deputy, and if, respectively, china will, according to the americans, participate in trade operations, which they will consider as a violation of sanctions, respectively, china can also fall under these sanctions, and then a lot of interesting things will also begin, taking into account the fact that they used to build a global a world where everyone seemed to be dependent on each other and it was believed that this was the basis of, uh, this very security. by the way, this concept also applied to our relations with the europeans. we trade energy resources with europe. they depend on us. we depend from their money, everything seems to be logical. now we see that e the european union, despite the obvious. uh, the obvious consequences for their economies continue to surprisingly continue to uh, continue to uh, destroy cooperation in all actual areas. well, you know, now we will probably talk about the fifth package of sanctions. uh, as you know, uh, only holds in american. their bonds are over a trillion dollars

as well. he, of course, also asks questions, probably now, as it were, whether it is right to continue this policy. yes, we also discussed the topic that began de dollarization of a difficult process, but i repeat once again, no country has begun. can't stay now. aside. this also applies to india in the middle east, uh, everyone is well aware that this conflict will affect everyone to one degree or another, look. that's just in time to what you started with, that blinkin really said this, and we are talking about this, that we are talking about the fact that the outcome, and the development of events here and well, in some wider context. i don’t know where some new world order will be, but you and i remember that the same the yalta system that you mentioned was formed as a result. a war in which one group of countries defeated another group of countries and the

place that certain countries occupied in this system of the world, but was determined in many respects by which group of countries they belonged to or how neutral their neutrality was, and so on and so forth similar. today we see, according to stoltenberg, that no one will be left on the sidelines, and therefore the talk is that nato will go out to asian countries, and so on. and now they brought me a very interesting story, which is exactly in our conversation about how this story is not about ukraine, but ukraine is just some kind of tool, a master key, which they are trying to completely hack and change this world order. either as a result of the conflict, or as a result of something else , look how interesting, it means that at that very security council, he spoke, er, the president. as for ukraine, zelensky, who, what do you think, proposed to the un security council the president of a country that waged a war for 8 years, which

to say, vot nu is in many ways a participant in what is happening here and the culprit is quoting him verbatim. now the president of ukraine is speaking we need a decision from the un security council aimed at restoring peace in ukraine if you do not know how to make such a decision, then you can do two things to exclude russia as an aggressor and a source of war so that she cannot block a decision regarding her aggression war, because russia, in the order we are talking about, has the right to veto and he understands this zelensky says to reform the security system or, if there is no other option, alternative attention, then you should all dissolve yourself. the president of ukraine says he is the security council. and we have already discussed that he is not the president of ukraine and this is not ukraine at all. as a matter of fact, the tool of some group of countries or some world forces that want to break this order and, in fact, ukraine is

a master key, the question now is, will they still try to dunk it with a master key somehow crack or break. that is, it is still some kind of attempt to reach an agreement. with such pressure and so on, or still, without a war, there is no way without a big war, as long as it goes according to the most severe scenario. clear. that what zelensky says is not something he comes up with himself, but ideas about excluding russia from the permanent members of the security council, he has been blabbing out by the americans lately . they became more frequent uh, these uh, proposals. and zelensky is simply repeating what has already been said. you can say its owners americans. he doesn't say something so bold that they don't get it in washington. he just repeats. he is actually a talking master key in

his hands. well, some strength. i don’t know if they are americans or if they are some kind of people, i won’t argue now who? well, you are asking yourself the question. will it go according to the negotiation scenario, and you yourself believe in the negotiations that they are now i don't know, i don't understand anything about it. you are an expert, do not dissemble, please, the majority. here standing believe that and watching this program believes that in in the near future, the negotiations will not bring any result, especially the negotiations with zelensky. and this means that it will be tough, that it will be tough, but at the same time, there is no need to flatter yourself that this conflict, it seems, has become a trigger , on which they clicked on and now everyone has begun to work out the new world order. this is not true. and the statements that general miles makes in analytics are serious, they sounded 3 years ago 4 years ago in american analytics. yes, and we have many repeated. eh, what is the world conflict. she

is growing. there will be more unexpected events, so- called black swans by analysts . and there will be much less time to respond to this, and everyone will be in such a stressful situation. this is not the beginning. this continuation is just a sign of a symptom of the continuation, uh, and it's not just about what happens here, not random, blinkin stoltenberg. they all talk about china, and there is also north korea, and there is also iran, there are a lot of conflict points, which, well, not yet are settled through negotiations through peaceful approaches, and in america they understand this very well and, uh, here they are trying to dump it. eh, everything. what is happening here is by no means so, of course, literally. uh, now, uh, the republicans in america have an example related to the american economy, and

the republicans criticize biden for talking about rising inflation in america, blaming everything on putin in ukraine, yes, that inflation in america is approaching 8 %, and molvin is to blame, russia blame putin and the republicans rightly, say biden, when you came to power, inflation was 3% before this conflict began. it was already 7%. so why are you blaming everything on russia, and in international politics the world has been approaching this for a long time already. well , look, they are trying. you are saying that the world has been approaching for a long time. it's just that now it's a transition to, uh, a higher level, but look, some kind of development is in progress. well, i don't know conditionally. diseases first have symptoms, then the symptoms become larger, then some already appear. well, such more more severe symptoms, but somewhere there comes a moment when, well, it is quite obvious that the

person will not recover. that is, in this sense, the conversation, of course, is not about ukraine, but about something, we have already crossed the line beyond which recovery is impossible. and it’s just that through everything you said several times you didn’t reach the brink, and then explain to me when he said that everything would go on hard, and we hadn’t reached the brink yet. how do you understand the line and what it is? everything will go according to the rigid americans. with all their might they want to make the conflict protracted. and we have said many times that the goal is to weaken russia, which is in biden's imagination. it 's a trap a trap for the kremlin a trap for putin growing economic problems in america in most e in the countries of the european zone. they themselves are not social problems, and now they cannot solve exports, new military conflicts and the strengthening of already existing local ones. and these proxies do not exist today, there is no guarantee that there will be any

local conflict. now will not grow into something more, and then even more terrible scenarios begin. oh and here. in fact, that's why we started with the words of a mile, what are these terrible scenarios? as i understand it already, well, it becomes somehow more tangible, although on the other hand , at the same time, and those people who calculate these scenarios and think, for example, the pentagon the pentagon who looking at china and saying, and you hear that mile says that there is a possible conflict with the great power. see what the pentagon says. china continues to develop its strategic nuclear forces, while their intent to use these forces is clear, the recent tests of hypersonic weapons launched by an intercontinental ballistic missile are just one example of such growing capabilities. china is also expanding its plutonium production and enrichment capabilities. this could allow beijing

to increase its nuclear arsenal to 700 warheads by 2027. china most likely intends to have at least 1,000 nuclear warheads by 2030. that is, on the one hand , everyone does not exclude tough scenarios, but p. the other side. everyone is already looking askance at china well, understanding what russia has and thinking, but here we are with you when we talk about the yalta potsdam system. we are still talking about the first world war, the second world war, as ways to overcome the urgent contradictions of the world. but in the old coordinate system, when armies converge, when bombers fly, there are tanks, guns, missiles, and so on, but now we have absolutely other story. and this brings us to the question. still, it may be that china has it all. we have it americans. this gives some greater chance to negotiate, by the way, people

who talk about this in america have remained the same. here's a former us ambassador to the soviet union wearing broomsticks. here they are trying to pick this muchichi, what can you say about the butch, he says guys, well, it's not about the torture. what's the matter? what's the matter? in my opinion, the most important goal now is to end the conflict in ukraine, and this can only be achieved through diplomacy. i have to kill you. now let's discuss what happened in the bucha. according to zelensky, it is difficult to lead. at least some negotiations with russia after what you saw and you think that the conflict can be ended diplomatically, firstly, we don’t know exactly what really happened in the bucha, and secondly, there is no evidence that this is to blame moscow the fact is that the ukrainians need to make a deal with russia so that it could keep crimea for itself, where the majority of the population is russian and where their naval base is located, because the creation of a nuclear power from russia equivalent to the united states of a pariah country is definitely not in our interests. now look, in fact

, this dialogue is very old, but apparently quite, being in the mind of a metlac. and this one here means, the host with crazy eyes, the host of cnn, which is all soaked. here, for the sake of which butch is arranged, he is also a very indicator from the point of view. well what's going on now the world, in general, when she is here, so wait after such negotiations. what can be discussed? he says, no, no, only with negotiations, baby, and the baby is already talking about negotiations and not that he cannot hear. she cannot be heard during negotiations. her job is to make sure they don't exist. he returns her to this in this sense, your idea that the world now still consists more of these, it means crazy, uh, forces that represent, this is the leading sienna or still metlaka in such collective thinking and real enough. but nu and matlock, frankly, does not offer us any normal way out. but what is there to talk about the question of the crimea

or something, we should not? we are talking about the fact that, of course, our conflict today is of a global nature; there was no such conflict after 1945 of the year, of course, it has not yet passed into that phase; a direct clash between russia, nato and other forces, of course, has not yet happened from the most difficult , but we have a global conflict with you, in which ukraine is one of the plans for this conflict. for us it is a matter of restoring sovereignty to the territories previously torn away from russia, the territories of which were created from former russian people, who, all of ethical russian origin, created this neo-nazi, well, actually satanic state, which literally by these methods in says, because there is not a single military a crime that ukraine would not have committed, but in this

conflict, not a single one exists, and on the other hand, it goes on, of course. what is ukraine ukraine is a tool in the hands. here are the very forces. why, in order to hack into russia or with the help of an external military threat? that is why ukraine was armed. that is why biolaboratories were built there. that is why tactical nuclear weapons should have been deployed there this summer. we must not forget this either. or if russia, in this case, in the conditions of such a conflict, suddenly follows the lead of the peace party, the so-called party of surrender, which we also have in our domestic politics, then in this case, uh, then this conflict will be used to crack the internal russian internal political situation, and then the united states will also win, because they need to finish off russia, which today stands as an outpost

for protecting the rest of the world. these very forces, and why does he need china, because the whale naturally has its own interests in confronting the united states, but china considers russia as a strategic rear ; london is understandable. and then the blow will be struck china on the other side. therefore, while russia is an outpost. while russia is ready to bring. the war is up to a decisive victory and what is a decisive victory yes, this is not just victory in one battle that is coming, but this, but must be carried out. what do you understand the demilitarization of a demilimeter, demilitarization is not shooting ukrainian tanks. understand, because today you will kill these tanks , well, tomorrow the west will bring other weapons as long as the ukrainian state exists. it cannot exist outside of this neo-nazi

paradigms, as long as there is, uh, an army that can, yes, of course, yes, that’s why it needs to be finished, briefly, yes, a broomstick to even before 2014 and after 2014. uh, in general, before and after crimea, i repeatedly warned do not expand nato to the east. do not provoke russia , this is one of the professionals in the american and now there are many. e, who, like kissinger, offered not to provoke moscow, but the fact is that this voice of reason is now barely audible in washington, there are almost no such professionals left. here's the question is it heard somewhere at all. but it's like in such cases, they say, overseas is not mainstream. this is not the main current of thought. and even more so, this is not the line of official power. and this must be understood. yes , of course, my statements can be critical,

we hear not only from matlak. we hear from the channels focus-nius, which is a political opponent of the current administration in the united states, we hear , uh, all kinds of criticism from donald trump for his own reasons, like fox yes, for his own reasons, but i would say trump’s criticism comes down to the fact that i would be different and it would be better to fight russia and not like you, uh, hurting yourself. that is, it is not just consent with our actions. it's simple. an attempt to offer oneself to the voter. as the best. in this case, the executor of the national interests of america i am generally uh, we are all adults. i think we understand that fairy tales should be taken seriously. there are helmets of the cold war - this is a series about james bohn, if you remember, it was such a dissident, that is, created by an unofficial group, and in defiance of the official group. never say never uh-huh where once again sean

connery played james bond there is such a game they sat with the main villain and played for dominance over the world. so, in fact, a lot in american politics is connected primarily with the struggle to maintain its dominance over the world of timonia, everything that happens in the big plan is not in ukraine, but. in principle, it fits into the theory and practice of preventive conflict, which should prevent the growth of a competitor competitors growing competitors. this is china china, in conjunction with russia, is a competitor, especially dangerous, because china, with its economic power, russia, with its nuclear arsenal and military relations capabilities. this is a very bad combination for the united states . and so, uh, using the conflict and the situation in ukraine, as a first step, it is necessary to teach

russia a lesson to weaken russia to create problems for russia, how far are these problems? they see and can go here you can argue. they have already spoken several times about the fact that putin is there should be dismissed, and so on, then they denied it, and so on, and in the case, by the way, with this topic of membership in the un or in the security council. zelensky can voice it himself. he's not so stupid, he feels feels, but he wasn't the first one to really start all sorts of things, political scientists, peripheral structures, and so on and so forth. in fact, the issue for the united states is far from clear, because any attempt to destroy the un charter can backfire on the united states itself and i don't think they have the final decision has now matured, but the fact that they are there in this way, including using

zelensky’s speech, will frighten and threaten is absolutely true. so i just wanted to say about her about this overtone window and say something that turned out to be impossible yesterday. it is necessary to gradually accustom the thought that this is not just possible at all, but it should be, it’s clear that’s the whole story, and now we’ll break for a short advertisement, and then we’ll look at these clearly brewing, as it were, consolidating contradictions, just from the point vision. eh, the economy, since everything is so on the front, too. interesting, stay tuned. one of the best films about the war is coming heavy, what is the siege of the old partisans know? okay, mom, well, still blow. and i that it

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, the premiere on saturday on first will continue to work live on the well-known phrase that politics is a continuation of the economy, and by other means, and also, like the economy, it is a continuation of politics by other means and war - this is a continuation of all this by others, that is, all this is absolutely intertwined with each other. that is why, but in general, our talk is about a political or possible military-political confrontation. they are absolutely intertwined with what is happening in the economic sphere. and where, until recently , it was considered, well, as it were, this is the same here, the global economy. she is separate from all this . she is not separate. this was very clearly manifested with the start of a special military operation, because everything that they started, but to do western, so to speak, our e are not partners. this

suggests that all this talk about the existence of some economic rules is common. for all. all this has also sunk into oblivion, along with this political world order, today president of the russian federation vladimir putin reacted to this on this occasion. i think this is very significant for the degree of discussion of these issues, please. i repeat, the situation. here, the energy sector is deteriorating as a result of non-market brute measures, including administrative pressure on our company gazprom in some european countries, we are seeing our partners another attempt to shift their own mistakes in the field of energy economics to russia and solve the questions and problems that arise in this regard. again , our account is moreover, we are already hearing the statement of officials of the possible nationalization of some of our assets. well, we will go far, let

no one forget that this is a double-edged weapon. double-edged sword and when the president talks about that, so to speak, everything is already. well, it's out of bounds. this is a clear indicator for you, which means that the un security council is now discussing the incident in bucha. and our representative says that there are clearly a lot of questions and, well, there is, in general, something to discuss and, as it were, a solution. well, there is not any yet, but ursula von derain is already announcing tomorrow. that is, it does not matter at all whether something was or was not. something in the bush. she already declares that in connection with what happened in the bucha. what happened in butche? nobody knows what happened? what difference does it make the fifth package of sanctions in connection with gucci speaks of solo vonderlein. we will, so to speak, introduce here. and what is this fifth, and the package of sanctions to the question that the president said

not only about energy, he said that all this goes beyond any, uh, framework. everything, it is already very complex and tough. well, listen, the fifth package of sanctions includes. first, we are implementing a ban on the import of coal from russia; second, a complete ban on transactions with four key russian banks, third ban on russian ships and ships operated by russia to enter eu ports and a ban on the activities of russian and belarusian transport companies . the fifth ban on the import of russian goods in the amount of 5.5 billion euros, the sixth ban on the participation of russian companies in public procurement in the european union and the exclusion of any financial support for russian state bodies. well, here you can turn. for example, i pay attention, for example on the third point about the ban on russian ships and ships that exploit russia to enter eu ports and the ban on the activities of russian and belarusian

transport companies, i immediately remember that we have, for example, such an exclave of the kaliningrad region is called, in which, in general, a lot is delivered just by transport companies. and it already smacks of a transport blockade of our ex-head. is it possible to pay attention to something else, what is my question and why did i mention about kaliningrad and about transport companies, in your opinion. this is rhetoric. it's still something. let it be tough. let there be impudent economic pressure in some places, or this is already economic policy. such is the pre-war period or such a paramilitary character. that is, is it still the economy or is it already something else, but you yourself started by dividing the economy and politics is impossible for you in the modern world, but really the european union, uh, raises the degree and in fact we are already talking, well almost a

complete rupture of economic, well, which means unconditional political relations, and you see that the fifth package of sanctions, it is also accompanied by a significant deterioration, and in the political sphere, the embassy is already beginning to be closed. that is, in this regard, along with the rupture of economic relations, the dismantling of the entire political infrastructure is going on, and we are further and further. further and further , uh, we go deeper, uh, into the conflict with the european union . the european union, respectively, is fair. you say that there have already been immediately statements that everything is clear, there the package was ready literally in uh, 2-3 days. that is, it is quite lightning-fast, one might say, terms. yes , this is understandable, which means, uh, at the same time, uh, these sanctions, which are announced in the fifth package, are quite serious for the european union itself.