accounts in the national currency and currencies of those countries that are reliable partners, by the way , you have probably heard that many traditional suppliers of energy resources to the world market. they are also talking about diversification. uh, the currency of settlements again, i repeat, russia values ​​​​its business reputation, we continue to comply, we will comply with obligations under all contracts, including gas contracts, we will continue to supply gas in the established volumes, which i want to emphasize both in the established volumes and according to prices determined in existing long-term contracts. emphasize these prices many times lower at times lower than the current quotes of us flow. in fact , what the president was talking about today is, in fact, what it is. uh, the most important thing that we discussed more than once in this studio and will continue to discuss it, namely here in our studio. eh, many experts began to talk about what, in

fact, for quite a long time after the announcement of us e sanctions after the start of a special military operation. and the gas got there either completely free, or partially free to many. it seemed impossible, that is, you see, this moment of denial lasted for quite a long time, but now the president confirmed it, that is, it is obvious to all of us that this situation will continue for a long time and could not continue further, and therefore our motivation. in general, it is quite understandable and obvious. i am more interested in the motivation of our western partners and, let's say, some of their internal inconsistency, because look from the one side. they, uh, said right there, in fact, they have repeatedly stated this before that they will not buy. for rubles, for example, the statement of the french minister of finance, bruno or mayor, that they refused to refuse to pay for russian gas in rubles, but uh, this is such a question, you know, how that's psychology. yes, the stage of denial is the stage of anger, and here is the question, when

will the bargaining come, because it is still denial. but then we listen to what german chancellor schultz says please. probably within a year we will be able to eliminate dependence on oil and coal imports for gas will take longer german companies want can and will pay for russian gas in euros. here comes an interesting economic or political or psychological construction, when we have russia that says guys. tomorrow is april 1st and that's no fools. well, how would you start to think. france germany who say no, we won't, but immediately germany says that we can't get gas from anywhere. or is there where or what do they count on? explain here economically, how can this triangle be explained? and in general, how little they did in this economy here, big stakes. yes, these are political economic stakes, of course, and they are designed to

break the russian economy. somewhere, sometime politically they will take away everything like that, but these are very distant and distant goals. and now it is still obvious that this is completely unrealistic, a and in this situation, they are forced to hold a position once they have already taken this position. we do not want to pay in rubles. we will not pay in rubles. and they only have one maneuver. here, how to save face. yes so they can say to show not a single european government will not buy russian gas for rubles, but economic structures can if they make the appropriate decisions, that is, throw the responsibility on companies on economic structures - this is the way that they have to retreat when they will retreat. and now, guys, give me back the first headline of the minister of finance of france, is it now when they say, we refuse to buy gas, is it the government now, because now they are also buying it commercial structures, but commercial structures that

are now bought for euros and on behalf of which the authorities of their country receive. we say we wo n't. yes, you are absolutely right, because now they speak on behalf of these commercial structures, uh, and they take their decisions, as they always did, as it always happens in such cases, because, well, imagine that these agents of the structure are there who enter into an agreement with the russian gas supplier that they themselves are in no way connected with the governments. but it would be great utopia e. well, it's a very naive, dreamlike performance, so for now, they just won't let them . act as the defender suggests to your words, what maneuver do they have? this is their maneuver. i wrote how they can retreat, when they retreat, they can say that we do not change our government's position, but you are allowed to do so and how will they retreat? well, for now, they are not going to retreat, while they are trying to see who can stand it. who blinks first. that's what they tuned in clean economic point of view, when they hold this position they have. so there is some kind of gas supply,

and how much they have this gas supply. approximately 25% is left in european gas storage, uh, and. q. in general, they have a small amount of gas they can try to hold out. well, for a month, for example, they can try, which is now in storage it may be enough yes, with very careful use for a month and a half, it can be a plus with additional purchases of gas at skyrocketing prices, but at the same time they will cause the strongest inflation once, but there will be completely unfeasible commercial programs of industrial enterprises. these industrial enterprises put work on pause, send people on vacation, fire someone. that is, it is still a troubled scenario. this scripted the scenario of the strongest stress, first of all for germany, then for france. well, and then for the rest, probably, too uh-huh, that is, roughly speaking, uh, there is uh, such a calculation, well, as it were, more or less economically, you confirm that the month uh, pulled it up there

, tightened it, it’s cold there and so further you can have a calculation, but the calculation is by and large . no, you understand, it is possible to calculate, but the calculation is not the calculation that we have never lost ground in the economy. we have always moved east. they took everything they wanted, and in the post-soviet, well, in the zone of influence. yes , we will talk about this now or not. after all, i’m bringing you up to something , as it were, carefully, or else they don’t believe. there are such moments, or yet they do not believe that a situation is physically possible in this universe in which tomorrow we will close the valve. here is a very important point. they really are. after all, they have it, because they know us poorly, as it turns out. yes, the whole history of this conflict is very tragic, of course, and so on. he says that they do not know us well as a character, as a type of relationship, and so on. yeah , maybe they hope that there are some people

or little people left who will crawl to vladimir vladimirovich on all fours, dear father listen to the move, come on, come on, you're there somehow, we 'll come up with something now, and so on, that is calculation of the national traitors. well, if it’s so rude to put it, and even the fact that there is still some more sensible story that, in general, of course, these incomes are gigantic in our budget. what is there to say important and these well, we are a betrayal, as it means, as a course and pressure and circumstances, but in a month nothing will happen to us and to them, but there is some hope anyway somewhere to add that something will happen, something will happen. and now, it seems to me, they have about them, i don’t know how he is in the ministry of finance the dreamer is working. uh, so, well, at least, you said that they don’t know us well, but you said so neatly that we were ourselves. and

we don’t know very well either, because you said, or maybe, or maybe they will crawl. or maybe they will crawl, or maybe they will go to whispers. but we don’t know, they will find some artyom. true, we don’t know. here's the truth, honest pioneer yes, their calculation, perhaps also on the fact that we do not fully know, yes, and anything can be, yes, who is everything that is here, strange as it may seem, this is such a concept, firstly, maybe russia will lose the war. perhaps russia will begin to sag under sanctions. it will start working anyway. perhaps what we have is enough for us for a month and a half there, and then again you tell me all the same things that they don’t know and don’t understand and they think that we can do it so quickly they don’t exist, as if there is no single defense plan but they have to count on something. they simply rely on the fact that time will somehow work for them, because there is a huge rollback in russia. russia is under pressure it has just been said that it is possible that russia will be able to be broken from within, that is, you understand, this is the very case when people grab for time, because in this case we will last 2 months there. let's

stick with these two months. what if during these 2 months they break anima. so you're talking about the depth of planning there. e, a month and for this month they decide e hope somehow somehow not, or otherwise still for a month. no. well, two months. this i think is a real planning horizon that they can look into, because further begins things that are impossible to read. the heat starts. the heat is again the consumption of gas, you know? and here, look, alexey alekseevich , in fact, this is the conversation that we have just started, because the conversation is not only, and maybe not so much about the economy, and even in a sense not about politics. although politics is always a continuation of some kind of psychology, yes, political, and for me this political psychology is very clearly manifested and it seems to me that it is there that we need to look for reasons and analyze. what maybe further, who we are to them and they to us here is the big seven, which also says that they will not, but the most interesting motivation is there,

what they appeal to when turning to us. why don't they just won't. why shouldn't they listen? we will not accept requests to pay for gas in other currencies. this is not provided for in the contracts. contracts are contracts. they must be strictly observed. and look what i'm talking about psychology. my main question is what? i don’t understand in this story, i’m talking about gas, about the economy, about not much politics. i’m the most interesting thing here in a sense, you know, as an anthropologist, this is who the people who froze our money, who are squeezing, should imagine themselves to be. it’s just because of the lawlessness of our property, which declared there almost a hunt for all russians who violated all the obligations that are possible, but in a conversation with us, the french finance ministers have enough of the same. here i leave an empty space, which is enough for him to appeal

to contracts, which we are nevertheless obliged to continue. here i have a feeling that this is some kind of setting. they have an idea in their heads about who they are to us, and who we are to them, which has a very strong effect. this is the american pattern. remember how they walked out of the nuclear deal with a wound and told iran to go ahead with the nuclear deal. we got out of it, but you keep doing this same thing. the same pattern of behavior. why is this happening? what is this? yes? well, that is, if you signed up, we reserve that right. hmm, we can, uh. recognize our right not to comply. that is, it really is. this is a very perverted model. uh, why is this happening? a very simple answer is none of the european politicians, not scholz, not all of these respected people. they are not responsible for the result. they are not selected. they are not responsible for the result. they can say anything. here as on what is called the devil in the details. i imagine what is happening in the offices of politicians in european countries. they are such russian listeners there they said to

buy in rubles. listen, there are already trucks the streets are blocking these people are coming out. bender said you can't hit. america said you can't buy russian gas. but uh, like i said, the devil is in the details. pay attention to what happens to the steering wheel. he returned to the position until february 23 buys it buys, of course here and here first. what is called not something that is broken? i think the vatican bank took it upon itself, which it calmly bought in the expectation that it would calmly buy this gas later and everything else is not recognized, but they buy miraculously there is no ruble cannot to strengthen just like that, that is, your version, what they say, all these texts can’t be quietly beaten for america benders, we’ll tell everything that everything is fine, quietly buying up these rubles, which then their companies, as if violating an unspoken order. yes, they will buy under, uh,

noise, these politicians are informational noise, they will still be purchased in this or that volume for us. yeah, they are not suicidal. this is it, by the way. will ukraine buy for rubles? here , after all, there is somehow a break in patterns, you understand? at what's the matter? and here is the question. what will be bought for rubles? ukraine is a separate interesting question for me, which i periodically asked in this studio, after all, and we still continue to pump gas through ukraine, but we have always discussed this in the context of gas supplies from europe, but for a minute for a minute, ukraine, where there are military actions that kill our soldiers and she gets transit money. and according to my data, this is, in general , such strong millions a day. she continues them receive. this is an interesting separate issue. and if

now it will be for rubles, this is really a very interesting concept of darin. i would only like to add that i completely agree with your position. they are so not sovereign that they don't care what the americans tell them. they say this, but it seems to me that they don’t know that much, but they don’t have, as our military people put it, you understand, but who knows what will happen in the near future, it will happen in a month in the united states, it’s like situation. turn they wait, for example. well , for example, well, listen, all mortals, suddenly the biden dies, yes, go ahead, lord, the biden comes kamala haris or slava uhani, wait, wait, or whatever completely begins there. well, how should i put it, to put it mildly, the unstable situation in the united states is a, and we know how the ratings of the biden democratic party

are now falling, how the ratings of their opponents are rising. and what does our beloved trump say there, in any case, a person i personally know, as it turned out. here, a i think there's a lot of things, maybe, and this they know well, they will bet on it and not first not second not first. they even know how it seems to me, than you and i, because they are still following nervously what is happening in the united states and they really know a few of ours very carefully. worse in this case, we are in this sense, well, as if secondary to them for them, here is the master over there, who says this and suddenly uses ren. they see what is happening with the overlord and they are watching it very much, so they wait and have enough. this month and a half is enough for them to wait completely with all due respect, the story is that they have gas for a month and a half, and they sit and wait. eh, how

would god bless the biden, god bless the biden. well, this is, of course, kind of true. or maybe vice versa. well, i just didn't want to say it. they are the development of events around relations between the united states and china, because china , or rather the united states, is now more important than the health of their respected leaders, which has recently been such nonsense that is very scary. so i think that now they are watching how it develops. this is the line of conflict, because china has moved to action. and if the us is torn apart, it will fight two fronts for this githle. what will he say, it is very difficult, then, i think that europe will start to make informed decisions. i once repented writing a certificate for one british party regarding the energy component of its dependence on russian energy resources for britain. here it caused a shock, which surprised me very much, because irina aleksandrovna basic education, philologist, they graduated from oil and gas. here irina alexandrovna is multifaceted

if you don’t know, well, you know, we have arithmetic there in elementary school. i was all right. i had five to count. it's not difficult enough. the fact is that to do without, in general , even proud britain simply cannot do without our energy resources, and that’s all. here i am not citing now, the numbers are nothing. i think most of my colleagues will agree with me. that's why this question is nothing to discuss at all. now i would like to say why, maybe there is some hope for what will happen to us, after all, and here i am monitoring the information field. by the way, in the post-soviet space there is one mantra that our resource has been exhausted, including military-technical ones, including uh, the stock of weapons that are used and in general, here we are , just tired and on our last legs. we

're barely pulling. all this is in ukraine, this mantra really works and is very stable exactly about this, as i think, the british minister of security spoke yesterday in baku. that is, well, in fact, this is what vlad began to talk about, that they have some hope, that in some way i try to convince myself, but uh, all these versions, of course, have a place to be, but let's talk about how well we know ourselves uh, and how they know and represent us. it's a big question how it will be, because look. it's not even about her okay, europeans. there are not independent. there are not tied sovereigns. we said it again. well, look what all this has, roughly speaking american-centric system hmm in my head. here you have, for example, the americans, who after all these words there about the butchers of war criminals education in the case of the economy. so we’ll tear it apart, we’ll

crush it, and so on, yes, the 19th century is here, that is, all this is said to us, as a side to us, as a people and our leader who deal with these issues, but at the same time in this american. the americans get along with such an idea, they bring out this news today. i just when i read this, why here i am talking anthropologist in me, well, as if people spoke in all seriousness, they say we brought out the kid. you are russian fertilizers, that is, the people who do all this, they have an absolute idea. and so i want to understand and describe this idea in this head, that this is also possible that a situation can work when you strangle a person, but if you need him to say something to you, you let him go, he fulfills you and you do it suffocate further. they have the same idea in their heads. yes, you understand? here's an old principle, it's been said here many times american there is no indian, there is no soul about indians there is no soul, therefore

, if you show beads for beads to an indian, he will sell everything they have to us, that they are doing us a favor. well, they give us beads, sell us fertilizer, because these are beads, we must grab hold of these beads. in general, how are we without money? how can i be without a dollar? so we will cling to and run after these dollars, it would not occur to them in their heads that they might have to throw these beads into one of the local round place , moreover, when we speak with them, we are not talking about americans, as such. there you are, for example, the japanese, who, as it were, are not americans, but who also amused me today, who have already joined these sanctions. they say, you know, we don't gather each other, so to speak. leave sakhalin 2, and it's convenient for us. we want to get energy resources from there, that is, again, not in the american head, but in the japanese, who never had any indians the idea that there is, they who can do one thing, but there are others who can

do another and then and then this is talk japan has eight positions on which they do not impose sanctions. yes , and yes, moreover, this is also a very interesting point, that is, they say in all seriousness. it's not that april 1st humor joke. the guys are getting ready. they say, so we are here, uh, russia is now being strangled with sanctions. well, because it’s supposed to be, but we counted there are eight positions that we cannot replace in any near future, so be kind and understand, and this psychology is, well, i don’t know, maybe it’s too much strong word, but it is the psychology of colonialism in relation to the semi-colonies. well, let's even the question of what's on the eve of what's on artyom i would like to say only two very short thoughts, well, firstly, the japanese got on their heads that we refuse them visas, so now they do n't have seafood on their tables it was, in general, not cunning they spawned sea urchins, by the way, you are also sakhalin - two and cooler than something else. you see how they are arranged. this is

the head of their sailors, they do not receive visas and they cannot fish here. and they don’t have fish, i understand everything, but you understand, that's all the same here is the conversation. here, it seems to me that here, as one of our leaders said, from which it all actually began. here is the dog. yes, in the fact that we and this in many respects we have grown and hardened in their heads the psychology of the fact that they are in some other. here i will just give you an example. so i brought you americans with fertilizers. i brought you the japanese with sakhalin 2, what they have here. this means pressure on us. and here they call for a third example. just give me back this beautiful minister finance of france, which reminds us about contracts about the contract. he reminds us how his bruno is or yes, that is, look at this again, that means bruno or the world, he says, we are contracts of an agreement, that is, a person appeals to international law. and then the heads of the french and german foreign ministries brought me to a commotion and spoke

in favor of expanding economic pressure on russia, that is, people remind us of treaties or treaties. who about what? yes, they say, well, we will put pressure on you. come on guys, break treaties it is forbidden. and we will we touched, right? this here, because the first question. yes, we have moved away from being able to understand what we are dealing with, we are not dealing with, uh, not only with the collective west, but with two wests, one west is the european union, and the other west is from the united states and everyone who is further away in the united states increase the purchase of russian fertilizer oil, they need our words. they talk, they need words. they speak loud but for the european union for the european leaders for germany for france e battles on ukraine is of crucial importance because the issue for them is that if the west is collectively defeated and russia is winning like this, it means that the european union is

crumbling. yeah, not only does the policy of expansion to the east of that same eastern campaign of the european union end, but a rapid shedding of all its projects from the east of the european union begins. and this will happen and against the backdrop of the shedding of the euro, because it turns out that this is what the americans of course, proudly hate us, but they are in are protected to a large extent, because we cannot do anything special to the dollar. we simply do not have such volumes of trade that there is one china maybe china maybe but that's another story. and we can offend, uh, the european union and the euro, and we offend, because when president putin proposed to transfer, well, he demanded already now, yes, to transfer gas trade for rubles to rubles, this means that now russian goods will provide the ruble, and not euro. uh-huh, because in the modern economy, money is not exactly money. these are banknotes. they have building value

because. you can buy goods on them that have a real value of real value. therefore, we produce these goods soon , grain will be added to sales for rubles, given that there will not seem to be any sowing in ukraine. i hope the americans. we will sell for rubles, the price will rise. if all this is for rubles, then it turns out that the new alternatives to the dollar in europe, at least, are the ruble. they are euros and on it along with the fact that there is a shedding influence the european union in the east, because further on the wave of growth of the church and on the inflation itself in the euro and in european currencies can follow. uh, powerful protest movements, that is, such color revolutions, on the contrary, you understand, they are no longer real, but you brought us out of most of russia now. and now we will go in that direction to a very important question, and which is also the answer. uh , for what. as a matter of fact, they are now fighting so much , because of which they balk. perhaps they

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