now without a baseball cap, he made a statement today that they only recognize the international borders of ukraine in 1991. that is, as if you understand that it completely contradicts everything that, that is, if they transmitted these proposals, then they are this statement. here they also win doses. and you and i, so to speak, as if, uh, we are talking. oh, what is this happening, this is it, how and what michael is please, and what is another clear example of the fact that you need to be attentive to the words, understand them completely, and not snatch bits from the text. i had a wonderful experience today. at first, i didn’t understand very well in the morning, and then now people who watered me with all the swear words. now, in connection with this, colleagues are beginning to offer condolences to me in the same language with these events. there are no grounds for condolences and for alarm. the ukrainian side has finally

formulated its point of view. since this point of view has been voiced, you know there are little nuances in diplomatic negotiations. if we are something we take it as a basis, if we seriously agree on something, we can agree, then we don’t say it, we don’t say it out loud. accordingly, this is some draft, which will continue to be straightened, well, mr. rakhami straightened in the other direction. it is clear that it frightened a lot of people who heard such a wording, the decrease in the intensity of the chernivtsi and kiev directions, yuri ivanovich podlyako, two days ago, in my opinion, or maybe a day, i should have publicly shown that the russian federation is implementing redeployment of troops in order to finally put an end to this lawlessness that the ukrainian military is doing in the donbass in order to make a cauldron closing these troops there. and for this. naturally. it is necessary to transfer money on friday

, general rutskoi spoke about this completely. quite right, that is, they talked about it, they talked about it, but vladimir rostislavovich medinsky, as i understand it, gave it some diplomatic connotation, well, wonderful. here is an offer now. now we will express our point of view, which will be more intelligible more understandable and maybe the negotiations will continue. i don't see the nature of negotiations sometimes, and we generally went through this in our recent history of the last eight years, that they, in my opinion, can continue. in general, endlessly, well, the enforcement of peace continues until it brings peace, or until there is no one to force anyone to peace. in addition, in addition, a wonderful phrase sounded. i don't know if this is true or fake. sorry. now we have a very tense information environment, which supposedly someone somewhere you know in the telegram channel you read removed the requirements to do. well, nothing is heard about

this first. and secondly, i immediately remembered the wonderful words of the left left hand, mr. kolomoisky, promise them anything you want to hang up later, i think this is a useful approach, because each rule must be applied to the one who professes it. important questions. you have touched. we won't go through all of them. and now, of course, just the fact that another statement, which is there in istanbul, uh, sounded, which coupled with what mr. medinsky said and with the missed beginning and end of what he said, that this was only a proposal by the ukrainian side was perceived as something like that. here is the total. well , something like this is what the deputy minister of defense said. e, fomin, i will remind you now, i will remind you of these words and, accordingly, we will also discuss this part, please listen carefully. due to the fact that the negotiations on the preparation of a non-nuclear treaty treaty for ukraine, as well as the

provision of ukraine to ukraine a guarantee security are moving into practice, taking into account the principles condemned during today's meeting by the ministry of defense of the russian federation in order to increase mutual trust and create the necessary conditions for further negotiation and achievement of the ultimate goal of agreeing on the signing of the high-quality above-mentioned treaty. a decision was made to radically reduce military activity in the kiev and chernihiv directions, we proceed from the fact that relevant key decisions will be made in kiev and conditions must be created for further normal operation. on this occasion, too, there are a lot of all sorts of worries and emotions. and yes, and maybe this is the most important moment, but because, of course, what was said by the human general on

friday, no one remembers anymore, uh, everyone looks at him, but nevertheless, nobody remembers what he says about this, which day everyone reacts to what is said here and now how it should be perceived. how do you perceive it? well , first of all, let's still start with the main thing, this is none other than the deputy minister of defense of that the minister himself, who somehow quite rightly said in 2 hours. before that, as if he set specific tasks, that is, imagine that these two people did not coordinate with each other. uh, these messages are impossible impossible, and the second. it is absolutely certain, of course, that this is stating what has been happening for 2 weeks 2 weeks. we are holding the group in kiev , we are not letting it get out, and accordingly we are conducting a search. uh, intelligence activities. that is, in fact, we have reduced that military activity for a long time simply because, well, we completed the task. and thirdly, i consider this statement in general. wait, now let's move on to the third one, when you say that we actually completed the task near kiev. and to ask you a question, what was

the task, as you said many times and we wrote and half- heartedly, and i and everyone we talked about it. the main task was to initially block the grouping around kiev, to prevent it from moving anywhere from there , not to be transferred there, not under kharkov, let alone towards the donbass, or to odessa, here’s the airborne gastomil. he meant uh from himself represented the nail, the nail with which this grouping was nailed to kiev at that time on behalf of those people who ask questions on this matter on the second point. i’ll still ask you then, what now makes us believe that if we nailed it with this nail, and now this nail, we, as it were, are either pulling it out, or that now this group will not jerk anywhere from there. after all, i have not heard that e guarantees of non-use of this grouping, in the same donbass, somehow sounded like it was said that one should hope for this like, well, that's the wording. we're talking while negotiations. i'm talking about military activities, firstly, for a month. this grouping is very

seriously rolled out. they made several attempts to attack with available reserves. they received a very serious defeat. they lost a huge amount of equipment and within the framework of the general military-strategic situation. they can’t attack anywhere now; moreover, now the tasks that our group is coping with, are already quite sure that our kks is coping, because that they decided a very large number. eh, as if the goal is final and the third moment. yes, the main point of the third, i consider this statement, most likely from a high degree of probability, as a concession to the organizer of the negotiations, the president of turkey, because we remember. how much importance has passed on to turkey, because these negotiations are also held by erdogan, who is considered our partner, who emphasizes this, who has shown this in general many times, although doing other things too. there was some kind of baksheesh, you know this gift under the name of the military strategic situation is wrapped in a diplomatic candy wrapper

peacekeeping. as a matter of fact, this is what it is. that is. we called those things that in military language are called, as it were, stabilization of the front by the fact that we are just all this business. uh, so to speak, we have reduced our military activities; nowhere does it say that we are stopping hostilities; nowhere does it say that we are doing something to stop; nowhere does it say that we are changing targets. that is, we remember what khasavyu is. it has nothing to do even the slightest repeat. i am considering the deputy minister's statement. solely as a diplomatic uh, nod to turkey and since you said this word, i want to remember what you wrote on your social network, you wrote that if it is this, i will not remain silent, since you say that this is not this somehow. i have a reputation for sure. i can never let it happen suddenly there is some kind that i can't see. no threat that we went through once and the country can't afford to go through it a second time. i'll add it to you. we are it did not pass once. i participated in the war, which

we went through for 10 years, and then we kind of know what happened, and so on and so forth, so many people who are asking questions now. they are not asking from an empty place, and the afghans and chechens went through all this and i went through all this. and these are normal pertinent questions. it is important when asking these questions to focus and listen carefully to the answers. yes , yegor, i will add a little bit so that mr. medinsky will now say that and this does not mean, as it were, a decrease in activity at the kiev training direction does not mean termination. fire. this is understood by the remnant, mr. medina, explaining, as it were, this position, regarding the military side. everything has been said here with regard to the diplomatic country, and the second so -called concession to the ukrainian side, which was designated by the gentleman. medinsky had a principled agreement to arrange themselves between mr. zelensky and mr. putin, which, of course, almost immediately began to paint as something so indecent from our country. but there, what was

said. it was clearly stated there that the summit will take place when they are ratified, when they are initialed, that is, the agreed text of a comprehensive agreement, which will spell out all the points and the denocification and recognition of the lpr of the dpr of crimea and delilitarization all together, and the lord first capitulation, then themselves, absolutely at first, not just capitulation , initialing, that is, agreeing on a complete agreement on this, and only then a summit, where the signature will be put, but mr. rahamia speaking and saying that we only recognize the border ukraine in the ninety-first year. he himself nullified the possibility of such a holding. since you are talking about it. and you have an understanding within the framework of this negotiation secret. we drew the attention of our viewers to the fact that all this should be treated as tactics. i would even say the negotiating strategy of both sides. and what then is the negotiating strategy of ukraine if certain proposals are transmitted from one side, and from the other

side. they are refuted in the public space. what is the main strategy ukraine consists of several elements. the first maximum dragging out of time and the second attempt to create at least some kind of victory is an attempt to draw for ukraine, i must say honestly that part of ukraine is already on this news today. well, they really don’t need much to start pooping, but in general, victory is already the quality of this task. they fulfilled the ukrainian country to the extent they created by failing to create victory on earth. they created some kind of temporary diplomatic oh not so ghost of a temporary diplomatic victory which, of course, will dissipate after some time, but by that time they come up with something else, that is, it turns out again to be talking about two realities, absolutely one, the reality that the ukrainian delegation is negotiating and writing some proposals that are still on did not become any clauses of the treaties on the other side. they , for their audience, which lives in a completely different cocoon, and who will not pay attention to this, say no. we took a tough

stance, and so we won, and so they started the americans call them from the outside and they themselves call the americans and it starts all over again, start all over again. yes, it's important, because i may be, we're talking about it too. yes, maybe some part in ukraine is jumping there, but a large number of representatives of ukrainian politicians perceive this as a victory. on the contrary, it’s absolutely obvious in vain that i explain why, because it ’s not only gerashchenko, moreover, there are also ministers, i explain why, because zelensky’s statement, which he made just a week ago, that we can only talk about the situation on february 24 about the withdrawal of troops. now, in principle, this is not even in the discourse in that parallel reality that you are talking about, ukraine is advancing contour ukraine is fighting back positions. this parallel reality has reparations in this parallel reality there are all these things that are actually, now this is also very important at this round of negotiations, and the third point was not

very correct. it seems to me that they said about khasavyurt that it is important to convey to ordinary people no khasavyurt, i remind you that when he spoke, uh, shoigu, he spoke about the first stage of the operation. he is within the first stage. he indicated that they destroyed the navy , destroyed the infrastructure there by 8%, but there are still ground forces, and the second very important point. let's remember that these proposals, about which medinsky also said, did not pay attention to this, will be transferred to the president. i just remember the tasks that the president announced when he addressed several times to 95% of those dreams, sorry. they are suggestions the diplomatic group of ukraine does not fight with these theses of the president. the problem is that the media, in pursuit of speed , really wrote in the headlines. the medina colon russia does not oppose the european union there and everything else is an element of information manipulation, therefore no khasavyurt demilitarization genocification that they really

want to encircle the main group in the donbass as soon as possible and, it seems to me, destroy it is absolutely obvious. naturally, the diplomatic process. it’s based on this, you ask, it’s also a very important moment when there was a terrible situation with the torture of our soldiers yes, the murders filmed on camera, which he said in diplomatic diplomatic, although well, we ourselves understand that it was necessary in a different way, probably in others furnish he said, a strong protest. although everyone is well aware that this resolute protest. this is that these killers will be found and, accordingly, only diplomacy will be over them, especially in turkey, therefore no panic, this is very important for the guys who are now performing combat missions. uh, there are no concessions, no rewinds, and even more so no khasavyurt journalists. calm down this topic is being promoted as far as i am. uh, by the way, i understand e about uh cruel treatment of captives. and i'm saying, not

only about the video there of the last days, these videos fill us up from the first day, and as far as i understand, mr. medinsky said that the ukrainian side also stated that they are will investigate and so on and so forth . as far as this can be trusted, to what extent the ukrainian side controls anything at all, including including the national battalion and including, perhaps even now, some parts of the armed forces. this is, uh, a separate question, but here it arises, a very good one. more precisely , not that good. but you said the word panic. i would still not talk about panic moods. i don't see any panic. i see anxiety, i see, i hear. they write it to me. i'm getting anxiety, which is normal. it right. and a lot of things we went through in our lives and people who worry about our guys there. who are fighting and dying, and the people who have risen throughout the country this month to support this with these z and have the right. they have the right to

worry, worry, ask questions. it 's okay. the main thing is that these questions should be answered from the appropriate levels, and here is another important question that is asked and something needs to be answered, that for all the importance of negotiations and diplomacy and anything, the question arises, what if the main and important goal of the operation was decency? and we've been saying for this month that what we're disinfecting is actually the essence of the entire regime, and not some thugs running around. uh, somewhere there, or some of them were running, already disposed of in the national battalions, that this is, as it were, such a regime. now they say, people, we are talking about an agreement with the regime. and then they ask, that is, all these avakov zelensky gerashchenki and so on. they will remain artyom

, uh, you know, uh, in the history of mankind there has already been one decification. this was the delocification of germany, which our country carried out, but the question is: what is the difference here? certification, germany from the genocification of ukraine, it is that the great german culture was not limited exclusively to nazism, there was also schiller kant goethe mozart beethoven is a huge culture. therefore, they took out nazism left, germany we recently, not so long ago , talked with one pole, and we also discussed this topic of denazification. he told me, the following we agreed with him, that if we honestly carry out the identification of ukraine before end, then there will be no ukraine, because the whole essence of the ukrainian state is chauvinism and non- nazism. therefore, if the deficiencies

are carried out to the end, then that’s it, because then it’s about, that there will be no ukraine, because there is nothing there except petlyura bandera shukhevych and these modern neo-nazis don’t exist, these are people. what about the people who are waiting for us? today ukraine represents itself. uh, such an option is someone elitist religious from a semi-satanic sect , so, therefore, we must deal with this, and the people of us are there waiting people are afraid that russia will come and then leave. people cannot be disappointed by those people who today are zombified in this terrible nazi propaganda, and i mean about civilians, not about the nazis themselves. and these people need to be treated by these people, these people need to be provided with psychiatric help. i really need to liquidate the nazis, but i asked you, or rather i broadcast the question to you, which in my

opinion. fair enough people ask, if you're talking about some negotiation agreements themselves and anything, how you will treat, that is, roughly speaking, if you have a mentally insane person in the next room, as in our case, then either you, so to speak, are some of him. well, you surrender to treatment by force, either you negotiate with him, and he continues at your door one thing does not interfere with the other, to turn off the whole here, not nazism, turn off this brain processing, turn off this propaganda, turn off the zombification of the population. needed in the liberated territories, uh, and that's it. sorry russian land. it is necessary to establish russian power there. and yes. within 10-12 years, then a real denotification will take place. when the information policy and the educational program are changed, for which, if this is an agreement with the current ukrainian government, it will be changed with

this in no ukrainian government, no agreement is possible, because any ukrainian power will be deceived by any conversation, perhaps an agreement. we will start negotiations. we negotiate for the sake of negotiations, but nothing more than serious no one is going to sign documents with this power, because they are not able to sign anything. they will not sign, nor before denotification. not under change in lrn. that's not what egor, i don't like everything you say, but because i live like this in the real world. i want you. remember that the deputy minister of defense said that we are reducing activity near kiev, because work will be carried out there to prepare for the signing of some documents, and people have heard this fact. and here is elena vladimirovich that the turks do not think so. by the way , i can tell you how the tour is considered, how the turks think, because the day before the start of negotiations in

istanbul i succeeded. uh, in doha, the capital of qatar, at an international conference to talk with three guests from turkey very briefly. this is culusia, carminista. defense of turkey mevlut. what is the minister of foreign affairs of turkey and in more detail with ibrahim kolin, who is erdogan's adviser to erdogan, whom you have now seen on the screen next to erdogan. here, i will say exactly from e, their personal impressions after talking with them, in particular erdogan's adviser, that they were optimistic ahead of time. that is, i got the impression that turkey was counting on some progress in these negotiations, and these proposals that are being voiced now were already known to the turkish leadership, ahead of time, and here. i agree with vladislav, who said that turkey needed some statements that could be

interpreted, at least, as the success of the turkish diplomacy success of the turkish mediation. i'll say more. their mood was such that this was, apparently, one of the conditions for the continuation of this mediation. that is, it was necessary to say something, to do something, to say something, so that it was perceived as a movement forward. and here are some things that already existed on earth. prior to that, in the region of kiev and chernigov, they were presented with absolutely some success. although in reality little has changed and this is actually professionalism. russian diplomacy and especially russian military diplomacy, therefore, i would urge you not to panic here, but on the other hand, you need to carefully look at the reasons. why did these informational manipulations go, but purely psychologically, when the head of the russian delegation voices the position of the ukrainian side with his own lips, people experience cognitive

dissonance. and the extreme phrase is forgotten, of course, and they put into the mouth of the heads of russian diplomacy what he said about the ukrainian position. here, probably, and the negotiator is worth something. uh, be more careful. to approach such things, because the headings, and the conclusions, they sometimes change places and in the information field they no longer understand. who said what? and who voiced what position, in fact. this is a very important very important addition to what i started the program with. and what all the colleagues were talking about. now let 's continue talking about it. it has many more, but there are other e-facets and you spoke about them internationally, what will they say to whom in e in washington and what will they tell to whom? where else is the news just now. uh, french president emmanuel macron is holding a telephone conversation with russian leader vladimir putin, the francspress agency reports, citing the elysee palace.

a telephone conversation began after seventeen local time, that is, 18:00 moscow that is, as i understand it, it continues now, and this is to the question that these negotiations are also important because, for their own reasons, erdogan , for their macron want to be a negotiator for their own people, and for one reason or another, perhaps some progress is important in some way for relationship with them. this is all very important. there is also a lot of economics. you will continue to discuss all this. we continue to work live live discussed, well, questions, of course, continue to pour in, by the way, a very good example of what so many people. even here they are sitting. now they are watching the program. they listen to your friends, explanations, and still many snatch what they want, but to hear. and why is it and why is that, though? in general, answered a lot of

questions, but nevertheless, i understand why this is what is happening is someone’s head, and someone’s heart feels that this whole story, it is much more multilayered and multifaceted, and negotiations with the ukrainian delegation and turkey’s participation in them and macron’s calls, and that’s all. this is an international confrontation, economic, and so on and so forth. and very many parties solve their tasks within the framework of which ukraine does not bother them at all and the negotiations do not bother them at all and progress. don't care at all want an example, please, boris is our beloved johnson who is already due to the fact that many believe progress in the negotiations, well, about what some joyfully jump and celebrate the victory of others. they say that something is not right. let's listen to boris johnson, this is very revealing, please. british example boris johnson said that a ceasefire agreement in ukraine would not be enough to lift british sanctions against

russia pressure on putin should be stepped up, both through further economic measures and by providing military assistance to ukraine to ensure that russia reverses its well. now watch this is called watch your hands on the issue that everyone is playing their own game, if erdogan, for his own reasons and macron, for his own reasons, needs progress or at least the appearance of progress in the negotiations, then johnson, for his reasons, needs the appearance that there is not - no, we continue to put pressure on and talk about the fact that economic measures and pressure on putin should be intensified, and so on and so forth in this sense, given that quite a lot of economic measures and measures of pressure on us have already been taken. and he wants more. at the same time, by the way, he is talking about some kind of ceasefire, no ceasefire agreement. no, that is, he will also instill, but it's okay, then, he is jones so, what other possibilities are there in reality, if he does not puff out his cheeks

to press further in terms of economic measures, or what he does. well, anyway, let's record, as you rightly noted, that after all, the main real negotiations. perhaps now only between russia and the united states of america, and everything else is such proxy negotiations on the basis of which we can to draw conclusions about how to balance the situation within the framework of serious conversations, because once again i am talking with ukraine with the european union with turkey, there is no point in negotiating, there is only one of our opponents on the other side, with whom they will be fought. well, you can write them down here in that part, uh, but this is the first point that we must understand in this regard as well. really. i agree that people, uh, rush at the words that were said today in this regard as well. i think it might there is also a certain lesson for our delegation that

we must be very careful about what you say and with what face you say it, because people read and perceive it. so, uh, it’s just, by the way, it’s also interesting that if in the morning it seemed that the main question was - i’m returning, just to the topic of sanctioning the economy, the main topic is disconnection from gas, now everyone has already forgotten about gas. now everyone is discussing what medinsky said. although colleagues in the studio tried to clearly explain that, in fact, medinsky only announced the position of the ukrainian side. this is no longer a step-by-step plan. ah, the end of this whole story. yes, that is in this regard. this is also the question of how our consciousness reacts to the latest news and forgets what it seemed to you a few hours ago. eh, the basics are also such a curious moment, as for my own issue of sanctions, i’ll say it again, this is the main topic in the morning, it hasn’t gone anywhere. in

fact, she hasn’t gone anywhere. we’ll discuss what you like and this topic hasn’t gone to you in terms of to show that, well, roughly speaking, we didn’t forget what we thought about in the morning, of course, we prepared in the morning and did not change our minds about preparing for this conversation about gas, which we will now move on to, because johnson johnson. but ours is not worried about inflating yet and you yes, and that means yesterday we discussed vladimir putin’s instruction that by march 31 there should be work to find measures, we know that the european union, like the big seven, has already announced that they will not pay in rubles, and yesterday and today commented several times. this is the press secretary of the president of the russian federation . i will remind you of these comments now and discuss them. what options please. no one will supply gas for free. it just can't be paid. it is possible only in rubles. this is not a call to companies, not a declaration, but companies must understand the changed situation that has

arisen in the conditions of the economic war waged against the russian federation, companies must understand that they just need to buy rubles for their currency for euros for dollars and rubles pay for gas. well, now, actually, here's to your immediate topic. as you said, and dmitry peskov, in another comment on this matter, said this, well, more humorously, and i think more clearly. uh, no money, no gas, in this case no rubles no gas. accordingly, what are you as a specialist in this field. you see, options for the development of events from our side from their side and so on. if the clinch is in what how long and with what consequences and so further, please, well, in fact, we understand that further sanctions, returning to jones's statement, which can be applied to russia. they are no longer possible without causing serious damage to the europeans themselves. and accordingly, we are directly concerned here with gas supplies, because this is the most painful for the europeans. topics are obvious.

what is our interest in maintaining trade with europe is the inflow of currency that we receive