the europeans, in this case, the germans, by the way, are actually very e in an interesting situation. now europe is not only in the energy sector, because on the one hand, 3 million oe have already arrived there, of which there are many so-called horses who continue, well, to do what many of them, in fact, only know how to do. well , let's have forgotten already, please. by the way, on the other hand, i know, for example, here are my uh sources in italy that there is a more interesting situation in italy, because there among refugees, there are those who came from western ukraine and who jump, and there are those who came from eastern ukraine, including from mariupol from near kharkov, and so on, and they don’t want to jump, and there is now such a very interesting stretch in italy and most importantly, in the same

germany yes, not immediately, but over time, which has come, russian people begin to wake up, who may not have been born by russian people by blood, but who feel russians, who associate themselves with russia, who do not want endure these surges. and over the weekend, personally, even a huge amount was sent to me in the comments in the telegram channel. from germany, here are these videos about flash mobs in different cities and, uh, cars, on which both zv, and russian flags and 400 cars are assembled, and so on. that is, and all this, er, everything. these are such interesting processes, and i think they will run in parallel with all these energy talks. let's now talk to the person who is listening to us, he is now just in germany and in in the nineteenth convocation, he was a deputy of the buddha of germany, chairman of the international council of russian germans. waldemar gerdt and good afternoon.

he is the same year. he is guten tang and what is your situation there, what about your moods? is this really a story about empty shelves in a shop for buying butter, flour, and so on. and that the population is ready to freeze, but to spite the russians, as one of the german ministers suggested here the other day, please. with empty shelves , they are filled with a little bend, maybe not so quickly and not for everyone, what stood before, but such a serious problem with the products. we are not watching now. we understand that this will be possible, and even, probably, inevitable by the fall, if politics continues to move in the same destructive a-a key in which it is moving now, and we all need to understand that in the short term , everyone and russia, including us, because the company is now being closed by

energo. uh, capacious enterprises that are no longer able to produce competitive products, this process will become more complicated or increase. and now the population is already in the mood, well, for the sake of freedom, you can and should freeze. i don’t understand, just for the sake of what freedom and why we should do this, and for many people this is perplexing, that is, in the short term. we will all suffer in the long run. it must be clearly understood that e russia has everything, in fact. all its own resources will simply have to gather and economically shoot up europe if it does not find it, a pragmatic approach to this problem will remain some kind of backwater to the ruins of this industrial power. uh, well, something

else will grow, not like the european union, which will probably crumble soon as a result of these upheavals. well, germany itself, with its energy intensity of industrial power. she can be forgotten. uh, the rest of the players in the oil and gas market are correct. hmm, uh, the players in the oil and gas market, that you will excuse me, but it will be impossible to completely replace it. and even if something is possible, the pricing policy will not allow to produce a competitive product. uh, germany is in a very losing position today and bewildering. here is this here politically here these political decisions. eh, it's growing more and more among. uh, among people, uh, everything, more and more, the postulate that i have been trying to proclaim to everyone and everywhere for 4 years is becoming clear. we are not a sovereign country. unfortunately, if the government is not capable

of making decisions in the interests of its people. what kind of sovereignty can we talk about if we listen to zelensky's bundestag, which is reproaches and some incomprehensible ones? there insults humiliates everyone deputies and no one had the courage to stand up and say. listen, dear people chose us, so that we would take care of their well-being, not yours. and here is mr. gerber. and can you explain to me, you say that no one had the courage to stand up and say this, but explain, i did not have the courage to face the threat of what. what makes all these people not stand up and say what makes the ministers. i forgot now his name of this minister, who says the best and freeze and put on a sweater, but buy gas from russians for rubles. and it must be something to push them to it. yes and here we come to the second postulate, which i heard from you to work with

the population. here, after the war, they work intensively with the population of germany in all directions. i have repeatedly suggested, uh, russia to get involved, for example, in the creation of russian schools with a russian language bias here, and this was, perhaps, the constitution. this allows you to simply get together to agree on this, but for some reason it did not work out, because they counted. well, not exactly this is important, how important we see it now, because the brainwashing has been going on for 70 years and especially the last 30 years. she changed the way of thinking so much that sometimes it's even scary to look into those eyes with which you try to explain uh with simple examples. well, here are the situations. and you understand that it freezes like a computer, it is its thinking. i never thought aside, and when you bring him to the question, yes or no, do you agree or

not? in the end, he understands that, in fact, this is not at all the case, but such like me, unfortunately, there is still very little here and systematic work on clarification and work with the population. uh, the russian-speaking hmm, the russian-speaking side has almost never led it. russia hasn't led it intelligibly, but we wish you success in your explanatory work nonetheless. i think there are many lessons. we will now extract from what we have already encountered. what are we facing. god willing, we will begin to correct some mistakes, of course, which were. and good luck to you. thank you. it was waldemar er, hertz. well, after all, what versions are there? freeze and stand or they will go and start buying for rubles, your version, given the pressure that mr. gerdt spoke about. uh, it is impossible for the west to agree with the trade in russian resources for rubles, it is impossible to agree with the trade in gas, because it is obvious that everything will not be limited to this. and

then it should not be limited, followed by oil, wheat, ferrous non-ferrous metals, and so on and so forth, they will not agree, and the united states of america in this case will again sacrifice the interests of europe, because for them the embargo. they are already led to russian energy resources. yes, they had something for europe today - this is essential europe, they need a weak one and in crisis. and now artyom let's remember what we all know about history, when germany was plunged into disaster, and then she was sent to russia today, the united states of america is organizing a largely artificial crisis in europe in order to deprive the europeans and repeat the scenario of hitler's drive to power, because neither poland nor the ukrainian nazis are up to the task europe must become poor reformatting it as a beggar adds refugees there, including the nazis who fled from ukraine and

further, reshaping it following the example of ukraine for years. so in 10-15, they may send us earlier, and voting actions work according to a template, if it gives the result of this, unfortunately, they sometimes succeed, therefore, the prospect of creating an anti-russian germany should already be borne in mind, try to reach an agreement, but until it is under the americans, we hardly have ten years. we must break the european thieves here and now without a complete cessation of the supply of raw materials, we may perish. well, all these things that have been said are all the more important for the guys to work there, in the end they gain important and necessary combat experience. work brothers, that's it, it's not in vain that experience will come in handy, we are together. imagine how much more there is to discover

and explore, what might be lurking there to buy it. do you want to work with us? premiere on pervy i don't make documentaries about animals, i talk about people who are exploring a new world. and i dream of another father, can you imagine, the story, jacques and his cousteau odyssey on the first of april on the first ya

intends to go to the last untouched corner of the earth in antarctica, one of the main topics of the past weekend was the footage that the ukrainian side published with the torture and execution of our military personnel. in addition, footage of torture of civilians began to appear in the headquarters of the so -called national battalions, more precisely in schools in the basements of the school, where they equip their premises with these personnel. we, too, cannot show for poetic reasons, but we can show. the story of a correspondent, moreover, an italian who visited on the spot and saw his retelling of everything. let's take a look right now. we are now in the basement of school number 25 in mariupol, there was a ukrainian military base here. and here we found a murdered peaceful

woman with a swastika burnt on her stomach. well, most likely, this is a civilian who was glad that the city was liberating aga or tried to get out. an american journalist saw everything with his own eyes, the woman was missing one arm. she was torn out. she had a bag on her head and a swastika burned into her stomach. why are they so cruel? and? it pathological cruelty, you know, when we started hostilities a month ago. we talked about the fact that there is ukraine, there is the ukrainian people, there are some national battalions, there are fascists, but there is someone else, right? and the reality a month later seemed much harsher, that we have a completely fascist state in front of us. fascist criminal gangster elected to say and say some rules of law, when they have an idol share,

hitler and nazi germany often do not have me. let's notice what last month, none of our western partners mentioned international law at all; they forgot about it; it does not exist. it is completely gone, it is gone, and moreover, for them, the western partner did not receive any news. this is what the creator of the national battalion. they taught them this, and their designers were taught by these national battalions to mock and kill their people. we know that now these crimes have been committed. can you imagine how many of these crimes have been committed in 8 years. how many people disappeared about it? everybody say they just had them gone. and, of course, now for us the main task is to win to win by all the armed forces, every member of our society has been promised to defeat fascism. this is the patriotic war, but there is no doubt that all

these crimes should be investigated in the same way as fascist crimes were investigated in the soviet and other lands after that today, by the way, is the day of the liberation of nikolaev from the nazi invaders. and there today this holiday cannot be cancelled. they can't mark. well, among others, in the forty, sixth year, all the executioners who globalized the people in nikolaev, starting from the scourge, were hanged by court order. here even we come to this. like it or not, but in the people's republics the death penalty is from me. nikita to us until today, and will continue to say, what is all this kremlin propaganda what are all these actors hired? there is nothing of this, but those executions and torture of our servicemen, which the ukrainians themselves released on social networks and showed, they have already been noticed in the west. and even there we began to understand, we say, we would not like to

say this, but we cannot but notice it, until they say so, on the one hand, of course, that there are signs of some more or less at least a slight sobering up in the west. maybe, maybe this is a good trend. i want to say about how many such crimes of atrocities of torture and murder have not been banned on camera. it’s just that there weren’t so-called wise men of these nazi scoundrels who, well, i’ll tell you straight, they didn’t think of filming it, because, apparently some inner convictions, if they still remained human, were present in them at the same time the very fact of committing this crime. he was, i want you to remember now that when a colleague talked about the liberation of mariupol and the fact that they occupied the airport right next to this airport. and former prisoners of this library also talk about this. there is right there a mass grave, that is, a mass gathering of people who were killed, just after, apparently, these tortures or during these tortures, or, uh, they simply buried the corpses,

therefore, i am sure that not only the confirmed facts that we now see should form the basis of criminal cases, the basis. this is also very important massively information companies, because we still have a lot of regret. i say until now, there are people who try to ignore these crimes. you can remember how a large number of people in our country are high-ranking leaders of public opinion. forget about crime. may 2 was forgotten in odessa for eight years. and so that we forget this is a crime. forgive me, here i am now i will say, uh, a contradictory thing, but this horror. sometimes it is necessary to show, at least to speak exactly about it, because it opens the eyes of those blind people who refused to believe that in ukraine the real nazi power, in which these blind people contribute to this, have not seen for 8 years how donbass is shelled by history. a lot comes from there. and now we are passing the word to our

colleagues from the male and female program. the information channel continues its work on the air, the program male/female fate of those people who fled from their native land because of the neo-fascist wickedness that has occupied ukraine today for 8 years now, civilians have been dying in the donbas. today we have anna tuff studios under the rubble of our own house. she lost her husband and eldest daughter. hello hello what happened in 2015? on may 26, 2015, my katya came home from school. she was 11 years old on may 21. she had a birthday 5 days before. the

neighbor's children came in the evening, it started very strong. the shelling of the children scattered in horrors flew, tracer bullets in the fog. before that, on may 12, we gave birth to a newborn milan, we were 2 weeks old . katya graduated from high school with honors last day. we watered the garden at home. the younger son ran around the yard, the little one was brought into the house. she slept in the room. so we sat down to eat in the yard and noticed that a drone was flying low above us over the yard. i was scared back then. our farm had a big cow and a pig. our hay was out. on this day, just brought hay. i was afraid that from this drone i i understood that this ukrainian would think that this was some kind of equipment hidden under the hay and was very worried. because of this. i understand correctly to forgive, that i will interrupt that in 2015 you, being a woman, are also a mother of many children. yes, how many

children you had three, she was probably already sorted out at that moment. what is a drone? what are tracer bullets? it was our usual everything, because he was the very first when there were military operations in our city on the eleventh or fourteenth of june at 5:00 in the morning. above our roof a fighter plane came very low with this squeal, and it began to drop bombs on the city center 3 km from us. and so we knew where you were or where the arrival was. we had a hurricane falling two streets away. this is heavy artillery, which dug a funnel the size of a house, only down the height, and then we were without light for a long time without water, everything was killed. let's do it. you have already told channel one about this terrible story. let's take a look first, and then, if we have any questions left, we'll ask mine, okay? i clearly remember every moment remember. it was a sunny day. katya had the

last day of classes and came home from school with honors. finished my milana was only 2 weeks old. we were just after giving birth and a drone was flying low above us at that moment life completely turned upside down, explosions were heard. everyone immediately ran into the house. maybe while he brought the children into the house. when i heard the pop, i only had time to run on gunpowder. we didn’t have time to sit down or lie down, shout, lie down, nothing, but only with my husband. eyes collided, i say it all when i realized what happened. i looked back and i saw that the house was literally destroyed, everything was like in a fog under the rubble. i found two-year-old zakhar , then i ran to the back room, where the newborn milana was sleeping, and started trying to call an ambulance. and when i turned around i saw that all the phones that lay on the aquarium glass burst, they float in the water, the eldest daughter, your husband

died. one of the shells hit the yard. there was a funnel left, the second one flew into the roof, the walls were partially destroyed by the blast wave, i myself ended up in the hospital, as if on a shoulder in a gap eardrum lost a hand, who bombarded me with pipes dug out. after treatment, it was decided to move with children and relatives. we went to donetsk as if it were a refuge and explosions a picture that we observed for a year and a half every arrow i had zakhar turners. i could not harvest in a ball. i had such stress. even here they fell in the entrance on the tile of switching on , hysteria began. i didn't even notice you didn't have a hand. itself less of my mornings. along with the rest, how did you figure out what happened to the eldest daughter? i do not understand. at first i lost

consciousness. the last thing i remember is that i was running. it was already whistling at the back of my head into the house, and i just managed to run in and slam the door, and at that moment my husband accelerated and jumped on me with all his weight and opened it. i have a door at hand, and at that moment a projectile fell right where we were, i threw it out with the weight of my body in an explosive wave. i could n't move. i had a lot of everything on my face, i was buried, but i heard how suffocating under the rubble of the house, my son. i heard him scream and for a moment, i felt relieved. if i was removed the door, i heard the voice of a neighbor. he was crying, shouting anya anechka, don't dig your face out quickly, without rubbing your eyes. i groped my way into the room and began to tear my son away by touch. don't open anything yet. when i grabbed him, we

ran in, just like that, fell into the kitchen behind the refrigerator, and at that moment a second shell fell right under our window near the kitchen. and before our eyes. here the whole earth fell down. it's right here all those fragments hit the wall in front of our eyes. only then i could, i could not understand, everything squealed in my ears and everything was like in a fog, and he was a child, he screamed loudly and pointed to his hand. it was only then that i lowered my head and saw that my hand was on only tendons and blood was spraying like a fountain. it was only then that i realized that my arm was torn off by a shell, your dead husband is your mother. we have a video at our disposal, in which she tells about her pain on the spot where the house was destroyed. i want to warn everyone that the video is extremely heavy.

all of his worn out face is beaten up. the whole thing is broken. he is all red in these black dots, black-red dots all over his body, katyusha generally tore the katyushka into pieces into pieces, the guys tore it apart. bastards fascists. my god, look people, what's going on is anya here rewinding her hand. here you can see what is being done. see everything in the blood. you see, she torn off her arm, and she tried to stop the bleeding herself. why are you beating civilians? why did they thrash everyone last night? who gave no one expected,

granddaughter 11 years old, she is here stayed right here here is my granddaughter. here is my son with one arm torn in his hands, they have not even found it yet. anya, my daughter-in-law lies with a torn hand, but she is alive, thank god, but my son is gone, guys. he is not. you know, him. no, well done, well done, be. you just and you again knee to the seventh to the fifth to the tenth to 20. we are cursed by all reference, my hole. oh my god, how can i get through this. how can we survive who is not even here stunned what awesome creatures and corrupt oh my god why why did they kill my child? per what? when you ended up in russia another year and a half,

after all this, we were there. fallen more than once under fire bomb shelters were. in 2017 , a volunteer vladimir pelevin took us out in his humanitarian car. how did you meet him? why did you decide to leave anyway? i was supposed to be taken for prosthetics and could not be taken out for a year due to lack of documents, the italian association for the rescue of children many times turned to the president of ukraine with this question, so that i could be transported through the international red cross and personally, but they didn’t let me, as a living witness to get to europe, i was immediately entered on the peacemaker website as an accomplice of terrorists who lost her arm in the battle under the throat after

you nevertheless received russian citizenship yes, you left for italy as make a protest to yourself. no, vladimir pelevin, when he brought us, he addressed the state duma to the kamentsis party with a request that i be given refugee status. and with a refugee travel document, i was able to leave, and i received citizenship already in 2018 year in your life there was a story that you were nominated for the nobel peace prize. this then happened in the hospital at the prosthetics center. i've been doing this all the time every day. gathered rallies gathered conferences in different cities of italy gave as many interviews as possible, trying to reach out to the place of the population and tell them the cruel reality that is happening in the donbass because everything was presented there in a different way and many residents did not even know that there was a war going on this is where the journey began and then i

i came to the conference on donbass, brought evidence on the network of photographs of dead families and spoke at this conference, people were shocked by this truth because it was not shown there, the information was filtered. why did you decide to do this? in support of people, because i experienced this pain myself when you go out and see half of the torso of your child, whom you hugged 20 minutes ago. i found my beloved man dressed with a face, crushed into fragments of a torn and i understood that if i did not say this, more children would die. as far as i understand, vladimir not only drove you to russia, not only helped you draw up the documents. he im right with you now

. so they stayed with him. for you, how did these terrible events begin. when i saw all this on the internet on tv there, for some reason, i was very hurt and offended by the russian people, what is happening? i began to get ready to go, of course i had problems there with my ex- wife. she didn't let me go. she hid her passport there. so i didn't leave, but still, i didn't immediately. well, i was able to leave. a week later, i was already in lugansk. i watched a video with my own eyes. here i went entered. here is the ghost brigade named after alexei mozgovoy and what did you do in the ghost? well, i

wanted to be on the front lines all the time. but my commanders found out that i have a big car, a twenty-ton truck. so i was told about the ownership of my property. yes, they said, vova, we really need humanitarian assistance. you will help us more. here. and if you will they collect it for us in moscow, but we can’t deliver people to other cars, they are simply afraid to go there. here. well, what did the commanders say? i said, as you say, so be it. so i began to carry this help, i got it more than once. here, we even got sanya when i took her out. here on us, when we went out with him, they thrashed us. from the city, the asphalt was on fire. she crawled into the bedroom. well , we covered her with armor plates, three armor plates on top and that's how we went out with her. they beat iz grad because the car is very large, it is noticeable twenty tons before. i've gotten in before. i was just a mine under

the car, the wheel exploded, it was torn off. here, and the sleigh, how did you meet? well sa