,289 --> 00:39:28,590
hear

1139
00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:31,519
Trump likes the people who
tell him what he wants

1140
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:32,930
to hear

1141
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,510
And he picked in
effect Rudy Giuliani

1142
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:36,650
in order to go

1143
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,389
down the road of challenging

1144
00:39:38,389 --> 00:39:39,760
the election

1145
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,300
There is strong evidence

1146
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:44,239
that this was an election
that in at least

1147
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,699
three or four states
and possibly ten

1148
00:39:46,699 --> 00:39:48,380
they they it was stolen

1149
00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:50,390
Bringing in 100

1150
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,750
000 ballots

1151
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:53,159
in garbage cans

1152
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:55,769
and every single one of
them was for Biden

1153
00:39:55,769 --> 00:39:57,360
NARRATOR The federal indictment

1154
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,800
alleges that by the
middle of November

1155
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Trump's conspiracy

1156
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,320
to overturn the
election was underway

1157
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,409
November 14 2020 is
an important date

1158
00:40:07,409 --> 00:40:09,260
in the federal indictment

1159
00:40:09,260 --> 00:40:11,360
of Donald Trump

1160
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,989
It is the moment
when Donald Trump said

1161
00:40:14,989 --> 00:40:16,034
Rudy Giuliani

1162
00:40:16,034 --> 00:40:16,679
he's

1163
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,519
the only one who's providing
me with a plausible path

1164
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:20,289
forward

1165
00:40:20,289 --> 00:40:22,570
and I'm going
to take it

1166
00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:24,730
Look you can fight it
all you want The reality

1167
00:40:24,730 --> 00:40:26,530
is dead people voted

1168
00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:28,650
Over 300 000

1169
00:40:28,650 --> 00:40:29,820
ballots were

1170
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:31,870
counted in secret

1171
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:33,230
Rudy Giuliani

1172
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:34,139
was central

1173
00:40:34,139 --> 00:40:37,449
to a lot
of these schemes

1174
00:40:37,449 --> 00:40:38,920
framing them orchestrating

1175
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,469
them directing other people being
in on the communications

1176
00:40:42,469 --> 00:40:44,219
And so once Trump

1177
00:40:44,219 --> 00:40:45,920
made a decision

1178
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,920
to defer to Rudy Giuliani

1179
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,940
as the person who was
setting the tone and giving

1180
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:52,530
people their talking points

1181
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:54,820
for what the approach was
that's when he decided

1182
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:56,530
to go after
these nutty theories

1183
00:40:56,530 --> 00:40:57,400
8

1184
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,700
021

1185
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,139
ballots from dead people

1186
00:41:01,139 --> 00:41:03,170
mail in ballots
for dead people

1187
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:05,659
We're checking the records
of the cemeteries

1188
00:41:05,659 --> 00:41:07,090
around Philadelphia

1189
00:41:07,090 --> 00:41:08,539
audience laughter NARRATOR

1190
00:41:08,969 --> 00:41:10,400
During that period

1191
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,059
Giuliani and Trump would repeat
dozens of false allegations

1192
00:41:15,059 --> 00:41:16,309
and the committee believed

1193
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:20,550
they had evidence it
wasn't an honest mistake

1194
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:22,179
One of the things the
committee did that was critical

1195
00:41:22,179 --> 00:41:24,760
was putting together this timeline
in which they showed

1196
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,070
very clearly

1197
00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:28,710
the president would be told
one thing one day

1198
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:29,920
not true

1199
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,309
don't say that And he
would go right back out

1200
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:35,300
and say it the
next day anyway

1201
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,210
That's really important toward
I think establishing

1202
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:41,579
intent to lie
intent to defraud

1203
00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:43,460
Each ballot went three times

1204
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:44,989
here's ballot number one

1205
00:41:44,989 --> 00:41:48,869
here it is a second
time third time next ballot

1206
00:41:48,869 --> 00:41:51,619
I told the president
myself that these allegations

1207
00:41:51,619 --> 00:41:54,530
about ballots run through
the machine several times

1208
00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:56,119
it was not true

1209
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:59,670
In several counties in Georgia
there's clear evidence that tens

1210
00:41:59,670 --> 00:42:02,019
of thousands of
votes were switched

1211
00:42:02,019 --> 00:42:03,030
from President

1212
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:05,880
Trump to Biden Well Mr
President we did a hand

1213
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,536
re tally of all the
ballots and compared that to

1214
00:42:08,536 --> 00:42:10,530
what the machine said and
it came up with virtually

1215
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:11,789
the same result

1216
00:42:11,789 --> 00:42:13,110
In Detroit

1217
00:42:13,110 --> 00:42:15,929
a vote dump
came in unexpectedly

1218
00:42:15,929 --> 00:42:17,489
I'll tell you what's wrong

1219
00:42:17,489 --> 00:42:19,059
voter fraud

1220
00:42:19,059 --> 00:42:19,769
And then

1221
00:42:19,769 --> 00:42:23,199
he raised the big
vote dump in Detroit

1222
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:24,559
and I said
There's no indication

1223
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:26,840
of fraud in Detroit

1224
00:42:26,969 --> 00:42:28,050
Over 10

1225
00:42:28,050 --> 00:42:31,059
300 ballots in Georgia
were cast by individuals

1226
00:42:31,059 --> 00:42:33,869
who died prior
to the election

1227
00:42:33,869 --> 00:42:34,949
The actual number

1228
00:42:34,949 --> 00:42:36,239
were two

1229
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,880
two people that were
dead that voted

1230
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,809
You have Dominion

1231
00:42:39,809 --> 00:42:42,050
which those machines are
fixed they're rigged

1232
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:45,239
You can press Trump and
the vote goes to Biden

1233
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,320
I specifically

1234
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,460
raised the Dominion voting machines

1235
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:52,079
I saw absolutely zero
basis for the allegations

1236
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,320
I told him that
it was crazy stuff

1237
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,539
Stretching the truth in a
campaign ad or on the

1238
00:42:58,539 --> 00:42:59,550
debate stage

1239
00:42:59,550 --> 00:43:00,849
is

1240
00:43:00,849 --> 00:43:02,699
But when you are
using that lie

1241
00:43:02,699 --> 00:43:04,829
to subvert the democratic process

1242
00:43:04,829 --> 00:43:06,300
and to convince people

1243
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,829
that they need to
overturn the election

1244
00:43:08,829 --> 00:43:11,340
now you're talking about conspiracy

1245
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:12,800
And

1246
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,970
that's what he's charged with

1247
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,539
NARRATOR

1248
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:19,380
Trump wouldn't talk
to the committee

1249
00:43:19,380 --> 00:43:21,820
but he did talk
to NBC News

1250
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:24,539
The most senior lawyers
in your own administration

1251
00:43:24,539 --> 00:43:27,570
and on your campaign told
you that after you lost

1252
00:43:27,570 --> 00:43:29,260
more than 60 legal challenges

1253
00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:30,440
that it was over

1254
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,869
Why did you ignore them
and decide to listen to

1255
00:43:32,869 --> 00:43:35,110
a new outside group of
attorneys Because I didn't respect

1256
00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:36,410
them

1257
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:38,369
As lawyers You'd hired them
Sure But that doesn't mean

1258
00:43:38,369 --> 00:43:40,340
you know you hire them
you never met these people

1259
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:41,489
you get a recommendation

1260
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:43,309
They turn out to be
RINOs or they turn out

1261
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:44,690
to be not so good

1262
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:47,239
In many cases I didn't
respect them But I did

1263
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,829
respect others I
respected many others

1264
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:52,079
that said the election
was rigged Were

1265
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,900
you calling the shots
though Mr President ultimately

1266
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:57,190
As to whether or not
I believed it was rigged

1267
00:43:57,190 --> 00:44:00,239
Oh sure Okay It
was my decision

1268
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,880
NARRATOR One of the allegations

1269
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,480
in the charges against Trump

1270
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,989
is that he used lies

1271
00:44:04,989 --> 00:44:07,510
to carry out
his criminal conspiracy

1272
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:08,309
The Defendant's

1273
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:09,719
knowingly false statements

1274
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,230
were integral to
his criminal plans

1275
00:44:13,230 --> 00:44:15,480
NARRATOR But to
the president's defenders

1276
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,820
his statements about
the 2020 election

1277
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:18,840
true or not

1278
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,739
should be protected

1279
00:44:19,739 --> 00:44:21,300
under the constitution

1280
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:25,960
You will see Trump and
those who defend him essentially

1281
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,489
using the free speech

1282
00:44:27,489 --> 00:44:29,929
defense and saying that
these are just words

1283
00:44:29,929 --> 00:44:32,670
and in the end it's
not a crime in America

1284
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,980
to lie to the American
public even though Donald Trump

1285
00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,239
lied to the American
public a lot

1286
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,369
This is a central

1287
00:44:39,369 --> 00:44:41,960
area of the president's defense

1288
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,480
He does have
First Amendment rights

1289
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,610
and particularly

1290
00:44:45,610 --> 00:44:47,130
as president

1291
00:44:47,130 --> 00:44:51,010
And trying to turn
words into criminal conduct

1292
00:44:51,010 --> 00:44:53,239
is a very slippery road

1293
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,280
for the prosecution

1294
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,170
under the First Amendment

1295
00:44:56,429 --> 00:44:58,960
And in the event of
a conviction I can guarantee

1296
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,400
you this this will
be point one

1297
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,389
in the brief

1298
00:45:02,389 --> 00:45:03,860
on appeal

1299
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,150
Lying to the government

1300
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:07,179
is not

1301
00:45:07,179 --> 00:45:10,269
protected by the First
Amendment Obstructing justice

1302
00:45:10,269 --> 00:45:12,539
is not protected by
the First Amendment

1303
00:45:12,539 --> 00:45:15,710
NARRATOR Ken White is a
prominent criminal defense lawyer

1304
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:18,130
and a First Amendment expert

1305
00:45:18,179 --> 00:45:20,940
And so here the government's
position is going to be

1306
00:45:20,940 --> 00:45:23,699
We are not going
after him for

1307
00:45:23,699 --> 00:45:24,900
u know

1308
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:27,219
what he said
on the news

1309
00:45:27,219 --> 00:45:29,960
that's not the crime The
crime is he's specifically

1310
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,730
pushed

1311
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:32,769
to derail specific

1312
00:45:32,769 --> 00:45:34,630
government functions

1313
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:45,730
NARRATOR As they gathered their

1314
00:45:45,730 --> 00:45:47,369
evidence the January

1315
00:45:47,369 --> 00:45:50,670
6th committee returned again
and again to onetate

1316
00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:51,970
Georgia

1317
00:45:52,030 --> 00:45:54,190
When Donald Trump
tried to overturn

1318
00:45:54,190 --> 00:45:55,760
the election results

1319
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,699
he focused

1320
00:45:56,699 --> 00:45:58,690
on just a few states

1321
00:45:58,690 --> 00:46:01,119
The former president
had a particular

1322
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:01,940
obsession

1323
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:03,460
with Georgia

1324
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,039
I think that
Trump chose us

1325
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:06,800
because

1326
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,539
Republicans

1327
00:46:07,539 --> 00:46:08,570
did control

1328
00:46:08,570 --> 00:46:09,400
basically

1329
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,360
every

1330
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,829
level of government

1331
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:14,539
You got the House you
got the Senate all Republican

1332
00:46:14,539 --> 00:46:16,510
controlled not even close

1333
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:19,050
I think he thought
he could come here

1334
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:20,110
and basically

1335
00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:23,079
just by some kind of
fiat say Okay make it

1336
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:24,199
happen

1337
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,800
NARRATOR And it was in
Georgia that Donald Trump received

1338
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,199
a stark warning
from Gabriel Sterling

1339
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,039
an election official

1340
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:32,239
Gabriel Sterling

1341
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,110
explicitly

1342
00:46:33,110 --> 00:46:36,119
warned President Trump
about potential violence

1343
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:38,260
on December 1 2020

1344
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:41,190
more than a
month before January

1345
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:43,300
6 You will see
excerpts from that video

1346
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:43,949
repeatedly

1347
00:46:43,949 --> 00:46:45,250
today

1348
00:46:45,489 --> 00:46:47,080
Mr President

1349
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:50,909
it looks like you likely
lost the state of Georgia

1350
00:46:50,909 --> 00:46:53,989
Stop inspiring people to commit
potential acts of violen Someone's

1351
00:46:53,989 --> 00:46:54,989
going to get hurt

1352
00:46:54,989 --> 00:46:56,449
someone's going to get shot

1353
00:46:56,449 --> 00:46:58,440
someone's going to get killed

1354
00:46:59,019 --> 00:47:00,740
and it's not right

1355
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,050
Gabe Sterling called
out Donald Trump

1356
00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:06,460
He was the first to
really as far as I

1357
00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:09,300
remember to really come out
and say There's going like

1358
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:11,079
this is going to
lead to violence

1359
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:12,150
We're investigating

1360
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:13,260
there's always a possibility

1361
00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:15,800
I get it You have
Gabe Sterling is not listed

1362
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,269
as some kind of Republican

1363
00:47:17,269 --> 00:47:19,889
in name only or some
kind of liberal Republican

1364
00:47:19,889 --> 00:47:21,810
prior to that moment

1365
00:47:22,579 --> 00:47:24,820
I've been a Republican since
I was about nine

1366
00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:27,630
when Reagan was
running for reelection

1367
00:47:27,630 --> 00:47:28,920
I was nine years old
when I first kind of

1368
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,960
declared myself My mother
was not very happy

1369
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,970
But my dad was pleased

1370
00:47:35,380 --> 00:47:36,719
I was working campaigns

1371
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,159
in the late
'80s and early

1372
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:40,239
'90s

1373
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,980
So yeah I've been in
Republican politics as an operative

1374
00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:44,620
and a volunteer

1375
00:47:44,889 --> 00:47:46,909
since before I could
drive a car

1376
00:47:46,909 --> 00:47:50,690
So yeah I've been at
it for a while

1377
00:47:51,170 --> 00:47:52,489
The chair recognizes

1378
00:47:52,489 --> 00:47:54,469
the gentleman from California

1379
00:47:54,469 --> 00:47:57,519
Mr Schiff for
an opening statement

1380
00:47:57,519 --> 00:47:58,409
Mr Sterling

1381
00:47:58,409 --> 00:48:00,800
thank you also for
being here today

1382
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,100
Schiff

1383
00:48:02,969 --> 00:48:04,130
I remember they told me
he was going to question

1384
00:48:04,130 --> 00:48:06,190
me I'm like Damn it

1385
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,460
I can't stand that guy

1386
00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:09,760
laughs

1387
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,289
He irritates me to death

1388
00:48:11,289 --> 00:48:12,889
because I think he's wrong
and doesn't tell the truth

1389
00:48:12,889 --> 00:48:14,220
a lot

1390
00:48:14,590 --> 00:48:15,530
But I said you know
what I'm just going to

1391
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:17,809
play this straight I'm a
fact witness just answer the

1392
00:48:17,809 --> 00:48:19,110
questions

1393
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:21,300
Donald Trump claims
that there was

1394
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:23,900
massive voter fraud in Georgia

1395
00:48:24,340 --> 00:48:27,659
Mr Sterling that was just
plain false wasn't it

1396
00:48:27,659 --> 00:48:29,160
Yes sir

1397
00:48:29,619 --> 00:48:31,969
interview I want to give
some perspective for this

1398
00:48:31,969 --> 00:48:34,059
I was a
voting systems implementation

1399
00:48:34,059 --> 00:48:34,989
manager

1400
00:48:34,989 --> 00:48:36,570
I was a

1401
00:48:36,570 --> 00:48:37,309
bureaucrat

1402
00:48:37,309 --> 00:48:40,050
of all bureaucrats basically at
that time No one should

1403
00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:42,659
know who the
hell I am

1404
00:48:42,659 --> 00:48:44,869
I just was
doing my job

1405
00:48:44,869 --> 00:48:46,769
NARRATOR Sterling was
on the frontline

1406
00:48:46,769 --> 00:48:49,630
as Trump attacked the
Georgia election results

1407
00:48:49,630 --> 00:48:53,320
dramatized Thousands of uncounted votes
discovered in Georgia counties Twitter

1408
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,389
chime Big voter fraud information

1409
00:48:55,389 --> 00:48:57,170
coming out concerning Georgia

1410
00:48:57,170 --> 00:48:58,710
Twitter chime Georgia Republicans

1411
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:59,519
are angry

1412
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:00,489
all Republicans

1413
00:49:00,489 --> 00:49:01,380
are angry

1414
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:03,370
Get it done Twitt

1415
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:05,599
chime The people in
Georgia are mad

1416
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,380
They know their
votes were stolen

1417
00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:09,900
Georgia of the six states
I looked at is a

1418
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:11,059
cesspool

1419
00:49:11,059 --> 00:49:13,309
Georgia's probably going to be
the first state I'm going

1420
00:49:13,309 --> 00:49:15,059
to blow up
and the secretary

1421
00:49:15,059 --> 00:49:18,409
of state need to go
with it Everyone must go

1422
00:49:18,409 --> 00:49:21,219
to the capitol of Georgia
now We need to see

1423
00:49:21,219 --> 00:49:23,449
people power and this
will do it

1424
00:49:23,449 --> 00:49:24,750
chanting

1425
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,869
We want Trump NARRATOR
On the ground

1426
00:49:28,869 --> 00:49:30,820
tensions were mounting

1427
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,030
I mean you have
a whole voting population

1428
00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:37,309
out there

1429
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:38,480
who still today

1430
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,139
believes

1431
00:49:39,139 --> 00:49:41,620
that this election was stolen

1432
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,580
chanting

1433
00:49:45,489 --> 00:49:46,179
America

1434
00:49:46,179 --> 00:49:47,550
First And I

1435
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:49,800
they think that

1436
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,090
you know some fraud happed

1437
00:49:52,429 --> 00:49:55,059
And that's how you end
up in situations where they're

1438
00:49:55,059 --> 00:49:55,889
threatening

1439
00:49:55,889 --> 00:49:58,460
the election officials
in Georgia chime

1440
00:49:58,460 --> 00:50:01,179
Keep opposing the audit and
somebody in your family is

1441
00:50:01,179 --> 00:50:02,619
going to have
a very unfortunate

1442
00:50:02,619 --> 00:50:03,920
incident

1443
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:05,170
Please pray

1444
00:50:05,170 --> 00:50:07,090
We plan for the death
of you and your family

1445
00:50:07,090 --> 00:50:08,150
every day

1446
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:09,660
I'm sorry

1447
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,190
You and your family will
be killed very slowly

1448
00:50:14,190 --> 00:50:17,059
It wasn't fun I can
tell you that Um

1449
00:50:17,059 --> 00:50:20,630
We were in
the mix of

1450
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:21,930
a

1451
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:23,309
radicalized

1452
00:50:23,309 --> 00:50:24,610
lie

1453
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,260
essentially

1454
00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:29,269
And

1455
00:50:29,269 --> 00:50:31,130
it just kept on escalating

1456
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:33,050
chime Y'all oughta blow your

1457
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:35,039
bleep brains out you
piece of bleep

1458
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:39,760
NARRATOR The threats poured into
the voicemails of election officials

1459
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,659
chime Hope you're happy with
the way bleep going

1460
00:50:41,659 --> 00:50:43,907
'cause you know who's fault
this is when the bleep

1461
00:50:43,907 --> 00:50:46,639
bleep hits the goddamn fan
'cause you know it's coming

1462
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:50,329
We're coming after you
and every mother bleep

1463
00:50:50,329 --> 00:50:52,769
with our Second Amendment Bleep

1464
00:50:52,769 --> 00:50:55,130
enemy communist bleep sucker

1465
00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:57,420
you will be served

1466
00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:58,720
lead

1467
00:51:02,590 --> 00:51:03,900
It's all

1468
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:04,980
gone

1469
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:06,050
too

1470
00:51:06,050 --> 00:51:07,350
far

1471
00:51:09,309 --> 00:51:11,080
All of it

1472
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:14,530
It has to stop interview

1473
00:51:14,989 --> 00:51:16,449
I had no script

1474
00:51:16,449 --> 00:51:17,976
In fact I didn't realize
I was going to call

1475
00:51:17,976 --> 00:51:19,880
out the president until I
was literally saying the words

1476
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,630
out loud at the time

1477
00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:23,200
Mr President

1478
00:51:23,619 --> 00:51:27,010
you have not condemned these
actions or this language

1479
00:51:27,010 --> 00:51:27,690
This

1480
00:51:27,690 --> 00:51:29,280
has to stop

1481
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,349
We need you
to step up

1482
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:33,150
and if you're going to
take a position of leadership

1483
00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:34,960
show some

1484
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:42,250
After you made this
plea to the president

1485
00:51:42,250 --> 00:51:45,239
did Donald Trump urge his
supporters to avoid the use

1486
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,349
of violence

1487
00:51:46,349 --> 00:51:48,100
Not to my knowledge

1488
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,400
Now as we know the
president was are of your

1489
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,099
speech because he tweeted about
it later that day

1490
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,500
Twitter chime The president retweeted

1491
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:58,449
a criticism

1492
00:51:58,449 --> 00:51:59,250
of Gabriel

1493
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,789
Sterling's press conference

1494
00:52:01,179 --> 00:52:02,550
So the president was aware

1495
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:04,690
that there were threats of
violence and he persisted

1496
00:52:04,690 --> 00:52:06,490
in the Big Lie

1497
00:52:06,869 --> 00:52:10,480
You have Gabriel Sterling
saying People will die

1498
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,050
This was the warning

1499
00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:12,730
and

1500
00:52:12,730 --> 00:52:15,460
Donald Trump was unmoved by

1501
00:52:15,989 --> 00:52:17,989
it Was there any sort
of a sense that maybe

1502
00:52:17,989 --> 00:52:19,929
we ought to dial down
the rhetoric that maybe this

1503
00:52:19,929 --> 00:52:24,369
is getting out of hand
maybe this is dangerous No

1504
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:25,440
Gabriel

1505
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,460
Sterling's warning that someone could
get killed I think that

1506
00:52:27,460 --> 00:52:29,219
still remains true today

1507
00:52:29,219 --> 00:52:30,280
Because

1508
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,559
you still have
the president targeting

1509
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:33,380
judges

1510
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:34,130
and

1511
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:35,429
law clerks

1512
00:52:35,429 --> 00:52:36,769
and witnesses

1513
00:52:36,769 --> 00:52:38,159
And I think it is

1514
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:38,889
remarkable

1515
00:52:38,889 --> 00:52:41,880
that no one has been
physically hurt But I think

1516
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,730
time will tell
whether something does

1517
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:57,832
happen sirens wailing horns honking
The committee plans to reveal

1518
00:52:57,832 --> 00:53:00,780
even more evidence former President
Trump pressured state officials to

1519
00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:01,420
overturn

1520
00:53:01,420 --> 00:53:04,829
the results of the 2020
election NARRATOR Rusty Bowers

1521
00:53:04,829 --> 00:53:06,760
the Speaker of
the Arizona House

1522
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,449
and lifelong Republican

1523
00:53:08,449 --> 00:53:11,579
was a crucial witness to
Trump's campaign of pressure on

1524
00:53:11,579 --> 00:53:12,909
local officials

1525
00:53:12,909 --> 00:53:16,429
Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers
testifying today he received numerous

1526
00:53:16,429 --> 00:53:18,610
calls asking him to decertify

1527
00:53:18,610 --> 00:53:20,210
the Arizona electors

1528
00:53:20,210 --> 00:53:21,389
NARRATOR Bowers would testify

1529
00:53:21,389 --> 00:53:23,070
about his private conversations

1530
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:24,580
with the president

1531
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:28,500
Going in the room we
walked down through the hall

1532
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:29,380
and there's

1533
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:31,550
lots of people
in the hallways

1534
00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:33,300
and then guards

1535
00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:35,920
and then there's a doorway
and you know I'm thinking

1536
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,590
Okay

1537
00:53:36,590 --> 00:53:38,519
how big is this room

1538
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:41,389
And then I walk in
the room and I'm thinking

1539
00:53:41,389 --> 00:53:42,320
Oh

1540
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,060
my word

1541
00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:50,219
cameras clicking This is
one big room laughs

1542
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,690
I'm like

1543
00:53:55,690 --> 00:53:56,990
Wow

1544
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:00,280
And there's

1545
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,960
ten million photographers

1546
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,510
all jammed together jostling
in front of us

1547
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:09,190
And I'm

1548
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:10,730
trying to maintain composure

1549
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:11,489
and

1550
00:54:11,489 --> 00:54:12,320
not

1551
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,289
run screaming off down the
Mall down towards the Lincoln

1552
00:54:15,289 --> 00:54:16,590
Memorial

1553
00:54:18,070 --> 00:54:20,550
But I saw Liz Cheney
and she was looking at

1554
00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:22,190
me and

1555
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:25,260
that kind of
calmed me down

1556
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:26,610
gavel bangs

1557
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,110
I now welcome Rusty Bowers

1558
00:54:30,110 --> 00:54:31,030
a distinguished

1559
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:31,730
legislator

1560
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:33,200
from Arizona

1561
00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:34,500
Speaker Bowers

1562
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,739
thank you for being
with us today

1563
00:54:37,739 --> 00:54:38,889
This is a loyal

1564
00:54:38,889 --> 00:54:40,019
lifelong Republican

1565
00:54:40,019 --> 00:54:40,880
He's a conservative

1566
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,460
who fought to
get Trump reelected

1567
00:54:43,460 --> 00:54:44,190
Arizona

1568
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:46,389
House Speaker Rusty Bowers

1569
00:54:46,389 --> 00:54:48,260
come on up here

1570
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,480
cheers and applause Rusty Bowers
is a compelling person

1571
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,530
It's hard to talk
to him and not

1572
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:55,949
believe him

1573
00:54:55,949 --> 00:54:59,250
And the stories that he
told about his direct communications

1574
00:54:59,250 --> 00:55:00,739
with the president

1575
00:55:00,739 --> 00:55:03,800
were just so indicative
and so powerful

1576
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,369
that he was kind of
an obvious choice frankly for

1577
00:55:06,369 --> 00:55:10,610
somebody that America needed
to hear from directly

1578
00:55:10,610 --> 00:55:13,000
After the election you received
a phone call from President

1579
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,849
Trump and Rudy Giuliani

1580
00:55:14,849 --> 00:55:16,579
in which they
discussed the result

1581
00:55:16,579 --> 00:55:19,199
of the presidential
election in Arizona

1582
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:23,539
If you would tell
us about that call

1583
00:55:23,539 --> 00:55:24,860
Mr the president

1584
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:25,780
initially

1585
00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:28,030
laid out the broad

1586
00:55:28,030 --> 00:55:29,010
claim

1587
00:55:29,010 --> 00:55:29,869
of fraud

1588
00:55:29,869 --> 00:55:31,660
across the country

1589
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,030
named different states

1590
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:35,100
including my own

1591
00:55:35,969 --> 00:55:37,480
What was the ask

1592
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,989
during this call

1593
00:55:38,989 --> 00:55:41,380
He was making these allegations
of fraud but he had

1594
00:55:41,380 --> 00:55:43,830
something or a couple things

1595
00:55:44,019 --> 00:55:46,480
that they wanted you to
do what were those They

1596
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,780
said Well we have heard

1597
00:55:48,909 --> 00:55:52,090
via an official high
up in the Republican

1598
00:55:52,090 --> 00:55:53,390
Legislature

1599
00:55:54,030 --> 00:55:55,690
that there is a

1600
00:55:55,690 --> 00:55:59,469
legal theory or a
legal ability in Arizona

1601
00:55:59,469 --> 00:56:01,199
that you can remove

1602
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:02,429
the

1603
00:56:02,429 --> 00:56:03,730
um

1604
00:56:04,550 --> 00:56:05,480
electors

1605
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,920
of President

1606
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,100
Biden and replace them

1607
00:56:09,139 --> 00:56:10,780
chuckles Well

1608
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,659
for them to say to
me Yeah we just want

1609
00:56:13,659 --> 00:56:16,219
you to throw out those
electors and put in Trump's

1610
00:56:16,219 --> 00:56:17,690
I'm thinking

1611
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,469
Have have I gone
to another planet

1612
00:56:20,469 --> 00:56:22,410
I mean it's like what

1613
00:56:22,690 --> 00:56:24,260
I'm not gonna do that

1614
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:26,269
I mean I wanted him
to win okay so what

1615
00:56:26,269 --> 00:56:27,710
I'm not gonna cheat

1616
00:56:27,710 --> 00:56:29,369
I'm not gonna
cheat to win

1617
00:56:29,369 --> 00:56:31,139
What what's that

1618
00:56:31,139 --> 00:56:34,039
I flat out
flat out said

1619
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:37,119
You're asking me to
break my oath

1620
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,719
I swore an oath I'm
not gonna break it

1621
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,340
period

1622
00:56:40,340 --> 00:56:42,140
Not gonna break it

1623
00:56:43,369 --> 00:56:44,469
I said Well

1624
00:56:44,469 --> 00:56:46,539
if you're talking this

1625
00:56:46,539 --> 00:56:48,720
I gotta have the proof

1626
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:49,940
I said Rudy

1627
00:56:49,940 --> 00:56:51,860
do you have the names
of the dead people who

1628
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:52,860
voted

1629
00:56:52,860 --> 00:56:54,369
He goes Yes

1630
00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:56,320
And do you have
the names of the

1631
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,460
200 000

1632
00:56:57,460 --> 00:56:58,760
illegals

1633
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,639
who voted

1634
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:01,820
in our election Yes

1635
00:57:02,230 --> 00:57:04,489
I said I
want those names

1636
00:57:04,489 --> 00:57:05,650
And the presidensays

1637
00:57:05,650 --> 00:57:07,670
Rudy give the man what
he wants give him what

1638
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:09,980
he wants He says Yeah
we've got them Mr President

1639
00:57:09,980 --> 00:57:11,960
and I'll get them
to him NARRATOR

1640
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,599
In the criminal indictment

1641
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:17,039
Jack Smith saw the call
as evidence of a crime

1642
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:17,929
The Defendant

1643
00:57:17,929 --> 00:57:19,519
and Co Conspirator 1

1644
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,300
asked the Arizona House Speaker

1645
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:22,630
to use the legislature

1646
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:24,059
to circumvent the process

1647
00:57:24,059 --> 00:57:25,639
by which legitimate electors

1648
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:27,400
would be ascertained

1649
00:57:27,619 --> 00:57:30,110
If you are calling
a state official

1650
00:57:30,110 --> 00:57:31,650
and you're asking them

1651
00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:32,599
to nullify

1652
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:33,880
lawful votes

1653
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,550
and to replace them
with unlawful votes

1654
00:57:36,550 --> 00:57:38,059
that is squarely

1655
00:57:38,059 --> 00:57:39,659
within federal statutes

1656
00:57:39,659 --> 00:57:40,550
regulating

1657
00:57:40,550 --> 00:57:42,340
election conspiracy

1658
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:43,000
NARRATOR

1659
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,829
Not long after the call

1660
00:57:44,829 --> 00:57:45,750
Rudy Giuliani

1661
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:46,400
himself

1662
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,260
arrived in Arizona

1663
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:51,289
Did you meet with Mr
Giuliani and his associates

1664
00:57:51,289 --> 00:57:52,639
while they were in Phoenix

1665
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:54,550
Yes I did sir

1666
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,699
There was a row
of people and

1667
00:57:56,699 --> 00:57:57,340
Giuliani

1668
00:57:57,340 --> 00:57:58,409
and Jenna Ellis

1669
00:57:58,409 --> 00:58:00,410
I recognized them

1670
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:04,480
And I sat down
on the opposite side

1671
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,099
And I just said Did
you bring me the proof

1672
00:58:07,099 --> 00:58:08,739
And he said
What I said

1673
00:58:08,739 --> 00:58:10,989
Do you remember
our phone call

1674
00:58:10,989 --> 00:58:12,550
when you said you were
going to bring me the

1675
00:58:12,550 --> 00:58:13,850
proof

1676
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:15,480
And

1677
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,230
he said Oh yeah

1678
00:58:17,230 --> 00:58:18,940
I said Did
you bring it

1679
00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:21,579
And he looked turned to
Jenna Ellis and he says

1680
00:58:21,579 --> 00:58:23,340
Do you have the proof

1681
00:58:24,110 --> 00:58:25,789
And she said Yeah

1682
00:58:25,789 --> 00:58:27,860
Well can we see it

1683
00:58:27,969 --> 00:58:28,940
She

1684
00:58:28,940 --> 00:58:30,960
leans over and fumbles
through her briefcase

1685
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,400
and says Oh no I
don't have it here must

1686
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,480
be at the hotel room

1687
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:39,510
This meeting or at any
other later time did anyone

1688
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:42,360
provide you with evidence
of election fraud sufficient

1689
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,599
to affect the outcome of
the presidential election in Arizona

1690
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,570
No one provided me ever

1691
00:58:47,570 --> 00:58:48,179
such

1692
00:58:48,179 --> 00:58:49,480
evidence

1693
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,220
interview

1694
00:58:52,340 --> 00:58:54,030
Giuliani was kind of frustrated

1695
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:55,530
with us all and he
said You know we've got

1696
00:58:55,530 --> 00:58:58,659
a lot of theories we
just don't have the evidence

1697
00:58:58,659 --> 00:58:59,960
chuckles

1698
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,659
And I when I

1699
00:59:02,659 --> 00:59:04,650
heard him say that I

1700
00:59:04,829 --> 00:59:06,250
I said

1701
00:59:07,409 --> 00:59:10,510
Did he just say
what I thought he

1702
00:59:10,510 --> 00:59:13,090
said laughs And they all
looked at me like the

1703
00:59:13,090 --> 00:59:15,059
same thing on
their mind like

1704
00:59:15,059 --> 00:59:16,059
Whoa

1705
00:59:16,059 --> 00:59:17,969
laughs You know
that Yeah he

1706
00:59:17,969 --> 00:59:19,170
just said that

1707
00:59:19,170 --> 00:59:22,829
That was like a rocket's
red glare moment Like wow

1708
00:59:22,829 --> 00:59:24,170
laughs That's

1709
00:59:24,210 --> 00:59:25,519
you gotta be kidding

1710
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:26,809
this is like a

1711
00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:28,730
this is the
clown show they're

1712
00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:31,869
out hunting they're trying
to find something

1713
00:59:31,869 --> 00:59:33,780
and and they're wanting
us to participate

1714
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:36,199
in this and and
he says that

1715
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:36,840
Holy

1716
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,480
moly we can't do this
stuff you know it's like

1717
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,440
NARRATOR

1718
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,780
Rudy Giuliani refused to answer
questions from the committee about

1719
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:45,750
his conversations

1720
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:47,230
with Bowers

1721
00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:51,880
Trump attorney Jenna
Ellis also refused

1722
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,989
For the January

1723
00:59:52,989 --> 00:59:53,889
6th committee

1724
00:59:53,889 --> 00:59:55,179
that meeting with Bowers

1725
00:59:55,179 --> 00:59:57,310
was a bombshell revelation

1726
00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:58,880
We have a lot of
theories but we don't have

1727
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,310
any evidence

1728
01:00:00,489 --> 01:00:01,349
That shows

1729
01:00:01,349 --> 01:00:01,969
that

1730
01:00:01,969 --> 01:00:04,539
none of this had to
do with evidence or reality

1731
01:00:04,539 --> 01:00:06,119
right This is all about

1732
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:08,769
just making stuff up in
order to justify keeping Trump

1733
01:00:08,769 --> 01:00:13,340
in power NARRATOR The phrase
Giuliani uttered would become iconic

1734
01:00:13,340 --> 01:00:14,340
and Giuliani

1735
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:16,960
a central figure
in Trump's indictment

1736
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,849
listed as Co
Conspirator mber 1

1737
01:00:19,849 --> 01:00:23,170
Co Conspirator 1 responded with
words to the effect of

1738
01:00:23,170 --> 01:00:25,260
'We don't have the evidence

1739
01:00:25,260 --> 01:00:28,030
but we have
lots of theories

1740
01:00:28,030 --> 01:00:28,880
It shows

1741
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,030
Rudy Giuliani

1742
01:00:30,030 --> 01:00:30,949
admitting

1743
01:00:30,949 --> 01:00:32,780
that there's no evidence

1744
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:35,190
for the theories they had
that these are just talking

1745
01:00:35,190 --> 01:00:36,789
points not backed

1746
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:38,219
with any fact

1747
01:00:38,219 --> 01:00:39,329
And that's exactly

1748
01:00:39,329 --> 01:00:40,130
the theory

1749
01:00:40,130 --> 01:00:41,710
of the government

1750
01:00:42,769 --> 01:00:44,130
During the conversation

1751
01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:46,530
did he bring up the
fact that you shared a

1752
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:47,789
similar party

1753
01:00:47,789 --> 01:00:48,929
He would say

1754
01:00:48,929 --> 01:00:50,099
Aren't we all Republicans

1755
01:00:50,099 --> 01:00:51,030
here I

1756
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:52,889
would think we would
get a better reception

1757
01:00:52,889 --> 01:00:55,190
I mean I would think
you would listen a little

1758
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:57,079
more open to my suggestions

1759
01:00:57,079 --> 01:00:58,660
we're all Republicans

1760
01:01:01,349 --> 01:01:03,700
For someone to ask me

1761
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,310
to deny my oath

1762
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,590
and just let the
courts figure it out

1763
01:01:08,590 --> 01:01:09,360
or

1764
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,219
let somebody else punt
it to someone else

1765
01:01:14,219 --> 01:01:15,360
is not something

1766
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,970
I will do

1767
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:20,719
What you have to understand
here is that Rusty Bowers

1768
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:21,809
this guy who

1769
01:01:21,809 --> 01:01:24,690
worked for Trump wanted Trump
to be reelected in Arizona

1770
01:01:24,690 --> 01:01:26,110
worked for Trump's reelection

1771
01:01:26,110 --> 01:01:28,079
is given a choice he
can choose between his oath

1772
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:29,360
to the Constitution

1773
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,539
or President Trump

1774
01:01:30,539 --> 01:01:32,409
And he stays loyal
to the Constitution

1775
01:01:32,409 --> 01:01:33,960
That is in effect

1776
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,440
what the choice that he's
given Even in the past

1777
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,500
when there

1778
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:38,630
have been Rusty Bowers

1779
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:41,710
speaks with a moral and
legal clarity that's very necessary

1780
01:01:41,710 --> 01:01:42,599
to understand

1781
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:44,200
We choose

1782
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,750
to follow the outcome of

1783
01:01:49,869 --> 01:01:53,327
the will of the people
It's it's my oath And

1784
01:01:53,327 --> 01:01:55,920
and I hope that
I'll never break that

1785
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,730
I know I'm not you
know I'm not perfect I'm

1786
01:01:57,730 --> 01:01:59,920
certainly not a perfect witness

1787
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,140
But I am a witness

1788
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:06,080
And uh

1789
01:02:08,969 --> 01:02:10,680
I had my say

1790
01:02:11,929 --> 01:02:14,239
And I wasn't trying to
flower it up I

1791
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:16,140
wasn't trying to be

1792
01:02:17,449 --> 01:02:19,219
anything other than just Rusty

1793
01:02:19,219 --> 01:02:20,519
NARRATOR

1794
01:02:27,519 --> 01:02:29,980
Rusty Bowers is now a
key witness on a central

1795
01:02:29,980 --> 01:02:31,990
charge of the indictment

1796
01:02:32,349 --> 01:02:34,429
The Defendant and his co

1797
01:02:34,429 --> 01:02:37,219
conspirators executed a strategy
to use knowing deceit

1798
01:02:37,219 --> 01:02:38,510
in the targeted states

1799
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:39,889
to impair obstruct

1800
01:02:39,889 --> 01:02:43,119
and defeat the
federal government function

1801
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:44,690
NARRATOR In their filings

1802
01:02:44,690 --> 01:02:48,030
Trump's lawyers have argued he
is immune from prosecution

1803
01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:50,820
because was doing his
job as president

1804
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:53,940
when he worked to
change the election results

1805
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:56,969
The indictment is based entirely
on alleged actions within the

1806
01:02:56,969 --> 01:02:59,539
heartland of President
Trump's official duties

1807
01:02:59,539 --> 01:03:02,159
or at the very least
within the 'outer perimeter

1808
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:04,130
of his official duties

1809
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:05,050
The

1810
01:03:05,050 --> 01:03:07,150
former president has
a motion claiming

1811
01:03:07,150 --> 01:03:09,230
that he is

1812
01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:10,400
immune

1813
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,300
from criminal process

1814
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:15,519
with regard to these charges
which involve his official acts

1815
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:16,309
as

1816
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:18,460
president of the United States

1817
01:03:18,460 --> 01:03:21,829
As President Trump is absolutely
immune from criminal prosecution

1818
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:22,940
for such acts

1819
01:03:22,940 --> 01:03:25,380
the Court should
dismiss the indictment

1820
01:03:25,380 --> 01:03:27,130
Donald Trump's legal team suggesting

1821
01:03:27,130 --> 01:03:29,320
that even a president
who had a political

1822
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,929
rival

1823
01:03:29,929 --> 01:03:30,780
assassinated

1824
01:03:30,780 --> 01:03:32,840
could still be
immune from criminal

1825
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,610
prosecution NARRATOR

1826
01:03:36,219 --> 01:03:39,690
The federal judge presiding over
the case has already rejected

1827
01:03:39,690 --> 01:03:41,639
Trump's immunity claims

1828
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:43,780
saying a president
is not entitled

1829
01:03:43,780 --> 01:03:45,119
to a life long

1830
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:46,559
get out of jail free

1831
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:47,860
pass

1832
01:03:48,019 --> 01:03:51,380
The questions being raised right
now regarding presidential immunity

1833
01:03:51,380 --> 01:03:52,730
are absolutely

1834
01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:53,710
key

1835
01:03:53,710 --> 01:03:55,809
to the very foundation

1836
01:03:55,809 --> 01:03:57,320
the very philosophical

1837
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,159
foundation

1838
01:03:58,159 --> 01:03:59,780
of this republic

1839
01:04:00,769 --> 01:04:02,730
Because if you take an
oath of office in the

1840
01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:04,329
United States of America

1841
01:04:04,329 --> 01:04:08,929
you're swearing an oath to
our system of government

1842
01:04:08,929 --> 01:04:09,780
And so

1843
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:10,820
if a president

1844
01:04:10,820 --> 01:04:13,619
is not subject to that
system of government if he's

1845
01:04:13,619 --> 01:04:16,079
not subject to that
code of laws

1846
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:17,500
we don't have

1847
01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:18,980
quite the republic

1848
01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:21,160
that we thought we had

1849
01:04:21,679 --> 01:04:23,940
siren wailing NARRATOR An appeals
court is now considering the

1850
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:25,820
question of immunity

1851
01:04:26,190 --> 01:04:27,599
Whatever the decision

1852
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:32,820
both sides could appeal to
the United States Supreme Court

1853
01:04:37,909 --> 01:04:39,210
indistinct

1854
01:04:39,909 --> 01:04:41,210
chatter

1855
01:04:45,739 --> 01:04:47,420
The committee's investigation

1856
01:04:47,420 --> 01:04:51,809
kept bringing them back to
what happened in Georgia

1857
01:04:51,809 --> 01:04:54,210
laughter Mr Giuliani what are
you doing here in Georgia

1858
01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:55,224
You'll see

1859
01:04:55,224 --> 01:04:56,059
NARRATOR

1860
01:04:56,059 --> 01:04:58,920
Giuliani was there to make
his case to the Republican

1861
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,260
state legislature

1862
01:05:00,260 --> 01:05:02,310
Bless you too Don't

1863
01:05:02,489 --> 01:05:03,440
give up Oh I'm not
giving up Never never give

1864
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,960
up Nope

1865
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,539
He was very jovial

1866
01:05:06,539 --> 01:05:08,390
I have to tell you

1867
01:05:08,929 --> 01:05:12,539
I think he had gotten
basically a king's welcome

1868
01:05:12,539 --> 01:05:14,310
by all the Republicans

1869
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,309
cameras clicking It was like

1870
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:18,030
you know he
was their superstar

1871
01:05:18,030 --> 01:05:19,410
or whatever

1872
01:05:20,530 --> 01:05:22,610
man laughs They all wanted
pictures with him They were

1873
01:05:22,610 --> 01:05:25,380
all so impressed with him
and couldn't believe that he

1874
01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:26,880
was there

1875
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,180
Um

1876
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:28,969
very

1877
01:05:28,969 --> 01:05:33,969
obsequious cheers and applause We
appreciate you Rudy We love

1878
01:05:33,969 --> 01:05:37,550
you Rudy NARRATOR Giuliani and
others from Trump's team had

1879
01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:38,809
come with a conspiracy

1880
01:05:38,809 --> 01:05:39,880
theory

1881
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,309
election workers were counting suitcases

1882
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:44,260
of illegal ballots

1883
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:45,059
Tha

1884
01:05:45,059 --> 01:05:46,400
you Mr Chairman Thank
you Senator Jordan

1885
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,280
Thank you Mr Chairman

1886
01:05:48,389 --> 01:05:51,400
NARRATOR Jen Jordan a Democratic
state senator was in the

1887
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,769
room with Giuliani

1888
01:05:52,769 --> 01:05:56,030
Jenna Ellis and
Trump's other lawyers

1889
01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:57,969
They are going to pull

1890
01:05:57,969 --> 01:05:59,130
ballots

1891
01:05:59,130 --> 01:06:01,610
out from underneath a table

1892
01:06:02,389 --> 01:06:03,909
Watch this table

1893
01:06:03,909 --> 01:06:06,360
You had the woman
who was narrating

1894
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,440
This table

1895
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,610
the black one

1896
01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:10,150
was placed there

1897
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:11,090
by

1898
01:06:11,090 --> 01:06:13,010
the lady with
the blonde braids

1899
01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:15,199
And saying You see
this woman here

1900
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:17,140
You see her here

1901
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:19,170
At about 8 00 in
the morning we're going to

1902
01:06:19,170 --> 01:06:20,840
roll this back and show
it to you there you

1903
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:21,599
go

1904
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:23,269
so now they're going to
start pulling these ballots out

1905
01:06:23,269 --> 01:06:25,060
from under this table

1906
01:06:25,449 --> 01:06:26,690
I don't know the name
of the lady in the

1907
01:06:26,690 --> 01:06:29,380
blonde braids but one of
them had the name Ruby

1908
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:30,039
across

1909
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:31,429
her shirt somewhere

1910
01:06:31,429 --> 01:06:33,630
She's taking the ballots

1911
01:06:34,340 --> 01:06:35,269
o

1912
01:06:35,269 --> 01:06:38,920
filling them in or
she's stealing these ballots

1913
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,329
NARRATOR It was an allegation

1914
01:06:40,329 --> 01:06:41,349
Trump personally

1915
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:42,650
amplified

1916
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:46,110
There's even security camera
footage from Georgia

1917
01:06:46,110 --> 01:06:47,389
that shows officials

1918
01:06:47,389 --> 01:06:51,010
telling poll watchers to leave
the room before pulling suitcases

1919
01:06:51,010 --> 01:06:52,130
of ballots

1920
01:06:52,130 --> 01:06:53,900
out from under the tables

1921
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:55,039
and continuing

1922
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,140
to count for hours

1923
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,619
They kept on recycling

1924
01:06:58,619 --> 01:07:00,110
these things

1925
01:07:00,139 --> 01:07:04,059
The footage appears to
show poll workers

1926
01:07:04,340 --> 01:07:06,190
It's like playing outwhack a
mole Yeah how about those

1927
01:07:06,190 --> 01:07:06,900
suitcases

1928
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:09,070
that were pulled out from
the table in Georgia Looking

1929
01:07:09,070 --> 01:07:11,039
at ballots they're finding
them under the tables

1930
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,235
I mean this is like
a banana republic NARRATOR But

1931
01:07:13,235 --> 01:07:14,489
the full surveillance

1932
01:07:14,489 --> 01:07:15,199
video

1933
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:17,099
didn't show what
Trump and Giuliani

1934
01:07:17,099 --> 01:07:18,300
claimed

1935
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:19,610
The magic suitcases

1936
01:07:19,610 --> 01:07:21,409
which were really just ballot
carriers that had been put

1937
01:07:21,409 --> 01:07:23,210
under the table about an
hour earlier and they were

1938
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:25,039
placed under there with the
monitors and the press in

1939
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:26,139
the room

1940
01:07:26,139 --> 01:07:27,599
NARRATOR A day after

1941
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:28,750
Giuliani's presentation

1942
01:07:28,750 --> 01:07:31,519
the video aired
on local TV

1943
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:33,139
Their claims were debunked

1944
01:07:33,139 --> 01:07:35,199
This is the short section
of the video the Trump

1945
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:37,159
team has shared
It's not suitcases

1946
01:07:37,159 --> 01:07:38,840
being pulled from
under that table

1947
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,670
but official

1948
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:41,389
sealed ballot containers

1949
01:07:41,389 --> 01:07:44,469
If we go back in
the video to hours before

1950
01:07:44,469 --> 01:07:46,420
you can see that table
being brought into the room

1951
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:48,860
at 8 22 a
m Nothing underneath

1952
01:07:48,860 --> 01:07:50,349
no hidden suitcases

1953
01:07:50,349 --> 01:07:52,820
As ballots that have been
opened but not counted are

1954
01:07:52,820 --> 01:07:54,190
placed in the boxes

1955
01:07:54,190 --> 01:07:57,380
sealed up and stored under
the table No magical appearing

1956
01:07:57,380 --> 01:07:59,269
ballots These were ballots that
were processed in front of

1957
01:07:59,269 --> 01:08:00,190
the monitors

1958
01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:01,570
put in the boxes in
front of the monitors and

1959
01:08:01,570 --> 01:08:03,750
placed there in front
of the monitors

1960
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:04,960
And I

1961
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,300
I'll go to my deathbed
knowing that they knowingly lied

1962
01:08:07,300 --> 01:08:09,340
They looked in the state
senators eyes the people of

1963
01:08:09,340 --> 01:08:11,079
Georgia the people of America
and lied to them about

1964
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:12,650
this and knew
they were lying

1965
01:08:12,650 --> 01:08:13,940
to try to keep this

1966
01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:18,110
charade going on that there
was fraud in Georgia

1967
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:19,399
NARRATOR But the conspiracy

1968
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:20,000
theories

1969
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,300
continued

1970
01:08:21,310 --> 01:08:22,470
This is not a conspiracy

1971
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:23,109
theory

1972
01:08:23,109 --> 01:08:24,350
those are legitimate

1973
01:08:24,350 --> 01:08:25,239
questions

1974
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:27,989
I think the woman in
charge here is named Rubyreeman

1975
01:08:27,989 --> 01:08:30,170
and I think her
daughter Shay Freeman Moss

1976
01:08:30,170 --> 01:08:32,630
either was helping here
or helping her earlier

1977
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:33,500
NARRATOR Giuliani

1978
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:36,569
had caed out by
name two election workers

1979
01:08:36,569 --> 01:08:37,590
Shaye Moss

1980
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:39,350
and Ruby Freeman

1981
01:08:39,750 --> 01:08:41,560
After pulling out hidden boxes

1982
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,970
stuffed with ballots

1983
01:08:42,970 --> 01:08:45,529
Ruby Freeman as seen
here in this video

1984
01:08:45,529 --> 01:08:46,220
repeatedly

1985
01:08:46,220 --> 01:08:49,643
scanned the same batch of
ballots at least three times

1986
01:08:49,643 --> 01:08:51,829
NARRATOR Like the
claim about suitcases

1987
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:52,829
of ballots

1988
01:08:52,829 --> 01:08:54,359
it wasn't true

1989
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:56,659
The secondary part of that
was They were scanning multiple

1990
01:08:56,659 --> 01:08:58,159
times multiple times

1991
01:08:58,159 --> 01:08:59,149
And

1992
01:08:59,149 --> 01:09:01,869
a standard operating procedure is
if there's a mis scan

1993
01:09:01,869 --> 01:09:03,930
you delete that batch and
straighten it up like you

1994
01:09:03,930 --> 01:09:05,899
do And then run
it through again

1995
01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:07,180
and that's what
they were doing

1996
01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:08,710
And the reason we know
that's the case is because

1997
01:09:08,710 --> 01:09:10,060
we had a hand tally

1998
01:09:10,060 --> 01:09:11,029
that showed

1999
01:09:11,029 --> 01:09:13,729
the number of ballots
matched what was counted

2000
01:09:13,729 --> 01:09:17,470
So we know that
they didn't do that

2001
01:09:18,939 --> 01:09:20,369
I now welcome

2002
01:09:20,369 --> 01:09:22,520
Andrea Shaye Moss

2003
01:09:23,909 --> 01:09:25,829
In December 2020

2004
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:27,829
Miss Moss and her mother

2005
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:29,329
Ms Ruby Freeman

2006
01:09:29,329 --> 01:09:30,739
became the target

2007
01:09:30,739 --> 01:09:31,699
People

2008
01:09:31,699 --> 01:09:33,430
say You know

2009
01:09:33,979 --> 01:09:36,619
I know somebody just like
those two ladies in my

2010
01:09:36,619 --> 01:09:37,710
community

2011
01:09:37,710 --> 01:09:39,480
who work elections

2012
01:09:40,489 --> 01:09:41,470
And they're just

2013
01:09:41,470 --> 01:09:43,230
everyday people

2014
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:46,539
To have them as a
witness for our committee

2015
01:09:46,539 --> 01:09:47,210
I

2016
01:09:47,210 --> 01:09:48,960
think was very powerful

2017
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:51,289
I understand that
you are here

2018
01:09:51,289 --> 01:09:53,550
along with your mother today

2019
01:09:53,550 --> 01:09:58,619
Uh would you like
to introduce your momma

2020
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,140
Hi Ma

2021
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:04,520
chuckles

2022
01:10:05,699 --> 01:10:07,760
Well I know the events
that we're here to talk

2023
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,189
about today are incrediblyifficult

2024
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:11,630
to relive

2025
01:10:12,140 --> 01:10:14,270
I'd like to show you
some of the statements that

2026
01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:17,140
Rudy Giuliani made a week
after that video clip from

2027
01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:19,699
State Farm Arena
was first circulated

2028
01:10:19,699 --> 01:10:20,890
by Mr Giuliani

2029
01:10:20,890 --> 01:10:22,520
and President Trump I

2030
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,210
want to advise viewers that
these statements are completely false

2031
01:10:26,210 --> 01:10:27,560
and also deeply

2032
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,860
disturbing

2033
01:10:29,069 --> 01:10:30,920
Tape earlier in the day

2034
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,699
of Ruby Freeman and Shaye
Freeman Moss and one other

2035
01:10:33,699 --> 01:10:34,819
gentleman

2036
01:10:34,819 --> 01:10:35,869
quite obviously

2037
01:10:35,869 --> 01:10:36,840
surreptitiously

2038
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,600
passing around

2039
01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:39,729
USB ports

2040
01:10:39,729 --> 01:10:42,720
as if they're vials
of heroin or cocaine

2041
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,750
He sounded a lot more

2042
01:10:45,260 --> 01:10:47,149
despera Quite frankly he seemed

2043
01:10:47,149 --> 01:10:48,930
more unhinged

2044
01:10:49,180 --> 01:10:50,460
He made some

2045
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:51,260
overtly

2046
01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:52,000
racist

2047
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,220
comments

2048
01:10:53,220 --> 01:10:54,529
They look like

2049
01:10:54,529 --> 01:10:56,210
they're passing out dope

2050
01:10:56,210 --> 01:10:57,510
not just

2051
01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:58,380
ballots It

2052
01:10:58,380 --> 01:10:59,989
is quite clear
they are stealing

2053
01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:01,229
votes

2054
01:11:01,229 --> 01:11:03,369
They're still walking around Georgia

2055
01:11:03,369 --> 01:11:05,039
lying They

2056
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:07,539
should have been they should
have been they should have

2057
01:11:07,539 --> 01:11:09,380
been questioned already

2058
01:11:09,899 --> 01:11:13,100
Their places of work their
homes should've been searched

2059
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:15,100
for evidence of ballots

2060
01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:16,550
evidence of

2061
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:17,560
USB ports

2062
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,119
for evidence of voter fraud

2063
01:11:19,119 --> 01:11:20,420
NARRATOR

2064
01:11:22,949 --> 01:11:25,960
But there was no evidence
that they were passing USB

2065
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,109
drives

2066
01:11:27,109 --> 01:11:29,550
In one of the videos
we just watched Mr Giuliani

2067
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:32,069
accused you and your mother
of passing some sort of

2068
01:11:32,069 --> 01:11:33,500
USB drive

2069
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,159
to each other

2070
01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:38,920
What was your mom actually
handing you on that video

2071
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,779
A ginger mint

2072
01:11:42,899 --> 01:11:46,329
Passing along a ginger
mint back and forth

2073
01:11:46,329 --> 01:11:49,380
gets spun up into
this baseless theory

2074
01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:52,880
not an accident It is
meant to stir up people's

2075
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,840
anger It wasn't just Rudy
Giuliani And these two Black

2076
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,100
women who

2077
01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:00,520
are ing their civic
duty are vilified

2078
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,199
It really does end
up ruining people's lives

2079
01:12:04,199 --> 01:12:06,020
I mean I can't tell
you how many emails I

2080
01:12:06,020 --> 01:12:06,810
got

2081
01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:09,470
with respect to Shaye Moss
and Ruby Freeman and that

2082
01:12:09,470 --> 01:12:11,610
they should be strung up

2083
01:12:40,170 --> 01:12:41,520
Were a lot
of these threats

2084
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,409
and vile comments racist

2085
01:12:43,409 --> 01:12:44,949
in nature

2086
01:12:45,409 --> 01:12:46,989
A lot of
them were racist

2087
01:12:46,989 --> 01:12:49,810
a lot of them
were just hateful

2088
01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:51,390
A lot of threats

2089
01:12:51,390 --> 01:12:52,640
um

2090
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,630
wishing death upon me

2091
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:55,930
um

2092
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,159
Telling

2093
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:58,199
me that

2094
01:12:58,199 --> 01:13:01,100
you know I'll be in
jail with my mother

2095
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:02,260
and

2096
01:13:02,260 --> 01:13:04,010
saying things like

2097
01:13:04,010 --> 01:13:05,619
Be glad it's 2020

2098
01:13:05,619 --> 01:13:07,539
and not 1920

2099
01:13:11,010 --> 01:13:12,119
These women

2100
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:14,600
whose lives had been completely

2101
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,900
destroyed

2102
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,189
that's where

2103
01:13:18,189 --> 01:13:19,069
the story

2104
01:13:19,069 --> 01:13:21,050
about the state pressure

2105
01:13:21,819 --> 01:13:23,119
ca

2106
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:25,619
I felt horrible

2107
01:13:25,890 --> 01:13:28,539
I felt like it was
all my fault like

2108
01:13:28,539 --> 01:13:30,730
if I would have never

2109
01:13:30,979 --> 01:13:32,430
decided to be an elections

2110
01:13:32,430 --> 01:13:33,319
worker

2111
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:34,260
like

2112
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:37,010
I could have done
anything else but

2113
01:13:37,010 --> 01:13:40,329
that's what I decided
to do And now

2114
01:13:40,329 --> 01:13:42,000
people are lying

2115
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,560
and spreading rumors and lies
and attacking my mom

2116
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,430
I'm her only child

2117
01:13:49,470 --> 01:13:51,970
I just felt like it
was it was my fault

2118
01:13:51,970 --> 01:13:56,130
for putting my family
in this situation

2119
01:13:58,119 --> 01:14:00,829
There are real world consequences

2120
01:14:00,829 --> 01:14:03,029
to lying and attacking

2121
01:14:03,029 --> 01:14:04,399
and demonizing

2122
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:06,880
innocent people in this country

2123
01:14:07,689 --> 01:14:10,140
And Donald Trump has always
been very heedless of the

2124
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:11,189
human costs

2125
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:13,550
of his lies
and his gaslighting

2126
01:14:13,550 --> 01:14:15,640
And this is
a very painful

2127
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,760
example

2128
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,250
of that

2129
01:14:19,239 --> 01:14:20,899
Ms Moss I want to
thank you for coming in

2130
01:14:20,899 --> 01:14:22,800
to speak with us and

2131
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,949
to thank you
for your service

2132
01:14:24,949 --> 01:14:26,449
to our democracy

2133
01:14:27,449 --> 01:14:28,250
With your permission

2134
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:29,800
I would like to
give your mother

2135
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,539
the last word

2136
01:14:32,890 --> 01:14:35,529
My name is Ruby Freeman

2137
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:38,720
I've always believed it when
God says that He'll make

2138
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,100
your name great

2139
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:41,400
but

2140
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:44,989
this is not the way
it was supposed to be

2141
01:14:44,989 --> 01:14:46,079
soft chuckle

2142
01:14:46,079 --> 01:14:48,199
I built my own business

2143
01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:50,029
around that name LaRuby's

2144
01:14:50,029 --> 01:14:51,449
Unique Treasures

2145
01:14:51,449 --> 01:14:52,750
a

2146
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,319
pop up shop catering

2147
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:57,060
to ladies with unique fashions

2148
01:14:57,829 --> 01:14:59,970
I wore a
shirt that proudly

2149
01:14:59,970 --> 01:15:00,630
proclaimed

2150
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:02,189
that I was

2151
01:15:02,189 --> 01:15:03,479
and I am

2152
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,230
Lady Ruby

2153
01:15:05,409 --> 01:15:06,029
Actually

2154
01:15:06,029 --> 01:15:08,560
I had that shirt on

2155
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,119
I had that shirt
in every color

2156
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:14,699
I wore that shirt
on Election Day 2020

2157
01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:16,880
I haven't worn it since

2158
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:20,319
and I'll never
wear it again

2159
01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:21,069
Now

2160
01:15:21,069 --> 01:15:22,810
I won't even introduce

2161
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:25,890
myself by my name anymore

2162
01:15:26,369 --> 01:15:29,029
There is nowhere
I feel safe

2163
01:15:29,029 --> 01:15:30,329
Nowhere

2164
01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:34,260
Do you know how
it feels to

2165
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:35,550
have the president

2166
01:15:35,550 --> 01:15:39,609
of the United States
to target you

2167
01:15:39,609 --> 01:15:43,010
The president of the United
States is supposed to represent

2168
01:15:43,010 --> 01:15:44,659
every American

2169
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:48,610
Not to target one

2170
01:15:48,850 --> 01:15:49,890
But he targeted

2171
01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:50,819
me

2172
01:15:50,819 --> 01:15:52,800
Lady Ruby a

2173
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,029
small business

2174
01:15:54,029 --> 01:15:54,859
owner

2175
01:15:54,859 --> 01:15:55,779
a mother

2176
01:15:55,779 --> 01:15:57,119
a proud American

2177
01:15:57,119 --> 01:15:58,279
citizen

2178
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:00,090
who stand up

2179
01:16:00,090 --> 01:16:02,920
to help Fulton County
run an election

2180
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,630
in the middle
of the pandemic

2181
01:16:04,630 --> 01:16:05,930
NARRATOR

2182
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:14,159
Federal prosecutors

2183
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,960
have cited the lies about
Freeman and Moss in their

2184
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,260
indictment

2185
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:20,569
Co Conspirator 1 orchestrated

2186
01:16:20,569 --> 01:16:21,449
a presentation

2187
01:16:21,449 --> 01:16:22,489
to a judiciary

2188
01:16:22,489 --> 01:16:25,279
subcommittee of the Georgia state
senate with the intention of

2189
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:25,949
misleading

2190
01:16:25,949 --> 01:16:26,890
state senators

2191
01:16:26,890 --> 01:16:28,630
into blocking the ascertainment

2192
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:30,079
of legitimate

2193
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:33,699
electors Breaking news
in Georgis investigation

2194
01:16:33,699 --> 01:16:35,060
into alleged interference

2195
01:16:35,060 --> 01:16:35,939
in the 2020

2196
01:16:35,939 --> 01:16:36,609
presidential

2197
01:16:36,609 --> 01:16:38,770
election NARRATOR In Georgia prosecutors

2198
01:16:38,770 --> 01:16:41,659
have ao weighed in
with their own charges

2199
01:16:41,659 --> 01:16:43,210
Members of the enterprise

2200
01:16:43,210 --> 01:16:45,189
including several of the defendants

2201
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:48,899
falsely accused Fulton County
election worker Ruby Freeman

2202
01:16:48,899 --> 01:16:52,300
of committing election crimes
in Fulton County Georgia

2203
01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:54,479
flash bulb pops
NARRATOR Trump Giuliani

2204
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,130
and others have been charged
in Georgia with a host

2205
01:16:57,130 --> 01:17:00,350
of crimes related to their
attempts to overturn the 2020

2206
01:17:00,350 --> 01:17:01,650
election

2207
01:17:02,130 --> 01:17:05,029
While Trump and
Giuliani await trial

2208
01:17:05,029 --> 01:17:06,750
four of their codefendants

2209
01:17:06,750 --> 01:17:08,460
have pled guilty

2210
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:10,689
including Jenna Ellis

2211
01:17:10,689 --> 01:17:12,569
If I knew then
what I know now

2212
01:17:12,569 --> 01:17:15,609
I would have declined
to represent Donald Trump

2213
01:17:15,609 --> 01:17:17,300
I look back on
this whole experience

2214
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:18,989
with deep remorse

2215
01:17:18,989 --> 01:17:21,340
for those failures of
mine Your Honor

2216
01:17:21,340 --> 01:17:23,640
It's very important that Jenna
Ellis pled guilty to criminal

2217
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,310
charges

2218
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:25,090
Because

2219
01:17:25,090 --> 01:17:27,829
it raises the point that
Wait a minute this wasn't

2220
01:17:27,829 --> 01:17:30,359
a traditional lawyer client relationship

2221
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:32,020
And so when
you have lawyers

2222
01:17:32,020 --> 01:17:34,489
pleading guilty to crimes

2223
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,449
that is broadcasting

2224
01:17:36,449 --> 01:17:38,189
loudly that they
were not providing

2225
01:17:38,189 --> 01:17:38,899
conventional

2226
01:17:38,899 --> 01:17:40,510
legal advice

2227
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,239
NARRATOR In a
separate civil case

2228
01:17:43,239 --> 01:17:45,430
a federal court
ordered Rudy Giuliani

2229
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:47,039
to pay 146

2230
01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:49,920
million for defaming
Freeman and Moss

2231
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,479
A legal loss for Rudy
Giuliani that could cost him

2232
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,439
millions

2233
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,170
Rudy Giuliani

2234
01:17:54,170 --> 01:17:55,220
the once respected

2235
01:17:55,220 --> 01:17:58,479
New York mayor and former
attorney for Donald Trump has

2236
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,119
filed for bankruptcy Forced
to declare bankruptcy

2237
01:18:01,119 --> 01:18:03,750
the latest chapter in a
dramatic fall for the man

2238
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:06,250
once dubbed America's mayor

2239
01:18:15,020 --> 01:18:16,000
NARRATOR As the January

2240
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,130
6th hearings continued

2241
01:18:18,189 --> 01:18:23,079
the committee linked the efforts
in Georgia to Trump personally

2242
01:18:23,180 --> 01:18:24,550
gavel bangs

2243
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:26,689
They had evidence
and a witness

2244
01:18:26,689 --> 01:18:28,279
Brad Raffensperger

2245
01:18:28,279 --> 01:18:29,930
is the 29th Secretary

2246
01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:31,359
of State of Georgia

2247
01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:32,199
serving

2248
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:34,279
in this role since

2249
01:18:35,670 --> 01:18:37,329
2019 My job as secretary
of state is to make

2250
01:18:37,329 --> 01:18:41,920
sure we have honest
fair and accurate elections

2251
01:18:42,409 --> 01:18:45,489
He's a very
strong Christian hand

2252
01:18:45,489 --> 01:18:47,670
he's very conservative n

2253
01:18:47,670 --> 01:18:49,239
He was an engineer

2254
01:18:49,390 --> 01:18:50,779
Now being an engineer

2255
01:18:50,779 --> 01:18:53,100
allowed him to lean into
the numbers and lean into

2256
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:54,489
the data

2257
01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:56,710
He felt very
comfortable with that

2258
01:18:56,710 --> 01:18:58,600
which is you know
a rare thing for

2259
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,409
anybody in politics because
engineers are very mathematical

2260
01:19:01,409 --> 01:19:02,079
very

2261
01:19:02,079 --> 01:19:03,199
linear

2262
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:06,739
you know not always
the biggest personalities

2263
01:19:06,739 --> 01:19:09,579
I looked at as the
office osecretary of state

2264
01:19:09,579 --> 01:19:13,109
as how do we really
improve the process of elections

2265
01:19:13,109 --> 01:19:13,739
All

2266
01:19:13,739 --> 01:19:15,689
159 counties had new election

2267
01:19:15,689 --> 01:19:16,520
equipment

2268
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,250
with a verifiable paper ballot

2269
01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:21,204
ready for the
election of 2020

2270
01:19:21,204 --> 01:19:22,505
NARRATOR

2271
01:19:22,890 --> 01:19:24,960
It was a phone
call from the president

2272
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,329
that put Raffensperger

2273
01:19:26,329 --> 01:19:28,360
at the center of the

2274
01:19:36,609 --> 01:19:39,319
hearings dial tone phone dialing
out That phone call is

2275
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:42,000
one of the most powerful
piec of evidence that's come

2276
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,619
out of

2277
01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:46,539
this this post election period

2278
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:51,909
electronic beeping indistinct chatter connecting

2279
01:19:52,029 --> 01:19:53,329
tone

2280
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:54,650
Oh

2281
01:19:54,699 --> 01:19:56,989
uh Mark Meadows reached

2282
01:19:59,090 --> 01:20:01,720
out to my deputy
secretary of state

2283
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,510
and she called me and

2284
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:05,800
I told her I didn't
think that was a good

2285
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,100
idea

2286
01:20:07,170 --> 01:20:08,470
And

2287
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,029
we were kind of told
that no we definitely need

2288
01:20:11,029 --> 01:20:12,789
to have this conversation

2289
01:20:12,789 --> 01:20:15,400
on recording It shows

2290
01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:41,579
how

2291
01:20:41,579 --> 01:20:42,489
frantic

2292
01:20:42,489 --> 01:20:44,020
and desperate

2293
01:20:44,319 --> 01:20:45,989
President Trump had become

2294
01:20:45,989 --> 01:20:47,449
by that phone call

2295
01:20:47,449 --> 01:20:48,609
I think it shows

2296
01:20:48,609 --> 01:20:49,909
how

2297
01:20:49,930 --> 01:20:50,979
his demands

2298
01:20:50,979 --> 01:20:52,329
were fully removed

2299
01:20:52,329 --> 01:20:53,579
from

2300
01:20:53,579 --> 01:20:55,310
any kind of evidence

2301
01:21:06,189 --> 01:21:09,220
I just listened
to him talk

2302
01:21:09,220 --> 01:21:10,890
I was making some notes

2303
01:21:10,890 --> 01:21:12,170
Okay 5 000

2304
01:21:12,170 --> 01:21:14,430
Okay great and I'll
respond to that

2305
01:21:14,430 --> 01:21:15,260
But

2306
01:21:15,260 --> 01:21:17,359
when I got
an opportunity to

2307
01:21:17,359 --> 01:21:18,649
you know speak

2308
01:21:18,649 --> 01:21:20,899
then I I just said
Well Mr President the challenge

2309
01:21:20,899 --> 01:21:21,850
that you have

2310
01:21:21,850 --> 01:21:23,800
is your data is wrong

2311
01:21:33,529 --> 01:21:34,850
on recording

2312
01:21:35,180 --> 01:21:38,229
My job was just to
respond with the facts

2313
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:40,295
And if I had a
different set of facts I

2314
01:21:40,295 --> 01:21:42,439
would have responded with
whatever they were

2315
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,479
We just our job
was to give him

2316
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,210
the true data
which I did

2317
01:22:03,949 --> 01:22:05,180
The former president

2318
01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:05,920
was

2319
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,159
pushing

2320
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:08,770
to see if
he could somehow

2321
01:22:08,770 --> 01:22:10,090
you know

2322
01:22:10,090 --> 01:22:11,550
it would move me somewhere

2323
01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:12,710
someplace

2324
01:22:12,710 --> 01:22:15,789
Because I think that's been
an effective strategy for him

2325
01:22:15,789 --> 01:22:19,140
over his business career
and political career

2326
01:22:19,140 --> 01:22:21,100
That people tended to buckle

2327
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,420
instead of stand firm

2328
01:22:22,420 --> 01:22:24,090
on their principles

2329
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:26,680
NARRATOR In Georgia

2330
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,329
Trump had lost to
Biden by 11

2331
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:31,960
779 votes

2332
01:22:50,060 --> 01:22:52,180
Trump didn't understand

2333
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:55,140
it just doesn't click didn't
click with him that someone

2334
01:22:55,140 --> 01:22:57,289
wouldn't just give in

2335
01:22:58,220 --> 01:22:59,770
It just did not occur
to him that there was

2336
01:22:59,770 --> 01:23:00,600
some higher

2337
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:01,420
level

2338
01:23:01,420 --> 01:23:02,329
of loyalty

2339
01:23:02,329 --> 01:23:05,649
to the law
and the Constitution

2340
01:23:07,340 --> 01:23:08,909
I knew that we had
followed the law we had

2341
01:23:08,909 --> 01:23:10,130
followed the Constitution

2342
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:10,979
and

2343
01:23:10,979 --> 01:23:13,220
I think sometimes momentsrp

2344
01:23:14,420 --> 01:23:16,010
and just take the shots

2345
01:23:16,010 --> 01:23:17,439
You're doing your job

2346
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,960
and that's all we did

2347
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,699
You know

2348
01:23:19,699 --> 01:23:22,640
we just followed the law
and we followed the Constitution

2349
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,829
and at the end of
the day President Trump came

2350
01:23:24,829 --> 01:23:25,909
up short

2351
01:23:25,909 --> 01:23:28,579
But I had to be
faithful to the Constitution

2352
01:23:28,579 --> 01:23:31,899
and that's what I swore
an oath to do

2353
01:23:31,899 --> 01:23:35,550
This call becomes critical
because it's recorded

2354
01:23:35,550 --> 01:23:38,279
We get to hear in
the president's own voice how

2355
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:40,729
he's doing it what he's
doing how he's putting pressure

2356
01:23:40,729 --> 01:23:42,300
on these people

2357
01:23:42,569 --> 01:23:43,199
So

2358
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:44,029
look

2359
01:23:44,029 --> 01:23:46,130
all I want to do
is this I just want

2360
01:23:46,130 --> 01:23:47,520
to find

2361
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,720
uh

2362
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,470
11 780

2363
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,980
votes

2364
01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:57,609
This is a scheme
to overthrow an election

2365
01:23:57,609 --> 01:24:00,449
He knew the number that
he needed to hit

2366
01:24:00,449 --> 01:24:03,270
to change the outcome
of the election

2367
01:24:03,270 --> 01:24:04,869
NARRATOR And Trump accused Raffensperger

2368
01:24:04,869 --> 01:24:06,819
himself of a crime

2369
01:24:06,819 --> 01:24:07,500
allowing

2370
01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:09,329
election fraud

2371
01:24:19,460 --> 01:24:21,819
The president of
the United States

2372
01:24:21,819 --> 01:24:22,520
demanding

2373
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,869
that an election official find
thousands of votes and then

2374
01:24:25,869 --> 01:24:26,779
strongly

2375
01:24:26,779 --> 01:24:29,520
implying that there would be
criminal sanction in the event

2376
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,470
that those votes were not
found I mean that is

2377
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:33,319
terrible

2378
01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:35,520
evidence for the president

2379
01:24:35,859 --> 01:24:37,930
What I knew is that
we didn't have any votes

2380
01:24:37,930 --> 01:24:40,529
to find We
continued to look

2381
01:24:40,529 --> 01:24:41,220
we investigated

2382
01:24:41,220 --> 01:24:43,319
like I just shared the
numbers with you there were

2383
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:45,250
no votes to find

2384
01:24:45,859 --> 01:24:47,710
That call is damning and
I think it's going to

2385
01:24:47,710 --> 01:24:49,939
be damning potentially in
front of a jury

2386
01:24:49,939 --> 01:24:51,039
because juries

2387
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:54,289
when they can hear a
defendant's voice on tape

2388
01:24:54,289 --> 01:24:56,000
when they can hear something

2389
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,229
that is that real
and that visceral

2390
01:24:58,229 --> 01:24:59,529
it can be incredibly

2391
01:24:59,529 --> 01:25:01,270
powerful testimony

2392
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,329
call ends

2393
01:25:15,159 --> 01:25:16,039
The Defendant

2394
01:25:16,039 --> 01:25:17,520
said that he
needed to 'find

2395
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,820
11

2396
01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:20,779
780 votes

2397
01:25:20,970 --> 01:25:22,869
It shows him demanding

2398
01:25:22,869 --> 01:25:23,800
a remedy

2399
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,329
that doesn't make any sense
in the context of anything

2400
01:25:26,329 --> 01:25:27,630
lawful

2401
01:25:28,010 --> 01:25:29,340
That's just asking

2402
01:25:29,340 --> 01:25:31,250
I want to win you've
gotta do it I think

2403
01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:32,319
it's going to
be a very

2404
01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:33,979
powerful call for that jury

2405
01:25:33,979 --> 01:25:35,279
NARRATOR

2406
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:38,189
For his part Trump has
defended the phone call with

2407
01:25:38,189 --> 01:25:39,310
Raffensperger

2408
01:25:39,310 --> 01:25:41,860
describing it as perfect

2409
01:25:42,229 --> 01:25:44,930
A 'perfect phone call to
discuss a rigged and stolen

2410
01:25:44,930 --> 01:25:45,569
election

2411
01:25:45,569 --> 01:25:48,430
and what to do about
it with many people including

2412
01:25:48,430 --> 01:25:52,979
lawyers d others knowingly
on the line

2413
01:26:00,649 --> 01:26:02,510
After weeks of
trying to overturn

2414
01:26:02,510 --> 01:26:03,880
the results of the election

2415
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,180
his legal team has come
up with nothing NARRATOR In

2416
01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:08,210
the middle of December 2020

2417
01:26:08,210 --> 01:26:10,520
In the courts where
evidence gets scrutinized

2418
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,250
authenticated

2419
01:26:11,250 --> 01:26:13,520
and tested they're getting hammered

2420
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,880
NARRATOR As the president was
failing in his attempts to

2421
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,699
reverse the election

2422
01:26:17,699 --> 01:26:20,649
All but now ending the
president's attempt to reverse his

2423
01:26:20,649 --> 01:26:23,960
election loss NARRATOR A
new pse began And

2424
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,699
it comes as the electoral
college is set to cast

2425
01:26:26,699 --> 01:26:28,060
their votes for president

2426
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:29,199
tomorrow

2427
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:30,460
On December 14

2428
01:26:30,460 --> 01:26:31,189
2020

2429
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:32,399
the presidential

2430
01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:33,810
election was officially

2431
01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:34,859
over

2432
01:26:34,859 --> 01:26:37,670
The electoral college had
cast its vote

2433
01:26:37,670 --> 01:26:38,680
Joe Biden

2434
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,430
was the president elect
of the United States

2435
01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:44,810
The president has reached the
end of the road

2436
01:26:44,810 --> 01:26:47,279
The electoral college
certified the election

2437
01:26:47,279 --> 01:26:51,069
His legal team and allies
lost more than 50 challenges

2438
01:26:51,069 --> 01:26:54,170
The cases run their course
the electoral college meets

2439
01:26:54,170 --> 01:26:55,670
people are saying no

2440
01:26:55,670 --> 01:26:58,390
So he's running out of
options right The sequence is

2441
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:59,359
increasingly

2442
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:00,659
desperate

2443
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,810
On Friday December 18 his
team of outside advisors

2444
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:06,609
paid him a surprise visit
in the White Hou

2445
01:27:06,609 --> 01:27:08,229
that would quickly become

2446
01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:10,110
the stuff of legend

2447
01:27:10,850 --> 01:27:11,899
This meeting

2448
01:27:11,899 --> 01:27:14,159
is one of the most
extraordinary meetings that ever happened

2449
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:15,619
in that building

2450
01:27:15,619 --> 01:27:18,489
in more than 200
years of history

2451
01:27:18,489 --> 01:27:20,319
Here you had a president
of the United States who

2452
01:27:20,319 --> 01:27:23,390
had lost an election in
the Oval Office being advised

2453
01:27:23,390 --> 01:27:25,189
by a

2454
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:27,500
swarm of colorful characters

2455
01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:29,199
to say the least

2456
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:31,300
NARRATOR At the meeting

2457
01:27:31,300 --> 01:27:34,680
former national security
advisor Michael Flynn

2458
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,460
and attorney Sidney Powell

2459
01:27:36,460 --> 01:27:37,350
by then

2460
01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:40,500
both known for their embrace
of conspiracy theories about the

2461
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:41,800
election

2462
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:45,890
You had people in there

2463
01:27:45,890 --> 01:27:46,750
counseling

2464
01:27:46,750 --> 01:27:47,789
Donald Trump

2465
01:27:47,789 --> 01:27:48,920
that he should

2466
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:49,750
explicitly

2467
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:53,090
order martial law that
he should create

2468
01:27:53,090 --> 01:27:55,090
a special czar

2469
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,579
The person they had in
mind for this was Sidney

2470
01:27:57,579 --> 01:27:58,859
Powell

2471
01:27:58,859 --> 01:27:59,810
that she

2472
01:27:59,810 --> 01:28:03,569
should become the special elections
czar and be empowered

2473
01:28:03,569 --> 01:28:05,170
to use the machinery

2474
01:28:05,170 --> 01:28:06,649
of government itself

2475
01:28:06,649 --> 01:28:08,210
to overturn

2476
01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:09,699
the election

2477
01:28:09,699 --> 01:28:11,850
NARRATOR As word of
the meeting spread

2478
01:28:11,850 --> 01:28:15,909
senior White House lawyers rushed
to the oval office

2479
01:28:15,909 --> 01:28:16,529
including

2480
01:28:16,529 --> 01:28:18,779
White House counsel Pat

2481
01:28:33,069 --> 01:28:34,369
Cipollone

2482
01:28:34,590 --> 01:28:37,029
President Trump's close advisors

2483
01:28:37,180 --> 01:28:38,380
White House Counsel

2484
01:28:38,380 --> 01:28:39,880
Pat Cipollone

2485
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,810
Eric Herschmann advisor
to the president

2486
01:28:42,810 --> 01:28:44,840
and others who were
in that room

2487
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,510
who were saying
to this group

2488
01:28:46,510 --> 01:28:49,000
What evidence do you even
have that there was fraud

2489
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,440
in the election

2490
01:28:50,460 --> 01:28:52,430
NARRATOR The White House
lawyers were insistent

2491
01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:55,539
that the psident shouldn't declare
martial law to overturn the

2492
01:28:55,539 --> 01:28:56,840
election

2493
01:28:56,890 --> 01:28:59,329
or empower Sidney Powell

2494
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,399
At times there were pple
shouting at each other

2495
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:03,670
hurling insults

2496
01:29:03,670 --> 01:29:05,279
at each other

2497
01:29:13,789 --> 01:29:15,550
chuckles The president

2498
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,550
is taking all
of this in

2499
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:42,979
mostly a passive observer in
this meeting but he is

2500
01:29:42,979 --> 01:29:44,810
watching this play out

2501
01:29:44,810 --> 01:29:46,159
His close advisors

2502
01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:47,819
telling his lawyers

2503
01:29:47,819 --> 01:29:49,119
You have no evidence

2504
01:29:49,119 --> 01:29:50,970
that there was fraud
in the election

2505
01:29:50,970 --> 01:29:52,800
And you've lost every case

2506
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,659
Every case you brought in
to court you've lost And

2507
01:29:54,659 --> 01:29:57,300
Sidney Powell says The
judges were corrupt

2508
01:29:57,300 --> 01:29:59,090
That's why we lost

2509
01:29:59,090 --> 01:30:00,239
And Eric Herschmann

2510
01:30:00,239 --> 01:30:01,039
supporter

2511
01:30:01,039 --> 01:30:02,920
close advisor to the president
says What are you talking

2512
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,050
about

2513
01:30:04,050 --> 01:30:05,350
Every case

2514
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:08,010
The judges We appointed many
of those judges You're saying

2515
01:30:08,010 --> 01:30:09,000
they're all corrupt

2516
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,100
Like you people have
nothing you're crazy

2517
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:12,920
I think that it got
to the point where the

2518
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,460
screaming was

2519
01:30:14,460 --> 01:30:15,739
completely

2520
01:30:15,739 --> 01:30:16,909
completely

2521
01:30:16,909 --> 01:30:18,520
out there I mean you
get people walk in it

2522
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,300
was late at night it'd
been a long day and

2523
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:23,110
what they were proposing

2524
01:30:23,579 --> 01:30:25,390
I thought was nuts

2525
01:30:25,670 --> 01:30:27,210
Flynn screamed at me that
I was a quitter and

2526
01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:29,329
everything kept on standing up
and turning around and screaming

2527
01:30:29,329 --> 01:30:30,649
at me

2528
01:30:30,649 --> 01:30:32,989
And at a certain point
I had it with him

2529
01:30:32,989 --> 01:30:35,010
So I yelled back

2530
01:30:35,550 --> 01:30:39,069
Better sit your effing
ass back down

2531
01:30:39,069 --> 01:30:40,079
I'm gonna

2532
01:30:40,079 --> 01:30:42,279
categorically describe it as

2533
01:30:43,659 --> 01:30:46,500
you guys are
not tough enough

2534
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:47,520
Or maybe

2535
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,029
I put it another way
You're a bunch of pussies

2536
01:30:50,029 --> 01:30:51,800
Excuse the expression

2537
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,869
At the end of it
Trump sees that there is

2538
01:30:54,869 --> 01:30:56,069
so much opposition

2539
01:30:56,069 --> 01:30:56,960
including

2540
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,220
from his White House counsel

2541
01:30:59,220 --> 01:31:00,310
He understands

2542
01:31:00,310 --> 01:31:02,770
that people would
very likely resign

2543
01:31:02,770 --> 01:31:03,789
And so

2544
01:31:03,789 --> 01:31:05,810
it seems that he reluctantlyoncludes

2545
01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:10,350
that he's not going
to declare martial law

2546
01:31:10,350 --> 01:31:11,500
NARRATOR Instead

2547
01:31:11,500 --> 01:31:14,859
late that night after the
meeting had broken up

2548
01:31:14,859 --> 01:31:17,239
the president turned to Twitter

2549
01:31:18,250 --> 01:31:18,979
Statistically

2550
01:31:18,979 --> 01:31:19,600
impossible

2551
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,619
to have lost
the 2020 election

2552
01:31:21,619 --> 01:31:24,329
Big protest in D
C on January

2553
01:31:24,329 --> 01:31:25,810
6th Be there

2554
01:31:25,810 --> 01:31:27,600
will be wild

2555
01:31:27,670 --> 01:31:29,140
Twitter chime Dissatisfied

2556
01:31:29,140 --> 01:31:30,449
with his options

2557
01:31:30,449 --> 01:31:32,569
Donald Trump decided to call

2558
01:31:32,569 --> 01:31:35,130
for a large
and wild crowd

2559
01:31:35,130 --> 01:31:37,189
on Wednesday January 6

2560
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:39,289
the day when
Congress would meet

2561
01:31:39,289 --> 01:31:40,199
to certify

2562
01:31:40,199 --> 01:31:42,100
the electoral votes

2563
01:31:43,369 --> 01:31:46,350
While he doesn't actually go
ahead with martial law he

2564
01:31:46,350 --> 01:31:50,609
is embracing a path that
is in fact radical anyway

2565
01:31:50,609 --> 01:31:53,460
He's not using the United
States miliry but he's summoning

2566
01:31:53,460 --> 01:31:55,819
his own army of
supporters to Washington

2567
01:31:55,819 --> 01:31:58,149
some of whom are
known to be extremists

2568
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:59,960
and in some cases violent

2569
01:31:59,960 --> 01:32:00,680
to

2570
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,819
help him stay in office

2571
01:32:02,819 --> 01:32:05,460
over the will
of the voters

2572
01:32:05,460 --> 01:32:06,970
It's Saturday

2573
01:32:06,979 --> 01:32:08,730
December 19

2574
01:32:08,779 --> 01:32:10,069
And one of
the most historic

2575
01:32:10,069 --> 01:32:11,619
events in American

2576
01:32:11,619 --> 01:32:12,310
history

2577
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:13,170
has just

2578
01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:14,649
taken place

2579
01:32:14,649 --> 01:32:17,579
President Trump in the
early morning hours today

2580
01:32:17,579 --> 01:32:20,289
tweeted that he wants
the American people

2581
01:32:20,289 --> 01:32:21,170
to march

2582
01:32:21,170 --> 01:32:23,279
on Washington D C

2583
01:32:23,279 --> 01:32:24,170
on January

2584
01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:25,319
6

2585
01:32:25,319 --> 01:32:25,960
This

2586
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:26,939
wildly

2587
01:32:26,939 --> 01:32:27,779
inflammatory

2588
01:32:27,779 --> 01:32:28,649
tweet

2589
01:32:28,649 --> 01:32:29,649
was a bullhorn

2590
01:32:29,649 --> 01:32:30,930
that immediately

2591
01:32:30,930 --> 01:32:33,619
went out to some
of the more violent

2592
01:32:33,619 --> 01:32:34,789
organized

2593
01:32:34,789 --> 01:32:36,350
Trump supporters

2594
01:32:36,350 --> 01:32:38,159
The Oath Keepers

2595
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:40,329
He called us all to
the Capitol and wants us

2596
01:32:40,329 --> 01:32:42,119
to make it wild

2597
01:32:42,119 --> 01:32:46,149
Gentlemen we are heading to
D C Pack your

2598
01:32:46,149 --> 01:32:47,970
bleep The Proud Boys

2599
01:32:47,970 --> 01:32:49,840
It's all or nothing patriots

2600
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:50,489
Boldness

2601
01:32:50,489 --> 01:32:52,650
and bravery is necessary

2602
01:32:53,989 --> 01:32:56,050
They heard it
as a message

2603
01:32:56,050 --> 01:32:57,369
from their leader

2604
01:32:57,369 --> 01:32:59,230
Come to Washington

2605
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,989
The Will be wild tweet

2606
01:33:02,989 --> 01:33:04,300
was the call

2607
01:33:04,300 --> 01:33:05,630
in a call and response

2608
01:33:05,630 --> 01:33:08,220
They mobilized to come to
Washington These individuals came to

2609
01:33:08,220 --> 01:33:09,300
Washington

2610
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:11,630
because Donald Trump told them
to be there Because Donald

2611
01:33:11,630 --> 01:33:13,619
Trump told them the
election was rigged

2612
01:33:13,619 --> 01:33:15,340
Because Donald Trump told them

2613
01:33:15,340 --> 01:33:18,380
that someone was trying to
take their votes away from

2614
01:33:18,380 --> 01:33:21,529
them and silence their voices
They believed it This could

2615
01:33:21,529 --> 01:33:22,829
be Trump's last

2616
01:33:22,829 --> 01:33:25,789
stand And it's a time
when he has specifically

2617
01:33:25,789 --> 01:33:29,130
called on his supporters to
arrive in D C

2618
01:33:29,130 --> 01:33:31,170
The time for
games is over

2619
01:33:31,170 --> 01:33:33,170
The time for
action is now

2620
01:33:33,170 --> 01:33:36,649
Where were you when history
called Where were you when

2621
01:33:36,649 --> 01:33:38,310
you and your children's destiny

2622
01:33:38,310 --> 01:33:41,989
and future was on
the line NARRATOR

2623
01:33:43,010 --> 01:33:44,279
For prosecutors

2624
01:33:44,279 --> 01:33:45,630
that tweet

2625
01:33:45,630 --> 01:33:47,880
the call to
march on Washington

2626
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,520
represents a crucial step
in Trump's criminal conspiracy

2627
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,510
Jack Smith's theory is that
that was part of the

2628
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:57,779
attempt to obstruct the proceedings

2629
01:33:57,779 --> 01:33:59,820
on January 6

2630
01:34:00,170 --> 01:34:01,689
That Trump wanted

2631
01:34:01,689 --> 01:34:02,760
a large

2632
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,560
at least

2633
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:04,170
boisterous

2634
01:34:04,170 --> 01:34:05,449
if not violent

2635
01:34:05,449 --> 01:34:06,060
crowd

2636
01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:06,890
there

2637
01:34:06,890 --> 01:34:08,260
to interfere

2638
01:34:08,260 --> 01:34:09,630
with the proceedings

2639
01:34:09,630 --> 01:34:11,609
maybe stop them

2640
01:34:11,609 --> 01:34:14,109
put pressure on the people
there And that was one

2641
01:34:14,109 --> 01:34:15,180
component

2642
01:34:15,180 --> 01:34:16,680
of his obstruction

2643
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:17,659
After cultivating

2644
01:34:17,659 --> 01:34:18,279
widespread

2645
01:34:18,279 --> 01:34:21,829
anger and resentment for weeks
with his knowingly false claims

2646
01:34:21,829 --> 01:34:23,210
of election fraud

2647
01:34:23,210 --> 01:34:25,100
the Defendant urged his supporters

2648
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:26,460
to travel to Washington

2649
01:34:26,460 --> 01:34:28,000
on the day
of the certification

2650
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,300
proceeding

2651
01:34:30,210 --> 01:34:32,479
The special counsel is sort
of situating it as this

2652
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:36,409
hinge where things sort of
really start to go wrong

2653
01:34:36,409 --> 01:34:37,180
That

2654
01:34:37,180 --> 01:34:37,840
shows

2655
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,140
that

2656
01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:41,340
this was part
of a plan

2657
01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:44,289
And if they can convince
the jury of th that's

2658
01:34:44,289 --> 01:34:47,359
a huge portion of
the ball game

2659
01:34:47,359 --> 01:34:48,489
NARRATOR In their filings

2660
01:34:48,489 --> 01:34:51,659
Trump's attorneys have argued that
his statements were protected

2661
01:34:51,659 --> 01:34:53,579
by the First Amendment

2662
01:34:53,579 --> 01:34:54,359
The indictment

2663
01:34:54,359 --> 01:34:56,029
therefore attempts to

2664
01:34:56,029 --> 01:34:59,319
criminalize core political speech
and political advocacy

2665
01:34:59,319 --> 01:35:00,250
which is

2666
01:35:00,250 --> 01:35:01,359
categorically impermissible

2667
01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:03,230
under the First Amendment

2668
01:35:03,850 --> 01:35:06,079
There should be room under
the First Amendment and otherwise

2669
01:35:06,079 --> 01:35:08,039
for the president to
say an awful lot

2670
01:35:08,039 --> 01:35:11,380
without having to tag him
with a criminal offense And

2671
01:35:11,380 --> 01:35:12,250
that's why

2672
01:35:12,250 --> 01:35:14,150
there's a First Amendment

2673
01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:16,100
You're given a big

2674
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:17,689
amount of latude

2675
01:35:17,689 --> 01:35:20,119
to say a lot
of wild and crazy

2676
01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:21,119
even stupid

2677
01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:21,949
things

2678
01:35:21,949 --> 01:35:25,000
without having to worry about
somebody afterwards deciding that you

2679
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,810
should be sent to
jail for it

2680
01:35:27,810 --> 01:35:28,800
While prosecuting

2681
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:29,779
the president

2682
01:35:29,779 --> 01:35:31,239
in an electoral context

2683
01:35:31,239 --> 01:35:32,220
is

2684
01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:33,140
new

2685
01:35:33,140 --> 01:35:33,989
prosecuting

2686
01:35:33,989 --> 01:35:35,170
people for electoral

2687
01:35:35,170 --> 01:35:38,819
fraud is not
new at all

2688
01:35:38,819 --> 01:35:40,390
There are burdens of proof

2689
01:35:40,390 --> 01:35:42,630
there are legal tests
there are jury instructions

2690
01:35:42,630 --> 01:35:44,539
and if you can
meet those elements

2691
01:35:44,539 --> 01:35:48,109
then you're outside of the
protection of the First Amendment

2692
01:35:48,109 --> 01:35:49,819
This is not a novel

2693
01:35:49,819 --> 01:35:51,000
legal theory

2694
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,710
here siren

2695
01:36:02,220 --> 01:36:04,659
wailing NARRATOR As
January 6 approached

2696
01:36:04,659 --> 01:36:05,710
Trump refocused

2697
01:36:05,710 --> 01:36:07,720
his efforts closer to home

2698
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,270
at his own
Department of Justice

2699
01:36:10,270 --> 01:36:14,060
Today we'll tell the story
of how the pressure campaign

2700
01:36:14,060 --> 01:36:15,170
also targeted

2701
01:36:15,170 --> 01:36:16,979
the federal agency

2702
01:36:16,979 --> 01:36:18,500
charged with enforcement

2703
01:36:18,500 --> 01:36:20,020
of our laws

2704
01:36:20,020 --> 01:36:22,180
the Department of Justice

2705
01:36:22,949 --> 01:36:25,619
Trump tried to weaponize
the Department of Justice

2706
01:36:25,619 --> 01:36:26,359
against

2707
01:36:26,359 --> 01:36:28,010
our own democracy

2708
01:36:28,449 --> 01:36:30,119
Bill Barr is the first
one to stand up and

2709
01:36:30,119 --> 01:36:32,199
say No I'm not going
to do that He steps

2710
01:36:32,199 --> 01:36:34,100
aside he resigns

2711
01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:37,029
And he's replaced by Jeff
Rosen and Richard Donoghue as

2712
01:36:37,029 --> 01:36:40,180
a sort of tag team
here keyboard keys clacking NARRATOR

2713
01:36:40,180 --> 01:36:41,619
Rosen was a Republican

2714
01:36:41,619 --> 01:36:42,789
political appointee

2715
01:36:42,789 --> 01:36:46,439
who had served
throughout Trump's administration

2716
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:47,210
Donoghue

2717
01:36:47,210 --> 01:36:48,569
also a Republican

2718
01:36:48,569 --> 01:36:51,255
had spent much of his
career as a government lawyer

2719
01:36:51,255 --> 01:36:54,810
in the Army and at
the Department of Justice

2720
01:36:54,810 --> 01:36:56,449
These are folks who were

2721
01:36:56,449 --> 01:36:59,460
appointed by Donald
Trump They are

2722
01:36:59,460 --> 01:37:01,529
aligned with him politically

2723
01:37:02,420 --> 01:37:04,920
Pretty much every day
after Barr left

2724
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,909
Trump would call Jeffrey Rosen
at the Justice Department or

2725
01:37:07,909 --> 01:37:10,979
his deputy Richard Donoghue and
try to put pressure on

2726
01:37:10,979 --> 01:37:11,600
them

2727
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:12,979
to get the department

2728
01:37:12,979 --> 01:37:15,510
to go along with this
narrative that there were serious

2729
01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:19,539
questions about the integrity
of the election

2730
01:37:19,710 --> 01:37:22,010
Mr Donoghue you
had a conversation

2731
01:37:22,010 --> 01:37:23,279
with the president

2732
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:26,199
where he raised false claim
after false claim with you

2733
01:37:26,199 --> 01:37:27,630
and Mr Rosen

2734
01:37:27,630 --> 01:37:28,800
How did you respond

2735
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,909
to what you
called a stream

2736
01:37:30,909 --> 01:37:32,380
of allegations

2737
01:37:32,430 --> 01:37:35,000
I wanted to try to
cut through the noise

2738
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,350
because it was clear to
us that there were a

2739
01:37:36,350 --> 01:37:38,250
lot of people whispering
in his ear

2740
01:37:38,250 --> 01:37:39,680
feeding him these conspiracy

2741
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,470
theories and allegations

2742
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,899
As the president went
through them I went

2743
01:37:43,899 --> 01:37:46,619
piece by piece to say
No that's false that is

2744
01:37:46,619 --> 01:37:49,680
not true And
to correct him

2745
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,109
really in a serial fashion
as he moved from one

2746
01:37:52,109 --> 01:37:53,810
theory to another

2747
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:57,369
How did the president
respond to that sir

2748
01:37:57,369 --> 01:37:59,479
He responded very
quickly and said

2749
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:00,729
essentially

2750
01:38:00,729 --> 01:38:02,270
That's not what I'm asking
you to do What I'm

2751
01:38:02,270 --> 01:38:03,890
just asking you to do
is just say it was

2752
01:38:03,890 --> 01:38:05,979
corrupt and leave the rest
to me and the Republican

2753
01:38:05,979 --> 01:38:07,720
congressmen He's

2754
01:38:12,430 --> 01:38:15,470
saying Don't care about evidence
don't care about facts just

2755
01:38:15,470 --> 01:38:17,170
say this

2756
01:38:17,539 --> 01:38:19,180
And then I'm going to
be able to use

2757
01:38:19,180 --> 01:38:21,880
that to give
people political cover

2758
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,750
to do what I want
them to do which is

2759
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:25,739
to overturn the vote

2760
01:38:26,579 --> 01:38:29,300
I look I think
that's a very

2761
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:30,079
unfortunate

2762
01:38:30,079 --> 01:38:32,670
statement on the on
the president's part

2763
01:38:32,670 --> 01:38:34,829
but it wouldn't be the
first time that a president

2764
01:38:34,829 --> 01:38:38,289
made a a conscious
decision to reject advice

2765
01:38:38,289 --> 01:38:42,210
from his legal advisers including
the Department of Justice

2766
01:38:42,210 --> 01:38:45,199
Is that evidence
of criminal misconduct

2767
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:46,730
Could be

2768
01:38:46,789 --> 01:38:47,800
Could be

2769
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,880
But sorting that out before

2770
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,810
a fair minded jury

2771
01:38:51,810 --> 01:38:54,189
assuming that there's a fair
minded jury is I think

2772
01:38:54,189 --> 01:38:55,750
another question

2773
01:38:56,010 --> 01:38:58,970
NARRATOR As it became clear
Rosen and Donoghue wouldn't go

2774
01:38:58,970 --> 01:39:00,270
along

2775
01:39:00,949 --> 01:39:04,350
Trump looked for
someone who would

2776
01:39:04,350 --> 01:39:07,779
Trump turns to this mid
level Department of Justice employee

2777
01:39:07,779 --> 01:39:09,149
Jeff Clark

2778
01:39:09,149 --> 01:39:11,369
and he says Let's put
him in as the acting

2779
01:39:11,369 --> 01:39:12,980
attorney general

2780
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,170
He had been an environmental

2781
01:39:17,170 --> 01:39:18,470
prosecutor

2782
01:39:20,180 --> 01:39:23,949
Clark's official role has nothing
to do with anything involving

2783
01:39:23,949 --> 01:39:25,369
election fraud

2784
01:39:25,369 --> 01:39:28,550
He had no business at
all being involved in

2785
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:31,380
this NARRATOR Clark drafted a
letter that would claim publicly

2786
01:39:31,380 --> 01:39:33,079
that the department was concerned

2787
01:39:33,079 --> 01:39:34,640
about serious allegations

2788
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,510
of election fraud

2789
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,409
even though his superiors

2790
01:39:38,409 --> 01:39:41,609
had said there was
no such evidence

2791
01:39:41,609 --> 01:39:44,489
That letter of course
was never sent

2792
01:39:44,489 --> 01:39:46,750
Clark tried to push for
it to be sent by

2793
01:39:46,750 --> 01:39:48,880
sort of attempting to dethrone

2794
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,570
acting attorney general Jeffery Rosen

2795
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,000
NARRATOR According to testimony

2796
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,819
and evidence before the committee

2797
01:39:54,819 --> 01:39:57,816
Trump told Clark that he
was going fire Rosen and

2798
01:39:57,816 --> 01:40:00,710
make him the
new attorney general

2799
01:40:00,710 --> 01:40:01,670
Well Clark

2800
01:40:01,670 --> 01:40:02,979
makes an incredibly

2801
01:40:02,979 --> 01:40:03,899
stupid

2802
01:40:03,899 --> 01:40:05,199
mistake

2803
01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:07,140
which is that he tells

2804
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:10,600
Jeffrey Rosen the acting attorney
general that he is going

2805
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,090
to be replaced

2806
01:40:13,210 --> 01:40:15,050
On the on
Sunday the third

2807
01:40:15,050 --> 01:40:16,989
he told me that the
president had offered him the

2808
01:40:16,989 --> 01:40:19,779
job and that he
was accepting it

2809
01:40:19,779 --> 01:40:21,100
Clark tells him

2810
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:23,380
Oh yeah Trump is going
to put me in

2811
01:40:23,380 --> 01:40:24,279
And

2812
01:40:24,279 --> 01:40:25,369
he gives notice

2813
01:40:25,369 --> 01:40:26,960
to his opponents

2814
01:40:27,989 --> 01:40:29,520
That's always a huge mistake

2815
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,029
in Washington or anywhere else

2816
01:40:32,729 --> 01:40:34,029
Well

2817
01:40:34,739 --> 01:40:35,970
you know on the one
hand I wasn't going to

2818
01:40:35,970 --> 01:40:36,819
accept

2819
01:40:36,819 --> 01:40:38,409
being fired by my subordinate

2820
01:40:38,409 --> 01:40:39,229
chuckling So

2821
01:40:39,229 --> 01:40:41,100
I wanted to
talk to the

2822
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:42,500
thpresident directly

2823
01:40:42,770 --> 01:40:45,210
And there was another
crazy White House meeting

2824
01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:47,060
where Rosen

2825
01:40:47,420 --> 01:40:48,720
Donoghue

2826
01:40:48,729 --> 01:40:50,020
meet with

2827
01:40:50,020 --> 01:40:51,239
Clark

2828
01:40:51,239 --> 01:40:52,380
the president

2829
01:40:52,380 --> 01:40:53,909
and other presidential advisors

2830
01:40:53,909 --> 01:40:56,039
in the Oval
Office for hours

2831
01:40:56,039 --> 01:40:58,770
fighting over whether Clark should
be the attorney general

2832
01:40:58,770 --> 01:41:00,840
Jeff Clark was proposing

2833
01:41:01,020 --> 01:41:02,320
that

2834
01:41:03,579 --> 01:41:07,550
Jeff Rosen being replaced
by Jeff Clark

2835
01:41:07,850 --> 01:41:09,150
And

2836
01:41:09,270 --> 01:41:11,590
I thought the proposal was

2837
01:41:12,069 --> 01:41:13,369
asinine

2838
01:41:24,689 --> 01:41:27,890
And when he finished discussing
what he planned on doing

2839
01:41:27,890 --> 01:41:29,579
I said Good

2840
01:41:30,609 --> 01:41:32,970
bleep excuse me sorry
effing a hole

2841
01:41:32,970 --> 01:41:33,760
Congratulations

2842
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,590
you just admitted your first
step or act you take

2843
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:36,710
as attorney general

2844
01:41:36,710 --> 01:41:39,579
would be committing a felony
and violating Rule 6 e

2845
01:41:39,579 --> 01:41:43,430
You're clearly the right
candidate for this job

2846
01:41:51,569 --> 01:41:53,180
Mr Donoghue did

2847
01:41:53,180 --> 01:41:56,470
did you eventually tell the
president that mass resignations

2848
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:58,699
would occur if he installed
Mr Clark and what the

2849
01:41:58,699 --> 01:42:00,220
consequences would be

2850
01:42:00,220 --> 01:42:02,449
I said Mr President within

2851
01:42:02,449 --> 01:42:03,659
24 48

2852
01:42:03,659 --> 01:42:06,364
72 hours you could have
hundreds and hundreds of resignations

2853
01:42:06,364 --> 01:42:09,149
of the leadership of
your entire Justice Department

2854
01:42:09,149 --> 01:42:10,720
because of your actions

2855
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:14,029
What's that going to
say about you

2856
01:42:14,029 --> 01:42:15,319
In the end

2857
01:42:15,319 --> 01:42:16,930
that proves to be enough

2858
01:42:16,930 --> 01:42:19,029
to stop Trump very reluctantly

2859
01:42:19,029 --> 01:42:20,239
very reluctantly

2860
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:23,869
from putting Clark in as
his acting attorney general

2861
01:42:23,869 --> 01:42:26,070
Talk about a close call

2862
01:42:27,140 --> 01:42:31,289
NARRATOR But for the January
6th committee and federal prosecutors

2863
01:42:31,289 --> 01:42:33,550
the pressure on
the Justice Department

2864
01:42:33,550 --> 01:42:36,930
was another part
of the conspiracy

2865
01:42:37,020 --> 01:42:39,409
He's trying to enlist as
part of a scheme

2866
01:42:39,409 --> 01:42:41,739
these officials of
the Justice Department

2867
01:42:41,739 --> 01:42:42,670
Lawyers

2868
01:42:42,670 --> 01:42:45,289
officers of the court people
who have taken an oath

2869
01:42:45,289 --> 01:42:47,460
to uphold the
rule of law

2870
01:42:47,460 --> 01:42:50,640
and they won't go
along with it

2871
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:52,659
The Defendant and co conspirators

2872
01:42:52,659 --> 01:42:55,369
attempted to use the power
and authority of the Justice

2873
01:42:55,369 --> 01:42:56,340
Department

2874
01:42:56,340 --> 01:43:00,539
to conduct sham
election crime investigations

2875
01:43:00,630 --> 01:43:03,350
NARRATOR As with the pressure
on state election officials

2876
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:04,260
Trump's attorneys

2877
01:43:04,260 --> 01:43:07,359
have argued that he was
just doing his job

2878
01:43:07,359 --> 01:43:09,850
Urging his own Department of
Justice to do more to

2879
01:43:09,850 --> 01:43:12,779
enforce the laws that it
is charged with enforcing

2880
01:43:12,779 --> 01:43:13,800
is unquestionably

2881
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,710
an official act of the
president NARRATOR And the president

2882
01:43:16,710 --> 01:43:17,489
is entitled

2883
01:43:17,489 --> 01:43:20,270
to name anyone he wants
as the attorney general

2884
01:43:20,270 --> 01:43:20,979
Deliberating

2885
01:43:20,979 --> 01:43:23,449
about whether to replace the
acting attorney general of the

2886
01:43:23,449 --> 01:43:26,069
United States is also
a core presidential

2887
01:43:26,069 --> 01:43:27,369
function

2888
01:43:28,430 --> 01:43:31,439
Jack Smith has made that
judgment that that has crossed

2889
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,029
over the line
into criminal conduct

2890
01:43:34,029 --> 01:43:35,680
But he is now going
to have to prove that

2891
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:40,159
the president went over that
line whatever that line is

2892
01:43:48,130 --> 01:43:50,939
NARRATOR Having called his supporters
to come to Washington

2893
01:43:50,939 --> 01:43:52,729
on January 6

2894
01:43:52,729 --> 01:43:55,430
Trump turned his attention to
a key player in his

2895
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:57,439
effort to stay in power

2896
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,380
Vice President

2897
01:43:58,380 --> 01:44:00,070
Mike Pence

2898
01:44:00,949 --> 01:44:02,920
Today we're focusing on President

2899
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:03,880
Trump's relentless

2900
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:05,989
effort to pressure Mike Pence

2901
01:44:05,989 --> 01:44:07,840
to refuse to count electoral

2902
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,189
votes on January 6

2903
01:44:10,189 --> 01:44:12,409
The pressure campaign on Vice
President Pence is the last

2904
01:44:12,409 --> 01:44:13,239
gambit

2905
01:44:13,239 --> 01:44:16,050
to keep Trump in power
I mean basically it's the

2906
01:44:16,050 --> 01:44:16,760
last

2907
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,250
lever that they can pull

2908
01:44:18,250 --> 01:44:20,300
to try and
steal the election

2909
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:23,289
NARRATOR It was based on
an obscure legal theory that

2910
01:44:23,289 --> 01:44:26,390
the vice president had the
power to overturn the election

2911
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:27,690
results

2912
01:44:29,029 --> 01:44:30,170
Greg Jacob

2913
01:44:30,170 --> 01:44:33,029
was counsel to
Vice President Pence

2914
01:44:33,029 --> 01:44:35,159
He conducted a thorough analysis

2915
01:44:35,159 --> 01:44:37,060
of the role of
the vice president

2916
01:44:37,060 --> 01:44:38,489
in a joint session

2917
01:44:38,489 --> 01:44:40,890
of Congress under the Constitution

2918
01:44:41,300 --> 01:44:42,369
I now recognize

2919
01:44:42,369 --> 01:44:43,939
the gentleman from California

2920
01:44:43,939 --> 01:44:45,510
Mr Aguilar

2921
01:44:45,989 --> 01:44:48,699
Mr Jacob did you go
to the vice president's residences

2922
01:44:48,699 --> 01:44:51,050
on the morning
of January 6

2923
01:44:51,050 --> 01:44:52,350
Yes

2924
01:44:52,619 --> 01:44:54,520
And did theice president have
a call with the president

2925
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:55,470
that morning

2926
01:44:55,470 --> 01:44:56,850
He did

2927
01:44:56,850 --> 01:44:58,939
We were told that a
call had come in from

2928
01:44:58,939 --> 01:45:00,329
the president

2929
01:45:01,180 --> 01:45:03,770
The vice president stepped out
of the room to take

2930
01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:07,560
that call and no
staff went with him

2931
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,640
The president had
several family members

2932
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:10,680
with him

2933
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,229
for that call

2934
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:14,229
I'd like to show you
what they and others told

2935
01:45:14,229 --> 01:45:15,340
the select committee

2936
01:45:15,340 --> 01:45:16,680
about that call

2937
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,979
along with never before seen
photographs of the president

2938
01:45:19,979 --> 01:45:21,100
on that call

2939
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:23,039
from the National Archives

2940
01:45:24,649 --> 01:45:26,199
When I entered

2941
01:45:26,199 --> 01:45:28,529
the office the second time

2942
01:45:28,529 --> 01:45:29,840
he was

2943
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,010
on the telephone with who
I later found out to

2944
01:45:32,010 --> 01:45:33,859
be was the
the vice president

2945
01:45:33,859 --> 01:45:36,010
Could you hear the vice
president or only hear the

2946
01:45:36,010 --> 01:45:37,310
president's end

2947
01:45:37,310 --> 01:45:39,260
Only hear the president's end
And at some point it

2948
01:45:39,260 --> 01:45:40,720
started off

2949
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,260
as a calmer tone

2950
01:45:42,260 --> 01:45:44,090
and then it became heated

2951
01:45:44,140 --> 01:45:46,880
Donald Trump is focused
on this idea

2952
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:47,529
that

2953
01:45:47,529 --> 01:45:50,409
Pence wielding the gavel
on January 6

2954
01:45:50,409 --> 01:45:53,380
can single handedly overturn the
election because he was presiding

2955
01:45:53,380 --> 01:45:54,579
over this final

2956
01:45:54,579 --> 01:45:55,369
certification

2957
01:45:55,369 --> 01:45:57,340
of the electoral votes

2958
01:45:57,340 --> 01:45:58,140
The conversation

2959
01:45:58,140 --> 01:45:58,760
was

2960
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:00,060
was

2961
01:46:00,380 --> 01:46:01,930
pretty heated

2962
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:03,909
It's an extraordinary

2963
01:46:03,909 --> 01:46:04,760
thing

2964
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,909
a president pressuring a vice
president this way insulting

2965
01:46:07,909 --> 01:46:09,930
him that way a person
who had been nothing but

2966
01:46:09,930 --> 01:46:12,039
loyal to him
through all those

2967
01:46:12,039 --> 01:46:13,779
all those months and years

2968
01:46:13,779 --> 01:46:16,319
Did Ms Trump share with
you any more details about

2969
01:46:16,319 --> 01:46:17,430
what happened

2970
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:18,920
Her dad

2971
01:46:18,979 --> 01:46:21,880
had just had
an upsetting conversation

2972
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,939
with the vice president

2973
01:46:23,939 --> 01:46:26,439
It was a different
tone than I'd heard

2974
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:27,329
him take with

2975
01:46:27,329 --> 01:46:30,560
the vice president before Iean
I think she was

2976
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:31,359
uncomfortable

2977
01:46:31,359 --> 01:46:33,319
over the fact that there
was obviously that type of

2978
01:46:33,319 --> 01:46:35,630
interaction between the
two of them

2979
01:46:35,630 --> 01:46:38,140
The word at she relayed
to you that the

2980
01:46:38,140 --> 01:46:40,050
president called the vice president

2981
01:46:40,050 --> 01:46:40,739
I

2982
01:46:40,739 --> 01:46:43,500
apologize for being impolite but
do you rememr what she

2983
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:44,100
said

2984
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:45,369
her father called

2985
01:46:45,369 --> 01:46:46,319
him

2986
01:46:46,319 --> 01:46:48,039
The P word

2987
01:46:50,649 --> 01:46:51,449
Trump

2988
01:46:51,449 --> 01:46:54,659
told Pence You
have a choice

2989
01:46:54,659 --> 01:46:56,189
You can either
be a patriot

2990
01:46:56,189 --> 01:46:59,239
or you can
be a pussy

2991
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:00,739
Patriot

2992
01:47:00,739 --> 01:47:02,039
means

2993
01:47:02,539 --> 01:47:04,510
turn the election
over to me

2994
01:47:04,510 --> 01:47:07,550
Being a pussy
means being afraid

2995
01:47:07,550 --> 01:47:09,310
to use your power

2996
01:47:10,710 --> 01:47:12,779
Mr Jacob how
would you describe

2997
01:47:12,779 --> 01:47:15,149
the demeanor of the vice
president following the call with

2998
01:47:15,149 --> 01:47:16,539
the president

2999
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:20,109
When he came back
into the room

3000
01:47:20,109 --> 01:47:22,130
I'd say that he was

3001
01:47:22,130 --> 01:47:23,430
steely

3002
01:47:23,460 --> 01:47:24,760
determined

3003
01:47:25,069 --> 01:47:26,369
grim

3004
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,850
NARRATOR In almost four years

3005
01:47:31,850 --> 01:47:33,310
it was the first serious

3006
01:47:33,310 --> 01:47:36,060
break between Pence and Trump

3007
01:47:37,449 --> 01:47:39,000
Donald Trump had every expectation

3008
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,680
that he would go along
with him on this

3009
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,460
Why wouldn't he He'd done
everything else up until now

3010
01:47:46,460 --> 01:47:48,489
Pence is a vice
president who has been

3011
01:47:48,489 --> 01:47:49,310
exceedingly

3012
01:47:49,310 --> 01:47:51,060
loyal to Trump

3013
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:52,760
for three years

3014
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,500
11 months and
however many days

3015
01:47:54,500 --> 01:47:56,409
Mike Pence never

3016
01:47:56,409 --> 01:47:58,569
ever broke with the president

3017
01:47:58,569 --> 01:48:02,760
NARRATOR Now Pence had to
make a critical decision

3018
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,279
Pence had just a clear
conflict between what Trump wanted

3019
01:48:05,279 --> 01:48:06,229
him to do

3020
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:07,710
and what the Constitution

3021
01:48:07,710 --> 01:48:09,800
and the rule of law
required him to do I

3022
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,350
thk he managed to navigate
those conflicts in various ways

3023
01:48:12,350 --> 01:48:14,359
over four years Not always
in my view in the

3024
01:48:14,359 --> 01:48:15,640
right way

3025
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:19,789
But this was such
a blatant transgression

3026
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:20,520
NARRATOR

3027
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,000
Pivotal to the plan

3028
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:23,369
was this man

3029
01:48:23,369 --> 01:48:24,960
John Eastman

3030
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,449
Here's this law professor

3031
01:48:28,050 --> 01:48:29,789
a member of the

3032
01:48:31,670 --> 01:48:34,000
Federalists His role
was to provide

3033
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:34,720
a

3034
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:36,199
sort of a pseudo intellectual

3035
01:48:36,199 --> 01:48:37,170
cover

3036
01:48:37,170 --> 01:48:39,170
for legal arguments

3037
01:48:40,050 --> 01:48:41,550
And he manufactures

3038
01:48:41,550 --> 01:48:42,279
this

3039
01:48:42,279 --> 01:48:44,289
theory of the
vice president's power

3040
01:48:44,289 --> 01:48:46,329
that bas that says that
the vice president of the

3041
01:48:46,329 --> 01:48:48,816
United States is the ultimate
arbiter on January 6 those

3042
01:48:48,816 --> 01:48:50,979
were his words
the ultimate arbiter

3043
01:48:50,979 --> 01:48:52,539
And Trump fully endorses

3044
01:48:52,539 --> 01:48:54,020
Eastman's plan

3045
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:57,119
Well John Eastman

3046
01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:00,439
was one of
my law clerks

3047
01:49:01,310 --> 01:49:04,460
Perhaps 20 25 years ago

3048
01:49:05,770 --> 01:49:07,579
I was greatly concerned

3049
01:49:07,579 --> 01:49:11,939
that John had given the
advice that he had given

3050
01:49:11,939 --> 01:49:13,840
Judge J Michael Luttig

3051
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,829
is one of
the leading conservative

3052
01:49:15,829 --> 01:49:18,180
legal thinkers in the country

3053
01:49:18,180 --> 01:49:20,119
He's served in administrations

3054
01:49:20,119 --> 01:49:22,060
of President Ronald Reagan

3055
01:49:22,060 --> 01:49:25,750
and George H W
Bush Judge Luttig

3056
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:28,000
had a kind
of moral authority

3057
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:29,300
within

3058
01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:31,470
the conservative community

3059
01:49:32,109 --> 01:49:34,710
A guy himself who had
been short listed for the

3060
01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:36,360
Supreme Court

3061
01:49:36,630 --> 01:49:39,300
Was on a first name
basis with members of the

3062
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:40,980
Supreme Court

3063
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,250
Judge Luttig I had the
incredible honor of serving as

3064
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:46,029
one of your law clerks

3065
01:49:46,029 --> 01:49:47,850
Another person who did

3066
01:49:47,850 --> 01:49:49,360
was John Eastman

3067
01:49:49,890 --> 01:49:52,460
And you've written
that Dr Eastman's

3068
01:49:52,460 --> 01:49:53,350
theory

3069
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:54,149
is

3070
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:55,640
in your words

3071
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:56,529
Incorrect

3072
01:49:56,529 --> 01:49:58,420
at every turn

3073
01:49:58,670 --> 01:50:00,000
Mr Eastman

3074
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,590
said to the president

3075
01:50:01,590 --> 01:50:02,949
that there was both

3076
01:50:02,949 --> 01:50:03,930
legal

3077
01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:05,770
as well as historical

3078
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:07,900
precedent

3079
01:50:08,590 --> 01:50:10,489
for the vice president

3080
01:50:10,489 --> 01:50:11,590
to overturn

3081
01:50:11,590 --> 01:50:13,090
the election

3082
01:50:13,899 --> 01:50:15,539
This is Constitutional

3083
01:50:15,539 --> 01:50:16,840
mischief

3084
01:50:18,119 --> 01:50:20,659
I would have
laid my body

3085
01:50:20,659 --> 01:50:22,680
across the road before

3086
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,090
I would have let

3087
01:50:24,090 --> 01:50:25,909
the vice president

3088
01:50:26,260 --> 01:50:28,230
overturn the 2020

3089
01:50:28,529 --> 01:50:29,829
election

3090
01:50:30,199 --> 01:50:31,560
I diagrammed

3091
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:32,680
his

3092
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:33,920
uh his

3093
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,989
his legal analysis

3094
01:50:36,079 --> 01:50:38,210
from beginning to end

3095
01:50:38,210 --> 01:50:39,500
and concluded

3096
01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:40,770
that we was wrong

3097
01:50:40,770 --> 01:50:42,100
at every

3098
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,319
every turn of his analysis

3099
01:50:44,319 --> 01:50:46,579
every turn of his thinking

3100
01:50:48,279 --> 01:50:49,170
Judge Luttig

3101
01:50:49,170 --> 01:50:51,739
you wrote that the efforts
by President Trump to overturn

3102
01:50:51,739 --> 01:50:53,239
the 2020 election

3103
01:50:53,239 --> 01:50:54,159
were

3104
01:50:54,159 --> 01:50:56,270
the most reckless insidious

3105
01:50:56,270 --> 01:50:58,590
and calamitous failures
in both legal

3106
01:50:58,590 --> 01:50:59,979
and political judgement

3107
01:50:59,979 --> 01:51:01,800
in American history

3108
01:51:02,220 --> 01:51:05,229
What did you
mean by that

3109
01:51:05,229 --> 01:51:06,949
Exactly what I said

3110
01:51:06,949 --> 01:51:08,250
Congressman

3111
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:09,900
NARRATOR

3112
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,949
White House lawyers had also
warned about Eastman's theories

3113
01:51:14,949 --> 01:51:16,720
But Trump persisted

3114
01:51:16,750 --> 01:51:20,380
summoning the vice president
to the Oval Office

3115
01:51:20,380 --> 01:51:22,159
The Eastman plan

3116
01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:25,609
It was the last
option for Donald Trump

3117
01:51:25,609 --> 01:51:27,619
January 4 2021

3118
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,109
In the Oval Office

3119
01:51:30,109 --> 01:51:31,289
John Eastman

3120
01:51:31,289 --> 01:51:33,020
President Trump

3121
01:51:33,020 --> 01:51:35,649
they pull Vice
President Pence in

3122
01:51:35,649 --> 01:51:40,630
He's joined by his aides
Greg Jacob and Marc Short

3123
01:51:41,140 --> 01:51:44,020
Trump says to Pence
in front of others

3124
01:51:44,020 --> 01:51:47,039
You have to now
listen to John Eastman

3125
01:51:47,039 --> 01:51:49,399
you have to follow
the Eastman plan

3126
01:51:49,399 --> 01:51:50,140
object

3127
01:51:50,140 --> 01:51:51,659
to the certification

3128
01:51:51,739 --> 01:51:53,810
It's a pressure campaign

3129
01:51:55,180 --> 01:51:56,500
Pence says to Trump

3130
01:51:56,500 --> 01:51:58,520
I'm going to do what
I can Mr President I

3131
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:00,029
want to help you out

3132
01:52:00,029 --> 01:52:02,239
but I'm listening to my
lawyers He turns to Greg

3133
01:52:02,239 --> 01:52:02,840
Jacob

3134
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,500
his advisors and he says
They're telling me I can't

3135
01:52:05,500 --> 01:52:07,029
do it

3136
01:52:08,109 --> 01:52:10,800
I can't do it
it's not constitutional

3137
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:11,890
it's not legal

3138
01:52:11,890 --> 01:52:16,649
Trump says You can do
it listen to John

3139
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:18,760
Mr Jacob

3140
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,159
during that meeting between the
president and the vice president

3141
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:24,869
what theories did Dr Eastman
present regarding the role of

3142
01:52:24,869 --> 01:52:28,090
the vice president in
counting the electoral votes

3143
01:52:28,090 --> 01:52:29,739
So during that meeting

3144
01:52:29,739 --> 01:52:31,350
on the fourth

3145
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:32,390
I think I

3146
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:33,600
raised

3147
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:34,350
the problem

3148
01:52:34,350 --> 01:52:35,310
that

3149
01:52:35,310 --> 01:52:36,920
Mr Eastman's proposals

3150
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:38,899
would violate several provisions

3151
01:52:38,899 --> 01:52:39,710
of the Electoral

3152
01:52:39,710 --> 01:52:41,229
Count Act

3153
01:52:41,229 --> 01:52:42,500
Mr Eastman acknowledged

3154
01:52:42,500 --> 01:52:44,570
that that was the case

3155
01:52:46,460 --> 01:52:48,329
Pence turns to Trump and
says Are you listening to

3156
01:52:48,329 --> 01:52:50,170
this Do you hear this

3157
01:52:50,170 --> 01:52:52,920
But Trump isn't listening to
that he just he's banging

3158
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,329
away on Pence

3159
01:52:54,329 --> 01:52:56,250
You are the guy who's
going to keep us in

3160
01:52:56,250 --> 01:52:57,550
power

3161
01:52:58,380 --> 01:52:59,680
siren

3162
01:53:00,739 --> 01:53:02,930
blaring NARRATOR Pence stood firm

3163
01:53:03,500 --> 01:53:06,199
This is a man who
has been so loyal for

3164
01:53:06,199 --> 01:53:07,399
so long

3165
01:53:07,399 --> 01:53:09,369
but I think at the
end of the day Mike

3166
01:53:09,369 --> 01:53:11,960
Pence knew that he
s going to uphold

3167
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,380
the Constitution

3168
01:53:13,989 --> 01:53:14,670
And

3169
01:53:14,670 --> 01:53:17,479
he knew that he had
no power to overturn and

3170
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:20,329
do the things that
the president was saying

3171
01:53:20,329 --> 01:53:21,319
The

3172
01:53:21,319 --> 01:53:24,850
choice Mike Pence was facing
was not really a choice

3173
01:53:24,850 --> 01:53:27,270
He had no choice
to do anything other

3174
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:30,369
than count the votes
that took place

3175
01:53:30,369 --> 01:53:33,529
But at this point Donald
Trump had surrounded himself

3176
01:53:33,529 --> 01:53:34,149
with

3177
01:53:34,149 --> 01:53:37,289
people who were feeding him
more and more nonsense

3178
01:53:37,289 --> 01:53:38,840
about how this process

3179
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,140
worked

3180
01:53:40,369 --> 01:53:42,260
It was just another situation

3181
01:53:42,260 --> 01:53:44,500
of the president creating
his own reality

3182
01:53:44,500 --> 01:53:48,050
deciding things that can
happen that simply can't

3183
01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:50,420
and set Mike Pence up
for the fall in a

3184
01:53:50,420 --> 01:53:52,659
way that he had really
no choice in what to

3185
01:53:52,659 --> 01:53:53,960
do

3186
01:53:56,939 --> 01:53:59,739
NARRATOR The pressure on
Pence figures prominently

3187
01:53:59,739 --> 01:54:01,960
in the indictment of Trump

3188
01:54:02,350 --> 01:54:03,920
The Defendant and co

3189
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,420
conspirators attempted to enlist
the vice president

3190
01:54:06,420 --> 01:54:07,579
to use his ceremonial

3191
01:54:07,579 --> 01:54:09,159
role at the January

3192
01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:10,630
6 certification proceeding

3193
01:54:10,630 --> 01:54:11,470
to fraudulently

3194
01:54:11,470 --> 01:54:13,699
alter the election results

3195
01:54:14,010 --> 01:54:15,189
NARRATOR John Eastman

3196
01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:16,930
is listed as one of

3197
01:54:16,930 --> 01:54:18,779
the unindicted co conspirators

3198
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:21,600
though he still defends

3199
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:25,039
the advice he
gave the president

3200
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:26,300
Trump's interactions

3201
01:54:26,300 --> 01:54:28,949
with Pence direct and
indirect are crucial

3202
01:54:28,949 --> 01:54:31,470
They really go to showing
that part of the way

3203
01:54:31,470 --> 01:54:32,989
he obstructed justice

3204
01:54:32,989 --> 01:54:34,229
was trying to wrongfully

3205
01:54:34,229 --> 01:54:34,840
pressure

3206
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:36,800
Pence who had
an official task

3207
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,130
not to undertake that task

3208
01:54:40,510 --> 01:54:42,989
Is the ct that Donald
Trump asked him to do

3209
01:54:42,989 --> 01:54:44,000
that

3210
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,140
is is that criminal

3211
01:54:46,180 --> 01:54:48,420
Again I think you've got
to be really careful there

3212
01:54:48,420 --> 01:54:51,670
I don't think that's something
you want to make criminal

3213
01:54:51,670 --> 01:54:53,560
you know on its own

3214
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,199
The mere ask to say
you know I want you

3215
01:54:56,199 --> 01:54:58,659
to not certify the results

3216
01:54:58,739 --> 01:55:00,000
It doesn't necessarily

3217
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,859
mean that it was a
violation of the criminal

3218
01:55:01,859 --> 01:55:04,630
law It depends on context
and whatever other evidence the

3219
01:55:04,630 --> 01:55:06,250
government has

3220
01:55:07,090 --> 01:55:09,380
Whether or not a particular
act that the president is

3221
01:55:09,380 --> 01:55:11,029
alleged to have engaged in

3222
01:55:11,029 --> 01:55:12,600
is in and of itself

3223
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:13,420
a crime

3224
01:55:13,420 --> 01:55:15,819
isn't really going to be
the question at that trial

3225
01:55:15,819 --> 01:55:18,000
It's going to be whether
that act was in furtherance

3226
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:19,970
of a criminal objective

3227
01:55:21,329 --> 01:55:22,949
All of these acts

3228
01:55:22,949 --> 01:55:25,550
all of the things that
we've been talking about they

3229
01:55:25,550 --> 01:55:27,409
don't have to be illegal
in and of themselves

3230
01:55:27,409 --> 01:55:28,710
The

3231
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:29,579
crime

3232
01:55:29,579 --> 01:55:31,069
is a conspiracy

3233
01:55:31,069 --> 01:55:33,190
to defraud the United States

3234
01:55:42,109 --> 01:55:43,510
There's a

3235
01:55:45,260 --> 01:55:46,510
lot of anticipation

3236
01:55:46,510 --> 01:55:49,210
for today's hearings The committee
says it will present newly

3237
01:55:49,210 --> 01:55:51,960
obtained evidence and testimony NARRATOR
In the midst of the

3238
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:52,819
Jaary

3239
01:55:52,819 --> 01:55:54,140
6th committee's hearings

3240
01:55:54,140 --> 01:55:56,510
a dramatic moment Live testimony

3241
01:55:56,510 --> 01:55:59,300
from a White House advisor
who was right there in

3242
01:55:59,300 --> 01:56:01,210
the West Wing on January

3243
01:56:01,210 --> 01:56:03,310
6 NARRATOR A surprise witness

3244
01:56:03,310 --> 01:56:04,439
During the Watergate

3245
01:56:04,439 --> 01:56:07,029
hearings there was only
one surprise witness

3246
01:56:07,029 --> 01:56:08,390
it was Alexander Butterfield

3247
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:11,510
while in the January 6
hearings the surprise witness is

3248
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:13,020
Cassidy Hutchinson

3249
01:56:13,020 --> 01:56:15,380
NARRATOR Cassidy Hutchinson a 25

3250
01:56:15,380 --> 01:56:17,820
year old White House staffer

3251
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,109
The most intimidating

3252
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:22,010
thing is all those cameras
sitting one foot from her

3253
01:56:22,010 --> 01:56:24,100
face taking pictures of her

3254
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:26,110
camera flash pops This

3255
01:56:29,170 --> 01:56:30,659
is a young woman

3256
01:56:30,659 --> 01:56:31,819
standing

3257
01:56:31,819 --> 01:56:32,859
in

3258
01:56:32,859 --> 01:56:34,760
a setting that could

3259
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:36,960
almost feel amphitheatrical

3260
01:56:43,550 --> 01:56:47,050
I was with Cassidy on
the day of her testimony

3261
01:56:47,050 --> 01:56:50,020
During it I'm
sitting behind her

3262
01:56:50,020 --> 01:56:51,310
She was incredibly

3263
01:56:51,310 --> 01:56:52,199
nervous

3264
01:56:52,199 --> 01:56:53,659
I think like any

3265
01:56:53,659 --> 01:56:56,090
normal person would be
to do this

3266
01:56:56,090 --> 01:56:58,119
There was a
time beforehand where

3267
01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:00,380
she wanted to back out

3268
01:57:00,659 --> 01:57:02,720
Because it was really scary

3269
01:57:02,899 --> 01:57:04,050
to go up against

3270
01:57:04,050 --> 01:57:05,899
the president of
the United States

3271
01:57:05,899 --> 01:57:07,380
and speak the truth

3272
01:57:07,380 --> 01:57:08,539
is

3273
01:57:08,539 --> 01:57:10,329
something that only

3274
01:57:10,329 --> 01:57:12,409
a few people will know

3275
01:57:13,609 --> 01:57:16,329
She was a
hardcore Trump loyalist

3276
01:57:16,329 --> 01:57:18,489
And she's getting ready to

3277
01:57:18,489 --> 01:57:19,430
destroy

3278
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:20,329
the tribe

3279
01:57:20,329 --> 01:57:22,760
that she gets her identity
from I've been there right

3280
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,439
I've been in that moment

3281
01:57:24,439 --> 01:57:26,210
It was pretty awe inspiring
to be quite honest with

3282
01:57:26,210 --> 01:57:27,039
you

3283
01:57:27,039 --> 01:57:30,909
I will now swear
in our witness

3284
01:57:30,909 --> 01:57:31,720
Knowing

3285
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:32,390
how

3286
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:34,770
Trump had become so intimidating

3287
01:57:34,770 --> 01:57:37,829
a person for people
who crossed him

3288
01:57:37,829 --> 01:57:40,039
and this one young woman

3289
01:57:40,039 --> 01:57:42,199
doing what so many other

3290
01:57:42,199 --> 01:57:44,399
much older frequently male staffers

3291
01:57:44,399 --> 01:57:45,529
wouldn't do

3292
01:57:45,529 --> 01:57:47,439
which is come
forward and testifying

3293
01:57:47,439 --> 01:57:48,130
truthfully

3294
01:57:48,130 --> 01:57:50,500
under oath the whole truth
and nothing but the truth

3295
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:52,310
so help you God

3296
01:57:52,409 --> 01:57:55,989
inaudible Thank you you
may be seated

3297
01:57:55,989 --> 01:57:56,789
NARRATOR

3298
01:57:56,789 --> 01:57:58,329
Inside the White House

3299
01:57:58,329 --> 01:58:00,829
Hutchinson had been a top
aide to Trump's chief of

3300
01:58:00,829 --> 01:58:02,930
staff Mark Meadows

3301
01:58:03,399 --> 01:58:06,010
and in the room during
key events the committee was

3302
01:58:06,010 --> 01:58:07,310
investigating

3303
01:58:08,619 --> 01:58:11,640
Hutchinson was a crucial witness
in terms of helping

3304
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:12,250
to

3305
01:58:12,250 --> 01:58:14,180
shine a light on the
president's state of mind because

3306
01:58:14,180 --> 01:58:14,800
so

3307
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:15,789
few people

3308
01:58:15,789 --> 01:58:16,590
were

3309
01:58:16,590 --> 01:58:20,350
capable of doing that
NARRATOR Hutchinson revealed details

3310
01:58:20,350 --> 01:58:24,460
about Trump's plans
for January 6

3311
01:58:24,460 --> 01:58:27,409
On January 2 four days
before the attack on our

3312
01:58:27,409 --> 01:58:28,340
Capitol

3313
01:58:28,340 --> 01:58:30,149
President Trump's lead lawyer

3314
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:31,119
Mr Giuliani

3315
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:34,020
was meeting with White House
chief of staff Mark Meadows

3316
01:58:34,020 --> 01:58:35,140
and others

3317
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:38,399
Ms Hutchinson we understand that
you walked Mr Giuliani

3318
01:58:38,399 --> 01:58:40,680
out of the White
House that night

3319
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:42,739
and he talked to you
about January 6 What do

3320
01:58:42,739 --> 01:58:44,690
you remember him saying

3321
01:58:44,739 --> 01:58:47,210
As Mr Giuliani and I
were walking to his vehicles

3322
01:58:47,210 --> 01:58:48,619
that evening

3323
01:58:48,619 --> 01:58:49,239
he

3324
01:58:49,239 --> 01:58:51,850
looked at me and said
something to the effect of

3325
01:58:51,850 --> 01:58:53,310
Cass are you excited

3326
01:58:53,310 --> 01:58:54,319
for the sixth

3327
01:58:54,319 --> 01:58:56,250
It's going to be
a great day

3328
01:58:56,250 --> 01:58:57,159
I member

3329
01:58:57,159 --> 01:58:59,970
looking at him saying
Rudy could you explain

3330
01:58:59,970 --> 01:59:02,070
what's happening on the sixth

3331
01:59:02,329 --> 01:59:05,489
And he had responded something
to the effect of We're

3332
01:59:05,489 --> 01:59:06,850
going to the Capitol

3333
01:59:06,850 --> 01:59:08,460
It's going to be great

3334
01:59:08,460 --> 01:59:10,510
The president's going to be
there He's going to look

3335
01:59:10,510 --> 01:59:11,810
powerful

3336
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:15,640
She clearly had nothing to
gain by doing it She

3337
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:17,850
was telling the truth
as she saw it

3338
01:59:17,850 --> 01:59:18,869
This poised

3339
01:59:18,869 --> 01:59:20,000
composed

3340
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:21,159
young woman

3341
01:59:21,159 --> 01:59:23,810
with no obvious axe to
grind as she's telling her

3342
01:59:23,810 --> 01:59:24,670
story

3343
01:59:24,670 --> 01:59:26,810
it's the most powerful moment
I think in the entire

3344
01:59:26,810 --> 01:59:28,110
hearings

3345
01:59:28,609 --> 01:59:31,300
And I found Mr Meadows
in his office scrolling through

3346
01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:32,189
his phone

3347
01:59:32,189 --> 01:59:34,819
I remember leaning against
the doorway and saying

3348
01:59:34,819 --> 01:59:37,979
I just had an interesting
conversation with Rudy Mark It

3349
01:59:37,979 --> 01:59:40,550
sounds like we're going to
go to the Capitol

3350
01:59:40,550 --> 01:59:43,130
He didn't look up from
his phone and said something

3351
01:59:43,130 --> 01:59:44,770
to the effect of

3352
01:59:44,770 --> 01:59:46,550
There's a lot
going on Cass

3353
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:47,239
but

3354
01:59:47,239 --> 01:59:48,649
I don't know

3355
01:59:48,649 --> 01:59:53,510
things might get real real
bad on January 6

3356
01:59:55,229 --> 01:59:55,657
crowd chanting U S A
U S A U S

3357
01:59:55,657 --> 01:59:57,600
A Tensions are running high

3358
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,819
30 000 supporters of the
present are gathering right now

3359
01:59:59,819 --> 02:00:03,164
They're having what they're calling
a Stop the Steal rally

3360
02:00:03,164 --> 02:00:05,510
NARRATOR And on January 6

3361
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:06,149
Hutchinson

3362
02:00:06,149 --> 02:00:07,159
was in the president's

3363
02:00:07,159 --> 02:00:08,720
inner circle

3364
02:00:08,739 --> 02:00:11,289
I think the campaign is
aware that January 6 would

3365
02:00:11,289 --> 02:00:13,000
be the last stand

3366
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,170
Once that certification

3367
02:00:14,170 --> 02:00:15,899
happens on the sixth

3368
02:00:15,899 --> 02:00:18,029
that it's really over

3369
02:00:18,090 --> 02:00:19,390
siren

3370
02:00:21,739 --> 02:00:22,880
blaring Miss Hutchinson

3371
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:24,739
did you go
to the rally

3372
02:00:24,739 --> 02:00:26,720
in the presidential motorcade

3373
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:28,880
I I was there yes

3374
02:00:29,149 --> 02:00:30,439
siren blaring

3375
02:00:30,439 --> 02:00:32,460
And were you backstage

3376
02:00:32,460 --> 02:00:34,550
with the president and other
members of his staff and

3377
02:00:34,550 --> 02:00:35,560
family

3378
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,359
I was NARRATOR It

3379
02:00:37,359 --> 02:00:38,970
was in the tent backstage

3380
02:00:38,970 --> 02:00:39,739
that Hutchinson

3381
02:00:39,739 --> 02:00:43,470
heard crucial evidence of what
Trump knew about the potential

3382
02:00:43,470 --> 02:00:45,789
for violence that day

3383
02:00:45,930 --> 02:00:47,920
on video When we
were in the fstage

3384
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:48,520
announce

3385
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:50,739
area tent behind the stage

3386
02:00:50,739 --> 02:00:52,960
he was very concerned about

3387
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,000
the shots

3388
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,250
meaning the photographs that we
would get because the rally

3389
02:00:56,250 --> 02:00:58,140
space wasn't full

3390
02:00:58,359 --> 02:01:01,784
The former president was unhappy
with the crowd se