two evidential will get away from him. it will no longer be possible to name everything. this is a russian fake. here are the first shoots. gevorg is already there. uh, we gathered a group of foreign journalists in the donbass and we showed it in the news on channel one . so the reaction of these journalists. here is a woman journalists from the netherlands she says listen to say, well, i'm generally shocked. i actually thought that it was a completely different matter. but when i visited here in the donbass, when i talked to people, it really says some say, it’s just that the blog stands for the truth, there is a directed block to the right for all those journalists and everyone has been banned. indeed, now i am only the first stage, which we could not win by default, because we do not control the world media and we do not control the flow of information there; the west controls it. there they give a free supply of ukrainian and so on. now. yes, they don’t even understand that all the current informational rush, which is now on us , is solely to convince them not. convince russian society that we are losing,

like in ukraine. listen, immediately stop the war and so on, you just have to ignore it , work on and spread the very evidence that you told your colleagues about. here is another confirmation of this, this fake attack on russia, as it is happening now, the british newspaper the sun came out the other day with another fake, e.g., with an article that russian barbarians captured 40,000 ukrainians and forced them to slave labor. yes, in fact, what photos is a bridge, and in the city, irpen , people were specially herded there, and they said, petro poroshenko will arrive now . petro poroshenko and he, it means that he will lead you along some humanitarian corridors. here we see, yes, look, there are people with weapons standing there. they just don't let people get out from under this bridge, but people, of course, came there, and i relate to this illustration. this is an illustration. so to speak, the title. give me that title again. of course, look, well, i didn't know it was so neglected. guys, here we are talking now yes facts

we will present. what are these facts nafig facts. you look here enslaved enslaved 40,000 driven into slavery listen these people do not perceive. what is it like? how's the parody? how satire how idiocy? no, i mean the reader, here you can imagine the russians, but barbarians barbarians well, what 's the difference for himself? yes, this is the tale newspaper, the most widely circulated newspaper in britain, that is , just if you want to guarantee that people have something in their heads, some feeling, print it in sleigh. this is the feeling of the russians. barbarians back works one rule. the more stubborn propaganda, the less it lives. and so i think that and if another rule is from, so to speak, and their progenitor joseph goebels, the more monstrous the lie, the easier it is for me to believe, please, they have the same teachers. well , here's what they're afraid of. it is such a feeling, however, dmitry passed you, they do not change, donbass has been going on for eight years. after that, the

information agenda changed, we overcame it. the problem is that, in principle, we had tools have tools. how to work with it with the sphere is to work, respectively. uh, before they started actively cutting out youtube and, accordingly, the artist calmly, there was a billion gaining views. i remind, aha after that just instead of moving on. naturally in tick, then the amount of modern channel about communication. we, respectively, went back on youtube. that is, you, as it were, in modern canada should be ahead of the question is that everyone lives in their own information bubble and in these bubbles of each other everything suits all the same facts, and all the same events are normal. this bubble is digested there, it works great from the point of view of the information component. it’s natural for you, but this is being talked about, including by protesters, on the outer perimeter, that is, the problem is that the situation starts to laugh out of two things. the first is because of the economy. that's when people start that their way of life is changing, that's for a way of life, they will kill their own. for their way of life they will

go beyond what, as it were, is changing for them, then to what they are accustomed to, as a regular pattern or about the usual programs of behavior. if they have, respectively, every time it turns out to be more expensive to refuel, if they wrote it down, then the first point is the economy, this system is pierced, the system is torn, when you change, as if the usual scheme of life, the same thing happens and now the second important point is the following you need to work with different categories and groups of the population. there are people who do not watch tv tell a terrible secret. here are the channels of communication. here it goes faster. in this segment, it is also necessary to work with these people, it is necessary to communicate with them, it is necessary to explain them, because they watch these, and, accordingly, stories. they are looking at these options. they do not have an alternative agenda, an alternative position in this, the main task. these people are ready to consume content and are ready to attract content, like other news in a different type, but it simply does not provide in this format the first thing that was technically possible. the question is not in this, not in the tv channels, the person who wants to find, respectively content he finds it. now some of the people

find it not through, but, accordingly, the tv, for example, through telegram you get what you watch, it turns out the second point. it is connected directly with the first, because to force, uh, i understand myself correctly, that people will be forced to look for something somewhere to rummage on the internet to watch the economy, namely, the change in the lifestyle of the standard of living, the change in the situation in the refrigerator, and so on, the picture in the mind of a person . this picture cuts everything out of her, no matter how she explains that it seems to be that how annoying you are in this picture, but when this picture starts to just tear at what you see, that is the situation is as follows. what a picture here , accordingly, there is a restriction, there is isolation, this does not affect anyone much. live as live on everything happens when a person realizes that he does not live. since he lives, some things begin to break his matrices into it, then he begins to look for answers, and he will look for these answers not on telecom. he will look for those answers by any means, then he will come to your content to your content he will cart, he will break through. on youtube , he will find ways to get through the question. well , it doesn't matter, but in fact, just in a different way through chinese, for example, well, the chinese would not,

for example, is a person like that, yes, your task is this type of people to be different. e to different, according to groups of people, different types and products of different prices, because we understand, therefore, from this point of view. this is the most important aspect of how different groups to talk to. they just cut out one group if we save on reworking. yes, we take the first point of the economy and say that in fact, when each person becomes a difficulty. he will start thinking. and where can there be another, though since we are told one thing in the end, but at the same time, for all that, they have the same teachers. i want to remind you once again that they act according to normal patterns, which have been taught by teachers all their lives , and these teachers, they say, the following, if you have economic problems, you understand that they are inevitable. find unite around the enemy and around him. that's what it does. blame it on putin, so now now how is the picture being built in ukraine to work on the

search for truth and look for sources of reporting information notes and actions facts and actions, what sources do you see, how is it lining up? as long as yes e , we will definitely work, e, we will educate and tell, and the whole truth and truth will happen, but for now. let's see how the picture is built in the minds of the ukrainians themselves by the ukrainian authorities. here is irina vereshchak. yes, after all, an example that every day announced the opening of humanitarian corridors, that here you are, ukrainians from mariupol, uh, move forward. we are waiting for you, no one is waiting for them there. on the other hand, they say what awaits them on the russian side, that children will be taken hostage, that they will force them to work almost in concentration camps, this rhetoric is followed by well-known ukrainian journalist dmitry gordon, who told almost experimental ones, uh, who are waiting for ukrainians. the fallen evacuate to the russian side. all in all scare. uh, well, people are just

frightened to the horror of people, so naturally they don’t know, in general, how they should be what to believe, they believe official sources with their official source, because this is the official position and rhetoric of the ukrainian authorities to intimidate, and then it turns out that they hide behind these people. so what , well, and hide behind as well. here's what i want to point out. but i argued with you about the fact that we are now experiencing only the first stage of the information war. well, as if they took a step back in order to take two step forward. i think the very first rule. i didn’t understand and it’s as if, well, we are defending well. now let's not pick on words i'll just try. actually. it seems to me that 8 years ago, when donbass happened, it was a tragedy, a huge tragedy and genocide. this is a very important word. but it turned out that this is a problem, it has not become a global problem of mankind. the fact is that

humanity has a list of global problems. we teach this at universities. this problem of war and the world of hunger there of the oceans and so on and so forth. here is the problem of donbass, the problem of war and peace. it did not reach the global level because we did not work in the global space. i don't want to blame anyone for this. here i 'm speaking not with this, but not about this, but not just work is important to us. you said very correctly, it is the result that is very important to us. and how are we going to break through this blockade. so we need to look for some ways. i don't know what mechanism should be launched here. a big one should work here an information machine that is capable of taking over the global space. here's how, yes, under the dome and somehow work by itself. vereshchak says. yes, what awaits people on the russian side, people who evacuate. again, they see the russian side in a completely different way. and they tell. they just appreciate their citizens, they don't care and if only they were not saved, they

will hide behind a shield. this is mariupol, yes, vereshchak said, which means that this unian was reprinted. san comes out of his with a huge effect, so to speak hmm caption enslaved and so on the circle is complete. listen, i know that this is nonsense. she nikolaevna but not everyone thinks so as refugees, who i just called to vakha from mariupol, i know about those people who were really taken out to the territory of russia, what they do with them, they feed them and put their hands under them in every possible way, and what works will generally be updated? here's another one i would like to say, and to say this is my exceptionally heartfelt experience. i don’t sleep there for several nights , i sob, i watch footage of mariupol and you know from me what a feeling, sometimes tragedy happens in our lives. when we are forced to identify our relatives, for example, to come to the morgue and the person is in such a state, the deceased

person, that there are his own mother they don’t recognize him, but they recognize him by some expensive scar or is there a mole somewhere there? why, she, only she knows where the mole is or the shape of the nails. you know, the people of the city are the same people. i know mariupol very well, and there was our, uh, training center. i know the wave well. this is the city where part of my childhood. i'm looking at these footage. i look at the footage of mariupol and volnovakha. i understand that i do not recognize them and i cannot recognize them. you know, there is such a phrase, as if, yes, they were buried there, but he didn’t look like himself. and in general, maybe they didn’t even bury him. this is how i look at these cities and understand that they are, as people now recognize, it is absolutely impossible that 90% of the destruction of these unfortunate buildings, mariupol is, as it were, skyscrapers here simply. well, these are such terrible ruins, and volnovakha is, well, conditionally such two-story city. there are no high ones. terrible

things happen there. this is such a huge pain that's all, and you know, these are our people from mariupol volnakh. this is ours. these are the donbass. we treat them like our people. and this is such a huge pain that the people of donetsk are now experiencing, looking at this, we survived it. we know this. and for us, of course, it's just such a phrase, when a person then becomes a person, when he perceives someone else's pain as his own, this is a great poetic phrase. she's like, she's like poetic, but also political. here are the donbass. donetsk residents of gorlovka are those people, i’m talking now in the old territories of the donetsk people’s republic, they really are this alien pain of mariupol, but it’s still not alien. they really feel like their own and in this, of course, the city of donetsk. this is donbass in fact , how self-real? yes, it's about any city. watch this and be horrified. and here it is especially especially difficult, especially scary, realizing that i have said this a thousand times, but it seems to me that this is the most most importantly, why such why such a fate in general

dieupol, why? but because this city was suppressed by russianness, he understands what the matter is. there they took their revenge, as it were, and now, of course, they don’t want the fall of mariupol, in a symbolic sense, their mariupol will actually be the beginning of a complete official, so to speak, certified end. now let 's talk about irina vereshchuk and the newspapers. sana everything else. so let's take, so to speak, into service this phrase of an alternative reality, let's talk all the time halfway. he is now in direct contact with us yuri ivanovich hello, thank you for coming out to us. good afternoon, yes, yes. here i am, within the framework of this idea about an alternative to reality, i want to show you, uh, the speech of the mayor of the city, irpen. so i don’t know, there, on the eve of the negotiations in istanbul, it’s there or or really, it’s some kind of objective information from him there, but here's what he said, by the way, notice how he said it exactly. and where do you listen? released today

irpin is now being cleaned up. i want to thank the servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine, thank the territorial defense , thank the national police and special police units. main intelligence directorate. i would also like to thank our residents. it is impossible to return to irpen yet. it's not safe yet. we are gaining a foothold on the lines and we will continue to free the storm, gostomel vorzel yes, here, yes, yuri ivanovich , that's interesting, right? well i am why i drew the attention of our viewers, see where and how it is it says, he is sitting, apparently, in some kind of i don’t know, well, like in some kind of combat vehicle. yes? e says so. uh, in a half voice, somehow, not in the office, not in a suit. yes, even in a boxing suit. yes, plus it’s strange, we say they took the city, irpin is ours, but you can’t go back there, and so on. there is such a know, such a meme. well, a gorky meme from the time of the special operation, a meme about ukrainian propaganda, which, in my opinion,

has knocked the russians out of chernobaevka a dozen or so times already. and when there's nothing to talk about, what to talk about when they what to talk about, it means they are talking about the fact that they again knocked out the russians from chernobaev. and so they constantly say this, as regards rpnya. uh, yuri ivanovich what's really there, please? hmm well , in fact, fine, how are the cities? no, that is, the ruins of this city are about the same as in mariupol. well, it's just the karma of this city, because it 's located geographically. it is closest to the keel and and it is located between the two rectors , in my opinion, bucha and irpin, and on the outskirts on the northwestern outskirts there are russian positions, and in the southeast there are ukrainian positions, and they have been standing for more than one week, but a huge 80% of the city is a neutral gray zone. why is she like this? well, simply, if you bring any army there, even ukrainian or russian, you get hit by artillery. if pay attention in parallel with these remarks. yesterday, the russian premier worked very actively here, working precisely on those groups that

entered the center of irpin and, probably, hung some kind of flag. maybe not. here the video will appear. maybe i don’t know, but this is the gray zone that no one needs, moreover, it is a generator of losses for two weeks there, no one really goes there. and this had to be done for only one purpose, because they urgently need victory, because something huge is brewing in mariupol. well, first of all, a psychological catastrophe, because for the current regimes, this is really what a person said for me. for them, this will be a very important turning point, they need to show victory, and victory, they planned get in kherson here you were talking about chernobaevka, yes, that is, i made material yesterday, they stubbornly collected it for a very long time. there, units were pulled out from odessa there in parts, they wanted to strike at kherson. it would be a really significant blow, that is, the loss of the regional center. it was. it was just a widely advertised counteroffensive that should have been and so on. yes, it was widely announced as an offensive, that we often grow up in a skirt, the people

of kherson called me, wrote yuri, what is going on there? will they really take us back? everything will be there. i say, calm down, everything will be fine and the day before yesterday, when russian intelligence, as i understand it, opened this disposition quite quickly and waited until this whole grouping gathered the grouping to name them. i can’t name the grouping. she simply delivered blows, and then finished off the aviation, the surgeon running to nikolaev, who later, uh, nikolaev was told there, that they lacked blood, hospitals were wounded there. clogged here, this is over, the victory did not work out. or rather, it turned out, not a victory of grinding, as we have in kiev they like to talk, and taking into account the fact that the problem - it remained in mariupol, it will be handed over anyway. they need an urgent victory and now the idea of ​​​​repeating has arisen, because there is no one there in the desert, no people, nothing howls. that is, you can go to some kind of demonstration to show and leave, because it’s also impossible not to leave. if you leave your positions there and suffer colossal losses, and the heroes do not want to die. uh-huh if i understood correctly, you explain me there in one phrase. i

understand correctly that given that most of patience is a gray area and theoretically you said so, you can run there if you take a picture with the flag, well, just so that you understand what is ahead of us, perhaps some photos with the flag, which are easy, which actually mean absolutely nothing easy, that is, went. in the same way, after a couple of hours, the other side can come in to take off that one and hang up his own in two. more and so on. well, there is a mod to put, of course, an ambush. but this is, well, the stupidity of pure water. it's just a profanity layman. well, by the way, pay attention all the same, probably, to run for this, too, you need to have something to say so. well, i don’t know, it’s probably not so simple, because the mayor, and we were 10 minutes, but, apparently, the mayor of the city was not there for 10 minutes, because that’s why he wrote down to endure, what to say, there was in some car, he says everything was recaptured, it was simply not there, of course, it was not there. he is there, that's why he said that the residents do not need to return, because god forbid the residents go there and see this one. sorry for the expression. yes , they will understand that all merce went crazy, immediately left,

yes, the mayor is understandable. here yuri ivan why is the question important. so we look at the map every day. this is such a dark spot of this kramatorsk group. uh, ukrainian it changes its shape, then it goes deeper somewhere, so to speak, in the dpr then. in short, the outlines of this dark spot on the general green in the whole background are changing. here. please tell us about her fate, about her prospects for this group. well, i don’t see, i, unfortunately, don’t see what you are now showing me, there is no such technical possibility, but i can guess. how are things going there? what do you presumably know? what an interesting point. and that even officially the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine already recognizes the last loss in this area, or the penultimate night, in my opinion, the code, of course, there in the forest clearly and unambiguously writes that we are fighting defensive battles in the barvenkovo ​​area. and we are trying to prevent the enemy from breaking through to the slime. that is , in fact, what i am writing about, that is, as if the general staff is all in, he is honest, well, he just embellishes

his positions, but nonetheless. he's pretty accurate describes what is happening there russian troops took raisins. uh, taking a serious foothold. begins to develop the offensive. and what are they like here on the crossroads yesterday there was a fight until the very night. residents told me they know that they have not yet reported the result. well, the baptism, this is from slavyansk - this is extremely, slavyanskaya or 6 km, these are people, we already see the battle from the houses, it’s clear, it’s going there, it’s clear that how can you write that this is not there? i understand when there is somewhere far away no one sees, when tens of thousands of people see it to hide. is not makes sense, that is, the environment of this group is gradually being cut off. task in general , bring down, that is, completely cover the entire front, starting from kurakhov and ending here in the vot barvenkov area. all of this will be cut to start and destroyed until another perspective is drawn. well, thank god, but i don’t know, so to speak, whether it’s decent to

ask at all how much theoretical time it can take, or there are too many factors and you can’t, so to speak, talk about it a lot. i think this operation will take at least month at least a month. well, at least some certainty. thank you very much, please be patient. patience, in general i will tell you. this is what is especially important at such moments. any normal person. thank you very much yury ivanovich yury podlyako was in direct contact with us andrey viktorovich now we need your comment . but let's look at things, really, in principle, yuri ivanovich revealed to you all these main points that are worn with this one, like decommissioned pipes. e from the kyiv direction, but he pretty accurately described the situation that is. and put up a flag. now it's also pretty, intrusive because all the points in the city are zeroed in. hmm if there are already planned lights that have already been zeroed in and when anyone appears there, er. any vehicle or

some people, but something will fly in instantly, that's why irp. it didn't stay that way. all probably, he says that he will only climb there to bear the loss of meaning, there is no meaning, uh, the kiev ring, but it will still quietly shrink. here it is, as it were, to clarify at the moment, and the logic, then, this direction is the ring around kiev well, of course, let's see everything now, what is happening at this stage, while we are slowly acting in all directions. now we are working in mariupol, we are working on isolation. uh, the donetsk donbass grouping of the enemy. we work in kharkiv , we work in kiev the main, uh, storage bases, the combustibility of materials, the very ones, will practically be immobilized all of ukraine here. i'm assuming that's left to turn off the lights. that's quite possible. here's what you need. the main communications in order to twist the supply from

our western partners, including weapons , fuel and other materiel so that ukraine can fight right now. we will now see every evening today in nikolaev arrived. hello kivu. yes, and that's how everything will be quietly i don't think that every bridge it is necessary to beat the caliber, because the pleasure is too expensive. for this, there are high-explosive concrete-piercing multi-kilogram bombs. yes, these moments will now be quietly paralyzed. the whole country, respectively, the grouping that is now opposed to our armed forces. they will be left without replenishment without material and, accordingly, everything will be much easier, excluding the loss of our military personnel. and remember, by the way, the legendary question. uh, in the same studio it's hard to believe and remember sergey yuryevich on zaporizhzhya and why do you need and why do you supply us with diesel for our victorious armed forces, we are correcting. everyone sergey yuryevich and we doubt advertising on channel one. belykh

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we continue to work live. that's interesting, yes, today at 10:30 we started on the talks of the russian-ukrainian delegation in istanbul there, look, that's who is not for vladimir medinsky on the left, but on the right. you may not recognize him, because today he is david arakhami without a cap. i don’t know what it means, symbolic or taking off the hat or something, i don’t know, a departure from the established ukrainian etiquette. i don't know, so another interesting story. so the ukrainian delegation was warned, so to speak, very pointedly, not to eat or drink anything, because you know, yes, abramovich abramovich was poisoned, and therefore, and so on. well , who else are you, we see abramovich’s rights, you know how alive he walks there and there is a feeling that all this is stuffing and fake from the bbc for what purpose, but this is completely different, as the story goes, sergey asks for negotiations, briefly and succinctly you know how you know how

to read, you expect from them, but it has already become a commonplace to say that these are talks about nothing, that it does not make sense to lead, and i will say. it may be a paradoxical thing, but let's not set super-tasks, but we will understand that the negotiation the process is hard, intense, and painstaking work. this is draft work, which is to prepare a big peace agreement, which will be signed sooner or later. you can't sign it on your knee. here, in order to prepare the conditions for agreeing on the entire block of issues, there are also several blocks there. you just need to date. and at a snail's pace. let contrary to our expectations, when we are waiting for a breakthrough, but still move forward and look at the last. we had minsk. uh, agreements were negotiated. which result zero zero no agreement the agreement was signed. you see, medinsky makes a statement from time to time, i re-read it yesterday and here we are talking