in mariupol from what date from february 21 from february 21 ? where i fought in mariupol, i didn’t fight, i once went to the sp e to help our reconnaissance officers and they began to fire at us. well, when i was already sitting on you understand that your fingers will roll away your face, they will break through the internet and everything will still pop up, you understand, well then damn, you perfectly understand your prospects. i don’t believe you well with them, the quality of his face, when you were loaded, the heliport was, in my opinion, on the port of the port. yes, how many helicopters were there four, i i saw four people. how did you get hit? i don't know

how they beat us, because i saw one big flash, closed my eyes, fell to the floor and woke up. i'm already broken on the ground. helicopters, when they arrived at the port, right? approximately 5:00 am, also today at 5:00 am, and flew out, well loaded. there, literally half an hour, maybe even a little less, and in the port on which platform they stand, because i'm not a local, like i don't rummage at all. there's nothing there. who's guarding the port now, too, i can't tell you anything, because i don't know. how much in other helicopters almost 14 15 people were loaded, all the gaps are gone. i'm telling you, we were loaded and trevoshniks and loaded and azov in different helicopters. to be honest , there is no remorse. although the russian guy

from odessa speaks pure russian. in general , practically without an accent, and here we recall the words of eduard basurin, when he told us here in an interview that you can’t trust captivity now, because they can say anything, just to avoid punishment. here, here, he has been in mariupol for a month and says, i am in combat did not take part in the action. we once went out for reconnaissance. at the same time for a month. he doesn’t know the name, but the control points do n’t know anything, i’m not a local worn by yuryevich, so i understand, yes, that he is in a state of shock now , but nevertheless, this is an azov, 21 year old boy. as possorilin explained to us, too, in azov there were no calls for people, all ideas there are accidentally ideological nationalists. this is a 21-year-old russian guy, how did he get there. and what is the future . those who could not evacuate, here's to your subjective view. well, in my opinion he ended up there for other reasons, he is not a fool, he perfectly understands what awaits him, but he tries

to hide information as much as possible in some way, that i cannot believe that he does not know the name of his commander directly. i only know the callsign, or maybe in theory it could be that in azov for the sake of secrecy, because everyone perfectly understands their future fate, especially after the start of special operations. they refused to use their real given names because we showed footage from their identity even azov. the name, surname and call sign are written there. that is, they never concealed their names and callsigns solely for convenience. i think that they did not hide their names. e, when transmitting them over a communication channel. and when they are there, sorry, they sat, uh, in cramped quarters and in general, with such difficult conditions. i don't think they were addressing each other in posture this first, so obviously he 's hiding it. secondly, he even slips purely psychologically. i won't tell you because i know, yes, because he doesn't want to talk, he's been there for a month, excuse me. already rubbed, let's say, at this plant, and he does not know where the site is. he

is not local. yes, he is already there the most local of the locals. he has already studied everything there. as you, in a month, a military man is obliged, from the point of view of even a charter, to study, conduct the adjacent territory or as a filling and determine the key landmarks of the performance and be able to make independent decisions in the event of the death of the commander. what do you think is the fate of two helicopters that, uh, were not hit, they had chances to leave from there, realizing that we were waiting for them, we were preparing and as soon as they took off, two helicopters were hit. and the rest so far, the fate is officially unknown while everything is unknown in the war and sometimes it happens that a nationalist. so to speak, some kind of luck will smile. everything happens in a war, nothing can be ruled out. but most likely with a huge degree of probability. they were forced to return, because there really were no netu e units for the nearest hundreds of kilometers there, no one could help them. and we have there very tight defense and what we knew, moreover, they were flying there, they understood that these helicopters were

there and let him escape, well, andrei konstantinovich has very little chance of whom, in your opinion, they tried to withdraw, more precisely, they did not try. they've been 2 days in a row and i'm pretty sure there's going to be another try today. perhaps not by helicopter, but by other methods. they are trying to get someone out of the territory. azov stood up, they are taking out foreign military specialists. and here is the approach. obviously everyone understands. now already. well it's time special operations foreign military experts, who is this person is a western intelligence officer. is it an army officer or is it a civilian specialist who is of key importance, of course, now civilian specialists are there, it is unlikely that there were military specialists or intelligence specialists for western countries who are actually the masters of the ukrainian regime - these are their own, and the natives are cannon fodder . but they need to be saved. why because otherwise, if you do not save then other military specialists there

will be sent to the war zone. it is extremely difficult, the second and this is all that the population of ukraine should know and the current leadership, the second is the command of these people who said that we would die for her in ukraine, who urged the rest to do so, abandon their subordinates and save their own skins . they played the part. clear. this is recognized by western experts that within the next few days mariupol will fall, they need to move to a new stage. and they can relax. that's what they brought there hmm i i think that indeed, probably, ammunition in order to support is no less important and perhaps a fresh batch of drugs was brought there. people have to keep going. we must continue to keep them in a state of euphoria, so that they easily walk. the death of commanders to bring out those whom they

consider cannon fodder to throw into slaughter, this is practically nazism. this is the whole tactic of the current institution. uh, a day already, how the french government is trying to actively insist that humanitarian corridors be opened speaks of this president of france close-up. moreover, they connect turkey and greece to these so-called humanitarian corridors from mariupol, the only question is , why are the french suddenly exactly the french? surely, many of our viewers have noticed that president macron has been talking to putin on the phone lately, probably more often than with his wife. because he has some kind of special interest, there is scholz, he doesn’t speak so actively, like the frenchman, as the president of macron, as the president of france, there is an understanding, why this is happening, it can be assumed that there are

french states that led the defense and are trying to pull them out so that there is no international scandal. these are quite high- ranking officers, which we are showing footage. of a crashed helicopter here, of course, you understand that who is smeared here, what do you think, these corpses can be called that, but they who will be able to find out who, because from experience before, as it was foreign mercenaries, they simply burned now there are bodies, and 7 m, fell bodies intact. eh, they can probably be identified. who is this? may be? well, these are clearly not mercenaries. these are most likely regular officers and, of course, they will be wearing the uniform of the kiev regime, so they will need to be identified by not wise men. and as for the export of nitrogen leadership, then, uh, i believe that the kiev regime counted in the event. if this can be

done, then they will imitate, as if the defeat of the regiments did not happen, so that these people would later speak in kiev at a press conference. they said, we ordered our people. you p-spread out come out in groups. they all left now the regiment is being reorganized. everything is fine. so we win and so on. well, that is, to support this melting spirit by simulating that everything is fine. yes? yes, they lost mariupol, but you left azov, the most important unit is the most effective, how they positioned themselves, and this maneuver seems to fail, see the continuation of this topic, and the other day, if i'm not mistaken. yesterday already the days were somehow compressed into one continuous information flow. i'm going. it was the day before yesterday in france fired. uh, the director of military intelligence in france, you know why he was fired because of ukraine, they say. ah, the director of french intelligence could not foresee the consequences of a military special operation of russian troops

on the territory of this french country once again, the french head of french intelligence is fired for our military special operation in ukraine refat, how is it at all? can you comment? yes, here is a simple comment, they are starting to clean up, firstly, and france actively participated in mariupol, this, in principle, is a well-known fact. secondly, their insistence that they are humanitarian corridors there and at the same time planes are flying, but it clearly looks like this is some kind of planned special operation. and the fact that the chief intelligence officer is being fired, but on the one hand it is clear that they understood little about how we are. let's go and what are we going to do? yes, and obviously, uh, the leadership of france turned out to be completely misinformed about our actions, they wanted to do something, on the other hand, they were for the cleansing, they understand what will happen, on whom everything is to be blamed,

you understand? uh, if someone from uh is found there, the french, yes, and from their specialists. and i think we will find them, there will be someone to blame, that he acted somehow we definitely still have to expect that there will still be resignations from them, they will gradually gradually recognize, because we are, look, we found some chevrons at the crash site helicopter. pay attention to these chevrons. of course, i understand that, purely in theory, ukrainian military personnel could use e, they could use the e uniform of any country, but here morocco south africa yes, the french are so french foreign legion, because morocco is like a french colony for a minute, well, there was tanzania apparently. well, i’m busy there , too, yes, that’s the question in south africa. but it’s not really a question, because the mere fact of having foreign chevrons on the helicopter that tried to evacuate someone, we

still can’t say which of the azovs have already says that foreigners are involved here, especially against the backdrop of the dismissal of the head of the french outlet. yes, they could understand more ruslan oni could. i think that we can expect more next and next attempts, it will be endless, we will not finish it endlessly. yes, all there it will be endless. why because here and here, uh, it was not in vain that he called this call sign odessit azov yes , like, i'm three hundredth, what is three hundredth, this is wounded. yes, they could now dilute it all with some kind of wounded, then look and see where we are attacking them, yes, then go along the humanitarian lines. corridors and try to get them out anyway, maybe it was a test verification. history. you see, i’m sure that our military’s first attempt, we didn’t let the helicopter fly, see morocco is definitely a french colony. here is tanzania south africa if i am mistaken, after all, probably, the british colonies, and then

a logical conditional question arises, although why conditionally, and with whom are we fighting not only in ukraine because now we are conducting a special operation in ukraine and are facing direct actions from the united states of britain and france and ukraine are not at war, we are at war with the kiev regime, as our supreme commander said the commander-in-chief there is the leadership of a drug addict and she is his nazis, but in fact we are at war, well, in general, let's say quite the western world. so. i don't want anyone in general with everything or with specific countries, because, well, if some chinese map or here we mean, this here is the western world, because uh, they are completely pointing targets. bye. uh, in accordance with which the ukrainian military fire at our military. they are completely. yes, excuse me, the country is at war ukraine , they supply lethal weapons to the warring country the weapon is offensive. so they normally just use ukraine for the war with russia as

a battlefield? well, ukrainians are like cannon fodder. and what is very important, what remains to be noted about how macron gets worried, why he got worried about humanitarian corridors. and where was he before, when really there one or two people came out and shot at them, they couldn’t get out, he didn’t worry at all the corridor, didn’t worry at all. and now, you know, he fussed. it can be seen, he fussed, the leader of turkey fussed there and, in my opinion, shlts. they are actively illuminated. why? it seems that tens of thousands of people are already leaving there. mariupol is practically liberated ; this territory is left at the plant. and that's why he got worried, because eduard aleksandrovich basurin said that we offered these neo-nazi leaders to leave, we will not make such proposals anymore. they will be destroyed. and i seriously suspect that there are not just some instructors or assistants, but there in the manual this operation is the developers themselves the operation of a human shield, which semyon spoke on the run,

the current acting officers of nato and i do not exclude that there is, in fact, a direct conflict of participation in this conflict. and these people are probably exposed. they can be recognized by the police, but to destroy them, as they said correctly, just take them together and somehow destroy them, as the first one said, but these are high-ranking people. this is the leader. can't, right? well, we can, they cannot destroy them there themselves, because they are their leaders and this proves it. and about that that i sounded here, that these are not legally mercenaries. they are mercenaries, there are no contracts. they are there illegally, they are not citizens of ukraine. i think that now they will identify a person, and we can already speak specifically. they show that this is possible mercenaries from africa mercenaries come in different classes of mercenaries from africa. even when you fall, you could be there people with white. they they can be god why, that is hardly in tanzania. let's be honest tanzania is unlikely, but they fly by helicopter at night to

they land at 5:00 in the morning, and we know and asked specialists that russian-made soviet -made helicopters do not have beacons of their own, that is, our system cannot be recognized. uh, their technical alien use a helmet, american -made ukrainians with night vision devices, which are coordinated, among other things, with american intelligence. it is in these operations. and i will repeat my question, which vasilich created, with whom we are fighting. we're afraid of the proxy army. west means, here you are, you have shown a fighter of this proclamation. you are his for some reason called russian. here, although he is not russian. no, he is definitely a fact that he is not russian, because he is a russian speaker. let's say so yes, russian-speaking russian-speaking russian-speaking, well, not russian, because russian is, uh, the civilizational identity of belonging to

a certain culture is well known in the world and well known. how is it different from everything else. so he doesn't belong to her. here he was born in 2000, this is the homunculus, which is grown in this flask of nazi ukraine . to her, he knows nothing about anything else, about anything russian does not have the slightest idea. so it's an enemy. look, this is the face of the enemy. this is such an enemy, it means that it is such that this face, so that we begin to feel pity here, so that we begin to build some kind of compromises here. here a cannot be compromised with this. you see, just as we did not compromise with vlasov's army. although for some time general vlasov, in fact, fought on our side and even proved himself heroic in the defense of moscow. well, what? so what? and there was another russian general, who later headed finland. that is , it turns out that they don’t need to put up memorial plaques

, of course, we did it ourselves with our own hands. well, we tried to do it. try oops place. we need to get rid of him. this is the enemy. this is how he looks like elena, but it turns out that this is our weak point, that we cannot distinguish in appearance a person who seems to look like we say, like us, but inside he is not like us. well we don't have weak places in this regard. i believe that we are initially set up to save our lives, and therefore we are our prisoners. for all that, they are defeated in the fact that they are to blame, and even we know that they are to blame. we still treat them humanistically, because the kids even refused to put down their weapons, and who tried to get out in helicopters and, uh, here's the man who interrogated. he asked in great detail, it is clear that he will still ask there and promised

unconditionally, promised on the internet. i am sure that even if certain circumstances come to light after a thorough interrogation, it still won't be what they're doing, er. the other side with our prisoners of war with civilians, in general, just now a colleague was drawing parallels with the second world war. as a military historian, i am a person who has long been engaged in the topic of search, i constantly see these parallels. they amaze me. we are discussing here who we fought with, working on the battlefields, we find e not only german weapons we find. i mean the second world war. yes we find swedish weapon. we find czech weapons. we find canned goods. holland switzerland the whole world repeats history repeats the same thing. if you look at the news, who is ready to supply these weapons? even the same ones are the same in the first place, and secondly, these are countries that say no. we don't want nato to go for weapons, we'll let you guys

decide, please, weapons, you've already entered. as a matter of fact, well, the topic of mercenaries is something that is being discussed with the leadership of the french headquarters. but this will already be a direct proof that these people are gently speaking, they are hypocritical, they are cunning, and they simply lie to all of us, not only to us, but to the whole world. and what can we do as a result against us now stands the so-called western so -called western civilized world. well , firstly, you need to understand that this is a minority, they are shouting that we are the whole world, and i want, and not shouting that 120 countries voted against russia among these countries of micronesia, similar states that have maintained friendly relations with russia, which are now under terrible pressure. china is trying to support us india a. brazil country brix, uh, these are the countries in which the majority of human beings unite the

majority of humanity. russia is now actually at the forefront of the liberation struggle of mankind, which is of all mankind, which is trying to free itself from the imposed parasitic system, when the united states of america and great britain, due to the fact that they turned the dollar into a universal the equivalent of the cost is robbed of all countries for electronic zeros, they take away real resources and material products, and they live on this russia broke through this front and it a huge number of sympathizers around the world. and this must be understood as the second unity within the western camp. no, there is discipline, you are the caps on the american intelligence services. current leaders. western western european countries, of course, swear by the creak. popular measures unfavorable for them are moaning, but here is the first first

serious blow from russia, buy gas for rubles, slovakia hungary immediately to the side they don’t want to be just the beginning and this is just the beginning with us right now rinat is in direct contact esenaliev. let's find out what is the situation on the ground rinat hello where are you now ? hello i have been out before. uh , i cook almost every day and i have also been to lugansk more than once. well, for several days. the fact is that now there is such a conversation between military correspondents and journalists that, well, it’s very, very difficult to constantly be in mariupol, because, as it were, psychologically it is. well, not everyone makes it. uh, even from my own experience i can say that, for example, it is easier to find oneself as a soldier than to see and directly illuminate. these are like human suffering, after all, as children, for example,

the fourth people in a row come out over the corpses of the ukrainian military. well, it's hard to see. guys, for sure. follow the situation last night. uh, in the morning with about four helicopters. what do you know about it that they say there on the ground? who was taken out? well, desperate attempt and so the move is, in fact crazy they are impressions from above low altitude, but i understand, to be frank, then most likely, the number of helicopters and the small group they would not have gone to you. why did they leave the height, uh, not to be detected by our radars correctly or simply, in order to or look for another explanation yes on only this way, yes, only this way. this, when they had already begun to gain altitude, it turned out to move away from the city. well, they were

already beaten up precisely in the donetsk people's republic , sort of like from trophy stingers, but i'm afraid i could be wrong. and who was taken out there is an understanding. i repeat once again the leadership of azov, who was taken out, we have now discussed with us the version of either the foreign leadership of azov and most likely on germans. but i think we don't know what it was to uh. well, this is a conditional helicopter column. how many helicopters were there in total? well, come on, here it is this group, well, it's too little, most likely, after all, some kind of internet. i think we managed to leave, but it was the leadership that was taken away, therefore, because they need to keep a coca-someone symbol a symbol of people who got in touch with the same gordon and so on, because they want to take some points for themselves in this unconditional, as it were, defeat

is very loud. not very clear. how many are there how many of these leaders and mercenaries, if four helicopters were sent yesterday, how many more attempts will they make? do you have any information on how many foreign mercenaries of foreign specialists can be there at the moment on the territory of azovstal? according to information and enough. well, there are definitely more than a few factories there, in principle, i think, maybe only there can be such a situation that they will be liquidated with the armed forces themselves and the azov regiment itself , because, whatever one may say, they will again be try, somehow somewhere to be covered. well , to make even such a defeat a rout. they will depend on the traces. we do not know they took away, they are living people. maybe they have already removed the corpses of the mercenaries. this is also, maybe, that's why yes, yes, thank you very much rinat izaliev from donetsk

, after all, the story with helicopters. she still requires her investigation to continue confidently it will. yesterday, when trying to evacuate from the territory of the plant, the ukrainian canyon of the nazis was destroyed two helicopters, the fate of the other two helicopters. at the moment, it remains unknown presumably. they landed back on the territory. azov began to lead the impossibility to leave the territory and on the eve of this event, france dismisses the head of its intelligence, vasily yurievich, related events. these are definitely completely connected events, because france claims that he was fired, allegedly because he did not calculate the beginning of the special operation. but this is nonsense, the special operation has been going on for more than a month, he was fired, not only because he did not calculate the sad end of the mariupol groupings in which for sure there are high-ranking nato military personnel nato or specifically france well, probably, in this case specifically france, but i think it's not only france but what is the level of specialist rank? you can assume that yours is no lower than a colonel

, i’m absolutely afraid to even guess further. and i believe that they were in charge of this operation. they just advised. that is, that human shield operation of the human shield, which semyon pegov told us. this, perhaps their creation is in the spirit of nato, they do it this way, we know it. informational the channel on the first continues its work this time will show we are working live olesya loseva and anatoly kuzichev. let's right from the very beginning of this part of our program, talk with yuri podlyakov with us in direct communication with sevastopol yuri ivanovich hello. good morning. yes. uh, thanks for coming out to see us. let's. let's, then first a summary, and then perhaps a few clarifying questions, a summary of the current situation, i ask, well, in general, yesterday's is not particularly different, that is, it happens in the north the regrouping of a significant part of the russian troops are deployed in the southern direction. this is the region of donbass, this is the region of the eastern part of dnepropetrovsk, zaporozhye, kharkiv region, that is, all parties are preparing for a grandiose

battle, which will predetermine the outcome of the war, according to the data on the russian troops, i don’t have, but on the topic, the data that i collected on the ukrainian troops. it is even already, probably, a little more planned by the combat units of all ukrainian armed forces to use in this battle. uh, a huge part a significant part of the troops is being transferred to western ukraine from the south from kiev, that is, in fact, everyone is really preparing for this big battle in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe raisin of slavyansk kramatorsk donbass and further along with access to dnepropetrovsk and zaporozhye, and there are already separate elements of the beginning of this operation , that is , a breakthrough is being made from the south of gorlovka, and from the side of eastern volleyball. under the raisins also resumed battles while advancing. i can't say because i don't usually have these data did not arrive in the afternoon and there were offensive actions by russian troops from kherson, but in general already yesterday on

the territory of the kherson region to the southern part. all of these are the units that the ukrainians entered, supposedly for the capture of kherson, they will also drink in the nikolaev direction and imer. nikolaev accepting a. governor. nikolaeva kim is talking more and more now about the defense in that it is necessary to lag behind nikolaev a. not an offensive although the krivoy rog groupie. in the north, it is actively trying to dislodge russian troops from those positions that did not take a few days ago, somehow aha understood. and when you talk about it, the decisive, er, decisive battle. and why is it decisive, because , well, so to speak? uh, there are huge forces, let's say grouped, and in the event of a victory, for example, the russian side. it will simply be possible to state that the ukrainian army no longer exists, as well as the military industry. what did the arrest officer report yesterday, or because it is strategically important? i do not know the bridgeheads of the direction. no, this is exactly the first, because there will be concentrated more than half of all combat-ready ukrainian armed forces do not count defense. that is. eh, if it’s really possible to

completely destroy the whole thing there, then, in fact. further , the military campaign will be reduced to, uh, much simpler military operations than the one that is planned in the donbass, uh, counts in a hundred yes, it’s for the russian troops to wear out the battles, and the russian units in defensive battles and so . and the war, well, relatively better conditions for themselves, to avoid e quick defeat. here this task, which is placed before the armed forces, in addition to the russian-russian troops to become annihilation. here is this grouping, respectively, further is the liberation. ukraine will be much faster. understood then the last more clarifying question. and here you are. how do you say to transfer military operations in an acceptable direction. this is what such a protracted and not very acute phase is, but for the kiev leadership, they don’t care about the industry for what you say, and in fact , they don’t care about the industry, they do order. and they have an order for 30 years to exhaust

russia alone, that is, it doesn’t matter. in what form yet