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good evening, the final episode of the big game program is on air today, while on the occasion of cosmonautics day at the eastern cosmodrome, russian president

vladimir putin held talks with his belarusian counterpart alexander lukashenko and made a number of very important statements, both on the military special operation in ukraine and on broad foreign policy issues russia and international relations. in particular, the president once again stressed that this special operation was inevitable and for the desire of the west to turn ukraine into an anti-russian springboard and support nationalism there, that this special operation is developing according to plan. and that its goals will certainly be achieved, and also that the world today is neither bipolar nor unipolar, but much more complicated, listen to the world today is more difficult than it was during the cold war, when there were two blocs, everything overlapped, like omov’s lists of one country did not will be able to keep your full domination, what is happening today is happening today , uh, the breakdown of the system of the unipolar world that developed after uh after the collapse of the

soviet union it's not important many times. they say that the united states is ready to fight with russia to the last ukrainians. and they say there, and we say, in fact, the way it is. well, to the first part of this statement of the president. we 'll be back a little later. and now i would like focus on the last e on the last phrase of vladimir putin that the united states, trying to restore the remnants of its hegemony, is ready to drag out the military conflict in ukraine as much as possible and, in fact, use ukraine as a consumable. igor yurievich well, the united states is ready to fight to the last ukrainian, as vladimir putin said - this is true, and russia, as vladimir putin again emphasized today, considers ukrainians a fraternal people. he is even one

people with us, that is. we are not going to fight until the last ukrainian. what should we do in this situation? first of all, i think the very important message that the president of russia sent to the world around us and to all those who are closely following the special operation is that it will continue until the tasks that were formulated by our leader are fully completed. on the first day of its start , however, we emphasize once again that we do not consider the people of ukraine as our enemy. it's brotherly to us we are three people, belarusian russian ukrainian people. this is a single whole, and in this regard, a very clear selection regarding the fact that the kiev regime is the nazis, we are fighting with them during a special military operation. we

carry out activities aimed at the implementation of goals and objectives, but we did not consider it. we will never consider the people of ukraine as our enemy. this is important if only to ensure that military-civilian administration and beyond as we move forward. and this is inevitable after the completion of the second stage of the special military operation, when the afu grouping in the donbass is destroyed, obviously our capabilities will be concentrated in order to move forward in this regard, we expect that we will be met precisely as liberators by the russian army. this is the liberator army, as for the united states of america in the uk, western countries, they determined their tactics of war to the last ukrainian and refusal zelensky from the previous agreements that were initialed during the istanbul negotiations once

again shows that he is externally controlled by all these visits. western leaders, in particular boris johnson, their goal was precisely to force the regime in kiev to abandon those agreements that were, in principle, reached and continue the war further. well , indeed, russia is not at war with the ukrainian people , and the ukrainian people are expendable for the united states in their war against russia, but, in addition, today vladimir putin said that he nevertheless emphasized once again that the most important thing is the purpose of this special operation. this is the liberation of donbass and ensuring its security alexey petrovich ah. we are approaching a certain apogee of this special operation today , because. that's it. as i understand it , the main hostilities will be conducted around the donbass in the near future. how do you assess the overall state of the special operation and its prospects in the

near future, but now we are talking about the second phase, but a special military operation, in which, of course, the main task was to eliminate the group that has been standing there for about 8 years of that fortified area, from which shelling is still going on in the donetsk and luhansk cities of settlements, and we we constantly get this summary, in which they bombed, then the bottom, as it were, a creation, then another more than 300 buildings from the beginning. this operation was destroyed as a result. here is this fire. there is, of course, another object in this region. uh, another target is mariupol, where in cellars. this is azov sallia, the remnants of these battalions. azov and mercenaries who are still there and are not going to give up yet. although they try to break through and such breakthroughs, they stop, but someone is not lucky, he destroys him, but someone is lucky, and he surrenders.

well, it’s clear that some kind of grouping is not liquidated until it is liberated, mariupol is finally and cleared of these elements until e is, the liquidated group near the donbass will continue the operation until no one is not going to. it is necessary to finish this phase and move on to the next, because it was in this grouping that they were concentrated. all, well, the maximum motivated forces are the most armed, which were trained in advance to attack the donbass. that is, when the enemy is about to attack. so, he always collects the maximum of trained troops on the line of contact and what we are now looking at in the supply of weapons. we come to the conclusion that most of the weapons were brought from strange eastern europe, these weapons are practically not left. and the fact that it is now supplied

by the soviet model. very little, therefore, it is necessary to supply weapons to nato countries and even from distant australia, that is, they choose the weapons that can be supplied. if we look at the nature of weapons. yes, there is also heavy equipment, but in small quantities. eh, whether this technique will reach the advanced one is simply open, because, for example, the slovak complex from 300 to the advanced did not reach its two, as if two batteries were destroyed one near nikolai, the other near dnepropetrovsk, and tank units, let's say, they are counting on yes, t-72 tanks, if you look, they go without active dynamic protection, they are death-preservation, but they need to be equipped with these protective equipment, but the fact is that already in the ukrainian army, when they started this operation , on many tanks there were dummies of this protection, so they became, of course, the laws of extraction of

our tankers who are highly trained. fixed and sometimes the score was 90, that is, one tank crew destroyed nine tanks enemy, and everything, of course, is not in favor of this grouping, which has turned out. so those fortified areas that were not built, they became theirs. as the trap says. yes, they are sitting and can not lean out of there and do some kind of manner. yes, we have deprived them of fuel and lubricants. no, they have this, uh, diesel fuel, there is also gasoline to break through somewhere on the bridge, a breakthrough to the east, when the airspace is completely controlled, of course, it will suffer a victim and they no longer have the opportunity, so they they snarl, they work on the principle of a carousel, that is, some fire weapon leaves and strikes. it immediately goes into hiding. of course , our aerial reconnaissance works and reveals these fire weapons that are destroying them. therefore, in the reports we see all the time that the multiple rocket launcher system has been destroyed, the battery from the bottom will destroy

the air defense system and there were a lot of drones, there were 36 bayraktars. now it's the second batch of brokter, they are all destroyed and they appear in different places. but since we are already working. there professionals and together with the donetsk and luhansk military units, the work is going to be destroyed. and so they suffer a technical defeat so far. this grouping suffered a technical defeat, but the final defeat is inevitable, because this is the main task of the second phase of the operation, and today vladimir putin made it clear, uh, what the next phases of this operation could be, since there are a lot of uh, special emphasis today vladimir putin did on the issues of denocification. and he reminded that this goal is not absolutely not removed, a from the agenda of the russian special operation and policy

towards ukraine as a whole, and the president pointlessly noted that recently neo-nazism has become a quoting fact of the life of a large and close country to us, and this remains unconditional. uh, a very important task. one of the highest priority tasks. e russian special operation. indeed , without denocification. it is impossible to ensure the long-term security of donbass even if this group is surrounded and destroyed, because in the future, if the issue of denification is not resolved, then in the future it may a new threat will arise, and then another threat, and so on. and i want to ask, and oleg anatolyevich but is it possible to ensure denocification without a fundamental change in the very paradigm of ukraine's development and with its current political regime? well, look, we went to such situational cification, which is already happening now and

there is really fundamental, as far as situational is concerned, remember. we were promised that everyone had a machine gun buried, that a machine gun was buried, that a guerrilla war would begin, this is part of the liberated territory, there really is for the first time. we were met by a huge number of some kind of hammers who showed us the figs tongues to the soldiers. yes, they waved ukrainian flags, even arranged rallies and they said that nothing would work out for you, and we still wo n’t repent to you here, and so on, some time has passed. they saw a russian soldier and realized that this soldier, and not brought harm to them, he is not going to be a villain, as promised, as he was portrayed. this, by the way, is the effect that was, and in germany in on the forty-fifth, when the goebbels propaganda kept saying that the terrible hordes of these

bolsheviks would come, which non-humans like monkeys would rape and kill everyone, and the funny village guys came on the harmonica, played with a fence, repaired milk, children, watered. you see , almost the same thing is happening now, and people are warming up, turning around in them, finally waking up, that russian feeling that gogol used to say once, and here is a person, even from yelling and so on. he begins to understand that he is russian and he hugs them, his tears flow, and he begins to hug them and starts to break through, and he begins to tell the truth that was mariupol mm, yes, 60% and before the special operation. there were others, but who were for russia, but others were against it. but when there are hundreds now, here i have friends, many people in mariupol tell, call, write, tell, but honeycomb. people who witnessed how the nazis killed civilians in front of their eyes, one is there some kind of

propagandist or two of some kind of nothing like hundreds of people and is it really possible to somehow hush up. we are already importing new textbooks, not the nazi ones that they had. uh, accordingly, everything related to culture will go with the investigation of the mass media, rubles have already begun to go there. and, of course, there will be special events in the liberated territories. uh, related to so to speak, you are smoked by some kind of underground and you will need to apply various experiences. uh, including the experience of the denocification of nazi germany at one time, when, in general, uh, probably to strike at the rights of those people who served the fascist regime and, uh, they should not be allowed into the media, to the authorities, to law enforcement agencies. the sphere of education into the sphere of culture. here's a five. where these people should not be in any case. well, probably, ukraine should seriously change its

legislation regarding the status of the russian language in terms of the prohibition of prohibitions, of course, the nazi ideology of all battalions of those organizations that were directly connected with this is prohibited, but by the way, here, returning to the question of the current the kiev regime is a very telling indicator. uh, how he is able to contract at all, how he behaves, and is the fact that today. vladimir zelensky refused to receive president of the federal republic of germany franco walter steinmeier in kiev. well, firstly, this is a direct insult to the president of germany, and zelensky thereby once again emphasized his attitude to the minsk agreements, because we remember one of the clauses of these agreements was just that, the most notorious steinmeier formula, which a com. it assumed the sequence of the implementation of those steps that were prescribed, and in these minsk agreements and ukraine

categorically did not like it, but in a situation where ukraine is existentially dependent on western money from western weapons. and germany is the main economy of europe yes, but to act like this, and in relation to german president vladimir alekseevich , this is, uh, an indicator that the tail is wagging the dog or is it a signal from the united states of germany yes, in this way it is insulting transmitted through zelensky and that germany needs to somehow get rid of russian gas from russian oil as soon as possible, and the introduction of new sanctions will not be stubborn at all, as germany was stubborn when it was, when the fifth fifth package was adopted, and precisely the second option. it seems to me the most reliable. uh, it's not for nothing that our president today said that the world is much more difficult than it was during the cold war, the world is much more difficult than this most

popular confrontation. it's a confrontation of different uh won't say blocks of different elements system of international relations and one of the key tasks of the united states of america is to break europe , to break through the knee. as has been repeatedly emphasized, this turns out. that is why prices are rising in germany. that is why there are shortage problems and that's it. the rest is a task. it will artificially break the existing chains, the existing links within the system of international relations. this is an artificial formation of boundaries. russia between close will not be absolutely not going to. what has also been repeatedly emphasized our leader. we are open to the world, but today europe is essentially making its own choice, and ukraine is trying to point out the key european country in particular. what choice needs to be made? this undeniably comes from the fact that the united states is

forcing ukraine to be, if you like, a mouthpiece for the subjugation of europe, a united state of america. once again in history, the united states is trying to pull off a situation in which they would subjugate europe only by new methods. after all, it was already it was after the second world war after the great patriotic war. today. this is, if you like, such a plan 2.0 within the framework of which the west is trying to consolidate, more precisely, the united states is trying to consolidate the west around a new threat. after all, there was no threat after the collapse of the soviet union with full nato was looking for. uh, the threat was invented or not invented. it really was a reality. terrorism is a big threat to the international community. but it was artificially formed, it is worth remembering that american colleagues have been doing this for many years, and this kroza was formed by them to

further consolidate the north atlantic alliance, and again the threat disappeared. and what is the point then in this north atlantic alliance there is no soviet union? so you need to demonize russia as much as possible and make it this very new threat. this is what he is trying to do now, breaking through the knee. european economies breaking through the knee. all those good ligaments that were formed throughout. well, 30 years after the collapse of the soviet union for sure, but thus, our american colleagues, but subjugate , liquidate europe as such, it ceases to be a subject, but from the point of view of the system of international relations, which means the future of russia is in communication with those who are subjective, that is, first of all with our colleagues in india who as recently announced our natural e, partners and allies future communication with those who are ready for this soo? well, independent dialogue. eh, actually the future behind this complex. it will not be very easy,

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big game is on the air the united states is really trying to drag out the ukrainian conflicts as much as possible and use ukraine as cannon fodder in their fight against russia, but it must be said that not everyone in the american expert community shares this. here is rush in the biden administration, and more and more critical voices are heard of those who, firstly, criticize the policy that the united states has pursued towards russia over the past 30 years, and secondly, the goals and instruments of american policy in regard to russia at the present time and literally today e in the newspaper, the new york times, and an article by a very prominent american expert was published. charles capcino, and now he's a professor at georgetown university,

formerly a high-ranking official in the administration. barack obama listen to russia's invasion of ukraine has shown a gap between the idealistic aspirations of the united states and real geopolitics, which has been widening since the nineties . the west erred in ignoring russia's legitimate security concerns. that 's why she settled on the other side of her border with ukraine, more than 1,000 miles long moscow's dissatisfaction with ukraine's intention to join nato is no different from the us opposition to wanting to keep the major powers away from its borders talking about a peaceful settlement of the conflict that will ease sanctions western democracies must remain open to careful and selective cooperation with moscow i want to emphasize that charles kapchan. this is not an armchair academic academic, such as, for example, john ersheimer, but he is a democrat who headed the direction of foreign policy planning in the second administration of barack obama, he is flesh and

blood american in appearance. the classical establishment and today he recommends that the united states act in accordance with the principles of realism, and not liberal messianism, and ivan alekseevich how do you think, how influential will this point of view expressed by charles capcino become, i would draw attention to two points. first, they are now trying to portray everything in such a way that russia is doing something incredible, that something terrible can even be imagined it was impossible for myself. this is what russia is actually doing you can see over the past 30 years, dozens of american americans, not only, as you say, rightly scientists, but practitioners of those who were in different administrations said that you know, sooner or later it will come to this, because that we are infringing on russian interests in such a way that, and this cannot go unpunished. this is

not only a mixer, which, probably, all russians already know. it's olds different realism classic scientist william feathers, and the secretary of defense in administration in administration. uh, klintana, they were talking about this, and acting as if, uh , experts, uh, practitioners and and really scientists, and , uh, chals. in this sense, it repeats, so the question is what was said about it, and therefore imagine that something incredible happened exactly, something that dozens of people, both practitioners and theorists, spoke about. but i would like to pay attention. this is the second point that i wanted to note at the end of the speech, chalza, whom many of us know well personally, and they realism is understood in this way. so you said that he switched to the position of realism, that we would cooperate with russia