levels of heads of state, uh, and at the level of uh, the leaders of the largest european companies, well, let's first listen to the strictly said e hungarian leader viktor orban. this is not about putting on a sweater in the evening and turning down the heating a little or paying a few forints more for gas, but about the fact that if there are no energy sources from russia, there will be no energy in hungary at all to replace cheap russian gas with expensive american gas is not allowed, such proposals are absurd and disastrous for the economy there are countries that, due to their geographical position, cannot refuse russian oil and gas. at least, because they do not have access to the sea and terminals for receiving liquefied natural gas, as well as other pipelines stretched to their territory. but listen to what the ceo of europe's largest chemical concern bases in martin brader müller said. do we

want to destroy our entire economy with open eyes, and everything that we have created in a decade. i think such an experiment would be irresponsibly, it could lead the german economy into its worst crisis since the end of world war ii. well, then the statements started pouring in. in the same spirit, slovakia's leadership has said it is ready to buy. uh, gas for rubles, and do it on an external basis, and we 'll talk. i think we'll discuss. why exactly slovakia ran ahead of the locomotive here, and why the minister of ecological transition of france said that, in principle, putin's formula can be implemented, and so on. that is already a list. uh, as if from the kazniks from the common european line, he only grows and i am sure that it will continue to grow , isn't it andrey, by the way, of course. uh, well, firstly, the position that russia has taken is absolutely logical about the transition. there

are at least two levels of solution in gas payments in rubles. the first level of the solution is simply to secure our money from theft. after all , what is the frozen reserves of the dollar and the euro, this is exactly the money for gas and oil that should have come to us, but since the correspondent accounts in european and american banks of the dollar and the euro reflected they were taken and frozen. naturally, we want this to not happen in the future, and there is indignation here. well, it reminds me of how your car was stolen. you are trying to put an alarm on a new one. and he tells you why on earth you put an alarm on the car. here is a similar situation. we're just protecting ourselves from further theft. from our partners. there is a deeper one. cause. this is the de-dalorization of the economy of changing the situation, when the united states of america of great britain can dictate to the whole world, because that they are the owners of modern gold of the main

means. paying the us dollar is a more difficult task to move towards it will be more difficult. uh, different countries will move towards it in different ways, but this is precisely what the united states of america turned on to a greater extent and they put pressure on their european partners so that they would not agree to an absolutely acceptable offer from russia in any case. come bring your currency, buy it, and rubles and for rubles. buy gas, in the end they even already picked up a dealer who buys currency in the form of gazprombank means, but political pressure has intensified since our proposals are absolutely acceptable to europe. absolutely not advantageously worked, the third component. here is the proposal, this single bloc, hammered together by the united states. america against us began to burst at the seams. he began to pop around the countries, but very interesting. now it will also start

to crackle in terms of social components. for example, only recently european trade unions voted to suspend membership russia in the international labor organization, what did the russian trade unions answer them, dear friends. you can vote for anything, but in a few weeks. you will become our allies again. when you see in the square you inevitably see columns of workers demanding the lifting of anti-russian sanctions, because they are losing their jobs the same. we can say about the association of employers in general, in principle, that's what is democratic that remains in europe, it will just fight against those who say that fights with us for democracy, because trade unions are an association of employers elections. as far as they exist in europe will continue to work for us. but against us, for the ideals of democracy , those who will fight for democracy, in fact,

have nothing to do with the appointees of the union. in america, the european bureaucracy has all these funds, lyaida, all these uh barrels, they are barrels, and so on and so forth, so in fact the president’s decision showed that this is what is called bull’s-eye, and this decision has both short-term and long term prospects and it has clearly begun to split the european united front against russia well, uh since yesterday the entire leadership of the eurocracy is under russian sanctions and will not be able to visit our country, nor most of the members of the european ruble. uh yes it will be quite difficult for them to buy rubles, but uh there are ways for those who are interested in relations with russia oh there are really a lot of them and the unions have worked and many others are not interested in the right way united states that are pushing europe skip the european politicians that are written out

for america or well, flesh and blood, just a bureaucracy is a person who simply grew up in a party machine controlled to a large extent by the same united states, isn’t it sergiev ivanovich, well, the point is that maybe so to speak, we will very gently move on to what is called pre-delarization and so on, but this is due to the fact that they are thirty years old. we tried to walk. here is her. yes, we have strong ties with her. they're starting to break now reverse reflexes, and so on and so forth, but historically, as it were, earlier than 5 years. they don't fix gas problems. is there of course they do not contribute to the absolute impoverishment of their population, so to speak, they will bring this lng is unknown. where in such quantities or solve problems in some other way. it is carried with the help of wood heating. this applies not only to gases. as such, not only heating problems and so on. this applies to a huge number of industries in fact. we see that there are some connections between

industry. and europe and our energy resource like this they are torn. well, it’s completely incomprehensible who is torn by them, it’s time for the united states and europe to understand that it is she who has all of its economic potential and all of america’s organic dislike for europe . powerful strong hidden, and america will lower europe endlessly, and from my point of view, my personal opinion, the ukrainian war, expiring by the americans and great britain. she is part of this lowering europe is boiling this cauldron and the americans are trying to lower this europe as low as possible in it, and in response to this certain dynamic processes will take place in european politics. she will not freeze on a dead center and it is interesting to see. what kind of forces in these conditions will gradually come to

power. and what will they be? in this sense, with the european process as a whole, and whether this whole american adventure will end with the creation of europe's mitel or something like that under dmitry europe. i mean europe with a core in the form of germany. this europe will have a future. it will not remain the same as it is under this mess; this mess is too great to leave everything in the same state. ah, the united states puts itself in the merit of the president, biden is also what, imposing sanctions , is now conducting this one. uh, the anti-russian course, they rallied for under, like never before about it. here is a constant conversation. we have never rallied for under united as ever. here, uh, the current situation in relation to the reaction to the sanctions situations. couldn't the sanctions themselves already be causing problems for western unity, and you know, this is a very common story, i think it's in the

work. other writers have it when some kind of show is on, uh, everyone is looking at it, and at that time they are rummaging through their pockets. europe seems to me, just in this state it was built according to the american order, first, here's how we already they said this geopolitical mess began, where they threw ukraine into battle, now e is moving it all to a new level of it an economic more global one, where europe itself will become victims and smash its real sector of the european economy, and in general in all this arranged by the united states. the show really robs europe. here in the same food chain from europe, they suck out resources, the question is, when will europe come to its senses, it will begin to feel its pockets from whom this process will begin. i understand that you are placing great hopes on the trade union

movement at the e-e workers. i think that the industrialists will be the first to come to their senses after all there will be a rather interesting story in europe when workers and employers, in fact, find themselves on the same side of the barrique. yes, it was called an indication against their own governments. not even that actually, but really politicians who have come from the american personnel reserve, but europe is now active with the american supply. uh, pumping weapons to ukraine. this is an important factor. and today the concert frg-scholl announced that they would supply both armored personnel carriers and now e to ukraine how much more difficult it is for us factor. well, you know, that's a factor. uh what new supplies new targets? but on the other hand, after all , the bet is being made to prolong the conflict in ukraine as much as possible. i hope that russia

will not survive this military operation, because it is being pressured with the help of shutdown sanctions, and russia is still at the helm. as they say, she came to europe and said, let's as they say, gas for rubles. here, but you see, here, here, they are now celebrating such a victory. this is actually a victory for euro officials euro officials eurocommand. nato countries here they are, they are doing well. they finally got there, that very unity, but this unity is very painful. soon it will hit the wallets of the wallets of the europeans, in which they said, in addition to the fact that energy resources are already so expensive. we need to increase military spending. after all, the main achievement itself is, after which biden was in a great mood. he finally made everyone pay 2%. he even germany and france pay 2% of the nato budget and agreed on new bases. and on new deliveries of weapons. europeans have not yet understood, but in

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putin more often than any of the foreign leaders? where does such activity come from, is it related to the elections , and how would you generally assess the role of the president of france in the current crisis situation? well, if you start with the general places of the role of the president of france in the current and in previous crisis situation. uh, i think you probably noticed that from the very beginning of his miraculous ascension to the throne, which was accomplished by the efforts of the press. uh, in just six months they blinded the image of the president and blinded the party that he represented from the very beginning, mr. macron, has established himself by the fact that he is very reminiscent. uh, you know a small person who really wants to slap on the shoulders, uh, giants, the thoughts of fathers. e universal democracy. he tried to somehow more or less mediate. e between presidents putin trump, uh, and uh, in

many situations he showed himself in such a way that he really wants and really likes to play the role of an intermediary. uh, since he himself is a new figure in politics and he really wants to remain in the memory, so to speak, of future generations, as some kind of significant and comparable figure, let's say. with such a scale, absolutely all analysts admit it. that's what concerns the personality of the president, what about some real achievements. uh, of course, it is perfectly clear to everyone that the president macron is a figure, and by no means an independent one, and uh, two scandals erupted one after the other. e, in. uh, over the past few days, it's been, uh, the so-called uh, mackinsey cabinet scandal. uh, this is such an american consulting firm, which, as it turned out. uh, very interesting study by the senate committee a few weeks ago. uh, i discovered that this same american company

not only, uh, helped the french government in force. uh, somehow manage the current health crisis for uh a friendly sum. a billion euros, with which not a single san-ti got me to the tax office of the tax inspectorate of the french state, but also, uh, it also turned out that the same company somehow completely free of charge and free of charge helped the president of france to solve his problems in the future french president macron. during his e-election campaign in 2017. so here are a number of these questions, which somehow very unpleasantly arose precisely at the moments of the electoral race that had already begun. eh, they spoil it. e big picture of the president macron, not to mention the fact that he also has other troubles, two french journalists. uh,

found out e didn't match his tax returns. uh, with the actual income they receive. e, and. uh, some of which disappeared. eh, also a very modest sum of three. uh, millions of euros he received between 2009 and 2013, as a bonus of such a bonus in 2012 from the rothschild bank, that is, all this together, of ​​course, very embarrassing. uh, the election campaign in general, the current president of france, but will it affect is it for the election? this is another question of today's survey of the figaro newspaper on e, a specific task. and the question was generally very simple. do you think? e that the outcome of the elections is already a foregone conclusion and has already been played out 42%, e, of the respondents answered. yes, that

is, this in itself already speaks volumes, but uh macron is really flesh and blood, the rothschild empire, and uh, this money is already their origin. it is confirmed that this is from there. yes, this money, this uh, this 3 million that he did not declare, then a billion that went to consulting services. in connection with the code. e under the origin of this money. where did this government money come from? uh, last billion? in general, the whole scheme here is this, uh, the functioning of modern western democracy. it was very well stated, you know, from the days of , uh, woodward and bert from the days of, uh, ergate. yes , go after the money, look for the money. yes, that is, that e macron is the brainchild of the rothschilds of the rothschild bank. in general, it was not a secret

from the very beginning. who is there, where and how to distribute to whom? this is all that they can reveal investigate, or they will reveal it. well, and i think, how many ropes are not faces, there is a tip, but this very tip will simply not be seen, the general public, but the idea itself. she is, in general, correct. where does she go to work? that's not even the point is, uh, like i said. uh, in general, the average voter is a taxpayer citizen. he is not so stupid, to have completely trusted, so to speak. e. because he is told in the central press, which again is not a secret, who finances the french central newspapers. this especially became of interest to the public and was revealed at the moment. this is a two-year pandemic completely with uh, senseless measures of coercion and training of citizens to accept absolutely everything on vera uh, swallow, so to speak, without chewing, and u trust

absolutely everything to obey, just unquestioningly obey. this training was successful for one certain part of the population, which at the moment, with the same humility , swallows everything that the central press broadcasts to it, both in terms of russophobia and in terms of some kind of there was speculation, but here the very fact that for two pandemic years. and in principle, as shown, and much earlier. uh, the french state functioned with the help of assistance and with uh, yav. the influence of the american mckensey cabinet of such a consulting firm in itself, in general, makes a fairly large number of the public think. this is, in general, of course, a very unpleasant moment for mr. macron, but a most convenient one. yeah, the mackenzie company is really well known. like a maker there of kings politicians and so on and so forth americans. uh is holding the outcome of elections in many european

countries in their hands. uh, through consulting firms through indeed and through the e-channels of banks in the same rothschild system and through other areas, including the financing of the media, which is now being run by a frank russophobic company. you feel it or where. eh, in france there has not been such a strong russophobic feeling in the last decade. now it’s clearly russophobia, as the polish e, prime minister said marovets is becoming such a european mainstream, similar in france, too. the fact is that i already say this, i don’t know how many times i have written and said and i repeat endlessly, russophobia in france takes root very poorly. and everything that is happening now - it has already been written about this by tyutchev in a certain number of his letters. he painted it very well. the same company, yes, during, uh, he, and the fact is that we

have already experienced this and will certainly survive russophobia in france, everything is experienced very badly russophobic are the most obvious and the most i would say, uh, tough antics. they don't come from the french, but an assassination attempt there, you know, pouring paint, throwing incendiary mixture. uh, to the center of the growth of cooperation profanity of the temple. uh, in paris it doesn't come from the french. and this is understandable, even to the most sharpened on e, russophobic propaganda a to the townsfolk and the more it is rabid propaganda e, so to speak, the more it gets annoyed and, so to speak, it just bends absolutely everything under itself the topic is tangible its reverse effect. if you read the french press today. i think that all the people we are of his generation, yes, uh, who are well acquainted with the press of brezhnev, stagnation. eh, suddenly feel themselves. uh, quite simply. i don't know, flying in

some kind of half-asleep, because we could never imagine that this is the official press in the democratic country in the democratic west. it can reach a level of absurdity that we have not seen, even in the most propagandist times in the school walls of the newspapers. and that absolutely all the press western today it is aligned in a single pattern according to a single model such an impression. this is what is called a stencil. you see, i mean, you can compare editorials. it started during the pandemic. that is, somewhere before there were prerequisites, but of such intensity. uh, like since the pandemic, and it was not so obvious. now it's completely invisible. even this is obvious, since absolutely the same information and the same interpretations to the point of complete meaninglessness, like headlines, like, uh, i was in russian-ukrainian

war, they shoot everywhere they write. uh, young volunteers. well, you know, a little more and it would be young naturalist. in general, as one swiss, uh, writers and publicist e french-speaking, he wrote this to you, your surrender for kosovo, uh. it was written at the very beginning. here is another russian military operation, and somehow this very well expressed this counterpoint, which is still very strong. especially in e on tv. there are absolutely amazing programs on the radio, where absolutely amazing people with very big titles like, for example, the chief, uh, of the institute of military intelligence, uh, who just the other day, uh, gave out absolutely amazing things in plain text. uh, in the sense that he told the biography of president zelensky who is everywhere. now he just e canonizes,

as you know, the western press, but moreover, he told it in such detail, e, up to 40 million laundered money of the kolomoisky oligarchs and the appointment of all his creative staff while still an actor, as presidential advisers, that is, you understand, if these people at this level are so good know. uh, really warding the essence of events. i think that everyone who is followed knows this as well as all the press. they said that it was not the french who initiated this russophobic company. they are not attacking orthodox churches or the center of russian cooperation, but clearly they are writing editorials or e. where is the source of this russophobia? as you can see, this russophobia is always diligently carefully and very, i would say,

you know, warmed up mentally. eh, before. uh, that's all these events that russia over the past. that's when, so to speak, the covid project broke down, and, uh, i had to turn it off, so to speak. eh, you know all the camps that russia was pushed by hook or by crook into this war, in my opinion, today is no longer denied. no one understands, it is very difficult to deny, because there were all the announced events. that is, they were announced with such accuracy. and now they are trying to transfer everything and uh, here again, to choke on french, for example, newspapers, uh, to transfer it to a new level for uh, shading the situation, that, like, the headlines that say today that the russian military intelligence has suffered a complete defeat, the valiant defenders of ukraine, uh, are winning victory after victory. uh,

small settlements are being conquered back, there are no other indications near kharkov, near what and what points are not given? that's it, there is a company of total lies. eh, very interesting. thank you very much elena, we continued to talk. it's really. very interesting, but the transmission time is limited, of course, russophobia was born not yesterday. you are absolutely right. e, mentions tyutchev before tyutchev was marquis before questin. and in general, russophobia, she has been a long-time mistress in europe, as emperor alexander the third said, they are afraid of our hugeness , this hugeness has not gone away. and this is huge. it is now manifesting itself in the economy and the military sphere, of course, russia as a competitor. it is taken by the west very, very seriously , hence the origins of this russophobia in many respects, but ours is a just cause and we are well aware that