i still. i hope that the discussion of good russians and bad russians will be completed with a short conclusion that a good russian. or just a muscovite is a dead muscovite, and they are bad from birth and you shouldn’t talk about them at all. but for us. there is no such thing that someone is bad from birth and yes-yes-yes that's why listening to all these ghouls and not no people. you can’t become them, you can’t turn into what a significant part of people in ukraine have turned into who are not in the war zone people who every day they do something like this on the streets. this is for those of you who have a question, who and from what needs to be saved, you need to save this country and the people of this country from this middle ages, which crawled out of all the cracks. and that's a big question. is it now that it has climbed because of the hostilities of deprivation and

suffering, or has it always been there, and now there is a reason to make it the norm. we will also talk about this, but in order to change all this, we must first complete the work that the guys are doing there now. now let's talk with andrei vitalievich, marochka. andrey vitalyevich, a representative of the people's militia of lugansk , i wish you good health, how are you continuing to work on the liberation of the territory? please wish ukraine artyom good afternoon studio. well, first of all. i am ready to subscribe to your every word at the beginning of the program. it's true, and it's true. we are now doing what you , uh, were talking about. for us. it's really very difficult to remain human in the conditions in which we find ourselves, but at the same time, uh, all of our military personnel. eh, they keep a cool head and do not

give free rein to feelings, because if you gave free rein to feelings in battle, then you died. this was still taught to me in the special unit, and i brought it to my e, subordinates, and now most of the people's militia units are operating, no more feelings, we are doing our work in cold blood, freeing us from the ukrainian wickedness of our land. now there are a lot of disputes and information is coming from the ukrainian side that the territory of the luhansk people's republic has not been liberated from what we are claiming. uh, just recently gauleiter, gaidai e, said that we orcs mail are lying about some 93% freed from e ukrainian invaders. well, in order to sort of dispel all doubts, and to say that the data provided by the general staff of the russian

federation are true in the background. i have a map of the luhansk people's republic. and in order, let's say, to show a comrade gaidai that he is friends with arithmetic, this piece of terrain. this is this area terrain. on this entire territory, if he applies a curvimeter and counts the entire territory of the luhansk region, then exactly 93% of the liberated territory is obtained, which were announced at the general staff. e, russian federation i also want to say that e are local gauleiters. uh, now they are giving out a lot of fakes about settlements , including saying that rubizhnaya is under their control. you can find a lot of videos

that this is not so, now about 50% of the rubizhnoye settlement has been freed from ukrainian punishers. now there is a very difficult humanitarian situation. we are in new and new people, trying to evacuate them. but, unfortunately, we are under fire. we are here with the fear of death, as they say, and the risk of evacuating people. let's help them. eh, literally. today we found new ones. uh, these are, uh, spontaneous bomb shelters, of which there are a huge number. e people, there are many sick many children, including babies. right now we are just evacuating from this shelter. i also want to give you one with uh, a story that was told in this hideout. there is now only one media to the head nurse who provided assistance. ah, the needy. and the woman

who was a doctor, she went to the controlled territory of ukraine and simply disappeared, there are a lot of assumptions that she was simply not allowed here, because they no longer consider such people to be theirs and there is nothing. as they say to treat these op. i also want to note that now it's literally. i recently received already. the third confirmation of the fact that in the village of rubizhnoye is almost no dryers left. now there are only radicals of the right sector there, this follows the tactics and strategy of the city of mariupol, when regular units of the armed forces of ukraine come out of there and leave the nazis so that they leave scorched earth behind them. here is such an approximate situation now on the territory of the luhansk people's republic. thanks to andrei vitalievich, i can confirm your words with a story about

how, just the other day, the day before yesterday, uh, a close, fellow soldier of mine. asked me about. well actually. you know this story about, uh, the woman's mother, and our comrade, uh, who needed to be evacuated from there, who really couldn't do it. i am here what you are now telling, and i felt it. well, as if on my own. this is a story when a person is in a house, which is practically in the middle, which is shot through from all sides, that is, this is actually a struggle, indeed, this is a battle now for every house and in this sense i have a question. you say these nazis, they stay there, in what their motivation their motivation. there is more to destroy and die by yourself or or what i'm trying to understand. the motivation is very simple, firstly, they get money for it, because this is the mercenaries this

time, but since they understand that the coffins have a pocket no, they also do not want to die. they just destroy the entire infrastructure. they use incendiary thermobaric. uh, the house-destroying ammo is literally boxes stacked up in these houses, and they just retreat after doing their dirty work. eh, in those places where they think they will be safe. well, i want to warn the security. they won't, because even the guardian orgay admits that a huge amount of information is coming from severodonetsk and now it is our unit. there are our people there who correct the fire on the ukrainian fascists. there are our people who hate this ukrainian scum and leave with impunity. it will not be possible only to save life, you can lay down your arms in another case, the enemy will be eliminated. thank you

for the answer, exhaustive andrey vitalievich marochka. was in touch with us. thank you for, as always, a very accurate clear demonstrative story, work brothers. now, do you understand what is the matter of the question that i outlined at the beginning of the program? i will now let you listen to another short conversation of one of the war correspondents with our military, who talks about how much he helps in the war zone, and the red crosses are medical on cars. i think this is also a very revealing conversation. listen to him. well, we specially remove crosses on medical equipment, because this the initial target first works on crosses, and then works on the main colony. that is, so that no one could help the wounded and injured. i want to ask you, because you and by virtue of first with professional

necessity and now both human and anyway and professional interest you came across the study of this phenomenon, which formed this psychology, which marochka also described. andrei vitalievich, here is our fighter , i honestly don’t know, uh, i can’t find examples, well, the great patriotic war - it’s natural when german pilots shot at the red crosses exactly the echelon with children, knowing that there were children and so on, but still they were germans. these were the fascists. and now we are talking, as it were, about what many of us are accustomed to consider, that our people are ukraine and so on, after all. i 'm trying to understand if this is something that was in those who are doing it before, and now it just appears like that, or is it, well, like a war so slightly it went through the roof and so on. i'm trying to to understand that this is why all the rules, all the

norms, all the ideas have flown down. and this absolutely indescribable kind of hatred, inhumanity and lawlessness is a pond in such volumes. how do you explain it? what's this? this is simple fascism, which explains very simple fascism - a dictatorship plus a nation. this is what fascism is, what is happening is the construction of a mono-national state, that which was taken as the basis of the economic basis. i talked about this, i repeat once again, this is an oligarchy plus an oligarchy. nazi nationalists whatever they want you can call it, but they eventually became neo-fascists. with the help of the oligarchic groups that supported them at one time, if until 2014 they were conditionally kept this gin in that bottle, it would even be correct to say

to her until 2012, because in 2012 svoboda entered parliament. and this is the genie, and then they let it out of the bottle, and it began to multiply and multiply after the coup d'état. these are his fascists. supported by economic again the same structures, about which i said in the financial-industrial or oligarchic, whatever you want to call both that and the other is quite suitable for them. they began to multiply just to clone. how well, right from the maidan, previously convicted persons without special checks were brought to the internal affairs bodies, uh, to the national guard in the army of the armed forces. and they further all went east to east. they did nothing, they went to conquer these lands, because their national state did not extend to all of ukraine. ukraine was always a lot of nationality.

territories. as a matter of fact, they treated them as territories in which they would eventually settle, settle their relatives and friends there, receive corresponding positions in the state administration and would spread their dictatorship. here is the planting of language. after all, no one is, in principle, normal people. here the ukrainians, no one was against the language. i was at school, for example, in high school at one time i studied ukrainian language. that's when he studied at higher educational institutions already directly in in kiev, i graduated from the academy of the department of internal affairs with a master's degree. the ukrainian language was compulsory exams and so on. this was already beginning a certain planting, and then they simply categorically began to plant this ukrainian language and turn the entire territory into a kind of single mono-ethnic state. the idea was simple, i also told you about it, let me remind you once again that why at all is why, what

served as the basis for the unification of large businesses. although i will repeat it again. here is the stipulation wrong big business. these are oligarchic structures. they are tightly connected with crime with the street, which is also financed and also financed by these, uh, national formations, which develop into neo-fascist organizations. and when they entered all these uh groups, into the army of the armed forces, more precisely into the internal troops or the national guard, as they called it, into the internal affairs bodies and went through the so -called, otherwise where are these nationalists actually. got under certain the influence of these nationalists. e employees. uh, the

same law enforcement system. e, they took part in the massacres, in fact they became criminals, and they became not just criminals, accomplices in military crimes. they understand that sooner or later there will be no responsibility for it and no amnesty for committing such crimes. so. uh, leaving these territories. now. they understand that they did not become their territories. this seems to me the main motive to erase everything to the end. that's why they can compare with the nazis of german germany because they do not belong to these territories as the territories of their state and it is quite reasonable to wipe them off the face of the earth. they have always waged a terrorist war against their own people. i mean, starting from the 14th year, all these long years and now, our operation, which is being carried out in ukraine, should bring a clear

counter-terrorist coloring. let's just talk too. i have one more question for you. here in the development of what we talked about what will happen later or what should begin to happen already within the framework of a special military operation in order to change this fascist neo-nazi, nazi character of this state and somehow change it. we have talked very often. well, maybe a week ago. and when a here we discussed that in those territories that have already been liberated by our troops it is not very clear who is organizing the order of life and so on, and in recent days it has already been announced that military-civilian administrations will be created, uh . and then you told me that, well, there are a fairly large number of people, including former ukrainian law enforcement officers, who are ready to go there, but the status of their work is still not very clear, during this time something about for you for these people in your understanding of what, after all, what russia is doing there, in addition to a special

military operation. hmm, look in melitopol in kherson, former employees began to enter the service. berkut uh-huh to protect public order, which means that local governments have really begun to form. and this process is very indicative and brightly good, and it is necessary to continue to create it and help people create local self-government. and there is a second side. this medal, the other side is the work of the special services of counterintelligence, primarily to identify. there are a lot of so-called ukrainian activists who have spawned a lot during this time and they are actually still controlled by the special service of the sbu of ukraine who impose their own point of view. these activists they work in information network. including today repeated brand. there she talked about the fact that there

are some officials who speak out and tell there, well, lies about the events taking place. yes, we must understand that their power rests on this, that is, they covered everyone in a certain information capsule and closed it within the framework of this information capsule. they discuss only their victories and nothing else so that this does not happen the first identification of all the activists who will try to impose those the former conditions of life, the conditions of power acting for the local population and the local population will be intimidating, and the local population must have a clear perspective for its further development, either this is already the experience of creating people's republics. donetsk luhansk, respectively, should appear kharkiv zhytomyr there dnepropetrovsk and so on, and then this fate these people of real democracy will determine where they go next. and in this sense. this is a very

important issue as the development of the special military operations. and mikhail, you and i have also touched on this issue here more than once in your studio today, but more has developed than before. understanding our strategy of tactics as you wish call it as part of a special military operation where there is no longer military action. well, at least they began to remove ukrainian flags. in the liberated territories, it's already good. in some places military-civilian administrations began to appear, of course, it is necessary to explain to everyone that there is no longer any fascist power in ukraine will never. and the people's power the people's anti-fascist power must be said specifically when our officials declare that we are not going to overthrow the power of the fascists. forgive me, please, this is generally what it is all about, how e and brutally from the prisoners

is known to the civilian population to a very large extent, not only because they are fascists, but because they are fascists absolutely convinced of their impunity. these are fascists who know very well that russia is kind. russia will let go russia blames. this is what the prisoners of war said at easter they will not survive easter at home with us in less than a month, right? well, yes, here, maybe, of course, i wanted to reassure. but there is a huge experience in the fifteenth year. in the fifteenth year, on the exchange of captives of the donetsk people's republic , ours were given away, as bags of bones were specially broken for them all the bones before they were exchanged, so to speak, and the people who do this have made a career over the past seven years. they realized that they had not killed in 7 years, so they would not kill further. here please mayor ivan frankovsky made a fascist statement. and why do they live and why is there mary in the city of ivanov frankovsky after

these words, the height of the working day should fly by the caliber and mary should stand there why is she occupied, we still emphasize that these arrivals to western ukraine, which must be said in a noticeable way, are taken into account in a noticeable way for the last week that these are still arrivals exclusively on military infrastructure, moreover, the mayors of ukrainian cities - this is also confirmed to me it seems that this, in general, works more for us than against us, that many ukrainians who still live in the territory understand this already. uh control that the fascists should feel impunity if he does not wear a military uniform, well what is called it will mean thousands more victims from my point of view. nikolai well, i'll let michael disagree now. it seems to me that we, of course, cannot behave as they behave , but we should not. yes, we do not look like some kind of toothless all-forgiving, as for

those bastards who cracked down mocked our prisoners, then, as far as i understood the personality. well, at least a few of them are installed. and i think that their fate will be sad, if they live to see the trial, they will receive capital punishment, because i am convinced that in the russian federation the death penalty will be applied, and the moratorium that was introduced because of, the presence of our council of europe country, it will be canceled because we are no longer present there. the people of russia advocated the use death penalty. once again, i want to emphasize not for the expansion, not for repression, but for those articles of the criminal code of our country, where is this one? the type of punishment is described, but what about daenerynr? as a matter of fact, they have their own criminal codes, and there has never been any moratorium. therefore, if a nazi falls into the hands of justice in the dpr , lpr, then here immediately. if the court, of course, uh,

finds him guilty, everything will be clear. but as for the shelling of some hmm mayors who allow some kind of statements. everything seems to me that we should not somehow react to this, a denazification operation will come there and the mayor will answer for his words. now the program will leave for poland. the program time will tell, we continue to work live on the air. i just received a very revealing sms in advertising. that's about what i started with and, in a sense, our dispute about how to treat, and there, to the prisoners to her prisoners of war, this man writes to me, who returned from the combat zone as a sniper and will return there the day after tomorrow, will not having healed completely, then because of what he had to come here. and who wrote to me

that i completely agree with you in battle , we won’t feel sorry for anyone especially after such videos , but we are people and treat them better than they deserve. it's very revealing and it 's very important he's a serb, but in that sense, we're serbs and russians. we are just part of the culture for which to remain human. it is important that a battle is a battle, and civilians are civilians. well, in this sense, we are talking about the fact that we oppose here, of course, both the ukrainian nazis and the ukrainian an army in which in many ways this nazism has put down its roots and tentacles, but it is clear that this is just a sharpening of a tool, as you wish, an advance detachment of infantry cannon fodder. what else do you use and epithets are completely and other people who are not here are across the ocean and

just the rhetoric of these people, it is very revealing, although this weekend. there are interesting changes in this rhetoric. well, look, biden, who arrived, uh, in europe, but, starting from friday, he began to make interesting statements. here in the background of all these commercials. what the ukrainians are doing the same as we are, which means we are dealing with their prisoners . well, the truth is, he probably doesn’t see any of this and doesn’t need to know, but listen , it all started, with this statement of his in response to who he biden considers putin to be. interact with vladimir putin every day, see what he did with these people, what do you think? he is the butcher that's what i think, and even the mask did not help, they put on a mask for him on purpose so that he would not talk too much, but he shook the mask anyway. then he went out to the public, but continued like this strange rhetoric not understood by everyone, and listen to the rhetoric cruelty will never break their will to freedom,

russia will never defeat ukraine because free people refuse to live in a world where hopelessness reigns. and darkness, we will have a different future, a brighter future based on democracy hope and the light of decency and the dignity of freedom and opportunity. for god's sake. this man cannot remain in power. at that moment, joe suffered in a strange way, and the fact that he suffered shows that the white house is also here. he began to deny these words and apologize, which is very revealing through the mouth of the official representative of the white house, who began to say what he did not mean. what does it mean, he didn’t mean putin’s power in russia, we just heard verbatim what he said, it was him and he said it, even more significant from the point of view of understanding who and what we are opposing. and what is

happening inside this camp now, because you understand very well that you can discuss as much as you like, there are zelensky danilovs, uh, all these merzens, nods, and so on, it is important what is happening. those uncles and those uncles began to make interesting statements in response to biden. well, let's start with the ring, for example, schultz, who is the german chancellor, who said that the regimes in russia are not the goal of nato , including the goal of the american president, that is, you understand germany about which we used to argue that it is not sovereign. and that, in general, she will not, as it were, emit an extra word and sound without america, suddenly the german chancellor well, in fact, begins to stage in the place of the president of the united states and from being baptized to you, he said the same is done by the leader of another, the leader of the european country macron, who says that he would not use it, but use it. well , and so on and so forth. that is, today it is biden himself, which is also very show. well, he's

president of the united states of america for a minute. he says something, then they ask him a question a day later. you meant it, listen to the answer. well , okay, maybe i didn’t hear it, maybe i didn’t understand what to ask, maybe about something else in this house moment, but it is even more significant that today they continue to release representative after representative of an american who denies the words of the president of the united states surprisingly already, so to speak, forgot about him . a synonym, so to speak, m-m. well , it doesn't matter what the past is. well, listen to the hastein. this statement of the president does not correspond to the official policy of the united states, this statement was emotional in poland president met with hundreds of refugees from ukraine with polish officials on american,

military, his speech became an emotional reaction. his speech became an emotional reaction, says the state department's energy adviser, who is not talking about this at all, that is, i have a feeling that there is someone there, i don't know who gave the command. listen, it means that grandfather let slip something. and everything is necessary, which means that it is somehow polished, by the way. not only at the level of state leaders. the news has just arrived at 18:38. the un secretary general, in the words of biden to putin, said, we must avoid escalation, both military and in rhetoric, that they have it there, as it were, that everything suddenly happens more precisely, or what is happening to him or what is happening to them there . your question is extremely condensed, because i'm much more interested in the first part here, which was discussed before the advertisement. uh, that's where the most problems are. uh, don't flatter yourself the american system works, the way it works and

the western systems of consolidation, utterly based on the financial leverage of the military force of compromising evidence, which has a whole lot on all these european politicians and leaders of this system, is held either by an ideological linkage or the danger of losing its five-hundred-year-old power over the rest of the world. what's the difference? everything will be the same, biden, well, they will correct such a system. by the way , i have many, uh, we have. well, this is already democratically the president said from 25 assistants they said that he didn’t say so, he was wrong. that's so worry, and the words of scholz. i know in the twentieth century, only one leader of germany with whom i can compare with the scholz, according to him, i don’t want to give this name to me, this person in general , this person means nothing, an enemy of russia, i do

n’t know at all how the great german nation could put forward such a thing on well, german nations have the experience of nominating people. i said that i know more.