prorubezhnaya, and then tell me, what is the fate of this terrible cloud, as i understand it, thank god, no one was hurt or it’s too early to draw conclusions, please, draw conclusions right away, so it’s too early to draw conclusions, because now the ministry of emergency situations works directly with me i can say that it works in this area today. hey minister. e, of the lugansk people's republic of the ministry of emergencies, he himself went to the place himself in order to get to know the whole situation, so to speak, to us , e, the first information was received, then that e is glory god, there were very few people in this area. that's where the cloud went, since this is the frontline prefrontal zone and people from this zone were evacuated. uh, so fortunately big sacrifices. in any case, we managed to avoid it, but we should also not forget that there are settlements there that are close to them. access is difficult, this is the

first and second time there is going to be a large-scale war, that is, shelling from the ukrainian side is carried out on a regular basis now, uh, the minister will work in this area and it will be in the late afternoon, uh, known information it is on this incident with regards to the humanitarian component in the settlement of the frontier. it is critical for several days, we could not even deliver, neither water nor bread , because this is the road of life, along which all humanitarian goods are delivered, from which people are taken out. she was just shooting purposefully. i mean, uh, they were just plowing up the road where the cars were driving. well, we are still trying to do something to evacuate. anyway. we already have a huge number of evacuated people a lot of saved lives. uh, now they find people in others. to vologda, those places where we have already

vacated the houses and systematically bring them first to a safe place, more or less a relatively safe place in the boundary after we take them to the village of varvarovka , so to speak, zones, and under everything under what is still control, you can already somehow unequivocally say exactly frontier such as to say, we all learned that this name was not known to everyone before, but in connection with this chemical provocation, everyone found out about it , looked at the maps, studied where it is and therefore now. well, naturally, we are interested in the fate of this settlement. uh, if we take for the population, then most of it is in the controlled territory of the lc, since we, uh, let's say, are liberating now. densely populated areas are where multi-storey

buildings now have pockets of enemy resistance in e. let's say in the private sector. uh, given settlements and industrial zones, which, by the way, are also quite a lot there, since this industrial city. there were many enterprises that produced dangerous ones. e. well, let's say, uh, there were dangerous industries, including this plant, which produced explosives for coal, the mining industry, i understand. and why control the last question? let's take control. now i understand correctly that it was the zarya factory. yes, where this explosion occurred, and from the acid tank, that's under more than subordinate control. actually. this is a factory, respectively, all other tanks and cisterns that confidently still remain there. this factory is under the control of the armed formations of ukraine and to be more precise, the ukrainian nationalist battalions, since according to our information the armed formations of ukraine they clashed

very strongly with the so-called ukrainian radicals and therefore it was decided by the ukrainian command to withdraw the armed formation of ukraine and leave only one radicals and nazis so now the data plant is under their control. uh, moreover, i want to say that everything that is there could be safely removed from this enterprise, but uh, the radicals uh, deliberately undermined the railway tracks so that they could not withdraw, that is, they are already going there now. e squabbles among themselves. uh, normal, adequate ones tried to withdraw these tanks, and the ukrainian militants blew up the paths so that they couldn’t. well, such is the situation there at this plant, understandably, in general, tense with one word. as you said, thank you very much andrey vitalievich andrey marochka. here we are in direct contact with the lieutenant colonel of the people's militia of the lpr about

people in the pre-front and front zones. e, adviser to the head of the president of ukraine oleksii arrestovich, tried to explain why people from the east of ukraine were not evacuated on time, but the result was not an explanation, but a confession that the ukrainian authorities deliberately kept people as human shields. it was about possible to announce to ukraine that russia would definitely attack when we certainly knew about this, because a mass exodus of refugees would begin, and they would clog all the roads. it would be 10-12 million people, and the army would not have entered the regions, you understand? yes, this is a complete paralysis of the roads, this is a very important moment for the russian ministry of defense in such a situation. we would have lost the war and the entire left bank, because 50 bridges would have crossed the banks on the left to the right. in ukraine, everything would be crammed, the only way out with tanks is to crush citizens and shoot them in order to pass through the bridges. and this is the question. what decision to make to remain silent or paralyze ukraine and be left without the left-bank

part in all scenarios that we discussed with advisers. we would not have dragged out the war if we had been told that it would begin soon. and now listen to the video message of the mayor of kharkov to the residents of the city with a request not even with a request, but with a demand not to evacuate, but to stay in the city. dear ones, today it has been reported in the media that the kharkiv region is preparing for evacuation. i want to clarify, this concerns the lazovsky and barvenkovsky districts in the kharkiv region, where our military is waiting exacerbation in the military situation. i said yesterday, and i will repeat today, kharkov is well armed and ready. to the defense of the city the need for a centralized

evacuation. neither the military- civilian administration sees from kharkov. not the military, not me, like the kharkiv mayor, dear kharkovites, it's understandable, right? here is such a one, that is, well, judging by what we just looked at, yes and here is an arrestovich, a sincere confession and this is an appeal from the mayor of kharkov well, that is, this is vasilyevich’s tactic, this is a well-thought-out cynical tactic tactic don't go anywhere. now let 's defend. it's a terrible tactic. here is this person for me, especially bitter. and it's hard to listen, because all this time i have a sister in kharkov and her husband, her husband, recently underwent heart surgery. well, four shunts are fresh, and they live in the subway and release them into a cold apartment that isn't there. who can not communicate in this apartment for one hour after curfew in the morning and the last 2 weeks of communication. i don't have them. well, first of all, there is no

connection, because it somehow fails, and secondly, information has passed that they are also looking at mobile phones, and all communication channels will be monitored and even just how they look at a mobile phone. and you and i just know that we talked about it on the air of our program and other programs, that among our prisoners was a grandfather of seventy-one years old, sick, with diabetes, who was thrown into these walls just because he was walking down the street. and just like that, i read russian news on my smartphone. he did not comment on them in any way, he did not distribute them. he just read them on his smartphone, he was thrown and they began to beat the situation there, the most difficult, of course , they made of their people. just hostages, that's for sure. and these are his such veiled words. they are veiled. i don't know for whom. there are no such people of any category , he frankly admits that he leaves his people in a city of many millions as hostages of this

difficult situation. you are looking. pay attention. come on, here, anatoly alexandrovich and i are like professionals. yes, excuse me. he obviously does not say these words from himself. he look as he comes out of his eyes he reads, he reads a pre-prepared text, which we see sent, yes, there are no respected experts. this is also visible. this is clear. yes. and when you say no like this, well, okay, maybe we , maybe he wrote to himself so as not to stray, maybe they wrote to him, but, but as if there was no text itself, the text itself with which he is trying to perform. he is absolutely the same as vasily yuryevich says, so to speak, these are hostages. these are hostages. guys. we need to defend ourselves through a pause with our teeth. and who else that's why they don't are their people, ukrainians are not. here are his people. they are everything to him. the material there is things, hostages, human shields, whatever you like, they don’t treat their people like that. even if kharkiv is

such a military fortress, a conditional sparta that no one will take anyway if it starts, the hostilities in the city are always evacuated civilians, because they will suffer from these hostilities, and he says, everyone should remain a task, as he introduced himself to the mayor, just as much as possible as much as possible no, i understand, here is sparta , yes, that is, there could be another scenario, he could call and would have to call, in theory it would be beautiful media scenario should have called, uh, residents and evacuated. and the residents should say, no, we stay in sparta and so on, please , excellent, excellent college. today, there is also an information war going on, an excellent media scenario, but no, he preferred a different one, so that you never know, and suddenly it doesn’t grow together, so no comrade. actually. that's what he is now it also speaks in opposition to what we are doing now in the liberated territories, zaporozhye and kherson this is the best tool, where are the nazis, when the ukrainian population sees how its so-called leaders, er,

appointed by kiev, treat them and how the russian liberators treat them . we give humanitarian aid. we help. we are all we are not chasing anyone, unless it is someone who is shooting russian soldiers, please, do what you want. you have complete freedom. want to read any news. want to ukrainian news, smartphones. if you want russians , you want nigerians, it doesn't matter. we don't plant for it. and these belong to their citizens. how, well, how to say to non-citizens. so. well, it will be later, it may be now, the effect is relatively small, but later, when new liberation takes place, the territories and the ukrainian population will have the opportunity to freely compare relations. this will work best. maybe i do not agree with such, well, all unambiguous definitions, something for me hates them. it, that is, no matter how the citizen, report to whom i hate, and i will explain. no, it seems to me. you treat them as citizens, as if they were citizens, as if they were your own citizens, but they all have dubious little people , this is what we are too treacherous

for both the mayor and everyone, zelensky and the arrest officer. they also have this understanding that in kharkov and mariupol there are people who are sincere in their souls. there is a huge amount of people who deeply sympathize with russia. they understand, therefore , our people, but the devil knows, they are on some percentage, maybe 30 and maybe 70 unreliable, so you need to check the phone, just in case, you know what's the matter, so you need to check the address book on the phone. i also heard about it, you have russian numbers there. so, here he is one of those very unreliable ones. i say they have the main thing, they have the main question that everyone is beating and pulsing in their heads. each of these figures so how many of these percentages are there about russians 30 or 75 30 or 75 you understand, therefore all these repressions, so to speak, nikolaevich here i am, by the way, here is a good question for us the same . it also concerns us in general. he cares for us, too, one of the main. how many of them there are 30 or 75. and you know, i think that the

system of civil defense that is being created by the government today, uh. e zelensky in the east, east and west, it does not correspond in any way to the humanitarian approach that should be in military conditions, and let's look at the relationship. ah, fighters. uh, vsu or nazbatov, uh to the population, where the most active phase action and uh, in the same kharkov and how is it different? it's just here already. that phase when they are openly protected by the civilian population and everything is done for salvation. e their skins at the expense of people's lives at the expense of their food is a robbery e civilians, and there is only preparation. clearly you are not leaving. you will remain a human shield

and, uh, i agree with that, that this installation is actually coming from kiev and uh, let's see the history of the forty-fifth year even in nazi germany when soviet troops approached to large cities, and east germany, the population was saved by the local authorities, and if, uh, these or those echelons of defense were being prepared, then only the armed forces of the wehrmacht were there. understand imagine the situation. and here they taught them, taught them, and after a short period of historical time in the middle east they acted this way. gill, they were covering up, they were covering up that the experience that he recently studied was related to

isis. and the main thing is that he likes the presidential adviser likes how the most elegant and most effective, and the system of protection, of course, in the meantime, europe has pronounced its own verdict. well , for now, apparently still does not fully understand what it will turn out to be. and what a verdict the european parliament supported by a majority of 413 votes a resolution calling for a complete and immediate embargo on the import of russian energy carriers oil and gas. coal is nuclear fuel. and today, in the state duma , our prime minister mikhail mishustin spoke on the topic of sanctions. let me emphasize that an unprecedented number of sanctions have been used in relation to russia. more than six thousand. let's listen michael 6. such sanctions were not applied, even in the darkest years of the cold war, their goal was to throw us back years or even decades, cut us off from the world, force russia to abandon

promising economic social projects , strike at the standard of living of our people, everything possible is being done to disperse inflation create a shortage of consumer goods, but also ultimately social tensions people's discontent. everything, it was carefully planned and the authors of this strategy expected that the sanctions storm would a few days will destroy our economy their scenario did not come true. our financial system is the circulatory artery of the entire economy has survived. so dmitri has a question for you. here, please, give us back this vote. yes, the resolution, uh, eu sanctions, by the way, pay attention, well, 413 are in favor, but 93 are against. this is what i say. e method. yes, google is not right away, but this is not to say that directly complete unanimity is still under 100 votes against. it

's quite noticeable. the only thing. i don’t understand dmitry when explain to us, firstly, a does this resolution have, so to speak, some kind of status, the binding character of a recommendation uh-huh. that is, it's just a demonstration of cohesion, not cohesion, and so on, the informational components take us advice is selected. they decide there. so they decided, they decided not to decide, because several countries are against with all sorts of countries, most of the countries are against, in fact, everyone else is against anyone. e embargen. can you imagine how much gas barrga, for example, respectively, depending on the economy of 980%. and without it's hard to imagine the end of us hungary was re-elected. she will always be against it. here, therefore, accordingly, this one, as it were, this anchor, cannot be pulled out in any way. there is, since hungary is against it, against which the rest of everyone, who in fact, as it were, may not have gone plus. what is to be understood? that now the whole thing has come to a standstill, they still can’t manage coal normally, by the way, speaking, it will hit germany the most because, accordingly, they still have plus or minus, as it were, 25%.

pay attention to the isolation authority for gas payment in rubles. yes, no one is going to pay gazprom families in rubles; they assume payment in rubles. the fifth solution is collected. here, but orbus is going to pay through gazprom in the same way as all the rest of germany pay, then payment in rubles is also not offered. so the e-e account in gazprom yes , gazprombank itself is translated, respectively, the currency into rubles, so no one violates. all clear. they are, in principle, do not want critically, but some nonsense is fine. it was funny to hear, as it were, but, accordingly, the hungarian company is already on its way subject negotiations. the service will contract for approximately 60 days, but is forty- eight days. it is interesting to supply a ten-year contract, respectively, finland moldova, that is, they agree with the company there, and not with the prime minister, it has some meaning, but i remind you, we have a resolution, for example, on the introduction of restrictions on the compliance of technological relations. moreover, the full and what next, that is, the questions are related to the following, respectively, there is a desire to move the

station company somewhere. so they stumbled specifically like limits. now i began to walk cunningly, that is, what is the point, since it was not possible to do so, but to make raw materials. i remind you that, for example, this year the russian federation will receive an additional $327 billion only due to additional price increases, respectively . this is more than last year by a third. that is, we will get more money raw materials. so , accordingly, we have, as it were, a surplus, a surplus of payments, operations, in short, uh, more currency will come than twice last year. plus or minus. here, that is, how would more be here, because the interpretation of the sanctions paradox no, in fact, prices rose appealed as a result. you understand that no matter how the means like it happens, they could not meet, bury thanks to the economy, they are trying to do financially, the strongest part of finance. now was the fourteenth year. we would now all be walking without money, because we would have a neural connection between the payment system and, accordingly, our own, respectively, financial segments and not our settlement systems. all this would not it was, well, we played this game in the bank of russia or in a

bank, and the northern sea route, for example, if anyone is interested, here, therefore, as if the story is this, because they managed to break the system like this through raw materials, they are starting to break through the finances now to put all banks under the restriction put for what it is strong, measure and so on daughter of the savings bank, which is in vienna so that it is not carried out, respectively, energy payments. then, of course, we have the mkb, the last bank of the so -called, respectively, moscow kittens. they are trying through the financial component, and, moreover , do not squeeze, so in fact the greater effect is further plus everything at the end of this week on responsibility. yes, now the point is that, as it were , now the most problematic part is that they are trying, as it were, to fight with everyone at the same time. this is a big problem. they will now go on saturday to taiwan psaki. here she is singing from japan flying there. as a result, respectively, china will cross, respectively, the middle line. they fly there by planes, there will always be an aggravation and in the result of this exacerbation. they are expanding energy contracts. that is, you need to pick one at a time, and not all together. and this is a big problem. rather appreciated. see what overestimated their strength. here is a look at uh, and listen to one of those very ones somehow. well, there was one

who did not shoot, here is one of those ninety- three deputies who, so to speak, voted against and i of her parliament. here is one from the nineties. or rather, we have one from ireland, which is typical, yes, like, listen. the european solution to the war in ukraine is even more war stockpiling of weapons, militarism, threats of engaging in a financial and economic war against russia, this is exactly what the madness of sanctions looks like never helped end a war crime or achieve a change of power, like a ban on the sale of irish butter in russia will save the lives of ukrainian citizens. what the sanctions helped in is to destroy the economy this time russian citizens pay for it and even more european citizens who are faced with a huge jump in energy prices, inflation and catastrophic decline in living standards. we're just shooting ourselves in the foot. what a passionate irka , please. limits to sanctions pressure, they

exist and exist. ut and in the european economy itself, because the more sanctions against russia, the less cooperation, the more inflation there and the more recession. yes, these processes were gaining momentum even before the current crisis, in part, they attribute their own problems to this crisis. but nevertheless, because of the sanctions comes its own problem. it could be more details, of course. well, here are the diagrams. sorry this. she is the scheme of the described operation y yes, when it is necessary to burn, so to speak, so that everything is missing. yes, this is clearly visible, for example, in the american economy, when biden came to power, inflation was three percent, and now, before the start of the conflict in ukraine, it was already seven and seventy percent. and now it is already eight and something percent, and biden goes out to the people and says, it's not our fault. it's the russians' fault. it is because of them that inflation accelerates in our country, but the american inhabitants

him that he is and is absorbed by you badly. if you feel bad, you even have to think about, uh, who did it to you, to make you feel better, all people think there are no troubles, there are separate financial industrial groups that are quite named on this and the biden will definitely not lose. e from dispersal of inflation. e in america and therefore separate financial-industrial groups. they are clearly cashing in on this arms dealers. these traders are the same american oil and gas producers in a similar situation, but only worse exists in europe, and this speech here shows that there are voices in europe, there are goals who understand that america is simultaneously trying to weaken europe, and that these sanctions, in general, will hit the european economy much more than the economy, but here appears again. there are problems

, a certain circle of people is quite narrow, who benefit from all this, and those who rely on transatlantic cooperation on this pro american lobby. these are the same politicians who, again, want to uh push your head. e responsibility for existing problems on others. we continue to work live, now we are in touch with us from donetsk, our e, permanent military expert, participant of our program ivan konovalov ivan pavlovich hello hello, i know you just came from mariupol, by the way, i’m watching in donetsk good weather is not what it means in moscow, i know you just got out of mariupol. uh, so to speak, to see one of the sbu prisons, if so, please tell us the details. you know uh in

in mariupol, we have come close to that zone of the industrial zone where, a, the azov people are fighting and where, a, the dpr fighters and russian forces are finishing them off. well, yes, indeed. you correctly mentioned that we were in a place of sbu, of course, a symbolic place, because of it. oh, such a fight. uh, seriously, there is actually everything destroyed and almost everything is mined, it is difficult to enter. this is not a prison. and this is, as it were, the main prison, and mariupol, because this is the main building of the sbu, the place, frankly, ominous. well, i think you will see everything in the plot. let's see. those sick prisoners were brought here in special vehicles, as a rule, they were gazelles, you know, these are passenger cargoes in which they made cages at the back, that is, they had their own armored passenger part, and

they drove people. well, actually, like dogs, here, handcuffed to each other in an unprotected part. the car was transferred to the territory of this building, as a rule, it stopped near this porch, such as this porch for everyone with packages in front of their eyes. uh, got into the building when led into the building at the bottom of this building. that is, immediately there are steps, and there is this sad, famous, famous another underground prison hut, in which people who called stir were also sitting on duty. and here in this shooting range. uh, when they came in, as a rule, they were tortured there, because from there we are a political prisoner or me. here i tried me or when i was directly in the archive we heard how in this one. futerya in this room tortured people and men and women indiscriminately. this is the porch he remembers, hundreds of feet political prisoners. uh, not only residents of mariupol were brought here from all over ukraine, but also residents from all over the donetsk region or those who

supported the republic in different areas. why? because here, many employees of the hut from other regions were seconded, and since they allegedly captured political prisoners, then, accordingly, the investigation was carried out here, in this building. this is a cool prison in which, uh, i spent, uh, more than three days. i went through torture, and then they already let me say this legalized. and here, right next to the corner, there is a yellow court, in which a just chose the first measure of restraint for me. uh, 2 months of arrest. it amazed me that in these basements they tortured doctors, teachers, engineers, miners , drivers, because there were actually very few military prisoners among the political prisoners. and they went through military intelligence. but these non-humans , they actually fought with the civilian population of donbass well, yes, in general, of

course, they make an impression, and especially the fact that igor is says a man who, so to speak, knows this he was sitting there firsthand, and he knows there methods of treatment, so to speak, and in general the system of this whole hut. it's scary, of course. but judging by what happened to this building, so to speak, the battles for it were serious, as well as in general in mariupol, what is there in general in mariupol, ivan pavlovich well, at the moment when we were, by the way, there was a battle around this building of the sbu , uh, i don’t know if it was heard from the picture or not, but there is just such a serious cannonade. and not only artillery? yes, not only a mortar, but a shooting battle, that is, people actually go into hand-to-hand combat at some points, therefore, and of course there in this in mariupol i will explain this, it is on the right side, as it were, the city is divided by n. uh,

promzovannyy on two parts. so there is an east side there is a west side. we were this time on the west side and yes, right next to it, the freed district people. eh, at home. rather, they go there for water shopping. and then the shooting starts, that is, everything is mixed. well, you know if this is going to be a movie someday, uh, it 's really going to be hard to convey what 's going on here. it will, of course. uh, only the one who was there, i have in mariupol, only he can do it and the films will be filmed books, will be written and told, and there will be so many documentaries that mother do not grieve. i 'm sure i'm looking at life in donetsk, so to speak, but still getting better. i turned behind ivan pavlovich's conversation with you, and i myself look at the traffic light. it works, then the red light is reset, then there is, the city the city is quietly trying to live like this. the normal center of donetsk is established here. all

services are working, including the e dps, that is, everything , ah, the authorities, i supposed they took it. thank you very much, ivan would have our military expert in direct contact with us from donetsk. thank you sticks, in general, of course, documentaries and videos confirming the completely simply brutal approach, the brutal attitude towards everyone, including our prisoners of war, will be uh, and. we, of course, collect them and will not get anywhere. and we will speak we will show, despite the fact that it’s really difficult to watch, it’s difficult to remember and i want to nightmare about it as soon as possible, but it’s impossible and impossible to forget, but let’s recall the terrible video that e recently appeared on social networks. how our prisoners of war were killed, one man with his hands tied, look.