late there in connection with space history, it is relevant in the light of what you and i are thinking about, what we are talking about and discussing against the backdrop of a special military operation. uh, and in the background. the most important confrontation with the west with nato is actually the cause of which this operation is and in particular. here are some very important things. he said that , which are important for all of us now for understanding our current situation and the prospects for this situation, that the soviet union developed its space program, but in conditions. well as a matter of fact. as such, sanctions were not announced , but in fact, in fact, it was. uh, in general, the country in many ways, relying only on itself in the case of space history, relying only on itself, moreover, the soviet space program and gagarin's satellite and flight are you. just imagine that it was some 15-16 years after the bloody destructive war in which they died. tens of millions of people, under

which most of the country was destroyed, and this is a very important reference for us to this our the past, so to speak, into these space achievements, which are important today in order to remember and not forget that when our country is concentrated, it is mobilized and aimed at solving big problems. we can do a lot, despite the external difficulties that our competitors present to us, who, of course, do not want us to carry out these achievements. and, of course, an indicator that this holiday is taking place in the background. and a special military operation and already completely obvious to anyone, in my opinion, is not concealed confrontation with the west, but also with nato , it turned out that at a press conference at the vostochnaya a cosmodrome, after negotiations with alexander lukashenko, vladimir putin said, but it seems to me, very important words about the course, and

especially this very military operation of her goals and pace, please. as for the operation itself? and i often hear questions. but is it possible, as soon as possible, it depends on the intensity of hostilities, and the intensity of hostilities. unfortunately somehow connected with losses. our task is to achieve all the intended goals, minimizing etitheria, and we will act rhythmically calmly according to the plan that was originally proposed to the states general. i have already spoken about this many times. uh, now there is no need to repeat all this during the press conference, uh, and actions related to certain regions. ukraine were connected only with the fact that to tie up the forces. strike and destroy military infrastructure. to create conditions for more active operations on the territory of donbass, with the aim of

throughout our operation. i want to recall what i said in the early morning of february 24, our goal is to help people living in the donbass, who feel their inseparable connection with russia and who have been subjected to for 8 years and the operation is going according to plan. the operation is going according to plan and , in fact, how it is going according to plan. many people are watching there in the donbass, and war correspondents, one of whom is now a regular participant in our broadcasts. and vlad shurygin will now contact us directly. and here is vlad hi vlad. hey, how can you hear me? great, do you hear? great, do you hear? well, look, but in fact, for the first time, we are talking like this. here in this, in this quality of your presence there in the area, and carrying out the operation, and i think that from the studio. uh, a lot of what you

see one by one there on the spot from what you see and talk to people. well, you and i , so to speak, how to communicate. i know, these conversations, these impressions, probably, a lot of things are seen differently, perceived differently and with from the point of view of the direct conduct of hostilities and from the point of view of the very nature of this operation, so let's talk about all this, but plumply. go. firstly, it must be said right away that the battle for mariupol, in principle, will end here, it must be slightly different. there is the concept of the battle for mariupol, there are separate battles. the battle for mariupol is over. i spent 3 days here in this city. e was practically everywhere. e to the city. e. now there is already a mayor there. a hospital operates there, to which they constantly bring everything that necessary for the treatment of sick wounded, there is an open humanitarian corridor, not corridors, even from the centers and around the city. you can just see people who are

just going about their business, of course, very often mournful. it is very difficult to get water and food there, but the city is already living its own autonomous life. and there are, uh, two districts. they are isolated from the city, they practically cannot influence the city in any way, in addition to the small number of remaining mortars, which are calm and systematic. that's how said the president, as everyone is talking around, who is fighting here is calm and systematically multiplied by zero. uh, i spoke here with absolutely wonderful tank guys from the dpr who have been fighting since the first day of this mariupol battle, which all this huge hell went through here is a tank company, which, uh, started with 10 tanks, then reached two without losing not a single person, and some females simply knocked out two or three times. now she is back in full force and these guys. they said one interesting thing. and

you know what the meaning of what is happening here says. i say, well, i asked, of course, what he says, because here is born, the most iron guard in general, which only exist now in the world. and we are destroying what we could have we are alive here, and we are winning, and there are fewer of them every day and they say they will not leave here, not a single one alive we are trying about this, as it were, the main thing is that there is in general , the main feeling, of course, you know, here would be our uh sofa alarmists, uh, general staff officers. and in general, all our couch military audience. at least for half a day it would be like this in the form of a throne , because the main thing is that you will meet something like that, this is the feeling that something is wrong, you understand the general one. eh, as if the general mood among people is to fight a penalty shootout to the end and even when you talk there, guys. why do we need lvov so you know very severe and i’ll tell you like a soldier. you know, so that they would later lionize with one of

his nafig, you understand, therefore, the feeling here is very, uh, you understand the right ones without any there. hooray hats. we throw everyone perfectly understand what kind of enemy they are fighting, but there is no feeling anywhere that this is the enemy you know, here. well, something that is too tough for us, with which we can somehow agree there. no, people here fight to win and win, and when mariupol finishes this, this is the mariupol group, it will probably be the most combat-ready group, uh, which will act in this direction, so i’m from here, uh, what is called every day i return from mariupol i always come back to the feeling that i rather, you know, charged my soul batteries than replaced them. but tell me vlad a about just mariupol ending the conversation about mariupol a a about the fact that there are two left, not affecting anything, pockets of resistance that systematically defend, but still, but two questions, which er, i'm

interested in the first. and yesterday, they wrote and talked a lot about a certain attempt. e parts of the defenders, but vushniks or the national battalion, and break out of mariupol somewhere as part of almost a battalion. what do you know about it? eh, how did it end? tell me please. well, uh, from a military point of view, most likely it was not a breakthrough. it was an attempt to find a corridor through which all the stats could go, because there was a breakthrough somewhere, well, about two hundred no more and the way it was organized, of course, is very vile, purely in the ukrainian nazi manner with our own z symbols columns. they even put a hummer with a red cross in front. you know, he saw everything, that is, the calculation was classic how they took cover behind the inhabitants so that we would not shoot in the same way. these the things here were trying to break out, but uh, the cauldron

is lined up, you know? he is carefully monitored, they are waiting for him, and this attempt to find a corridor along which everyone can then jump out, she failed. i think there will be more, but first of all, it means that they don't want to die, you understand? it is they who are talking on the internet about how they are dying here for the happiness of ukraine, you understand and what kind of heroes they are all here, but in reality some heroes are trying to dress up in civilian clothes, hiding behind red crosses and strangers signs. just drop it, you know? tell me please, but about, uh, here is the desire to dump and unwillingness, as you said, to die, but are attempts to pull it out continuing? uh, someone from azov has been steeled, whom they have been trying to pull out by helicopters for a long time through some kind of negotiations and so on? and who, apparently, also does not want to die at all, that you have a situation with this story, following more landing sites that we would not control, there is no fire, so maybe

only some completely crazy pilot try again to break through here somehow, the previous two attempts ended very badly. there, in my opinion, it turns out that out of six helicopters only one flew away, and it is clear that it did not take out those who were needed, because the second flight ended for both death helicopters, but they tried to get out. ships, at least to probe the exit, as you know, there one ship tried to turn around to the ukrainian coast, but nothing came of it either. and they turned him around and forced him to go back, and now he is sorting it out. who tried there what is called on this ship to leave, therefore, i think that the options to escape somewhere are becoming every day, less and less, just today i heard there or yesterday, more precisely, one of the 126 farewell appeals was heard by the natives. so you know, the commander of the azov regiment, here is one you just know me, well, to put it mildly, i’ll go out when he tells me that my lads officers are crying there, that they can’t give a child a piece of bread,

you see, i would like to see at least one child in mariupol, so the creatures gave at least a piece bread, i talked to the women there, who told me what they had there, uh, the local brewer brought. eh, you know, such a small pine box for children. and what is snickers one snickers one day of a child’s life, and they were lying together at the exit, these skins, these wrappers passed, he said, he saw the dryer, he said, he was not captivated climbed into the basement found these snickers visor, how to say on for children, and he said you don't need it anymore. take it away. take a breath. you understand these, it's clear and from being there. eh, the last one question, but actually the most important one, being. there's your idea of ​​who we're fighting with and what we're fighting for, but somehow a new understanding has changed. yes, you know, here i finally realized for myself that we are not at war with ukraine, this is an illusion. understand? we are already carrying the

third world war, which is taking place on the territory of ukraine and the ukrainians. uh, this is a tool of this third world war of nato and the americans against us, you know in general, i now understand that all the current stamina is theirs vsu, and that's it. and this is their focus. that is, she. it is all due to the huge western propaganda that we will not leave you, we will give you weapons, we will do everything so that you win, you understand? they may have been broken and erased a long time ago, but this is the feeling that such a huge hand is pushing them from behind. it ’s adding this to them for the time being, therefore, you need to defeat them so that, in general, there are no illusions . this thing was noticed, maybe i want to share it too for everyone, which, oddly enough, is all emphasis, that is, it ends within 3 minutes after the singing of not a single prisoner who would have yelled there, glory to ukraine and everything, as one there, by the way, as well as among the uh normal population. that is,

all of a sudden everyone sobers up at once. suddenly, everything at once becomes absolutely objective, they begin to understand everything, that is, ukraine must be liberated only in this way and in no way. otherwise, otherwise it is an infection. understood. thank you. vlad ah. good luck. hello. be careful as careful as you can be careful and careful. it was young shurygin a from area of ​​the special military operation. and in the donbass, it was not by chance that i said to him, uh, these words about accuracy and caution. all of you probably know what the correspondent of channel one irina kuksenkova came under fire from the nationalists. received, uh, wounded during shelling because of the agsa. the guys who accompanied the military actually covered her with themselves were also wounded, which is normal for the question of, so to speak , the qualities of a russian soldier, but we also wish her and them all recovery, and good luck to all

correspondents. who works there? i hope that everything will be fine. well, now we will talk with you, just about what we started talking with vlad about that we all perfectly understand that this is resistance. i and these difficulties and uh, this is, as it were, a viscous, uh, special military operation in which ukraine , of course, clings to uh. that's for everything. what can it cling to? this is not about ukraine , as vlad shurygin rightly said. this is a much larger and more complex confrontation; in fact, it is already obvious that this is with nato from the western american-centric world. and so, where exactly is this going to go next. yes, by military means. we are pushing and will continue to push, but where is this whole process going and what is it fraught with for everyone, including, by the way, for them this is the most important issue now - advertising, then we will continue. do not switch to cosmonautics day at the first vostochny cosmodrome this is the youngest

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live. how can you say before advertising? it seems to me that it’s already obvious to everyone that, whatever you call it, a special military operation in ukraine, the conflict around ukraine is against it, it’s not about ukraine, but it’s all about the fact that ukraine is like the tip of a western and nato spear, uh, aimed at us. we are trying, so to speak , to blunt to crush and so on and so forth, by the way. in general, practically does not hide. this is already in nato, talking about what is happening here, not as you know about some, as usual. it's like about some kind of conflict, for which they would not be watching, as it were, so to speak. here it analyzes. they talk about it almost openly, as if they were doing something. are they themselves a part of what they are or what is their business? well, here's the ambassador deputy secretary general, and nato e, today

he spoke directly about this, it seems to me, quite revealingly, listen we are entering the second stage more complex, different in nature from the first stage, on a much wider territory, both in the east in the donbass and in the south in the direction of the crimea and mariupol, according to our estimates, we are entering the second stage of this war, which seems to be dragging on. well, look alexey alekseevich. we are entering the second stage. yes, uh, we then we are all , in your opinion, such as a figure of speech. or uh, they have already stopped even pretending that they are just watching from the side. what is today? in your opinion, what is happening here for nato is when a person does something for a long time, and tries to hide it, but in the end it turns out that he reveals himself with various reservations , phrases, or even directly begins to say what he really does. we remember very well how

the nato leadership literally swore that they would not enter into conflict, that they would in no way support escalation of armed conflicts, and so further what we see we see direct support. we see directly the umbilical cord that connects the mother's body with this infantile ukrainian apu, which is fueled by armaments and finances. well, i don’t know about finances, but in any case, weapons are definitely in order to continue e conflicts, so that people die. it seems to me that this is some kind of infernal nato organization in general, which is in words. stops from the processes, but in fact continues to make the conflict last, as long as possible and me, of course, alarming the words of this nato figure about what is now the installation. now, what's called a master class is on prolonging the conflict. that's why, uh, the ukrainian negotiating team. hmm. now they are trying in every possible way to disrupt the negotiation process, drag it out, confuse it

, and so on. it seems to me that such special media activities are connected with this. e vladimir zelensky who turned from an evil clown into a bloody clown, but who is considered a hero in the west, guys, if you are such heroes to talk, we really have nothing to tell the truth about, but what is the question here? uh, when you said that they swore that they were not going to, it means they were doing it by military means. this is also sworn. and that we did not support. and this is where my question arises. what do you think or what do you think? from the very beginning there was no plan to intervene, and then something influenced the fact that they decided to get in there, deeper. no. they are just one step away from failure and now they are trying to lay straws in advance, because they understand very well, if we find evidence that they planned it, led it, financed it. and most importantly , they participated in this from leadership positions, then i think that they will have something to say on the

sites, and i'm afraid that the tribunal, which we often say in this studio, will already be deployed in a slightly different direction. but this is the formulation of the question that they are one step away from failure. and you, as if happily agreed, and in what do you see their failure and, in fact, how what is the distance this step, what is needed for them to take this step to failure in your opinion, if it is so failure is not that we will prove their participation, we will prove their part of us no one will listen, as they never listened, for all to another passionate boy for all other matters. they simply will not pay attention to the failure of this right in the success of our special operations, if we achieve the goals that were set, as minister lavrov absolutely rightly said, this will be a blow to the entire western family. we the whole system will vouch for what will be measured is the beat here. here, explain this situation to me. here is the step to failure. here is their failure, what happened that everything

fell apart for them, and the next east will happen. ukraine will be liberated. after that, the kiev regime will fall down, where they have a bottom, they have a-a, the need will need to be necessary to conduct serious negotiations themselves. why us ah, because the system according to the growth of the region. describe to me what it means the system is collapsing regional elite in ukraine in dnepropetrovsk kharkov in all others cities felt that the kiev regime has completely lost control of the situation will negotiate with us directly when you speak, i felt that the kiev regime has completely lost control of the situation, they will begin to negotiate, and i ask you. what are you in? you measure when they feel that he has lost control over the situation , the defeat of the ukrainian group, the donbass, the first big serious military, image success of the russian federation during this special operation. after that, it will be clear that everything will be crumble, and then it will just snowball. this

is not the first time in history that such things have been done, but for the first time in history, the regime is crumbling after a serious defeat in the framework of a military conflict. and once again, this will be a big problem for nato, because the alliance will show that he could not protect the one he called his ally and moreover, listen, but he called his ally everything here and even if it turns out that here some kind of egg, and in this egg there is some kind of needle. she's got something on the end of that needle. it still not yet. this is, roughly speaking, very important here, but from the point of view of nato, which called it its own, everything does not end here. here, unlike in afghanistan, unlike in iraq , unlike in other peripheral conflicts, here in europe, here is the border of nato, and once again this will be very serious. you wanted to add something. i just wanted to help a little george. the fact is that we are talking about a reputational failure of nato. they, uh, have laid a lot of things on this conflict and other

countries, which, hmm, are also bitches. it is known who they are watching now, how, uh, the same states of britain will behave. this is the first. second , after the completion of the special military operation, we will not talk about zelensky, but the guys from nato will need a scapegoat. this goat already knows this goat zelensky. excuse my french. well, i'll say this. uh, banal, it seems, but often they forget to get an answer about what is happening today and what will happen in the future, look into the past, especially since today . how u answered correctly to this disposes april 12, 1961 12 years have passed? sorry, i mean first. the first launch of a satellite, and then four years later, just 16 years later, the end of the great patriotic war is correct. and

what is the great patriotic war in european? ah, the continent is the then european union under the leadership of hitler, that is, nato, his union in the current uh wording, and we went east. well, as always, they went east. we did not go to the west of e russia russian empire soviet union and so on. who won we won is the pledge of our future successes of space scientific potential, why is it always there in this victory now in this victory which is destined, because uh, that then the third reich meant this mercha e general named he is a true ally of nazi germany uh, table, then all nato is he

norwegian? norway is a true ally. uh, nazi germany well then, in europe, there were almost no countries that were not allies of nazi germany, either active or passive allies, so it makes no sense to list any european politicians. it's so, well, there was some kind of yes, yes so, well, well, the british and now we see the same thing. the beginning of world war ii the great patriotic war the beginning of hitler's expansion how many allies were there from what later became of the nazi coalition can be counted on the fingers of one hand? and by the end of the forty-fifth year, how many of those from the egyptian collection included all those who were then recorded. uh, france, he sits on the security council of the soviet union, uh, prepared with great britain, the united states and already dozens were former the allies of the third reich became its opponents, and

were part of such a kiev coalition every 75 years. history repeats, of course, with all sorts of technological faults, but if we take the general configuration, including the side configuration, we will see an amazing coincidence, an amazing coincidence in this, and my historical optimist in this e is not my capital, but the optimist of the history that i am so i see and think quite clearly explained everyone can look at the maps, here are the tutorials and see. that what i say is absolutely didn't come up with anything. thus we are doomed to victory we are doomed to victory question in tactical decisions question in operational decisions, how soon this will happen, of course, a scapegoat has been found, but