since the u point was with a cluster charge, remember, donetsk on march 14, tough shots immediately appeared on social networks. here's what happened after the hit. dimka pipes at the station how long will he arrive? we note with joy that our ministry of defense immediately issued a statement and emphasized that this is all a terrible

provocation from ukraine in reality , the russian armed forces did not have any fire missions on april 8 in the city of kramatorsk and did not plan to specifically emphasize tactical missiles. the fragments that were found in the area of ​​the kramatorsk railway station and published by eyewitnesses are used only by the ukrainian armed forces on march 14, 2022, such missiles and point u of the divisional 19th separate missile brigade. vsu a blow was struck in the center of donetsk, as a result of which 17 people were killed on the spot and another 36 civilians were injured. so, let's now we have another statement from the ministry of defense - this is important. i can quote him. now we will only get in touch with yuri ivanovich podlyakok. uh, a military expert journalist. hello yuri ivanovich, i want to quote here, yes, from the statement of another fresh ministry of defense, according to updated data, a strike on the railway station of kramatorsk was inflicted by a missile division of the

ukrainian armed forces and areas of the settlement , dobropolye, 45 km south west of the city. well , then the goal of the kiev regime strike at the station there was a disruption of the mass departure of residents from the city in order to use them as a human shield to defend the position of the apu, as in many other settlements . ukraine end quote. here is a photo you posted. well, actually a map. yes, we showed it promised to contact you. and here we are connecting. i understand correctly that dobropolye and the point that you indicated, yes, uh, this does not contradict each other, and both interpretations do not contradict. please explain. look at the caracat. here is the point of opera class, this is exactly tactical missile, it always flies according to certain rules. that is, it starts for the sake of it. it flies, the fuel is burned out and further along the ballistic trajectory. it falls on the target, and in front of the target itself, the warhead is separated from it from the booster stage. here's what was found on the lawn near the railway station. you are the boost stage, and they fall. moreover, they

always fall according to one clear rule, the booster stage always fall a little closer a little closer to the launch point than they work where they work the head part, respectively, having these two points , you can understand where the racket came from, given that the head part rocket fell in the area of ​​the station. ah, the tail section has been discovered. well , south-west, south-west of this point, then you can draw a line again, make it tolerances to the left to the right, because well, you never know where they saw it for sure. we are not in place, we are measuring. yes, again, there may be some nuances, that is, we can get an approximate area. this is this rocket and taking into account the fact that here i spent my investigation. eh, and taking into account the range. uh, the launch of this rocket is up to 120 km, then this is a minimum of 20, in my opinion, the maximum is up to 120. well, by the way, i assumed that 45 is, uh, rather less than 102, well, closer to the minimum than to the maximum because, the distance from which between the tail and the head is small. and why

the farther e point let them this distance will also be further, respectively. yes, somewhere in the 40-45 km. it may well be the dobropolye region, it roughly gets there plus or minus and, accordingly, others opinions can not be any expert any expert who will really investigate this is a crime. he will come to absolutely such a result and there is no need to demand any proof today. there, for example, there are trajectories from nato headquarters, as zelensky demanded, and any rocket expert will tell you this, any little one. it's only for well stoned completely. from those people who do not want to see the truth, this version, well, it is not false, yes, that is, what dobropolie any expert will say. well, it's important here that, of course, most of the people, but in europe they will definitely stubbornly and not because they are stubborn, but they were so stubborn they were prepared and buchi, which means that they were prepared by an attack on the zaporozhye nuclear power plant and the mariupol drama theater they were stubbed. they became stubborn,

so when they see the next one, i mean to say, that's when it happened, i already told. my phone just started to squeal squeal dignify dignify, because headlines began to fall headlines headlines, and it was everywhere the same thing that the russians hit on to the center with a kromatorsk rocket immediately there in four minutes. probably in five at what happened. so what about stubborn. unfortunately, yes, a kramator, unfortunately, uh, to. unfortunately , everyone is like that in europe now, and for sure statements from europe immediately poured in here. well, you know, that's understandable. rocket expert, among the readers and viewers of our program, there is still a minimum number. okay, it will become obvious and understandable to him. where did the rocket come from, but the means of objective control, they are in the world, such as satellite grouping. there is our, for example, american, suppose. but after all, this is in theory, it should somehow be visible if they saw a storm and some holes there show idiotic, supposedly.

there it was like that. and this is covered up. well, now, this definitely should not have been fixed or not? you understand the problem here, this hole is a stationary point, and not dynamic, and the flight of a rocket lasts only a couple, well, a few minutes , respectively, in order to fix it, you either need to accidentally look at this point or to know that she will fly there, and again, in order to fix how you need to know. well , what is the result, of course, if you want to get the americans, respectively, show the real picture, even they have no reason to understand this here? any forensic scientist will say that there are clear evidence and indirect evidence. yes , uh, the means of objective control are , after all, indirect evidence to some extent, and the obvious one is an examination, technical that is, how would you know, how is the ballistic examination of a bullet? yes from where with what gun? she was done everything . no options to be washed, that's what i told this and there is a kind of examination. no ballistic. otherwise, it cannot be attracted if this person is really an

expert, that is, the rocket flight went from the southwest and did not give more than 120 km, rather less, well, half, than more, 40-45 km is a very real point no options. then it remains to be understood. well, there, why did they do it? there is here, yes answered. they want to make the second mariupol they want to people are not yesterday. remember the message, too, there was a huge mass of people leaving kramatorsk and in no case should they let the women and children of kramatorsk out. they want to hide behind them, hide behind them , like the azov people, and thus fight. they are so understandable, why, firstly, to fight and secondly, to form, of course, a completely understandable specific picture that in the west these very, unfortunately , stoned people will consume and more and more assert themselves in the feeling that russia, of course, this is this is a monster. and why then julia the last question then? well, it’s clear, there in the bucha, the farther, the

more obvious it becomes, so to speak, rather quickly, a provocation made. it sticks out a lot there, there are all sorts of inconsistencies in the ears, and everything and other things, but here, when the dot y arrives when it is written in russian, that is, it just says without without the tricolor portraits of putin with the letter z but there it is written in russian for children. this is what is this? it is they who consider us stupid or those who will watch and read this and marvel at this cruelty them. it will not really worry and no one will pay attention to these little things. why do n't they worry about us so much for us. it is necessary to convince them to convince their population. why will they continue to act in relation to the russian federation in one way or another, because the public opinion of the same europe, for example, it still resists, it does not want to get involved. into what serious enmity with russia openly, in fact? well, even if the cold war americans need to do it, blood from the nose, respectively, such provocations. they will, to unfortunately more and more. i think so, i do

n’t even rule out more than the scale and there was information that they were sent to ukraine. these are the same ill-fated white helmets who were engaged in chemical. so they are provocations in syria with yami, this is very alarming to me. yes, they publish their names , of course, but on the other hand, if their names are published, maybe the routes are published. maybe then this provocation can be stopped, although it is clear that it will be terribly difficult. i understand , thank you very much yuri ivanovich yuri podyako was with we were in direct communication from sevastopol and here, of course, i noticed how europe reacted to what happened in kramatorsk before the information. more what happened to seep, did not have time to act. naturally, no evidence. they didn’t have time to digest it to realize how they immediately sprinkled statements. from whom from the head of european diplomacy , josep barrell and the president of the european council , charles michel, and this is what they said. i strongly

condemn the russian attack this morning on the railway station in kramatorsk in which resulted in dozens of deaths. and many were injured. this is another attempt to block the way for those who want to leave this unjustified war and an attempt. causing human suffering is horrendous to see russia strike one of the main stations used by civilians who are evacuating from the region. russia is only stepping up its attacks our actions the eu is imposing new sanctions against russia and will supply more weapons to ukraine the fifth package of eu sanctions has just been approved it feels like as if they were waiting and waiting for an instant here is such a reaction. by the way, you know what concerns, what concerns barrels. i really want, oddly enough, to stand in solidarity with him barrel, in the second part of his amazing speech i was right, namely to give us barrel and here it is, which means this is another attempt to block the way for those who want to get away from this wrong there. wars are an attempt to

inflict human suffering. this is exactly absolutely exactly well done josep well done indeed. that's who did it is another question, please. with these faces they sit, uh, and now they are discussing this situation, and before that, they were discussing the supply of weapons to ukraine, a new batch of weapons of new types of weapons, and that’s all. it's true. they don't care about him there. believe me, it would not be the essence of people, nor the essence of those who died today at the station. it's all nonsense. yes, for them it is not the most important thing for them. most. the main thing is that despite the victims, despite what is happening in ukraine now and it continued, that is why they are inciting zelensky. that is why they say that all of his the requirements for the supply of weapons will be satisfied by virtue of their ability, and so on, a few details on kramatorsk, which drew attention. means, here you have correctly told messages fell down. yes, anatolia and i also paid such attention to the fact that well, almost temporary varnish, it was minimal. yeah, and there’s something to figure out, but it’s quite possible that individual messages came even before this rocket

fell, that is, you need to look carefully now, because the shaft is huge, moreover, well, listen so competently with a compilation like that. carbon copy yes, these statements, that is, they were prepared before i was convinced of how this blow was dealt to kramatorsk and the text of their statement by zelensky is the only one who made a mistake there? this is our this one. uh, this ukrainian kashpirovsky, damn it, is like an arrest officer who said that you are iskander yes, here they are, of course, they would return in full. yes, that is, right away, moreover, this very arrestovich. said from kander zelen said point o they somehow. well, yes, out of sync out of sync, went full, but what else is here in my opinion. what details are important? look at what's the matter, a rocket. eh, here. eh, i saw many of us on many military operations of the company, how they made inscriptions on certain shells, why is this done? this is done mainly in order to somehow raise your spirit from psychological speech, because when a rocket arrives at the place it bursts, then this inscription you won’t

read it, understand, that is, you won’t read it and, accordingly, a calculation was made for to probably. we say that this is a provocation there. this is not a provocation. this monstrous terrorist attack was, just the same, the calculation was made that this is the middle part of the rocket. yes, and you can immediately distinguish it from an autoscanner, that nothing will remain, that is, it will explode. and then it will definitely be possible to blame russia because they are also not quite ideal there. yes, but they made the inscription for themselves. yes , that's done here in these went. yes, because, because it's too much there. well, what's the difference, which one is there? don't just watch friends. yes now i will finish my thoughts. it's not only. uh, they don't speak ukrainian there, yes, they speak russian there why kramatorsk let's ask ourselves a question, but, firstly, the first moment it was correctly said that there was a large crowd of people. they understood that these people would leave the city announced before. they themselves cashed out were not going to, you yourself, in fact , announced you were leaving. so they understood that it would happen

later, do not forget that kramatorsk is a territory that and the people who live there overwhelmingly support russia's special operation in ukraine that is, these are people who are not subject to all these nazi groups and so on, they are certainly afraid of them, but this territory that supports the actions of the leadership of the lpr and dpr there is such a humpback from their point of view, therefore these people, like mariupol, like us, so we don’t feel sorry for these people in the slightest, we don’t need to build illusions that there, something has sank in someone, that is, it’s understandable . see what it's about. this is me just now while i was sent thoughts into my head, this is an inscription for children. yes, it is written in russian and so on. after all. pay attention to why such inscriptions are written, but you and i we know we saw the same, and when the projectile is sent, i don’t know somewhere in the barrel. yes? this is exactly for this moment, because then it is torn into 1.000 shreds, which is not it. this is the only meaning is to write it for

yourself for yourself for your comrades in order to shoot and so on only at the moment when the projectile is taken apart the barrel, there the players are inserted, i don't know trigger and so on. yes, then i plan that it will burst. and look here. yes, in what an amazing way, this part of it didn’t turn around fell and it was written there for the children, so that all this, that is, as if a letter had been sent. this, of course, is monstrous nonsense, but be that as it may, it would be true in reality. this is much more serious. than you now at first glance, it may seem much more serious, this is one of those very little inconsistencies. e, according to which you can define, so to speak, this is a vile provocation. or is there really some kind of blow, marina evgenievna, please. here, except for the most monstrous inscription for children. yes. we remember that the same point u flew into the center of donetsk, and there, in addition to the inscription, there were these hot cups with striking elements, and i have all the people who live? no, yes, right, well, my friend came to the place she was given in the hand. he was still hot, and

these striking elements. here is a cassette there in the city center. yes, yes, how much and she says, that feeling, as he says, i myself say, well, it was 5 minutes at the bus stop. here. i’ll give you 5 minutes. i wouldn’t have been torn apart before that, text messages were specially sent to people who fled from other territories. yes, they all came and there were women. there were students, there were children. and here's the explosion. and here is the terrible reality of war, and it is obvious. yes , my girlfriend. she says it's okay, she says they're shooting at us, she says it's noisy here. we are being killed for 8 years. we used to say, well, they do it in their own, these arrivals specifically precisely in their people and let's evaluate two different approaches. yes, the approach, when in their own way, when they are famous for mines, stretch marks across mariupol are shot in the back of people who are trying to escape. here is the approach to close behind the back of a living person, a living woman, animals, a child, and the approach of our people, our armies that are saving, which are now in mariupol, for example, are working the most complicated operation simply in a jewelry way for each entrance. for

each house there can be done by other methods. we are all here, well people know you can do it differently. our officer, our commander, accepts for himself the moral choice to save his fighter or let his fighter save more people, and this choice is not worth it to them . and this is the moral choice. unfortunately, the other side doesn’t have the word “completely” this is the most terrible thing. the most terrible of these terrorist attacks will be one more, the second third fifth butch unfortunately, unfortunately, we have to and must repeat that such there will be more bloody provocations than e. the more clearly it will close. here is the one so to speak. e, to a somewhat kramotor boiler, the more such provocations will be. sergey vladimirovich, i'm coming to you. e with a question about what happened,

including as a bearer of a ukrainian surname. today i addressed the ukrainians. i understand now such a situation and such, probably, the mood of people that they do not want to listen to me. maybe someone there will kick the tv and so on, but then when the first emotion comes down, when the mind returns and logic, and people will understand that, of course, that this is a monstrous infernal crime, and against them and against us, this is the most important thing, how do you feel about this, seryozh, do you know, it’s like it’s just like recently we were standing here. yes, we discussed march 14th. do you remember, yes, yes, here we were standing and i remember, the plot is very good here and when the correspondent said that the victim could have been more, but there is something to say, no no no no exploded so how could it to explode, then remember, yes, in fact and here, and then i stood and thought, lord, well, maybe this will not happen again. yes? and now it hasn't even been a month yet. yes, again, the tragedy is greater than the victims, and it would seem well what could be worse,

and what is worse, and the people who do it they are still alive, they still have the potential in their hands to do such things and there is let's say. so the geopolitical roof. this is all in the form. we have just seen the statement of the european union. yes, here, uh, naturally, so to speak, president, biden have already made statements. that is, you understand as in conditions when there is a presumption of guilt of russia yes, absolutely we can shout with you. i don’t know how to tell under a microscope that a rocket is designed like this, that russia doesn’t have these points. yes, that’s why it fell. well, when the presumption of guilt, who will figure it out, who will figure out where they shot from, and you understand some kind of trajectory? yes, no one will understand. look, wait wait, here are the ones. sorry i'm high in a good way in an unfortunate but good way sense of the word stoned europeans. yes, there the presumption of

guilt of russia will already be appointed, and so on. no , they won't take it apart. listen. but, uh, as always with such acts. it is also aimed at us. we should be horrified by ourselves, we should doubt ourselves, you know what's the matter, that's why it's important for us, that's why it's important for us to talk about this with each other for just another minute. i want to say. you know, this is the reason that was said here, but to intimidate the population, so to speak, here, in order not to use it, so to speak, how use it as a human shield - this is only part of part of the reason. so there's another reason, because this has it. e is a classic sign of a tract, because a tract, after all, it also has a loud yet political component, so, as a rule, it is done where there are a lot of people, so that, of course, there is hard meditation. if you look at the history of the terrorist attacks in the middle east in asia over the past twenty decades , some place has always been chosen - the station there or something else, so to speak, there or the airport or well, of course

large. why, to have the maximum number of victims, the maximum amount of blood and the maximum number of publications, then you understand, because in fact, in addition, here are the stories ah-ah. this crime on the land of donbass, after all, there is still the history of brussels, there is the history of washington, which has already burned all the bridges and who need to explain to their voters, their audience, their society, that yes, sanctions can be difficult. you are suffering. you see, what yes, because the moral choice is everything, russia is justification, any sanctions for any actions, any losses, any in general, yes, the story of our military, who were finished off and who somehow began to seep into the press and it was necessary to kill it unambiguously, which i can therefore say about kramatorsk this is one from cities

still occupied by the terrorist group ukraine and a terrorist. when he sees that he has nowhere to go, they begin to kill hostages from their own human shield in the hope that someone from the leadership of the counter-terrorism operations in hope. rescue more hostages. will go to fulfill some of the requirements of this terrorist. let's say he opens a corridor for him to leave. well, according to the world experience in the fight against terrorism, i must warn you of such concessions. hostages are almost never rescued, so it makes sense to enter into negotiations with terrorists only in order to

buy time for better organization of hostilities against them. way they definitely can not be saved. that is why the terrorist uh group. ukraine must be finished off completely in all territories. so far occupied by it. uh-huh from kiev to lvov, and now odessa to chernigov think by the way, think really, if we are dealing with those who commit such provocations. which a similar level of cynicism is acceptable, then there is no other option, except for, uh, victory, except for the complete completion of special operations with all the indicated goals

, even in theory. donbass , the long-suffering people of donbass, they now know all of them did not want to hear them for a long time turned a blind eye to how they live, what they live. i didn’t want to know at all that they exist, but they exist. they are alive and they will live, and our program, together with the four- time world powerlifting champion maryana. naumova organized the project we are alive just the same, and the people of donbass for the people of donbass and for those who did not want to see who sympathizes with them. who understands that this is very important maryana naumova now she went to donbass. she's right there in the middle. she communicates with these people. she asks, and she empathizes, how we are in direct contact with us

maryana hello, where are you? hello everyone. i am now in volnovakha. this is a small town that was recently liberated. now he is under the control of the dpr and he received severe damage, but despite all this. behind me, for example, people stand and receive pensions, and the market works when they come. bath. they even work in the registry offices once a week issue a birth certificate, but i hope that there will be weddings soon. here people are waiting for e-passports, because there is a problem with documents. and the most important news. look here the payphone is working, here people are calling. hello, who are you calling? and where is the sister in donetsk? you see the connection is established. this is the most important thing, you still sometimes have problems somewhere. yes and yesterday we were at the volodarsk temporary accommodation center. there, of course, it is very difficult. see for yourself okay? yes, let's do it. we

arrived at the temporary accommodation center for refugees in the village of volodarskoye. here people register then they wait for filtration here, they live for this time, eat and wait for special documents, according to which they can move on. there are a lot of people here. and over there there is a board with announcements looking for relatives. now let's go see what's there. tell us where you are from, how long have you been here? i'm from mariupol. yesterday we arrived at the house too. our house burned down. this is my mother-in-law's house. we hid in the basement there, too, we sat without water for a whole month. without food and people. they just dropped it. look well homeless around some homeless people. i didn't swim for a month. i haven't washed in a month

head. i'm afraid to take off my hat. it's just some kind of shame. today we moved from mariupol so to speak, in general, why did you think so why? and because the ukrainians are sitting ukrainian snipers and do not shoot directly at the legs , people go. there are so many corpses. you understand, we decided to run across, because even the house was blown up, because the ukrainian military were sitting around the perimeter of our house. we decided to leave. i have a 75-year-old husband and three more children of small neighbors. and this is what we got up for the 5th time and went towards the dpr. and how go to the most important prospekt mira, it is shot through by snipers, and we jumped out like crazy. the branches are there. all our practically say. no, not a single

normal building. this is all extreme, and not everyone was shooting. these cannons moved in places, they fired, they fired. and the fire starts. what are you doing let's draw what can i say? where are you from? how long ago you arrived literally two days ago. now, at what stage are you, what should you do next? now i don’t know anything, we are waiting for my father. i am different now the area she is surrounded by. here are the difficulties we face here. i see the conditions here, of course, but very difficult. hmm, can you tell me

how you are coping, i would not say that they are directly difficult compared to mariupol. it’s very good here, that is, it’s scary to walk the streets in mariupol, everywhere they shoot, everywhere they bomb people , you’re afraid, because you don’t know anything until now, i’ll be slaughtered there, but here it’s calm so who can slaughter people. no, who needs food, who needs some things, a fly, some clothes, there will be such normal, that is, after it is indicated that nothing will happen to you. so, if i haven’t heard such a sound, well, some say that our way of life did indicate that there is such and such you will kill people, there will be nothing former, it’s some kind of former, quite a few also think, that is, the current president of ukraine, that is, she fled fled here in a temporary accommodation center doctors and paramedics, one might say, the most sought-after and respected people. they are trying as best they can, but it is very difficult for everyone, both for

doctors and their patients, i didn’t sit down last night, not for a second, i’m a military doctor, i see medicines have fallen, there are practically no left a large mass of people, and everyone is sick. if you can, somehow somehow you need to help, please help. can tell all this. why we are addressing people with these are the main problems with pressure diabetes mellitus heart attack, specifically not enough so that we can somehow help. we have the most common valerian, the antipyretic citramon, these are the most commonly used drugs in demand, which we have in an ambulance. we don’t have them allocated by the clinic of our central district hospital, but of course they have already ended. this is yours, ours. what is your name? tamara nikolaevna zolotukhina tamara nikolaevna