we cannot let him benefit from this horrendous aggression. we have some michael. uh, hotheads are afraid of negotiations, they say, why is it necessary? why does it need to have a certain reason for this? we have a bad experience in minsk including khasavyurt if words, we have a bad experience, so we will not allow it, but there in the west. they are much more afraid of these negotiations. and now they have an understanding there that they have surrendered ukraine; they don’t have such an understanding. you know what, and then, uh, why we sprinkle ashes on our heads about minsk. yes, we don’t are the subject is fulfilled because not fulfilled. yes, we can say this with our internal progress. we do not agree with the fact that somehow we had to behave differently. well, the situation was different then, and even now they are trying to convince them that in 1914 it was necessary to act differently, then it was necessary to carry out a special operation. you know, there is a time for everything, sometimes, if history does not tolerate the

subjunctive mood, we would go it is not known what happened. with how this operation would unfold, what happened is impossible. it's now here to move on a tracing paper of today, what is, that is, what is there in the west thinks, you know, based on a personal situation. we should not give a damn what they think, what they say, how they behave agree, but they never had such a reaction. they, on the contrary, always said negotiations negotiations. only oh, we don't need to give the negotiations an opportunity to let ukraine grow. it 's just already. well, you see, here is the fire and the word, even if it does not fit, because the fire is when some kind of resistance begins there. they are they can no longer resist anything. the main thing for us now is that we are discussing correctly this topic related to the operation and denocification, we need to include our society in this dialogue for the sake of it, because many do not understand. what it is? yes, we just understand the fight against nazism , we must explain that listen, here they

were carrying out their decommunization, as they called them. they demolished. monuments, well, now it is necessary that ukraine undertook the obligation to demolish all the monuments to the shukhevych banderekans. this is necessary to demand that the law be changed, the constitution should be completely prohibited by nazi symbols, not only in the form, but these basics, that the aidars agree, the ukrainian side is already changing the constitution, when it officially proposes the neutral status of the eternal, this is already a change in the constitution they are already ready to change the constitution they are comrades very cunningly, this is what everyone is afraid of. yes, everyone is afraid of it, you know what, i just want to understand now that they didn’t broadcast it. this is a filthy interview with zelensky, but he set it up there, yes, did the right thing, whoever looked there understands this experts. after all, this guy had already started talking. now. he always said that it

was a difficult process. he is a plant. the price is long, we need to provide a reference. and these people are just ready to change the constitution. but the question is again. i say do n't stop half way. if this process is long, it cannot be said that we will solve everything in one day in 3 days. there will be no nazis. they will hide there, go underground and organize. there these partisans by the way, the word is not use partizan - it was ours no one will draw no one will then be an iskander to the end a simple question, when the englishwoman stops blabbering, because this is her expression, well, negotiations are bad, not negotiations are also bad, to understand why she was not so worried about the negotiations. we must not forget one laboratory we have a war. well, or let's be softer, let's say against the confrontation. they are with ukraine, we have the united states and their satellites. ukraine is just another round

of this struggle. let's ask ourselves a question. what are we what we want from this round, how it should end for us and what do they want? peace to donbass is our position so, the teeth are zeroing out the military potential, right? the statement of our position is such that we can go to the end and you can not but talk to us. they refused us. even in communication. yes, we have shown. yes, we are not afraid of anything at all, and we are ready for anything . they were scared, scared, so if, uh, that would be the end of it, i think it's already. well, it would be a successful completion of this round, what they want, they want us to occupy ukraine and get stuck for a long time and forever. you could say we don't need to bathe. why should we

take on the economic burden that we want to carry? that's for everything. it's now pay pay, or what? and their own pocket for arranging life there, they arranged it for themselves, they arranged it for themselves, so to speak. that's all, especially now, as much as possible, laws on simplification of obtaining russian citizenship for citizens of ukraine removal of all administrative barriers, here who understands i want to stay there, let them stay. and who wants to join us. we are always happy to be ready to say two more words. that's because it's really unclear until the end of the first. what is it? yes, you have to understand. eh, about their position. look here. here, uh, there is such a kind of light version. why, uh, many people at one time in difficult times from russia left for better lives somewhere back. this is not a betrayal. well, people left for a better life, but even they are the biggest russophobes god forbid russia will prosper, then oh, it makes no sense to leave them. and that they left, then

they don’t like russia more than anyone, even more than well, i don’t speak for all of them, many of all who are there, so to speak, their western people. but from ukraine it’s not like that, it’s not just that they decided to immigrate back as a whole country. this is a betrayal, because they agreed to be a tool in their hands and agreed that they would kill russia. they agreed with this both now for them and now for them, uh. here is to admit that russia will be saved, that the god on whom they prayed. i mean literally the united states and on which they counted they threw and in fact, so to speak, will not fit for them. this is what donetsk already is, and betrayal is meaningless. well, this is our interpretation, in general, it is not clearly spelled out in our demands that ukrainians are enough by the head when they think what denociification is. this is the legislative rejection of all

nazi parties of processions, literature formed a process. germany, all mass media newspapers, magazines of radio stations, they were released only occupational power english. so i'm talking about their territory, because i'll say that's communist. no. this is what the british did. uh, to get a license, then in 5 years for some kind of publication in germany. it was an absolute whole story. that's because denotification is the re-education of an entire nation. uh, the assertion of opposite doctrines in the minds of you since childhood , without having to control these processes in ukraine. especially for you, it is possible to make someone urgent news has come and i ask you to comment on it. the new one is that the russian and belarusian delegations this year were not invited to the ceremony dedicated to the seventy-

seventh anniversary of the liberation of buchenwald. imagine what i can always say, because i repeat that europe, it turns out, has experienced an inferiority complex all these years, because it should have been grateful for its liberation. this barbaric black zigzag of world history, which is in their view of russia, and they were delighted about this. here now here i avenge the same thing i pro germans. although they really brought up a generation that hardly believes and even the majority cannot believe that their grandfathers committed such crimes. here but here is also a complex of humiliation. he probably played in them. and here it is, this is a complex of humiliations, not an invitation to our delegation, because there is one in the west. you know, i recently received two articles from a french professor. i don’t want to substitute him, who now correctly sets out everything and

this is one of the largest about this nazism. harmonists there e in sorbon and stuff and all that. there are these voices will be quietly. it seems to me to break through and already on all their mouths. don't put on a scarf. right now, even makin, an academician, a member of the goncourt academy of russian origin, has become a philologist writer. he gave an excellent interview in figaroz, well, in favor of russia, threats deprived the prize, which should have been awarded soon in bordeaux e hmm, they are confiscating books, subjecting them to ostrogism, and so on , europe has come to such a shame when their vaunted principles, therefore markelov is completely right what should we be now it is indifferent to their value system. she bit herself like a snake by the tail, because all these human ideas of an earthly paradise must bow under the weight of their own

sins, completely wonderful sin, the fall is already complete, this liberal idea. this is their democracy. here she faded. this is where we need another idea. we need a new one. uh, do n't, here's the old tail they have stories, but it should be, which will combine the universal faith and necessarily social justice with your experts. we will this topic discuss our programs. after the statement of our negotiators in istanbul, the news comes from the donbass, the denocification continues at the moment, the people's militia of the dpr is clearing the city of marinka from ukrainian nationalists. including the bodies of these same

nationalists who die, who are abandoned, who are shot by their own, are taken out for further burial, therefore no one canceled denazification at all, and it seems to me that there should not even be any doubts on this topic. and the fact that the kiev chernihiv direction was provided just the concentration of the fact, we are not going to bomb kiev yet. the information channel on the first continues its broadcast program. time will tell , we are working live, the humanitarian situation in mariupol is on the verge. disasters nationalists hold civilians, not letting them out and not giving them the opportunity to go through humanitarian corridors. and now, when people finally break through, the sight of ordinary bread brings real tears to people. most of mariupol is already controlled by the russian military. the russian army is advancing, surrounding the nationalists. they leave

the whole area and hastily step aside. azov steel for them. now there is a real threat of being destroyed in this environment, but it is obvious that with the threat of destruction by the command. tries to escape. yesterday they requested the evacuation of a mi-8 helicopter, this helicopter that flew behind the commanders of azov was destroyed, and our military fighters change into civilian clothes, trying to escape, and when they break through, they talk about the special relationship between the su. here we often talk about this with the azov people. let's hear what he has to say vushnik, who managed to escape from the environment, which is now in our captivity. azov and he was, as it were, the main one. they came to select people, well, how they selected. they just took, uh, they said that we needed so many people to choose. and if

they said that there was no, even people, they still said. eh, look for it as you want, and everything, like, they were taken, these people were put on the first line in front of them. here, and themselves, well, sometimes they were in the back sometimes they simply disappeared. this is a good addition to the picture used by the nationalists of azov bringing the fighting. we'll show you again. uh, this picture is a graphic where people are located like a human shield, in fact, the lower floors are military equipment tanks armored personnel carriers on the upper floors are firing points for anti-tank systems. and snipers and just firing points with large-caliber peaceful machine guns alexander yuryevich has a question for you about this tactic. uh, as far as it generally corresponds to the concept of the word military, it doesn’t correspond to the concept of the military in any way, because this is clearly a terrorist tactic. it's uh

the fact of taking civilians hostage to provide firing points on which not a single regular unit, in theory, can strike, because, and this is not a war zone. it's a wishful development, but we see that the tactic is likely. that instructor training, which was preliminary carried out by specialists from nato, great britain, the united states and and you are sure that you could n’t come up with it yourself, that this has actually been tested, but a proven tactic, and we know that the american private military officers worked in the middle east this way how they worked. in aleppo in syria, that is, uh, peaceful development was never perceived by them as not a theater of military operations. this has always been a cover, if i'm not mistaken, as mikhail correctly suggests, such tactics were used by isis, who also trained in camps with american instruments , the same alma maters, these are pupils

of the same instructors. there is data that confirms that the same instructors who prepared. uh, representatives of the iaf, ito, they worked, uh, in the respective training camps. decipher to our viewers, international terrorist organizations illegal armed experts are used by people, what kind of letters are terrible terrorists, the very fighting structures of the cell that were sharpened and the destruction of the civilian population. first of all, it is a tool of intimidation. this is not a tool to counter the regular. e the armed forces of the enemy. this is the method that is primarily aimed at solving political problems by terrorist methods nikit well, it turns out that ideological nazism and the tactics of terrorist activity are a terrible mixture that the world has never seen before. this is true from the point of view of the general world

history. at least for the last few decades. we see that this nazi ideology has been multiplied. this is very important in the supply of the latest weapons and the west, multiplied by the training by western instructors of those same nazis, multiplied by that very tactic, and frankly terrorists. but it really is unparalleled in history. i just want to remind you that in addition to taking over buildings, and we are constantly each day from war correspondents, we hear stories about how snipers work, nazi snipers do not shoot at our guys who perform combat goals and tasks, but first of all at civilians i explain why. because when a civilian is wounded, our soldier and our officer does everything to take him to a safe place and in this way. well, frankly speaking, it jeopardizes even more your life and the goals that are planned, therefore, in this case, in my opinion, what is happening in mariupol, again from the point of view military science. yes, and it is clear that this will be studied

separately is unprecedented. this is not just a special military operation. this is also a parallel counter-terrorist operation. i want to remind you that a in our country, at least, there are special, uh, special structures. uh, you can list them, and alpha vympel who are engaged in terrorist activities, to a potential scenario. well, actually resist the terrorists. our guys are military. let's just say, yes, who are there in first of all, there are marines and so on. they do not have such training. that is why what our army is doing now is without precedent. and this courage, this heroism, multiplied self-sacrifice allows you to save life in the first place. civilians we now have a direct connection from donetsk eduard basurin, deputy head of the people's militia department. dpr eduard aleksandrovich hello how is the situation now e to mariupol, all attention is riveted. we talk about the tactics that the nazis use from the data that appears. or maybe be you something complement it. good afternoon. well, i don't

know what to add. in principle, a large number of people cover what is happening in mariupol, i can only emphasize that the tyrants that we have are the main number of children, including 33 people from mariupol over the past day. here are 29 - this is from mariupol, which is delivered, well, they are delivered not only to a citizen, depending on injuries, because donetsk delivers everyone too, no matter how expedient, just for those medical institutions that are close to you, this is azovsk. it 's old fashioned. this may be telmanova, donetsk, bothering in different ways, they try to distribute, because the degree of injury is different, if it’s not serious, then it’s possible somewhere closer, if something serious needs qualified medical care, then it’s already trying to donetsk , therefore differently, there are even some typical

injuries. which is now, which is the most. well, it's tissue damage. uh, firearms or fragmentation of various ammunition. mainly happens, and there were cases when doctors from the hospital told us that during the evacuation in the first days, especially when people tried to leave , there were a lot of injuries in the back. and can you confirm this, you have come across such cases when people were shot, who tried to evacuate civilians, i mean, i, in principle, have repeatedly said this, but if they shoot in the back. basically. people can no longer say anything. and yes, there were such cases and they continue, because those columns that the first were formed when ukraine was still allegedly supporting humanitarian corridors, then the nazis shot people and intimidated them so that they would not leave the city. and this always happened in the side or back of alexandrovich's situation at the front. what now, that is, if we take mariupol there,

as i understand it, they have risen around azov, now the main hostilities are underway, and in other points of the republic well, other points, if we take donetsk dokuchaev hayish gorlovka, starting from hailstones, 152,122 mortars are almost we and don't consider being shelled regularly. here is donetska 5, kievsky district, it was very badly damaged. eh, dokuchaevsk, suffered. here we have, the deceased in the petrovsky district, two men and a woman of the age of a direct hit in the house and people have not left this house, because there is no house, and they died there, so the situation. in this case, of course, it is very difficult. uh, the impotence of the ukrainian military, on the one hand, the second picture, which does not show that they are undefeated, leads to the fact that we have a large number of destruction and casualties among civilian population. everyone remembers a city like slavyansk. how is the situation there now, because

we know that raisins are, in fact, the key to slavic kramatorsk. it is now practically under our control, surely you have more detailed information on how things are in this part of the republic, as far as i know , there are still battles in the raisin region, because the terrain that is located there is hilly, it helps, it exacerbates the defending attackers situation, but it's not that the key to the most slavic is the key is to cut off one of the supply roads, which goes along the road - a direct road to kharkov well, our friends of the russian federation mainly work there. we are now crushing them from the south, and from there the russian army. we hope that it presses, but i can’t help but ask about yesterday’s incident with the mi 8, which, uh, the commanders of azov requested for their personal evacuation. and how did it work. eh, thanks to whose intelligence? how they worked, if you can reveal, of course, to find out that this mi 8 flew precisely for

command. well, there are no big secrets here. a radio interception that a plane was being sent to knock it out, they asked for something a long time ago, they first asked for military assistance, so that troops would be sent for the group that was surrounded from mariupol from ukraine and unblock this group. and they didn't succeed. they repeatedly, then requested evacuation. i know that in this way, let's say, uh, there was an attempt to evacuate mercenaries by helicopter, which was also shot down, so there is nothing supernatural flying, the object needs to be destroyed, because here objects can fly only the russian federation, all others are prohibited. and there is an understanding of these radio intercepts. this evacuation command was abandoned precisely for command, and the rest of the fighters of azov knew about it, that they were trying to throw them, in fact, to leave them without leadership. well, just take the performance characteristics of helicopters 8

as much as there, maybe, uh, a person to sit down, even if they throw out all the weapons and ammunition, not so much, so this is just for guidance. not more than that, maybe even for some valuables that they stole all the time and decided to take with them. we now they were showing footage of captured servicemen and ukrainian troops telling how the azov people are. they were simply selected and lined up in a row. as you said, you are going to azov now. i understand that there are more and more testimonies of such people who managed to escape from them. i hope you have a lot. there are some such stories collected there, about which it is worth saying once again, who do not know. here , for example, are testimonies that they were chosen precisely and made these vases interesting. well, let's do it, i would not strongly believe in prisoners now, because you don’t ask anyone, he didn’t shoot, he was a cook or a driver, but you start to hide the phone and it’s completely different in azov, they just didn’t

take vases, they took them on the recommendation with a psychological test. uh, hmm let's call it a police check or a police counterintelligence check. if a person did not pass azov, they did not take him, that is, they fell correctly. she can be a friend, they make up for those losses that they have no more than that, but the gap just didn’t go , the vases went consciously, therefore the prisoners. i would strongly i don't believe it now, i can imagine. how many stories. now you hear, and now there is a lot of information from checkpoints, when the check is being carried out, we showed footage of a man being forced to show his body for tattoos , his hands are checked for the presence of powder traces. and there is understanding. how many people are trying? going out this way is imagining and docile it's dozens of people a day or more people, but i think it's hundreds of people, but you understand the check that 's there for a tattoo. this is not the main first

the most basic is that which goes in silence, those materials that were collected in advance, plus the civilian population, which prompts shows with photographs who is, who is in these points. uh, the times of dislocation for migrants, there this work is going on, the so-called filtration, where such a contingent is sought out, and then it is taken aside and works with them separately. they themselves each other, then begin to pawn, so when you want to save the skin. they only think about themselves. and how are they some kind of combat brotherhood for them is already secondary. they only think about themselves and save only their own skin. therefore, there are such moments, and they will continue. dart aleksandrovich, you used the word filtration and the ukrainian media are actively using it as propaganda that filtration camps are being created on the territory of the dpr where people are driven by force includes women children and keep them there for weeks. and we gave

information that here at the checkpoints. and that's where the filtering takes place. this procedure takes literally there 2 hours, no more. uh, there are some details on this report, how the procedure is organized now. well, i kind of started talking about the fact that there is an affidavit, there are documented photographs of the video, uh, where certain people are being sought out who are involved in the murder of the civilian population or who are armed with a sleeve. eh, they resisted us in this there is a word filtration, and people, well, by force, if people were driven, then they would not walk around the city. uh, they wouldn’t go shopping, they wouldn’t ask some informational help, what they can visit, where they can go, because many are here, for example, for the first time, therefore, ah, the propaganda that goes on in ukraine, it is based on what for a western visitor who is looking for what they say . and life it's all different with people when

you start talking, but people, first of all, are shocked by what ukraine has done to them. secondly, they are convinced that no one forbade the ukrainian language. here people can speak ukrainian or surzhik to themselves. as a matter of fact, we have it happening and they are normally treated with them, they talk, so people see this and understand where lies, where the truth. thank you very much for direct contact with us. eduard basurin, deputy head of the donetsk people's militia, was with donetsk. and since we are talking about the people of azov, about the punishers against the nazis, then, probably, one cannot help but recall the case when footage of torture was published over the weekend and today at the negotiations that are taking place in istanbul between the russian and ukrainian sides, this issue was raised by vladimir medinsky made it clear that no one would escape responsibility. let's listen. consultations with the ukrainian side continue today from 9:30. i hope that in a few hours we will make some statement on its results,

while i can say that we protested against the video recording of the abuse of captured russian servicemen that appeared, this protest was accepted by the ukrainian side. they promised to take the most severe measures. if they are caught first by those who committed these war crimes. if they catch ours, then themselves understand. we have been heard. i would not like to get ahead of myself. i think that in an hour or two, three works. maybe we'll be ready to tell you something. thank you. i liked the phrase in this message from vladimir medinsky, if they are caught first, and the likelihood that our side will catch them first is very high, because the matter has moved the dead center and some of all the nazis who mocked our prisoners of war shot them. she's been identified. these shots. these people. one

of them. uh, euromaidan participant and militant. azov serhiy velichko, known as chile, and about these people at one time, prosecutor general of ukraine irina venediktova spoke when he listed the criminals who were released from prison a month ago, so that they allegedly have to defend their homeland. and then she vouched for him, too, knowing that he had already committed a huge number of crimes. let's listen. i want to clarify, i want to clarify the situation regarding the release from custody to participate in the defense of the country. the first is not mass action, but a very balanced step in simple terms, the population is worried that because of this crime will flood the streets, it’s not worth it, and those who are serving their sentences should count on a day of open doors , each of the released also has combat experience gained in the ato in the fourteenth or fifteenth year . all of them are inveterate opponents of the russian world, and one is the author of a well- known song by ukrainian fans about

the main aggressor, all risks have been assessed for each and mechanisms for controlling them have been identified. that's how they assessed the risks and assessed the risks. yesterday at least measure. the telegram channel reports that in ukraine it is officially forbidden for military personnel to publish footage of torture and bullying, that is, torture and bullying were not forbidden to be filmed, not banned, but uploaded to the internet was banned mikhail this is fascism in its purest form, because they said, then now the prosecutor said that they very carefully selected and approached the one who was not allowed to be released by selected maniacs, sadists and scum. it was it was not an accident it was a conscious choice of what we call russian and here the ukrainian state. sorry and with which we are still negotiating. it is their attitude towards us that we need. actually. this is a bandera relationship that needs to be cut? as much as possible