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we continue to work live, but we already said today and many have already said about this today that when we observe such an active and such a general hysteria. it always leads us from experience to think that, well, something like that is intended. that's very far, going, because i remember very well, that's what i have left right now, that when they were creaking, there was nothing yet. it is known, only the first first some information went. right here already we are all shoulder to shoulder in the same ranks condemn russia sanctions. it was the same with these czech stories about the explosions of the contribution to the oatmeal. i remember how almost the day after the downing of the boeing, obama said this year that they were russians. that is, it is always some kind of turning point or an attempt to achieve something with this most powerful throw-in, but to turn it around, that is, this is not just some kind of ukrainian fake. and this is a fake, which is developed prepared. quite obviously on a

global scale. in any case, the scale western world. and this means sergeyevich must have some kind of him. well, a goal that is understandable to someone, well, when we talk about the western world, we always remember grandpa joe biden, grandpa joe woke up today, and how would they say grandpa joe there butch in the bucha, what do you say and this wives say that i said something like that, but i said it rather ambiguously, please. you probably remember that i was criticized for calling putin a war criminal, he is a war criminal, but we must collect information and provide ukraine weapons to keep them fighting collect all the details so that this is a real war crime court case this guy is a barbarian, what is happening in the future is outrageous and everyone has seen it. i think it's a war crime. i am seeking new sanctions. i continued to impose sanctions. why am i saying this? and i will tell you that this is

ambiguous. well, because if you are already saying that this is a war crime and you are going to impose sanctions on this basis. then why do you need to collect information and why do you some kind of tribunal, because the tribunal is still an attempt, there was no way to figure it out. well , as if in these reminiscences about how the law exists in general. there, first, there is a collection of information, then there is a tribunal, and then at the exit from the tribunal it says once - this is a war crime, then the sanctions are shmantsy , and so on and so forth. he speaks ambiguously on the one hand. he needs to collect information to prepare for the tribunal, but on the other hand. what for you tribunal if already military the criminal already needs to be given weapons and already to impose sanctions, moreover, he still hasn’t decided yet, let’s say, with the degree of assessment of this event, because when he was asked whether he thinks, the way he is trying to slip it on him or bob means whether he considers it genocide, he replied. no, that is, as if he is

not yet ready for genocide, because genocide is already, as it were, the next degree of reaction in this sense. nikita sergeevich sanctions, uh, what's the purpose? how do you think it will be used ? in what sense is it first of all, the military component is the supply of heavy weapons. these are tanks, these are anti-ship missiles. that is, those things that a week ago. this is very important because neither in europe nor in the united states of america were they ready to supply any kind of stingers. yes, maybe something else, but heavy weapons, long-range long-range artillery, only just the british, however, made a small false start, they said that they were ready to generally reconsider military assistance, and in this sense, this is a provocation in buche. she really contributes. because public opinion in the west will be

consolidated in the context of the need to help, but to help even more with more deadly weapons. i'll just remind you, dear colleagues, just recently. we remember trying, for example, in italy to send military aid to ukraine is not humanitarian, but the people who collected simple hard workers who actually worked did not tell the public about this either. yes, they knew it. they actually declared what they were going to do, this would not happen anymore , they began to take place all over europe. this is also very important. all kinds of actions, where they have already begun to give up the question, are there really normal guys in ukraine, or are there nazis in this regard, there is still a local goal. here's a weapon - it's a strategic tactical goal is so that public consciousness is focused on these war crimes, murders. i will explain why we remember how the story of the bombing was hyped, which means that the zaporozhye nuclear power plant was very strongly targeted at the european consumer. it's acting didn't work tried. selling

means russian barbarians, these orcs are trying to bomb the maternity hospital, and there still women in labor have not succeeded. well, not only did it not work out, but there was an exposure of this very heroine herself, who there the heroine herself spoke about something else, but it is clear that this is very important. no, i'm talking about what didn’t work out is this semantic pattern that the russian barbarians are war criminals . that is why it is not now. wait butch - this is the next stage of such stages. like cocoa. petrovich still, maybe a lot, a lot, but just a week ago, as we remember, because of those absolutely barbaric shots that we saw, where our guys were shot, yes, they were tortured, and in europe they began to ask questions. is it really true in ukraine and it appeared it is very important in those newspapers that are rupa propaganda, and magazines which before that it was unthinkable and see the situation in bucha analogy silversmith genocide the focus of public attention. everyone forgets that there are nazis in ukraine

, and indeed there is an increase in military assistance. everyone forgets that these nazis are violating the women's convention and increasing military assistance, and then the sanctions component is included. why because after they say on the high podium that listen, well, the russians are trying to arrange a new piece of silver there. how do you not can you give up your gas, which yes feeds your industry? yes, without which you still object to us providing them with heavy equipment in precisely this sense. here is a provocation. it is very important. it seems to me that she was ripped off. she was ripped off. yes, we still don’t see how it was built, where it was torn down by the performers themselves, because i don’t explain it well, let’s see what solutions will be. as far as how white threads. this is a provocation done, then how brazenly they try not even allow our voice inside the security council it says what you are looking at. the fact that this is a provocation 100% did not take place. but that there will be

others and will put pressure on it, i will certainly explain why, because when in the united states the president is biden, he says that our president is a war criminal, forgive me, rewind back. there is no any communication with our president. in that case, there won't be any more. then we become part of asizla new conditionally. this is what he was talking about, respecting the senior colleague, the war to destroy our states. speaking of the security council here comes the news. uh, literally 10 minutes ago, the russian federation and i think this is the right persistence. yes, it’s clear that no one wants to hear any of our arguments, but, nevertheless, the russian federation has requested an emergency meeting of the un security council on the provocation of radicals in the ukrainian buta at 22:00 moscow time on monday, that is, ours continue to crush ours continue to crush believe that it’s right continue to push yes but uh and now here after all the question is, who plays what. look, our

people say, well, okay, guys. if you think there was something. let's get together to discuss. let's follow the other side. here nikita sergeevich he said, after all, this butch really breaks and yes, i agree already, perhaps some trends have been broken. and what really began to give up the question of the nazis was not the nazis torture of prisoners, not torture of prisoners, but the supply of weapons, because just yesterday or the day before yesterday. here's mikhail podolak. this, by the way, is question. this is such a negotiator, that is, on the one hand. he is, as it were, a ukrainian negotiator, but on the other hand. here he is addressing his masters. here he is talking. and he has an owner. so he tells them, please. sanctions against the russian federation are not enough to destroy the russian economy and stop the killing of ukrainians, you need a direct embargo on all russian energy resources or an indirect embargo through the closure of ports for russian goods 85% of oil, tankers. or tell us are you fighting up the last ukrainian. they are immediately told guys,

of course, ukrainians are fighting to the last. in general, we just really like it, and uh, johnson johnson is really the only one at that time already saying that we are in order to fight to the last ukrainian. we will give you some more weapons, please. boris johnson told the minister that he wants to arm ukraine against ship-based missiles in order to prevent russian bombing and attacks on odessa , which the uk considers the next target. russian invasion was also said about self-propelled artillery installations. and the americans also said that they would buy and provide them, and soviet-made tanks and so on and so forth, but if only johnson and the americans spoke about this before the storm, now, probably, this is the topic with the provision of lethal weapons and so on , the topic of banning sanctions might work, it might work, and so on. please, and nevertheless, we need to convene the security council, we need to have a dialogue

with everyone, who is able to hear? i'm just here by his own example yesterday deep in the night. i talked with some of my western friends, well, who are ready to listen to the arguments, and so it’s very good that we have a map here in front of us, when i spoke with them, the map was so virtual. look at the map, it means chernihiv region, it's all over. under the ukrainians , the entire kiev region, and now, when the map was still being drawn, the sumy region is partially. here we have green already the entire sumy region. uh, also under the ukrainians. why nowhere? here i say, i'm mine, eh colleagues. why didn't something like this happen anywhere else in the city? well, let's say, well, there were many cities on the rumor there was a russian administration, even they tried to create it. but that's why everything here is what the biden vibers say, there and so on. why did they focus on one unfortunate butch? why in the city of konotop is the unkind

city of glory, by the way, speaking, there, uh, our royal troops were defeated. well, there would be what he feels, if if all the russian soldiers who entered there are such walbs, young killers and so further. why did they choose this one storm, so i didn’t think about it, artyom you know, of course, they didn’t begin to talk. well, in general, there is really only no trust, but judging. well, they thought about how they reacted, because well, logic must be included. well, this is defiantly like this. killing a single city on the same street, but this does not fit, the information war is not logic. and because, of course, a lot more logic can be added to this logic. we can say that really why is nowhere in chernihiv a kievskaya and as i understand it, the sumy region has already been partially abandoned. why was this nowhere more than that, while ours were in the bucha for more than one

day, not 2 days, not 3 days. they were there for a long time. why all of a sudden nothing was done there all this time, and suddenly they decided to do it under the conclusion is not clear. why is this and also what is a relative of these people, that they were not looking for these, at least three days between how our maxim and how is this the key question is that this is the key question, roughly speaking, in situations information warfare works. logic does not work, because you can talk a lot about logic. i was thinking about this today too. well , listen, we saw mariupol with you, when the real bastards leave mariupol, volnovakha, rubizhne, that is, the vushniks and the national battalion. they are mined there. everything, everything is in stretch marks. everything means in mines and so on. if , as they try to present to the world community, ours , it means animals, then why in this storm 3 days after that, bob was barely tied, which means we just need to address those who are not

participating in the information war. do not think that all westerners depend on something. all western politicians are engaged in a conscious information war. no, someone really wants to get to the bottom of the truth and that's up to them, if we are really internally convinced that they are, according to the way you spoke, even three internal ones are convinced of this. yes , but on other issues, no, so you know that i do not come here and do not teach. but here i am convinced. yes, oh, i am convinced that the russian soldiers came there, and by order he will not do this. and most importantly, it makes no sense. yes, here is one ukrainian journalist very well known to me , wonderful, by the way, the journalist himself was born in russia in general, absolutely not a nationalist; they made a report from the city of gostomel, and there the bottom line is that the looters, and did not leave anything in the apartments, removed the doors. i can’t imagine that our soldiers would remove all the interior doors there to

do with them, what to take them to belarus on their bti, then they will be transferred to the donbass resell it to poland in front of the officers and the generals. they will lead these doors. this is the handwriting of completely different people. the truth yes , let's go, we'll be back so much. remember how the special operation began and what task the president set to save as much as possible the civilian population and our officers, the soldiers who entered, including the kiev direction, the first three days. they didn’t even have the right to open a year to the side of wednesday, the point, especially at home, even regardless of the fact that someone was there or was that, well, the truth, in truth, brought a little. there are more losses than could be. this is what happened in any variant, in any variant, our servicemen, really, let's say they didn't touch anyone. this time we are

talking about it with you. you, as a military man, understand. so you say, when we came in, we suffered losses, and we didn’t shoot at the civilian population. and now people are asking why we left. well, yes, that's a fair question. why left uh is a fair question. well for any man out there supports it does not support this question is still there. why did we leave the kyiv region? why did we leave the chernihiv region, and i’m pavel from most of sumy, too, is already leaving you, as a military man in the past and as a current deputy, and simply, as a person, you have answers to these questions for yourself. let's try to explain when we originally created the plan for the demilitarization of ukraine, so we set the first goals of the tasks during the conduct of hostilities and during the special operation.

the goals and objectives of the plan have not changed in any way. they still stand for the denazification and demilitarization of ukraine, and i agree with my colleagues that all this can only end on the polish border, there is no other option for us when the plan is still not at home. based on the realities that we saw, and we saw ukraine in the same state as nazi germany in the forty-fifth year. well, it's like this. when did we realize that our bata and the armed forces of ukraine are one and the same? that fascism has penetrated to the marrow of bones into all armed the forces that resisted us even now, when realizing that we need a shock fist, well, or in a military shock group, leaving the kiev region. we have liberated at least four

good operational groups and will have a very good one. and the re-operational reserve, then what we lacked. and now you can guess about it as you like, probably no one will ever say. this is quite enough to consistently deal with kharkov with the donbass group. and maybe it will be first odessa or nikolaev well, and so on and so forth, that is, we are talking about ourselves now, you have opened up opportunities for maneuver and successively defeating the enemy in this grouping. therefore, i think that this is exceptionally correct and true at the current stage in my connections. well, just one more question for you. actually, it's not only me and not only me. the question is how many people ask these questions, that after all, when and our troops were here and here, and including me here in this studio, they told me, and this sounded logical. what is the fact that we went in such

a wide scope with the aim, of course, first of all, defeat. that main grouping, then this wide coverage was needed in order to shackle a significant part of the enemy armed forces so that they could not come from anywhere. they were unchained, as now at this stage, and in any way out of kiev towards poltava, the donbass group. it's also a way out into the field. where our aviation dominates. we are in in principle, in fact, the truth, he says, we are waiting for this, the guys would be waiting for you and this is the first second now in kiev an unlimited amount of local territorial defense armed to the teeth with the lack of a single control of this entire system that shoots themselves with them, what should they do now ? they need to be fed and watered. somehow, well, it's clear, that's it, it's a

mental hospital somehow. in general, just a mental hospital so it's a pretty colossal lunatic asylum. that's why i don't see it here. now is a great opportunity to get out of kiev to help to someone there in the donbass or said, damn it, it was very important for me. i mean, uh again. it is important for me to understand this issue. that is, you are talking about the fact that the capabilities of the armed unit of ukraine are here, which are now here. you do not see the possibility that they will be relocated there and will participate. it would be good, that's good, so that they come out of kiev because you have them because we will see them immediately to the young it's and what is february? sorry you could do it. they left kyiv to help relatively speaking, we bombed them in kharkov, and how did the situation change, because you say, yes? well, i agree, but the twenty- fourth of february was like that. february 24 was a

little, apparently, a different logic. let's agree now and to the end in the air, about which we are talking. you understand that there was air defense there was aviation. it is now in detail now . at this stage, we do not forget that almost all the main fuel depots have been hit, that ukraine is currently sitting without fuel. i am waiting. when in principle, we will stop the main highway. it i don’t think it will be long, it remains to wait until all the main bridges are up. well, they will be somehow soft, let's say spoiled. so, in principle, it is clear that the railway from here, in my opinion, to pavlograd still exists and is transferred, and the unit is by rail. they might live until the morning. maybe it won't be anymore, that is. maybe time will not show, but one replica of a civilian check for your military conversation. here are a-a military experts. i just want to say maxim. here's the one that says well

here we are missing. there is not enough power there. why did we climb? let's backtrack, that's the point. that's what's political. and i said so. oh, yes, you said so maxim when you said that why are we doing this, when we could just like that no, we couldn’t politically, it was decided by the head of state that conscripts were not used in this operation, if conscripts were used, we would were now already there, from where to where we will have to go, but only a professional army of contract soldiers is used, and i want you to to say that for our russian society is extremely. it is important, recalling the experience of the two chechen wars, recalling the reaction that mothers had and which is natural for any society. i think we should all say thank you to the president and support those soldiers who are professionally fighting in ukraine today, just like we were then. we will reach the nearest

position exactly, so maxim is of little use to us and, in principle, how do you like someone who is a professional, just exactly this, if it is not clear and only explained seconds without limit said that why are we not in the wrong place. he said that if pyotr olegovich had been announced, it seems to me that he simply said not quite right about the conscripts. i think he meant the announcement of mobilization, because among the people who could not be called up, but to mobilize there are people who held their hands in the hands of a machine gun and can do a lot of things. and if mobilization was announced, i say pyotr olegovich, then the people who are now in civilian life, and who now have the opportunity to sit and watch all this on tv could and should have been called in this situation and participate in all this, and we would have a large reserve, says pyotr yes, they took artyom with them to everyone and think where it is necessary and to those who ask these fair ones. questions, not understanding all this

totality, pyotr olegovich recalls that ukraine currently has a mobilization system. and they grab everyone there. who served, who did not serve, put in their hands, the same machine gun and two magazines of cartridges and sends let it be cannon fodder, but you forgive me cannon meat. it, too, sometimes so to speak, well, plays a role and knows how to shoot at least. and most importantly, we must not forget that in ukraine up to 600,000 people have gone through these 8 years, who are called up and who are there. therefore, this is the story you ask fair questions, but you need to hear fair answers to them that the lack of mobilization today is for the russian federation, this is partly both a question and a price that this is happening more. what could be someone wanted and perhaps with those maneuvers. with those maneuvers that may seem to someone, well , some, let alone how it all is actually drawn on those cards that hang in those

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operational reserve being created, which i think in a few days, well, we will all see how events begin to unfold. actually, that's why we will now talk with a war correspondent, georgy medvedev, who is located right there in the donbas georgy good afternoon. how do you hear us? here, in fact, you are an experienced person. it's not the first time we've been talking to you. here is everything that you know you consider it necessary to tell us about the situation, please, we are listening to you. yes good evening thank you for this opportunity, but first of all, first of all, i would probably like to note that to refute the rumors that are now very actively spreading. first of all, with the support of ukrainian propaganda that supposedly this is the retreat something else is not yet defeated by russia, this is by no means the case, but other tasks have appeared that need to be addressed in the first place. and here, of course, attention. everything towards donbass we see that a special operation has been going on for a month, but those groups

ukrainian nazis such as azov and others, and did not accept the proposal, let's say, that they made a cessation of hostilities, on the contrary, only efforts and shelling, but there are cities like donetsk, innovative gorlovka and smaller settlements, so now the issues of solution the fate of the grouping of the ukrainian army precisely. eating in the donbass is paramount, because here it is, of course, the most numerous, the most well-armed, and prepared because the ukrainian army has been guided by the names of the donbass for 8 years it was here that all this force was driven here, and therefore, of course, hmm, the main issue will be resolved here, and immediately after it is completely liberated, mariupol will be cleared out and a full-scale operation will begin throughout the donbas. i don't presume. what format will it be