this is a german minister who demonstrates to us , as a matter of fact, the absurdity and ruinousness for the economy. uh, on a completely different flank. here's cem özdemir, minister of food and agriculture of the federal republic of germany which means we need less animals for less consumption. he wants us well and so on. in general, as they say, we hold on to nothing. this is the two flank in the middle is a country, like austria, which is somehow trying to all this here, well, in my head in my head to put together and somehow decide to go to towards absurdity and destructiveness, or go towards some kind of common sense. well, let's hear the statement. and the statement. um, firstly, here are the representatives of the omb company - this is the largest austrian gas company, which , please, argues like this. giving up russian gas is not possible if we are not ready to accept the huge consequences, some

countries could do it, but for austria it is impossible. this year we are in a difficult position. we can't just take and do without russian gas, since austria has no access to the sea and no access to liquefied gas. and here is an interesting question. he's clearly not just talking to himself. although it may be, of course, in such weather it does not interfere with talking to yourself, but nevertheless. he is trying to explain something to someone, to someone who tells him. well, as it were, and as a matter of fact, the austrian chancellor is also talking to someone, trying to explain something to someone or explaining it. let's listen. sanctions only make sense if provided that they weaken who they are for, who drives them, yes, it's a terrible feeling to depend on russian gas, but my job is to ensure the security of supply. and here is nikita sergeevich’s question, firstly, with whom are they both talking, these two people, who, on the one hand, have not lost touch with reality, but on the other hand

, something is obviously pressing on them that they are trying to explain to the guys. well, as we understand everything, but we cannot whom they are talking to, what kind of power is this, which they are trying to explain. and most importantly, do they have any chance to somehow slip between the trickles, so i’ll start with the second chance. and more recently, the rhetoric, including from austria, had a completely different understanding of what kind of russian gas. you will have to pay in rubles appeared just in those countries that are actually 80-100% dependent on russian gas. this is one of them fast, hungary is also slovakia yes , other countries are like that again. and so on depends not so critically, but let's just let's think about what it means is not so critical, when in fact 40% of gas consumption is due to russian gas, when your entire industry is very important and all your households depend on russian gas, then germany has not yet lived in a different reality, therefore in my opinion in this case, they are talking with those who are trying to

push through this decision without being guided not by logic, but by being guided. you just need to burn the format. all of it is fire, because it will not burn here, so it is, of course, the united states america who say that you, please, first refuse, and then we will replace the problem is that the volumes that the united states of america can even theoretically replace according to the best calculations. look, even the most 10 part is 15 billion cubic meters and 155. as far as i understand, billions are 1/10. i'm not even talking about the fact that there is no infrastructure in germany to receive american liquefied natural gas. i'm not talking about the fact that the body says that prices will skyrocket and this will lead to er, it means that they will simply lay off people, there will be a huge amount of unemployment, the price of elementary products will rise. everything, this is possible only if the united states of america pushes through. i now have an opinion that they will not succeed , i explain why this is so, because our president is literally the other day. with perseverance and, in general, with

some kind of patience worthy of incredible respect. it can be said that he explained on his fingers, you know now the meme is very popular, when our president spoke to the scholts, he did not understand anything and asked him to somehow explain in more detail, and here the meme walks, you know, there is a picture and it simply says russia rubles, which means germany dash gaza . here is the same thing, but and it is interesting that they simply deny reality. in fact, even in terms of contracts. it is very important. they won't lose anything. they won't lose face. they will not lose russian gas, they will not lose their economy. the only thing they will lose is that hand that strokes and periodically beats, forcing them to abandon russian gas. she in some moment will move. why because, if they refuse to do it? this will be the most important precedent that will hit all this uniform western sanctions policy, because the gas situation is so critical for europe, so critical for europe that what we hear,

actually from austria and e, hungary and other countries , is confirmed. by the way, it is very important that slovakia is also ready for the russians. well, look nikita sergeevich, that's why i'm asking this question, what do i feel and you judging by your reactions agree with this, as uh, carl michammer and many others. they seem to say, these are the obvious things. they are also having a dialogue with someone. who tells them guys all these are your reasonable considerations. they are not all critical. you must have a scheme, you must. yes, with whom, as it were, show me. in general, everything seems to me even for german politicians of this generation. i think there should be enough fields. i do not know easier already probably, as it were impossible. maybe there on the fingers of some kind of fold it like this. what am i talking about i say that when it’s not the hammer that will be returned to me now, all this says. after all, he is trying to explain something to someone, and we understand to whom, when he says this phrase, it is a terrible feeling to depend on russian gas, that is, to depend on russian

gas is a terrible feeling for him, but to depend politically on those who press on him in order to get his country, well, roughly speaking, this is apparently not such a blow for him, or or what choice he makes, in fact, both orban and not hammer, and so you say, slovaks after all, they somehow, but kachinsky actually makes a diagnosis for them all. this is for him throughout the process, as it is open in polish. they say that in general my friends are not talking about gas, not about rubles, not about the euro, and not about the economy at all, please. from an economic point of view, the russian proposals do not matter much so. so ultimately the money has to be exchanged. here we are talking more about obtaining psychological and political superiority, in fact. what is the question about , actually, what is the question of pumping, speaks for them for all the guys. yes, enough here to talk about gas

about some rubles. it's about something else. this is about psychological and political superiority. that is, this existential confrontation with russia , we cannot go for it, because it doesn’t matter. who will notice you there, because he understood the most important essence. and you know, the decision to pay for gas in rubles, which our president putin made , is strategic for us, but for the international financial market. it is essence-bearing, i say this, but not without pathos. that's because we're here on channel one. i'm just giving words. uh, western banks. the first channel is just not missing. the first channel is calm, we are talking about that. and pro life chris rice largest swiss bank and one of the world's largest banks was the first. who said that we are now witnessing a revolution in the financial and credit system. we are now witnessing the birth of a new financial world. the emergence of a new british in the narrow system. let's remember what is the

britonian system forty-fourth year america, which became the hegemon following the results of the second world war shared with us the whole world. yes, she said, here is a dollar. we will fill it with gold and the dollar will be the backed currency. and this currency will count for the whole world. now it is critical, he says, you understand, a currency backed by energy carriers appears. not these fiat currencies, dollars, euros, which were printed endlessly, especially during the coronavirus, 27 trillion dollars equivalent was thrown into the global financial system. just like that, yes, they say there is a currency that will now be attractive to everyone. this currency is the first ruble of the second such. here, it will be yuan, because it is filled, then in the army with real goods, and ruki , given that india and i are also discussing a certain scheme with india, moreover, india and i will even test an analog of swift now yes, our system was

developed by a washing bank , transmission of financial messages. e, with p. yes, this is an analogue and indian banks will put it in our banks of this system and have it all work. look here, you tell everything very beautifully, and i, as if i would listen and listen, but here i can not ask a question. when you speak, quoting a credit whistle, which apparently understands the same as you, what is at stake. you say that this is a revolution in world finance, and not in finance, like money, but in world finance of political systems, changes in the general system of how the world functions, but when you follow them and we follow you, we talk about revolution. wherever there is a revolution there is a counter-revolution, if there are reds who want the whole world of violence to the ground, and then that is whites who tell us, like, kind of okay. so in that sense, it's the same question we asked about orbán. and not a camera. what options i ask you here, because, probably, there are some options and of

course they are, well, these will be questions for us. for them, there is nothing to replace gas with our corporate question, so for them the question is to the european economy to be or not to be to die to fall asleep to forget and dream to be. maybe, yes, that's how hamlet speaks. here is their question, see the degree of development civilization, the degree of comfort in people's lives depends on the amount of energy that civilization has, the country has, if they reduce energy consumption, and our gas is energy to the level of the middle of the 20th century, then the number of people who are in europe 320 is impossible not to feed. they must either be shipped to america or that's it. here's a simple dilemma, a simple dilemma, but look, one more question then. here is this dilemma, which already concerns the europeans, who have this difficult choice and all this western american-centric system, about which you yourself formulated that their question is to be or not to be, but i would add to be in the same capacity or continue to be in some other

capacity that they are not used to. you at one time, and here in this studio, and not only in this studio, where i listened, they said that they cannot erase russia from the modern world, no matter how hard they try, because the number of production chains in which we have built eight percent of world chains is embedded in russia it just means bringing down the entire world system crisis, a terrible crisis, in which even the great depression will seem like flowers. and here the question arises for me, what if you tell me that for them it is about preserving the system in which they dominate or transitions to some quality where they do not dominate, but do not dominate, but for america it is possible absolutely death, what do you think, is there an option that they will go for what you are talking about, destroy these chains, return it all to what is even worse global. this is the great depression radius. well, from the series, you don’t get to anyone. time will tell, we continue to work live

. ah, we continue the conversation about the nature of the current confrontation between the world economic and political e russia with part of the countries of the world and the american-centric world through the mouth of yaroslav kaczynski. we said this about the fact that it is absolutely not economic in nature, but in general, this speech is about psychology and politics, that is, to be or not to beat not to be their old world, in which they dominate and some other or and etc. we began to talk about whether, in your opinion, the united states of america is ready to go to the end to preserve this system, up to some powerful global crisis, given that russia cannot simply be excluded from the world economy without damage to everyone . i believe that they are ready to build a new world order. the fact is that the economic system of capitalism, which we have

been crushing for the last decades, has come to its logical end and i am talking about this, even here our president is at the valdai meeting in the altai club last fall, all that we saw was that the entire economic growth of the last decade was solely due to loans, because the owners of the means of production capital stopped sharing state capital with people, and automation and the withdrawal of enterprises from southeast asia e. this is a post- industrial world, which means that people, in order to maintain their previous standard of living, took more and more loans, and uh, now it becomes clear what to grow further. this credit bubble increases blow off. now it's friday night. someone has already come home from work. someone just turned on the tv and says. so so so so so what's there? here losev tells interesting things, only something is not very clear. people ask next time ok. so we go to the princes and say guys. no no. here is your old story. what do you

print videos for everyone? how many dollars do you want, we give you who, which means that for these candy wrappers we give oil, gas, uranium, palladium and a lot of other things that no longer work. we kind of disagree, they say no, no, guys, of course, you may not agree, but somehow we will be a little stronger. here we will push to the end. and if it will be necessary in order to crush you to destroy it all to hell, then we’d better destroy it all to hell , and then it will be as it will be. that’s the question people have, and that’s what it can be fraught with for everyone , if we went on principle, and they went on principle, and then what if they completely destroy the world economic system and build a dystopia where the elites the americans are in control. they expect to retain control over us, and for good reason. they recently published an article on the form of a face about why it is necessary to negotiate with russia, where the three main goals of these negotiations are set: the first is to stop putin from letting russia win, the second is hello

russia, manipulated obedient and the third is the overthrow of the regime. these are the goals of the goals they set , they do not change the goals, that is, they will arrange a dystopia at home to sharply lower the comfort level of their population. at the same time, in order to so that the population does not die at all, they need our resources. and they will do everything to have access to our resources and have control. this is what they are building, they are building a dystopia, but now we have received unique opportunities in two hell of february to jump out of this agenda, jump out of their plan and build our country without them. here only there is a conversation about that among the people who are now watching tv, and in general, this is quite. naturally they say, ok we all. in general, as if ready to jump out. we all understand. well maybe not all words. that's how not all of these schemes are, but in principle, we understand that from how the question should have popped up. they say that they we are jumping out from where and with what, relatively speaking, difficulties

and possible losses jumps. here we are jumping out of the old one, and we’re jumping where, given that the essence, because you said, i read this article and even, in general, posted a complete translation of it on my website there, and so on. there is an option such that they are not going to let us jump out anywhere at all. look here. here if the previous words, yes, uh. hmm putin uh, they admit it. uh, opponents too, of course, putin's strategic arsenal. it's unique. he really is a strategist. e, that is, he sees the situation in its entirety. in 2003, in 2003, i wrote that putin was building a new empire, a type built on a network principle, where he wrote, why do we need all these pipes, railways, and power lines. he built russia into the surrounding world. so take it out today. so without damage ten does not work stop. but we've already started.

to say that, perhaps, they are ready to snatch it even to the detriment of themselves, you listen to this german minister and all the others. it was not in vain that losev mentioned at the end of his speech that the 24th of february 24 , 2022, because this is the situation. eh, as if combat reminds me of, well, such a cartoon about a boxer, we box with an opponent. as if, well, more or less on an equal footing, and even, maybe, we inflict there, er, there are serious blows right up. sometimes we have. and some bastards crawl under our feet and try to gnaw us legs so er, that is, the rules are no more. i already told this to your studio, they are over. everything is going on right now. the war without rules is set by the one i visited in the framework of this boxing analogy, another slightly different option is that we box with them all the same. let's be honest, they're a heavyweight. and we're like that, but we're boxing by their rules. and those who

crawl under our feet, they don't crawl under our feet, in some places they kind of tie our legs. that is, we actually box something. so yes, but about what i ask, but why is it all, yes, and in 22 russia came up with such arguments, against which there are no objections, for example, they have already been demonstrated. by the way, a few months ago , putin uttered a phrase that is in the western press. there were solid question marks when he spoke, and he mentioned weapons based on new physical principles . on kinetic principles and everyone thought , lord, what else did he come up with, and we just showed it, because, uh, the dagger came to this base without actually a warhead, then this is some strength. do you understand what it is, and no one knows. at what distance he flies, they also thought 200 km. it would seem that. how far does it fly. that's the limit, it's true, of course, but you understand that when we talk about how far they are willing to go, it's to defend their

old world. we have to talk about how far. we are here here. there were times before february 24th. here i had such a stand. it was a long time ago, but i still remember it and that 's somewhere around here in this place. well here i am now in germany, there stood sytin alexander nikolaevich, who carried out this example many times. what if he told me artem you and i are arguing about something and i know that you have a gun in your pocket. but at the same time, i’m sure that you wo n’t shoot me from this pistol under the camera, then for me the presence of a pistol, even a grenade, even a machine gun, is not critical if i’m sure that you don’t line up, and i ’m sure that you didn’t shoot 24 number. why do we remember all the time everyone was sure that putin would not do this? and we did it. we are already there inside. eh, we got over this situation. now everyone understands, when our nuclear triad left, did anyone hear, uh, the news that she

returned nobody, and they did not have this news. she , after the order of shoigu, the submarine left the oceans. and they are all there and remember it all very well, that is, now putin actually announced his stake in an interview. and why do we need a world that will not be russia but alexander grigoryevich lukashenko is such a good mediator. great, answered the question. why are they not ready fight like that, but because they are accustomed to live well. they are always relaxed. yeah, if they take away their morning croissant, they will already give up, as they surrendered in the fortieth year, of course, that is, our bet is that we are ready to go to the end to the end and at the same time we have, roughly speaking, no reserve, well, patience perseverance. anything. more. we are not talking about ukraine now, we are talking about now, then look at the europeans. i roughly understand where their stock of patience is. yes, i understand that they have gas there, that they freeze, that they have gasoline, that they have croissants, and

, oddly enough, there are no croissants without gasoline, but the fact is that we started the program with the americans who are sitting overseas. for them, this is in general, everything anita is played somewhere in a spillikin over the ocean. look here, baida. after all, he continues to knit some of his own. this one, as if a tie, and all these experiences for him, that it’s not a hammer and that an orna, that they are all slovaks to him. he has some kind of his own. this is such a reality and his own game, please. i would like to talk today about the price that you and i have to pay here for putin's decision to brutally attack a sovereign country, together with european partners and nato allies, we are responsible, we are helping the ukrainian people economically and militarily, and we are imposing the toughest economic sanctions on russia in history, but how and said putin's war is making america and

other democracies around the world pay a heavy price. now many do not buy russian oil anymore. i banned oil imports to america russian oil is leaving world markets, so supplies are shrinking, and so now putin's price hike is hitting ordinary americans at the gas station. i’m now moving away from all this grandfather joe’s rhetoric well, putin’s price hike is already here, that this is all right, but still, it’s completely obvious that when he says all this, he says it in a frame, what kind of - it's his plan or some plan of which he is a part. what are they doing? we are talking here, we will go to the end. they will not go to the end, the europeans are freezing and so next, what do they do? that's how you understand their game now. their game is very simple america first and the american national interest comes first. everything else is a toolkit. you and i must remember the excellent formula of anglo-saxon diplomacy that these guys inherited from their former

metropolis. no, always allies. there are permanent interests. yeah, america is interested in everything that is here it was said to stay even more intensified to rot and drive us into the position of the nineties , but at the same time, so that in no case american interests suffered. if for these purposes it will be necessary to fight to the last ukrainian. you and i understand very well that they will fight, they will drag out the war in every possible way, when you say their goal is to rot us and drive us back to the nineties. describe to me, just imagine for a second that you are not even biden. it's hard to imagine everything is somehow very foggy there. and what about you, as if it were them, here you are in a row. what is your goal here? how do you understand it? what do you want to achieve in russia and with russia what tools, but it’s very simple americans always think in the style of a cowboy, who has a colt hanging on his side, this is their e, plus this is their very big minus, that is, they have a

limit to their e, strategic political, and thinking is also very very limited. yes , sometimes it even surprises how simple it is, they actually develop very simple combinations. what does it mean to make us as weak and dependent a and submissive as we were in the nineties. to we uh tool that's a tool that's how looks. here you say to make us the same here, explain to me the transition from the point. and when we are not now enough to point b where we are what they want, what they will do, how to achieve this, they will do, first of all. e, striving for the situation to end here, but with the maximum negative. for us. this is understandable military operation. they unleashed it for this. then they will do everything, but mostly by proxy in order to strangle us economically and the third is already doing it they do, but they don't do it very well. and now they perfectly understand what they are doing, nevertheless, nevertheless, it does not work out very well, especially after the

scholtsy did not understand what it is to pay in rubles for gas. yes, and they are not very good at it, but there is another very large one, but let's imagine this one. let's again stand a cowboy, how much is there, and a cowboy, how much is there, there is always an option in reserve such that if the situation does not go as we plan. god bless her with europe - these are their problems. we will sit down with the russians and come to an agreement. well so that our interests are always observed. this is the second option to remember, that's why i always try to speak. yes america behaves very badly. yes, america has unleashed this whole thing, normal ukrainians have long understood that they are victims, just like in yugoslavia, this is such a pitting of this. yes? well, they understand that now normal ukrainians. we, since normal ukrainians come very quickly from the group , agree, yes, but, nevertheless, the americans. eh, here they always e come from what if it doesn't work. the most important thing is that our interests do not suffer, and we will sit somewhere with the russians and agree on something in other words.

you tell me, no, i’ll even say terrible words, because europe is, in general, a region that even ourselves i heard this american expert amazes us to what level of degradation europe has reached, and what is she doing the way she does ? here is the rage from her impotent malice, as it used to be. yes, but here is the option. and you know, when is the berlin crisis. that's very there was a serious berlin crisis since the sixty- first year, tanks have been facing each other, but in fact, as it turns out, all this was in a certain sense coordinated, this is the highest diplomacy, when larn sits down in a cafe and says, there is a certain limit, you understand? well , we can't lose face. we have to win back somehow, but keep in mind that the gun i have is empty. i won't shoot. and you, as it were, about the sixty-first year, that all this was agreed to certain limits simply. to the historical analogy, of course, or now you think it is historical taxes, and just which , uh, there is a precedent precedent that

confirms very well that when the americans understand that they will not go any further. they will always put our interests first. yeah, our allies are secondary. they will fade away. they are after all. this is their problem and the third. they always understand that it is possible to agree with whom who is strong understood. and this strong one is us, that is, in other words, alexey yuryevich tells me following. why, knowing the americans, and he knows them, and i believe him, the situation is as follows, that they will now put pressure on everyone. how can they push to show colt as much as possible and not only colt, and that somewhere there is that line to which if we hold out and do not retreat, they will come and begin to negotiate. surprise me this line, how do you imagine it explain. uh, than you asked, how they will try to crush russia uh with one e in the political in the psychological they have already lost russia did, something from which they did not expect from her and in every possible way are now in

shock. now they will press politically. you are crossing out, uh, changing the doctrine of containment to the doctrine of removal of these suffocation suffocation uh, cross out. and so expel all the diplomats like that. here is an attempt to look like diplomats close hmm put in isolation in the economy to deprive uh, deprive russia of the sales market of money. e deprive new ones. uh, technology, which is impossible without harming yourself, as described, yes, the next and uh, here is the most acute war of attrition. how can blood, how can longer, as long as possible, but it would be possible. uh, if we also didn't have a colt with equality with the same strength, and maybe on the russian strength, uh, a nuclear umbrella is impossible. yes, two umbrellas, we can offer, and they can offer, and the americans are now on their way. indeed create new alliances.

if something happens, they will risk risking europe by creating other others in its place, leaving here with them, turning europe, uh, into their own donor, which they will not eat up in the same way that ukraine should be replaced. we have the power they are, and in this they constantly write that regime change. ra is the main goal in russia. and that while putin is in russia, we cannot win in russia , we need to change the regime. that's what they say all the time is their last hope. and this is hope. now it crumbled, but change the holding still look still look. you say that they have the last hope to change the regime to change putin and so on, but let's say they have it for now. eh, nothing works, yes, but i still asked you the wrong question that you answered me. i asked you. how do you imagine that edge eventually and in time until which we must hold out, after which i did not understand, they understand that it is necessary to negotiate with the russians at the expense of someone, that they need to get rid of attempts to

change regimes and so on, and it is necessary to agree. it is for this that we must achieve what to do, what on earth in the economy? excuse me riots and uh, confrontation white white black america colored and different is what will inevitably happen in america when will the deterioration begin? excuse me, how is it do sign in to our viewers. you are telling our viewers, who know that today is april 1st, that we must stand firm. here, as if until the melt until the bottles in america begin to hold on to us. this is what they need to hold on to. we have. excuse me. uh, for 2022 years, russia happened, uh, came to a state where it is the main products of life support. it is more or less provided for the activities of people. she has it, unlike the united states, unlike england, which