the american dollar is like a toxic currency and even uh, the international monetary fund. erm deputy managing director, if i remember, yes the imf said that confidence in the dollar is declining and many countries will be getting rid of e dollars. the process has already begun. uh, brazil has increased. uh, foreign exchange reserves in yuan four times. uh, china is the main holder. e dollar mass is more than a trillion, but it will certainly be. uh, trying to cut down on dollar investments, but still a very important instrument of american pressure against russia is the expansion of nato, and in the near future, apparently, another round is ahead. e. nato expansion into two scandinavian countries that remained neutral. e during the entire period after the second world war, and in the case of sweden this and even further. i mean,

just sweden, and finland, which are actively invited and dragged into nato, thereby creating a very difficult security situation for russia, and today deputy head of the russian foreign ministry alexander grushko in in particular, he stated that the entry of sweden and finland into nato would mean a radical change in the military-political situation for russia, and deputy chairman of the russian security council dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, in principle , issued a very harsh warning to stockholm helsinki and nato. listen if sweden and finland join nato, the length of the land borders of the alliance with the russian federation will more than double, naturally these borders will have to be strengthened, the grouping of land forces will be seriously strengthened forces and air defense to deploy significant naval forces in the waters of the gulf of finland. in this case,

the balance can no longer be discussed about any non-nuclear status of the baltic states. the balance must be restored until today. russia was not going to take such measures . if we are forced, well, mind you, we didn’t offer it, as the hero of the famous old film said. and ivan alekseevich well, it’s really worth looking at the map to see how seriously the security of the russian northwest will change the security of st. petersburg if sweden and finland join nato we should expect some kind of repeat of the 1983 missile nuclear crisis only much closer to russian borders and may be much more intense. do you think this cannot be ruled out? but i think that it will not be long-range strategic missiles , but tactical medium -range missiles, and the modernization of not only

strategic nuclear weapons, but also the modernization of tactical and tactical weapons, ah, but, in my opinion, all this will not remain on such a regional scale, because from my point of view, there, er, that scale of modernization of nuclear weapons. here, in a round of the arms race, if he starts ah, it will not be possible to carry out while maintaining the treaty on a comprehensive ban on nuclear tests. and the rejection of the comprehensive nuclear-test-ban treaty, although it has not entered into force, but it was signed, uh, by it was signed by part of the uh nuclear powers comply with the de-factor. we didn't have e in the nuclear world tests. for a very, very long time, this has held back the modernization of nuclear weapons in all nuclear powers. and i mean, there were no tests at the major nuclear powers, because north korea has been tested in the past

decade. well, if nuclear tests are resumed in the interests of modernizing a major modernization of nuclear weapons, then, of course, this will have a global dimension. uh, the global consequences will spur on, and the arms race will spur on and that's it. and with that, i want to say. that's about what, what does it seem to me, as far as i understand, and i interpret the first part of your conversation with dmitry simons in the same way, that in the united states the idea remains that they can dose where the situation develops? to what extent, if they don't like something, then they can change uh, vector uh, make the situation returnable, that is, sit down at the negotiating table there from my point of view. we are approaching the fact that irrevocable things will happen, that is, it will happen, after which the movement back no well, for example, it will no longer be possible to conclude a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty again. if it suddenly crumbles after this

non-nuclear weapons treaty. and once again it will be impossible to conclude it. we are moving very quickly towards a change in reality, including in russian -american relations. so i want to draw attention to what you talked a lot with dmitry salems about performances. what are the representations in different countries. and what about such a reality, the united states and its allies snab yut zelensky and him, well, i can’t call it the armed forces anymore. just his field units. uh, the radicals are supplied with weapons. i’m not sure that you can take it later and explain it like that, what do you know, we have such moods in the administration there in congress, such moods have developed all these alignments, that the president had to be on all these waves, like this and swim

it. well, that's up to you. he sailed on such waves, but there is a new reality and guarantees that we opened the door to this reality a little, and then suddenly closed again and everything started in the old way. no, we are now on the verge of opening the doors. uh, very unpleasant in russian american relations. we are starting to open doors. uh, uh nuclear arms race, and that's all, it can be absolutely irrevocable from my point of view. uh, now, i ca n't understand, uh, the united states is on a plan, isn't it? or i, well, the eldest, eda, uh-huh, ragnarok , that's some kind of right way, or, but really, that's the feeling of our own power, that we can always set the game. it's in

in this case, he plays with them. uh, a cruel joke, and they themselves may not notice how they really lose, uh, control of this game. and we open those doors that we can no longer close. i fully agree that we are returning, uh, to the cold war in many ways, but the current situation seems to me more dangerous and less predictable and less manageable than in the last cold war, because , firstly, uh, in the last cold war , after all advice. the union and nato were separated by a buffer sweden-finland were neutral, but there were countries organizations of the warsaw pact. yes, that is, the main line of the conflict was very far removed from the immediate territory of the soviet union and, of course, there was mutual respect between the two superpowers. i’m not sure that this mutual respect exists, but today the rhetoric that the

leaders of the united states allow themselves, including president biden, but, unfortunately, suggests that the current state of russian american relations is worse, than uh, the state of soviet american relations even in the worst periods, and cold war, but we also spoke with dimitri simons, but about what a struggle, uh, we see in europe, the conflict in ukraine a. this is only part of the overall struggle for international order. there are other, let's say, theaters of war and one of the main theaters of war is asia. the united states is fighting not only against russia, they are fighting against china, which they see as their main strategic rival. and by the way, cia director nick burns said today that it was china is seen as a strategic and the main

strategic and geopolitical challenge for the united states in the 21st century and in parallel with the incitement of the ukrainian conflict, and in parallel with the attempts of the united states to prolong the ukrainian conflict. they once again burn another conflict, the taiwan conflict. and recently, nancy palace was supposed to fly to taiwan, the speaker of the house of representatives did not fly, she allegedly fell ill with coronavirus. but still today. e arrived in taiwan, another very high-ranking delegation of the united states congress includes in themselves six congressmen led by senator bob menendos, who is chairman of the senate foreign affairs committee in the same group, and the delegates include a senator. lindsey graham is a republican very influential republican senator, and thus the united states

sends signals of bipartisan, but support, taiwan alexander vyacheslavovich what do you think? eh? why the united states is fomenting the taiwanese conflict at the same time as the ukrainian conflict, you know back in the sixteenth year. eh, here in congress, u the united states, in my opinion, there is the head of the defense committee, and the magician tomber, u said that it is time for us to return to america the concept of a one and a half war, where half of the war is all whole parts of the war, this whale is china and their twenty-second year . this was also said in 1916, and 60% of nato forces and all in the united states, or rather, no, the united states should be concentrated in the indo-pacific region. this is one, and the second the fact is that uh, uh, what makes america strong is the financial world. this is the digital world. taiwan is almost everything. uh, those ones conductors and microelectronics, yes. and the same one, korea is also the whole memory machine. who

owns it, owns it. that is the same digital world and at the end of last year in the magazine fs. there was such a very interesting article america china and the tragedy of the politics of the great powers, where they sprinkle ashes on their heads while they are not eating yet. uh, they say that because of our greed, uh, we transferred production to china and grew this monster. and now it is not clear what to do with it. there are only two options. uh, or launch a nuclear strike on china either plunge the world into such a terrible global crisis, so that china itself collapsed other options. we just don't have an open english volume anymore. they say, on the page of the magazines, so yes, they will fire now, because whoever takes control of the digital economy, he will take control of southeast asia, and then he will. wild, in fact, in this right now fucidite trap. yes, we all remember the movie adventures of electronics, we are told athens went to war on sports. it's literally always. uh, falling

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actually already introduced e, its national embargo on the import of russian energy carriers the european union has introduced the fifth package of sanctions, which involves an embargo on the import of russian coal from august of this year. the sixth package of sanctions of the european union is now being discussed, which may introduce some restrictions on the import of russian oil and many key european countries. they say that within a few years they will try. all get rid of russian natural gas imports. well, here's the first one, lithuania, of course, it is at the forefront of this process and announced that it has already completely stopped the consumption of russian natural gas, but certainly. this e damages themselves, and countries european union. and today about it. vladimir putin said very correctly, let's listen.

russian energy companies are responsible participants in the world market, they have proven themselves for more than a decade to work strictly by fulfilling their obligations. attempts by western countries to squeeze out russian suppliers to replace our energy resources with alternative supplies will inevitably affect the entire world economy, and the consequences of such a step can become very painful, and first of all for the initiators themselves . such politicians. and what is surprising here is that the so-called partners from unfriendly countries admit that they cannot do without russian energy resources, including natural gas, for example, its reasonable replacement for europe is simply absent now. yes, it is possible, but now all this is missing, they understand that there are simply no free volumes on the world market, and supplies from other countries, primarily from the united states, which

can be sent to europe, will cost consumers many times more and will significantly affect the standard of living of people and competitiveness european economy. despite these things that are obvious to everyone, european countries are constantly talking about refusing russian supplies, further destabilizing the market and inflating themselves with their own hands, primarily for their citizens. ivan alekseevich what do you think, firstly, will the european union accept the demands that russia, uh, presented under the payment scheme, well, so far, two countries of the european union , hungary and slovakia, have said that, yes, and others, it seems, are hesitant, some say no. and secondly, how do you assess, in principle, the prospects for gas relations between russia and the european union, is it realistic to reduce them to zero? and i'll start from the second

, i think that their reduction to zero. uh, real under certain circumstances. rather, if you are ready to accept certain consequences, these consequences, and a radical deterioration in people's lives, is simply a transition to a different quality of life, and i don’t know, sleep in warm clothes there. uh, so, and so on and so forth, probably massive unemployment. yes, there and in the service sector, too, not and most importantly de-industrialization, because gas is not only comfort of life for end consumers for people, gas is a european industry. here is the very real sector that exists there, yes, which

means that it is huge. industry, and this means again the loss of jobs, the loss of taxes , the loss of value-added chains and the loss of taxes of jobs. not just somewhere in one place all these uh these chains. that is, it is possible if it is simply the destruction of what has not even been done now. and what was created in europe well, probably several centuries 2-3. uh, centuries, for sure, from the industrial revolution, that is, two centuries to be deleted from your history. e, then yes, perhaps if you are ready to accept such consequences, well, become some kind of geo-economic appendage of the united states, that is, then clearly fix yourself. uh, here in the american food chain. well, about

the same roles that european once had uh colonies, that is, well, in general, what happens in the world, as we often say, where colonization is a new stage of ideological decolonization. and we will see the geo-economic e- colonization of europe with the united states, but, but i think that, but people will gradually become aware of all this and as long as democracy is preserved there. and although it is possible that some state of emergency, elections and so on, will be put off, but people will gradually wake up, of course, we see demonstrations in different parts of europe, but i still rely more on the fact that first comes to his senses in the industrialists, and uh, somehow vladimir alekseevich will start talking more seriously with his politicians, but it’s obvious that as the volume of trade and economic relations between russia and the west decreases , and the volume of russia’s relations with the outside west. here

is today very interesting news appeared. uh, the russian consulate general in harbin said that by the end of this year 2020-2022, the volume of russian chinese trade could reach $200 billion . and how can we not reproduce the model that had place in russian western relations. thanks dmitry question. if i may. i briefly responded to what was said before and will definitely answer your questions. first, of course, i really liked about the american food chain, i completely agree that europe is becoming precisely part of the colonial world. only now it is exactly the opposite, and as a metropolitanate, as a colony, it is very important to understand here that the americans fall into the trap of their own illusions, that is, a trap. everything is very good, but they come across in e. the very trap in which it drives

creatures. they cannot behave in order, otherwise they try through conflict. uh to divert attention from a large number of problems that exist, if you will, the fundamental difference between the current moment and the bipolar confrontation in the absence of normativity in the absence of strict rules for this confrontation. and this is very risky from the point of view of the world order, not only the accession of sweden to finland there is, after all, radically radical, of course, this change from from the point of view of the baltic, but nothing will radically change, and practically all of europe is there, what is further on only the north pole will be distributed by bears, who have nowhere to spread china to their chinese. and here it is very important that we turn to the fact that the americans are not ready and are not able and are not ready to conduct a dialogue. therefore, it is necessary to provoke conflicts in various parts of the world in order to form a profitable one. themselves as they see

wednesday, but it's a trap 'cause breaking out of it this time, unlike world wars, that existed before the americans. if they just don't succeed, they themselves can get bogged down in the same conflict, as far as russia's interaction with the west is concerned. and this is now the most important thing for 30 years. we hoped that the west would conduct an equal dialogue with us. unfortunately, this was not achieved with our venus russia, as our president said, was an honest supplier of energy resources, a reliable supplier of energy resources, but we could not achieve respect, but from the west because it proceeded from the fact that we owe all the time, and at the same time there were certain illusions of hope that we could join the western process to become part of the west such a large country as russia can not be a part of something no matter whether we are west or east in fact, we are, whatever you like, a separate civilization, around which we must

build. a lot of this, if you like, is the center of gravity, to which sensible players will obviously be drawn in the future, because we are moving towards this very world of sovereign states and russia, while maintaining this sovereignty, will be able to become one of the key centers of power. ah, the future world order. for this, one must in no case fall into the desire to walk, but, which we had in relation to the west, only now in relation to the east, namely, to an equal distance. e, in concentrating on yourself, if you like, in nationalizing yourself, engaging in your industry, you know your educational network, your scientific network, e, the future of our country. well, of course, in the medium term, some elements dialogue and even cooperation between russia and the west will remain in the united states. these may be issues of strategic stability, preventing a direct military confrontation with nato and managing an arms race with the european union. there may be

remnants of the energy interaction of trade and even tourism, but now we need to think, first of all, not about this. and even more so, the destruction of former relations with the west should not be lamented. that model was sick. it did not bring russia any economic modernization insecurity. now. i think we need to think about how to get the most out of relations with our partners in a sudden world, how not to fall into one-sided dependence on any of them, and how to form together with them a polycentric world that is beneficial to russia, in which there will be no global hegemon, and no will be the only true development model. this will require us to fully agree with the great work of reconfiguring the diplomatic presence, business, education and science. but in any case, we need to look not back, but forward it was a big game. good luck to you. good

evening, on channel one, the program for the night is looking, my name is boris berman and i am ildar dzhandarev , people come to this studio who are of interest to these people. there is always something said, i would not want to offend anyone. the main thing for us is what to ask them at night looking. today our guest is a person without whom modern russian television cannot be imagined, this does not mean that he is responsible for everything that is done on modern russian television, but for many good things are responsible, it was he anatoly lysenko who came to us today to talk at night looking. hello anatoly grigorievich thank you for yes. hello grigoryevich, since you have

many different positions and regalia, including. naturally, public list them for a very long time. well, it's kinda boring. here's how to advise you to introduce you to our viewers, who, well, it just so happened not in the skin in the television behind the scenes, in a word, who you are to me telescopically. that you said those of pocket, you know there was a time. uh, when you and i saw every day. i want to explain to the audience what the thought is, right? worked on russian television, which at that time, uh, was directed by the general director anatoly grigoryevich lysenko and i'll tell you, maybe you forgot. i didn't forget that you were. actually, the first person who met me on television from this began, my television career will not say, but activities. i was in your office. you, of course, do not remember what you asked me when i came to you, i will remind you to you.