you can, well, at least then help someone who can , that's actually simple logic, because it quickly became clear to everyone that this is not some kind of temporary phenomenon for half a year or a year. and this is such a large-scale institution that has already been created in the country. if you do, it's seriously long so that for your life and after your life. she continued to work. so you need to take the same long-term economic and financial structure. this is a fund. ah, in russia there was a law on this and it seems to me that it was right decision. if i knew exactly from the date of my death, as if all garbage would stop suffering faster. and probably, by the way, it would still be more time to spend with her husband and children. is absolute honesty useful, absolutely honesty, it is generally inappropriate if i were offered the elixir

of immortality, but i would not drink right away. you know, there are quite a few of these on the internet. or a video, or even just some such texts typed, that what do people want before they die with us, when dad left, six months ago, it was in some moment. all children and grandchildren came from different countries, and he came to his senses. i say, daddy, look, we are all gathered around the bed. there was nothing like that in health, and he opened his eye like that and looked, really the whole bed. we are poked. it was worth it, of course, he was probably scared to leave us all, but he was so pleased that he brought his family together. but people want to be together, probably everything, but no, and

the theme of death inevitably intersects with some of our assumptions about what and what is there, firstly, there are a lot of some funny myths in the hospice, for example, in the first moscow they say a woman lives with us. you know , such a woman has a wide-brimmed hat. here she finds, to be honest, i have never seen this woman, but in the center of palliative medicine, where i now work, some kind of man definitely lives there. he sighs all the time. especially late in the evening, when i'm already sitting on the floor alone in my office. he sighs contagiously. i came out like that, i say, well, at least show just what you sigh i don’t have the strength to listen to these sighs and suckers. i'm not an idiot. and speaking seriously, without these mystical things, it seems to me that those who work in hospices, not only in moscow but in general around the world, but for us the word is to believe in an

afterlife or to believe in god, these are very funny words. we don't have to believe. we know exactly what it is. it just requires absolutely none. well. what does anyone doubt? it's so obvious that these people stay with us, that they support us and help. sorry. i am i remember very well a girl from tajikistan who consoled her mother and said that you were crying. i 'll just come back to you in the stomach. we will be together some time after the death of my mother, i had a dream. once again, i fall asleep tormented her with all sorts of questions. how to do it here, how to do it here, and i had a dream saying, lord, leave me alone let me rest, i'll wake up home, my god, really. she's been gone for several years now. i can start,

finally, solve all these problems myself and stop bothering her. uh, and this is the feeling of knowing. if you ask me what is there, then i am sure me. there are already a lot of loving people waiting there for their parents and grandmother. i hope it's warm and not slushy. and there is a lot of love there, and sveta er, although a quite similar conversation was recently in st. petersburg in the lectures of the open library with alexander sokurov, and we talked together. about death and dying and he talked about sudden death about killing death in the war about how a person goes and explodes and booms and you have an elastic band from your panties, and i listened to him. i realized, lord i never thought about growing up in a family where

there is oncology and long-term dying, and i never thought about death in my life. that's really fortunate in our family. there were no such horrors, but he saw a lot of this. and i understand that for him this is it. but this is quite it's just his nightmare. it hurts terribly. and somehow i would probably be glad, in part, to be retired early. and it ’s definitely calmer to get closer there than here. no, thank you very much, we have for you, you know, two gifts are a gift here are these various feeders, how did you come up with it, and who invented it, and who suggested it to you? this is for your hospice home, i would

say, and this is a gift for you for your family , you know what it is? this video note is how your loved ones see it. these stories can be hung on the refrigerator, for example, and leaving, if they are still sleeping, you can just slander there every day. how do you love your thank you men. it's all available for immediate pickup today. thank you very much. good luck to you. in the early nineties, when everyone around did not live survived, she moved from yerevan to moscow , left alone with three children in her arms, and instead

of asking for help, she herself began to help, those from whom everyone turned away. this fragile and pretty woman with a conservative education, an indisputable authority for homeless teenagers, does not apply when there are no other options, it was the same with the child mowgli viti kozlovtsev, the boy was locked in a room with a dog, his own mother. when a child was found unable to speak, barking and running around on all fours, decided to take more than one, a foster family, and only she was not afraid to take vitya to her, because she believes love and patience work wonders. she organizes brilliant theatrical productions, and every week she makes her rounds of bunkhouses, shelters and train stations in search of those who may need her help.

she has six children of her own, 26 adopted children and 120 of those whose life could have ended if it were not for her help. alone with everyone, the mother of many children, lilith gorely hello, i am very glad that you are here in our studio, so what? here i can with you to get to know each other, in general, i must say that you have some kind of amazing heart, if since childhood you have been a man fighting for justice, because at the age of 16 you wrote a letter to reagan. yes, i fought for the rights of the indians of meditation and, uh, i was very interested in the fate of this people, because i thought that they were very noble and honest. my room looked like a wigwam, and there i was addicted, children. yes, or what? yeah . so that's why you paid attention to this topic? what if the letter got there? well i don't know there was no answer

it wasn’t, but uh, our childhood hobbies, so to speak, or something like that. i don’t know, but the idealized view of the world is one story and a completely different story, when we give in to adulthood and understand that yes, the world is full of injustice, but most often we say that what can i do you moved to moscow in the nineties - this is, in fact, but the most difficult time in our country, well, in our recent history. how did it even occur to you, yes, that homeless children, and which there was then a really incredible amount on the streets of moscow and, in general, all the cities of russia, but they can become exactly your task. you know right from the start. i did not have. that's it, that's my task. i have to do this, and i remember the time when, as a child, i watched a program from the soviet times, like the eyes look at the snacks and wait for the parents, and i

always dreamed that when i ever come to russia, i tried to create such a school , especially for children in orphanages, is music school. and when i arrived, here in moscow, uh, i saw just a huge amount. how do you speak at this time? near each outpost of food, such groups are simply children who ate leftovers. and when we came to moscow and worked at a music school and studied for a long time. this can be said as an activity or a hobby, i continued to work, but at some point we ended up in a camp. and that's where i already met street children it was in the camp. i worked in a musical methodologist parts fell ill, which means that the mentor is the educator there, who was there in their detachment, yes, and i began to replace, and here are our children. they did such things

. i simply did not understand, because due to such e, well, another, as it were, caucasian, one can say upbringing. i didn't understand. that's what it's like to breathe glue. yes, there are drugs and something else, but they just deceived me, as they could say that they glue shoes every day. they had one like that. and i come to the meeting, i say, guys. well , is it really impossible for us to finally have these shoes, uh, or glue or buy a new one? they all laugh and say, well, what are you inventing? what boots? i say, the guys say that they put shoes on you every day. so you know from such funny stories. that's when we started to become very good friends with these guys. they then left. they cried. that's when i left my job, i can say that's professionally, yes, what i'm supposed to do and, uh, went to work with homeless children, and then you began to take the children and

already to your home. and i understand you took children. well, those that many would refuse. well, yes, because i thought that, well, orphanages exist, children go there. here's what to do with these kids. and i would say that such hmm from the side, looking, there is one of nu ver. iceberg, right? this is, of course, a case that happened 10 years ago, when this boy mowgli e was found in podolsk, who until the age of 7 was actually brought up by a dog and a child in the literal sense. uh, this one is not figuratively mowgli. and so to speak, he was not very well trained in human science and so on. why did they contact you exactly? well, because social services. they knew us. and when they contacted us. they said, here is an extraordinary case, in fact it is very difficult. we do not know an orphanage or a psychiatric hospital for such a child . i mean, he doesn't talk. he barks. he runs on all fours, he eats with his tongue. yes

, instead of using a spoonful of instrumentation, but this case should have scared you, it didn’t scare you. don't know we we asked if he bites, they said no. well here we go looked at the child. the first impression was very uh, depressing i.e. when did we bring any items with us? yes, for example, there are toys there, i even took colored pencils. he didn't react to the person at all. he would immediately turn his head and look the other way when you talked to him. and uh, that is, the diagnosis was made of mowgli's syndrome and pseudo-autistic, that is, well, he does not react to the first words that he spoke, for example, we say, see, let's go eat. he says this is on fire, that is, she does not respond to in essence, the logical chain was broken uh-huh but we will return in detail to the history of the retinue, but i think that's what guides you, it seems to you that love can overcome. all i think is, yes,

of course, and love, and in fact i am a believer and my grandmother raised me from childhood. so when you believe very strongly, and he hopes and prays and does not give up, then everything is possible. how did your family treat your parents, and your first husband, uh, from whom you had three children, when they realized that you were going in this direction, what did you look like what, a leave your professional activities and choose a different path of life. well , children, they have always supported me with my son, who is my composer now. yes, he had to go out into the porch, and there there is a trinity on the guitar quietly so that no one would hear it, because it was impossible for us to have such a noise gum there in sleeping bags. everything was in the house, but they never let me down, and your parents are mom,

she was generally a bacteriologist, and you can imagine her shock, then yes, here is my father was the head of the surgical department. yes , in my opinion, she was in charge of the batteryological laboratory, and she simply had a panicky attitude towards all kinds of microbes without these children. she is always in smears and that's it, that is, we wiped the door handles with alcohol. she said, here. if you want an apartment, you first take a pen, and then you go to wash your hands, so she always wiped the handles. and of course, such a panic. she was unimaginable. one day she came to my house. there, on the floor, a child sleeps snoring, and he is all in a rut, and here i am something like that, some medical procedures are done to him, that is, everything is tied, she just called all my relatives. uh, she said our daughter was crazy. save her. it's an unhealthy thing, something's wrong with her head. here are her children. now they will get sick, of course, the children were both lice and lice and everything

that was there, but i want to note that during this time we have never become infected, not by one. these are such unpleasant diseases. that is, i rent an apartment and a child with hepatitis alla of violence and that's it. nobody got sick. well, maybe the lord kept, i don't know well, you and your first spouse broke up when i want to understand how much this activity has influenced your family life. well, i think it did, because he said that you somehow run ahead of the engine. and i have to get off it . he said that i think it's not normal that 3 o'clock in the morning can ring the doorbell. and want something from you. and uh, someone needs to be rescued to go to a construction site somewhere, because someone fell down there and take them to the hospital. here. well, i don't think it's just because of that, because if u people indeed there is love and such a relationship, then because of such things, hardly people

are led. well, listen, it had a strong influence, and literally on your life. that is to say, it's one thing. it happens somewhere at work, and another thing, when it began to enter your house, it can affect some women. this could have stopped, let's say. yes, because it lies on the scales. well, how is my family personal well-being, or well, how many of these homeless children are many , you can’t help everyone, never forgot, my children literally, but they were already part of our family. and even my husband, when e he said what i say, right? well, let's move, well, let's move to another area. i will make such a team, we will all work together. he said, no, you can't, but i tried with all my might, that is, my children went to three schools, blood children. they were also laureates of international competitions. that is, they went swimming, jumping into the water, a music school, and they studied at the gymnasium.

that is, i tried not to leave my home. that is another matter what i do for counting my dream or some other, uh, i don't know. when she arrived in moscow, the number of homeless children on the streets of the city struck her. near each outpost, there were such groups of children who ate leftovers. here's what to do with these children. the first husband could not stand her active help from homeless children and left. he said that i think it's abnormal. you somehow run ahead of the locomotive, and i have to jump off it before i take it, because the gorelovs asked only one question from the kozlovtsev family. we asked, he bites. they said no to the big heart of lilith burnt how old were you when you

were left alone ? well, actually my own life is over, i guess, but i will continue to help. well, it was. i thought so. yes, and were prepared for this, which, well, well done. it happened. well, fate was favorable to you was on your way. i met alexander gorelov who became your spouse. let's listen to him first, and then we'll continue the information that lilith is looking for. your camp on this departure leader, well, maybe 1-2. and with uh the fact is that the next morning i had to go already, well, to anapa well, to make a decision

overnight, i arrived at the station, but they were sitting on the platform smoking, they were pouring water there such slang they had. i thought so, in general, i, as it were, generally cope with them, i look and lilith comes out lilith comes out such a girl on the platform. and when they saw her, they all immediately threw cigarettes. there so once lined up, and so, well, climbed among themselves, it goes once, so and so. well, everyone seemed to start up, and she is so suitable. so, well, now this train will come, where are the others there? yes, they went somewhere else to the tent, and she takes two fingers in her mouth like that, as she whistles and i see everyone ran up there and i immediately thought so. well, yes, with this person you can go the most difficult thing is when, well, the child

does not close. well, like a closed one, and he must somehow be brought out of this state at such moments. i somehow here trust or climbs more. i am don't feel like doing it, to be honest, that's leviticus the hero. difficulty imagining you, a fragile woman with a conservative education, whistled two fingers in her mouth and built everyone. they taught me this for a long time. and how did you manage to achieve such authority among such a difficult, uh, category of teenagers? i do not think about it. it's just that we really were friends, and they didn't want to lose this friendship. well, they listened to me somehow. i don't understand why they hid all this and all their bags. and when i i came, probably, they were just ashamed, because i had no power. yes, so to speak, well, we were just friends very strongly and trusted each

other. that is, these guys who today they feed, the guys at the station, who help the homeless. these are the former homeless children. i can trust them just as much as i trust my children with shelter. and is it possible to say that sooner or later this, well, such an authority not pressing, not uh, not breaking, but still, uh, had some kind of educational. eh, the result is in the sense that sooner or later they left these rather habits. i am actually a very strict woman. i sat about specific things. i never compromise, and they had to leave if they wanted to be with us any longer. they understood it that's even when we had a center. yes, you are a funny story. i, as such an expert, stood in front of the door, and before they entered there, they had to breathe into my nose, then there were no such

devices for an alcoholic, etc. i could even tell how many days ago they were breathing clip. i say no, the second day, you can't come in until it's already 3 days. you weren't breathing, glue. blimey. you will come in, well, or is it just the truth. the fourth day, i say no, the second, i really already, as you know, the dog is so trained. i already understood when someone, how they breathed, what a smell there was, and you conducted some conversations about how dangerously harmful it was, and so on, and they invited psychologists and narcologists and clergymen. they knew it all, but the choice was theirs, back to your wonderful husband. alexander and in which, just like that, he realized that it was possible to go on reconnaissance with you, like how a man came to help the counselors to go with you to replace with such dangerous children. it turned out that you can rely on this fragile woman, which brought you together as a result of the fact that you

can do a common thing. it was, so to speak, the most important thing, what do you look in one direction? well, of course, but i never thought that i could have darkness, a husband, after everything that i went through, because well, my first husband was in general since childhood, that is, we are two less often, but i think that no man would agree to such a, well, crazy, unhealthy woman. yes, i already for myself , er, took my cross, one might say, and decided that it would be like this for the rest of my life, and what happened alexander was persistent? well, we just helped children together for a very long time. there was a period when they were left alone. and when did all this move into my apartment, huh? he lived in the kitchen. i lived in another room. well, you understand, and the matter ended

with the fact that you got married and gave birth to two more children. oh, well, that is, the house was already full of children and their three were growing up, four of them were his son. how do you even manage to deal with this plowshare, step by step , older children, if they are well educated and trained, yes, they help. how many children are now in the house 12 minors, in general, 32 in total passed through your hands, well, our foster children, yes, all together. well, i want to return to the case with viti e. he has been in your family for 10 years. yes , that's what you say. at first it was such a sad picture, but surely you, eh there they consulted with psychologists and read, perhaps, literature on this topic, that children who do not receive this skill before the age of 3, and communication with

people is actually considered to be irreplaceable. and losses. that is, this person will never be normal. in the conventional sense of the word, it didn't scare you. you know a very ambivalent attitude. actually. that's when social services. they really wanted us to take a video , because, well, you know, it's very difficult to arrange such a child. doctors categorically dissuaded they said it was a trauma for all your kids and uh. we decided to move on anyway. it was not only my decision. it was the decision of the children. each of them spoke. here i will play with him in the car. and i'm going to teach him to eat with a spoon and, uh, when all the children decided that yes, they will help, and we have children in difficult situations, but they all liked him, because

they realized that this situation is much worse, what they went through. let's see, just a story about your children and the government, including vitya kozlov was only 7 years old when he first crossed the threshold of the house of the gorelog family. he could not speak, when they tried to wash him wild, he shouted, hid his eyes, and all the time tried to get on all fours. they say that he could not speak at all. well, the dog, that is, sniffed something , licked something, did something else. yes, people said, yes, i gave some sounds. and now he says, even imagine, as it were. well, this means that it can be completed, no matter how long why , even english knows better, now you see 16. he studies at school and dreams of becoming a machinist and treats everyone around. they

look at people with love and understanding. here is such a world of his, somehow he looks a little differently, uh, he does not see anything bad at all. he will always love you. and no matter how it changes. this is where you can learn. it means you don't have a choice. yes, i have a choice. and you choose to love them. yes, mom, vitya was recognized as mentally sane, despite the fact that the child was six years old, she locked him in the apartment with a key and left a bowl on the floor, and have you ever seen her? of course we went there ourselves. why did you have to get along with some things, and i

said, i need to look at her and what impression she made on you. indeed, this is a mentally changed person, such a strange thing. so it seemed to me that there was some kind of impression without an emotional woman, or how you generally have to experience emotions related to the parents of those children who are under your care. well, in particular. if this woman is mentally normal, it is impossible not to condemn her, because what she committed in relation to the child this is a crime, but in general i think that i have no right to condemn anyone, because i am a person. her first pupils are already helping those who are left without a roof over their heads, these guys, who today they feed, and the guys at the station,

who are homeless, who help this one. those former homeless children convinced her that the child mowgli should not be taken into the family by doctors. with categorically dissuaded, they said that this is a trauma for all your children. she doesn't judge anyone . even the mother who left her son in care dogs. i have no right to condemn anyone, because i am a person with a big heart. lilith the burnt. they brought up, in fact, so many different children. you didn’t have disappointments of this kind to say fir-trees-sticks, well, it’s necessary, but a man, it seems that he was treated with such love and tenderness, but he still lost his way like that. well, everything happens, of course, everything happens in life. here is my boy. he has left us.