who needs large stable spaces. so here is financial speculative capital with hands, biden. today, yesterday, by the hands of other people, tomorrow, by the hands of third parties, they are trying to destroy russia , firstly, for the maximum aitization of the world again. this task is not hidden by anyone and is hidden by the bideno, among other things, because after the destruction of russia it will be impossible to destroy it in this construction you outlined. when you say, they set the task of destroying russia, which is meant by the destruction of russia here. well, now sit in front tv and they say, well, that's what it means to destroy russia russia or in haiti, the situation is when maidan occurs, or he or maidan occurs in ukraine as comrade biden, he speaks directly, i appeal to the russian people. yeah well, there in other words, so that he overthrew this power. yes, that is, in order for hatization to occur, it is clear that the conditions will creep away. notice from these he let it slip, he stayed, he said too early

a strategic plan, it was all thought out in advance, that is, this is a common goal, which he just let slip about in advance, which is not now was supposed to sound gave a signal to someone, but to everyone else, who are not the ones who react. he says, guys, guys, this is all not for you, don’t worry about such a dog whistle, but, but further on it’s clear that the maidan of the russian federation is the collapse of the russian federation , the realization of an old dream, and all these figures can continue to take china seriously. well , in general, somehow, the maydaun is everything, it seems, just now they are more for it on the road, and the professional baydauns are on the road. so new they will bring in new ones. ok. we continue to work live very interesting. i

watch sometimes. here's how the comments come. well, i was there on social networks, which i manage to look at in advertising, even on the phone, that some regular people joined us on the air. and then there were these questions. artyom, what's with the negotiations? what is happening there? what it is? well, therefore, in a sense, now we will have to , you know, somehow reset to zero a little and for you to join again and we are so short. uh, briefly. it means to brief them, as colleagues say, but for starters, including for them, and the macron’s conversation with putin, uh, according to the kremlin , concerned a lot of issues, including those that we discussed here, and they discussed there, well, as it were this is normal, everyone is worried about putin and macron. we touched upon the issues of transition to payment for gas supplies in rubles. here, apparently, vladimir vladimirovich explained to him where this one window is, how it is in the federal center, what is being formalized further than putin’s macron, they discussed the situation in ukraine, including taking into account, round of negotiations concluded in istanbul. ukraine, apparently, the macron was also worried, like many of our viewers, apparently vladimirovich owned everything, as it were, explained to him. eh, putin, in a conversation

with a macron, emphasized that in order to resolve the difficult situation in mariupol, the militants. nationalists must lay down their arms. uh, i don’t know if he added to this, well, whoever doesn’t lay down his arms is, accordingly, how the meeting with bandera is rewarded putin and macron continued to exchange views on the situation around ukraine, including taking into account summit talks. and putin informed the macron about the measures being taken by the armed forces of the russian federation to provide gum with assistance in ensuring the evacuation, which is indicative, apparently, even for the macron. it is clear that the armed forces of ukraine cannot make any efforts along the gum corridors and humanitarian aid, and in this sense, vlad is for the people who have joined us again with questions. and here is the most important thing from today's what was said at these negotiations, so that you note how how to relate to this by what he says, that's what it was. well, i believe that the negotiations, firstly , cannot be considered outside of today's speech by the minister of defense, which, in fact, was a prologue, because the nerve that was voiced was the one

that the people heard. she was nevertheless voiced by his deputy, that is, she agreed with him. it seems to me that the people heard, er, not heard. the first and last phrase of the speech of the gentleman is that this is only the first proposal of ukraine, according to the speech of the minister. defense. the first the stage of the operation ends with the first rout of the groupings. the task is ongoing, everything will be completed from the point of view of negotiations, it was said that , firstly, our demand remains unchanged , the ukrainian demands were voiced, which they put forward to us for journalists, and it was said that in the form of our good will, we are in the kiev direction . uh, as if why niggas we uh, reduce our activities, so that in fact. everyone who is somehow following this situation is, well, sort of the status of q for the last 2 weeks, because during the operation

, once again, as i said, we recorded a grouping in kiev. we keep it on nails. and here, in fact, this nail. we broadcast in the form in which it sounds then people write. why are we withdrawing troops? this is very interesting. people somewhere already, so to speak, in their heads were surprised that we were withdrawing troops from somewhere. first, i did not see any withdrawal of troops anywhere. if, however , some telegram channels, well, you know, concoct now. eh, marches, as you and i understand, this is it's just a matter of two minutes, because there were hundreds of them now the inspector was. you move will now be issued for the withdrawal of troops. at the same time, i can say that its place is a strategic point of view for us. well, in general, it would now, in principle, be absolutely logical to transfer part of the force from near kiev to the south, where we need to solve the main tasks, where we solve them. and this is the reinforcement it allows. you sleep with the southeast in mind, and then, as if according to plan, as they say, the minister of defense, in fact, i, uh, why ask? well, it's all pretty recent.

it happened. i, too, did not know anything in advance what would sound there in the afternoon in istanbul, and i continue to grieve about it in fact. i tried to check myself now. i did not hear. uh, here in the previous rounds. maybe i missed something, you can correct me then. i have not heard in the previous rounds, and the consent was somehow recorded by the ukrainian side that they are ready to consider neutral statuses, demilitarization there, and so on. that is, in principle, this is what caused this today. well, uh, how would the alarm, on in fact, things were voiced that had not really been noticed before against the background of what they had gone over. well, the journalists took advantage of the moment, what did they say? medinsky is very important about the progress. this sounds very strange, but this progress shows that kiev and the political leadership of kiev well, at least more or less at least some kind of reality, is still trying. come i will explain why, because these are the points that were discussed in the previous three rounds of turkey's negotiations in this round. they were not

in discourse, you understand that arachmia gizavuiroval their own, actually agreements. we will not make it clear now, they work for their audience. let's be frank, if they confirm at least one point and there are many of their own natsiks about this. by the way, now they are talking about the fact that there is, including the possibility, there is a nazi coup and so on, the overthrow of zelensky and it will not work at all to come to an agreement with these nazis. it's 100%, there's a war of annihilation, incomplete surrender, so in fact, the fact that this has already appeared at the level of some real proposals, drawn up on paper. this progress, no one says that these proposals will again be accepted, accepted, and so on, but the very fact that kiev is going forward and kiev is very important itself, trying to save face. he says look. this is very important, but a neutral status is a non-nuclear status, otherwise it will not. by the way, this is very important. this is actually from zelensky and military exercises and so on, and these security guarantors all things are still in that parallel reality

two weeks ago in their heads. the ukrainians did not exist. now we see that this process is taking place, but this is a therapeutic process, it is very long, and therefore in this case, well, it sounds very strange, in fact, positive signals. this is a positive signal that there, well, at least something is happening somewhere, there were negotiations somewhere. not so much with ukraine as with turkey over ukraine because, yes, by an act of negotiations, we made comrade erdogan big a gift, much more than that, and we can get something else from him if you can. uh-huh, actually, look very interesting. this is the question of how someone sees what is happening with us. so some say. oh, what does it mean, that's what the clients are taking away, filming, what's going on. now watch the official representative of the united states of america commenting on russia's statement about what it means to withdraw troops in the kiev direction

any movement of russian troops from the vicinity of kiev is a redeployment, not a withdrawal. that is, you kind of understand, uh, what confuses many of our citizens, for example, a from america looks completely different. that is, they understand that this is not a conclusion. and the relocation, and in our time this is what is happening. yes? eh, artyom, well, let's calm people down, let's calm people down from the age of eighteen. twenty who could calm down. and who does not calm down, this is already a seagull . what do you know, but vladimir vladimirovich putin does not idiot let's start with this, but, because he understands perfectly. this is what is at stake and everyone knows perfectly well. a comic option for russia is the path to disaster, therefore, well, there will be no disaster, therefore, it will be, everything. finished.

that's how it's supposed to be. this can be done. so you know , sergey is now unique in not a single conflict, and russia under putin has not lost, a unique moment in the history of our program. you know, i have nothing to add to what has been said. information channel on the first continues its broadcast program. time will tell we are live. and just a few minutes ago, negotiations in istanbul between the ukrainian and russian delegations ended, and let's hear what the head of our delegation vladimir medinsky and deputy deputy head of the ministry of defense of the russian federation alexander fomin said following the talks. let's see negotiations are over. with the ukrainian side negotiations were constructive, we received a proposal from ukraine for consideration. clearly articulated their position

on the inclusion of the treaty, these proposals will be considered in the near future and reported to the president and an appropriate answer will be given. for my part, i can say that we are also taking two steps, there are wells of conflict. here is one of the positions that the deputy minister of defense for military affairs for political affairs will now announce, i will say immediately after that i will announce a brief statement by the ministry of defense of the russian federation due to the fact that negotiations on the preparation of a treaty on neutrality without a nuclear providing ukraine with a security guarantee to ukraine, they are moving into practice, taking into account the principles decided during today's meeting by the ministry of defense of the russian federation in order to increase mutual trust and

create the necessary conditions for further negotiations and achieving the ultimate goal of agreeing on the signing of the aforementioned treaty. a decision was made to radically reduce military activity in the kiev and chernihiv directions, we proceed from the fact that appropriate the main decisions and conditions for further normal work should be created. the general staff of the armed forces of the russian federation will report in more detail about the decisions taken when our delegation returns to moscow. well, i would also like to address the representatives of ukraine and urge ukraine to strictly comply with the geneva convention. in particular, with regard to the humane treatment of

prisoners of war, we call for the exclusion of the practice of torture applied to our russian prisoners of war and, uh, call for that the ukrainian side take comprehensive measures to eliminate this practice. thank you yes, i would like to add, regarding the issues of the meeting of the head of state. from the very beginning, we said that this meeting is possible, perhaps when the agreement is ready for signing and worked out by the negotiators and foreign ministers, that is, the proposed format was the following: first the agreement is being prepared, then the agreement. approved by the negotiators endorsed by the foreign ministers for meetings. thereafter the possibility of a meeting of heads of state to sign this treaty is being discussed. this is not an

easy question. moreover, it met with the possibility of a multilateral one with the participation of guarantor states, uh, of peace and security in ukraine. however, we are after today. we agreed on a meaningful conversation and propose a solution according to which the meeting of the heads of state is possible, while photographing the treaty by the foreign ministers. moreover, at the time of this initialing and consideration of the details of the treaty, it is possible discussing various political nuances and details in this way. if the treaty is worked quickly and the required compromise is found, the possibility of making peace will be much closer. so we are told that the opportunity to make peace is getting closer ivan pavlovich but against the background of the fact that today at the conference call today our minister of defense said that the first stage of the company has ended, and we are moving on to the second

stage, which is connected with the cleansing of donbass am i correct i understand that the ukrainian side undertakes to stop hostilities in the direction of kiev and chernigov. we don't advance. they are not trying to knock us back and this allows us to concentrate forces in order to defeat the nazis in the donbass, you know, it was too easy yes, that if the ukrainian side does not show any activity and allows us to increase activity on the other flank. of course not. in general, i have not heard the ukrainian side yet. i don't know what they really meant, trying to agree on a position, as i understand it, yes, i since the position of the russian federation was initially too very specific, specific things were assumed. if the ukrainian side agrees to find things, which is doubtful, but in some aspects they have reached mutual understanding. and from the side, just these two steps. e chernigovskaya kiev direction. they say that a and there was no task. as they said, the occupation of ukraine

was not such a task initially. do you remember this clearly said right away, and deal with the nazis, who are still sitting in the cauldron and sitting, uh, in mariupol, what will mariupol produce after that? no, of course, yes, therefore, and this is in the direction, apparently, and the ukrainian side did not even raise questions. they dunked their hands on them, and prefer to say so, so that all this is resolved on the battlefield. so, ah, in this situation, hmm, it is necessary to note a very specific, as it were, statement of the ministry of defense. this applies primarily to civilians and concerns the international community, it is clearly stated. here we are reducing the fighting. and you are in answer, do it. we'll see if she does anything . time was said to be a multiple of the fighting. here it arises, if they do not reduce them, as they promised, then we, of course, will not be silent here,

the most important question arises. the most important question. will uh, zelensky, his team control their own armed forces? and us guys? no. that is, you may be such a cunning move on the part of which hope, since the governing bodies are located in kiev, maybe they are in kiev indeed, in some way they can influence their rabid thugs. well, the fact that they are in the south cannot influence them. this is absolutely iskander well , this is such a statement, as it were, which can be interpreted, but in different ways i saw it. e. soon the liberation of donbass to be honest. i would agree with you. let's move it a little further, but within the framework of the analysis. i think that these negotiations should not be viewed and treated outside of a broader context. well, including what is happening with europe now, look after all, if we take by and large, we did three actions. the first children launched a special operation and the

united states said, and we are in the country, all their support is ukraine, it is a special one. this is just weapons for the infantry, so to speak, nothing more. they are not going and are not ready to participate in hostilities. this is understandable, europe remains one on one, well, with us with our operation and so on. america out, second act. i think that it is even more terrible is the translation. so to speak, for rubles of gas, and then on the list of oil and that's it. the rest is clear. what can it say. and that we will carry their sanctions in fact, they will begin to understand that the sanctions will not work more than that, and that they have offered us now the third moment. indeed, we, well, have actually ground down the military infrastructure in ukraine, that is, in fact , our positions have greatly strengthened. and i think what is happening now in the negotiations between ukraine and the ukrainians. it is already there. well, as if the result is a

derivative of what is changing in the minds of our european partners. basically i think that the europeans turned on the back. and this is reflected, among other things, in the position of ukraine, which speaks. yes, yes, of course, we are ready to yield here. here they are ready, so ready for it, but we don’t need people, we are not bloodthirsty for us. why do we need to kill everyone, we declared that we need denocification. does this mean no criminal code of any ukrainian nation? there will be no nationalism, there will be smoke-militarization. we have already implemented to a significant extent and will complete these values ​​are removed targets remain targets remain, please we can create there some kind of corridor, all these banderas go there to lvov and so on. please inflame there they are dealt with. for god's sake, here in this territory. here is the center of europe, oh, the center of ukraine, the east is the south, well,

there will be no ukrainian nation there, the ukrainian state, maybe little russians, maybe, well, even i would call it differently, but there will be no nation, there will be no nazis, but there will be a nation there will be no, a derivative of this construction, nations they will build up nationality. you're just not proportional to michael yes, the nation is like a certain a structure that is sharpened against russia. here it will not be. this is the art of anti-russia, artificial structures that were created specifically to create problems for us, it will not, if this can be done without, so to speak, continuing intense hostilities. so it must be done. what's the problem? well, it’s logical, mikhail, you agree that it was the decision to sell gas for rubles, which, among other things, changed the attitude of both europe and the world to this

issue of one of the components, but i, when they said here that europe included the back i of the media claim that they really could not include the front, because all their statements are all. this was not dictated by common sense. yes, that is, well, there is poland's position there. what is poland's position? ask a question. this is the american position and the task of the americans was to draw europe into it. here, in these hostilities, in the war, in fact, yes, yes, draw and she remains, she has not left the trip anywhere. there is a biden, his administration they will do everything possible to get there through poland through some kind of their own delay, and europe there, that is, for them these negotiations. if you think that the americans will positively assess them, they will not catch them on the assessment, we will not see this statement, therefore, on which this militant territory continues its there. nothing changes, nothing changes. what about negotiations? well, it's definitely a very important factor. and this is what many skeptics have said. there is no need for negotiations. yes, the position is changing, it must change, and it must change in the mind, which

negotiation. still, there is a result, which means our position at these negotiations. and the fact that we are reducing our activity in the kiev-chernigov direction does not mean at all that we have made some concessions. yes, so that it is not perceived as such. here we have made concessions. yes, there we will now concentrate our forces in the donbass for the sake of development. in recent days , we have not particularly tried to move in this direction in a big way, nothing is changing. please note that the ukrainian side. here come the first statements. they do not touch the military component at all, it was correctly noted. why don’t they do this, because any orders that the supreme commander-in-chief named zelensky issues today are unlikely to have a direct effect on the effect of direct action. this must be understood, and this applies not only to the national battalions, about which we are talking, this applies to the armed forces of ukraine in the ssu of the national battalions. what are nasvats, they joined, they are legalized in ukraine, they go to the composition, and forces, uh, the ministry of the interior and the armed forces forces of ukraine they dissolved there and if

zelensky is when they are ordered not to move. in this direction, they will be answered to him, then far away through these negotiations to show the whole world that zelensky does not control the army. this is litmus paper. here is the paper. can he do it or not? yes, roughly speaking, we are a serious test for verification, because it is natural for russia. we listen to our supreme goncomat, that in our army it will follow the orders of the minister of defense, there will be an order, not a step back, says the order to go forward will go forward all point we have a well-established system and understanding. how to fight. finally some direction for sure. this is the concentration of forces and finally and unconditionally adoption. there, uh, the order of the expulsion of all nazis and will and must be finished off. this fact is undeniable. the ukrainian side is the last to make political statements right away. here is the first information that went interesting that and they are ready for anything, but the implementation of the contract will take place. eh, the procedure. there holding referendum. they are already saying, a referendum, then

ratification in the parliaments of the guarantor countries and in the parliament of ukraine, the guys are in a state when they are fighting, fighting is going on throughout the country, how you will hold a referendum , quite legitimate questions arise, that is , this bullshit begins. i will say it this way, not a parliamentary expression then crimea sevastopol yes , they demand something for 15 years to discuss this issue. here is the statement. this is officially 15 years of discussion of crimea sevastopol this e of this time both sides are invited not to use the armed forces, but to resolve the crimean issue, but we were not going to do this not as an armed force. this is your territory. what a discussion of the status of crimea, sevastopol, the status of he, probably, and the presidents here to discuss in a personal format. they are already saying this for us. that is, at the same time it is said that a personal conversation of the president is possible only in the case when zelensky is essentially ready to sign an agreement, well, i call it capitulation. they call the peace treaty. now

in fact, many people are in such an emotional state with screams. that's all gone. nothing is missing. this site. we absolutely need, first of all, to conduct a dialogue about the exchange of prisoners of behavior towards prisoners, because everyone was outraged by the video that appeared this weekend. by the way, what the nazis did with the torture and execution of our prisoners, it influenced today's negotiations. in europe , he was noticed. and even if i’m not mistaken, i published, that is, the very russophobic build that always covered up any but crimes. even they are outraged by this. it probably has some effect too. and now let's look at the full text of the statement by the head of our delegation at the talks, vladimir medinsky, and then we will return to the news that is still coming. wait a second. sorry, but let's still, who are we

on the air working news come right at this moment. and that's what we talked about about those frames of terrible shots that shocked everyone, including in the west, and the bild turned to this attention. this is when our fighters were subjected to, tortured and killed by ukrainian military personnel and here is a statement by our russian special forces captured ukrainian military personnel who participated in the torture of soldiers of the armed forces of the russian federation reported today. vladimir shamanov we are talking about the citizens of ukraine sergei velichko, nicknamed chile and konstantin are not swords from the fan group of the local football club. metalist mish this is the news that we have captured the news is extremely important, because the video really shocked everyone. who lives in russia of all. who sympathizes with russia unfortunately. the west paid little attention to this. only today there was a statement from the un and they demanded an investigation into these horrors. however, it is not clear to the staff who should investigate all this, because

the statement is complete, which we need to look at right now, we'll see together. ready. here is the live stream. ask everyone. and we have received written proposals from the ukrainian delegation. uh, as i understand it, agreed with the leadership of ukraine which boils down to the following in short? ukraine is proclaimed a permanently neutral state under international legal guarantees. in order to implement a non-bloc, non-nuclear status , a list of guarantor states guaranteeing the security of ukraine is given below. these security guarantees do not apply to the territory of crimea and sevastopol, that is, ukraine refuses

to seek to return crimea to sevastopol by military means and declares that this is possible only through negotiations between diplomatic and and so on, of course, this does not correspond in any way to our position, but ukraine has formulated its own approach, and also does not apply to that part of ukraine which it is called separate areas of the donetsk luhansk regions. what are these separate regions formulate ukraine separately and what is the area of ​​these separate regions, russia formulates as she understands it? ukraine refuses to retreat into military alliances from the deployment of foreign military bases of contingents to conduct military exercises on the territory of ukraine without the consent of the states with the guarantor, including the russian federation here with for its part, the russian federation has no objection to ukraine's aspirations to join the european union. further,

the statuses are prescribed in some detail what the state guarantors should do, since ukraine becomes a neutral non-bloc state. the procedure for the entry into force of the treaty, the procedure for its provisional application, is prescribed. the procedure for changing the legislation and legal documents of ukraine in accordance with the constitution of ukraine well, what is emphasized again? controversial issues between russia and ukraine god crimea and sevastopol are resolved only through bilateral negotiations. ukraine also asks that the final decision be drawn up at a meeting of heads of state. well, on this occasion, i have already said that we are taking a step forward and are talking about the possibility of holding a meeting. heads of state within. e meetings of foreign ministers, when

initialing the treaty, it is necessary to do this with andreal. and to understand what we agreed on, after that the heads of the foreign ministry will initial him, and the heads of state, meeting for four in this way can resolve any remaining issues. this is by no means a provision of the treaty - this is a proposal by the ukrainian side, which we consider a constructive step towards finding a compromise, and which will be considered, russia will be given the appropriate answers. thank you. thank you very much. and to you pavlovich, well. surrender or not, the tasks that we announced are the status of crimea and donbass and beyond, permanent bloc neutral status. not me , some 10-15 - this is a permanent neutral status, the ukrainian side is ready to give a question there. they are traded. why recognize the dpr, the lpr are bargaining for our position, as vladimir medinsky said clearly

and understandably we recognized these states within their constitutional territories, that is