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his look showed that there are no forbidden topics. and today it's hard to imagine. what shall we say to make critical material about health care, it was necessary to obtain permission from the censorship of the ministry of health and the mfs censorship from the ministry of transport and when seryozhka lomakin, who happened to be on a business trip, filmed a terrible story, then a train with oil products exploded and a passenger train passing along a parallel track burned down, a lot of people died, and we betrayed this belief and mounted practically. well, from the wheels, we could not even help to say no, and danya kramer sat down at the piano live, as if the music was accompanying this story, and i

remember how the phones on the remote control jumped with a scream. who allowed? who authorized the report , the directorate of programs knows him first, then someone called the disc. there, they were all squealing so much that it was very difficult to understand. i want to change the subject back in the pit years. well, on the fifth street of the yamskoye field, where there was russian television, i was warned. if bald oh sorry, if lysenko starts talking about books, then kranty, so get straight to the point, i'll get straight to the point. please tell me that you like tv or books more. but how do you work all your life on television, which in essence kills for her? well first of all, one totally right well not really, well kind of the first thing i did

coming on public television. we started handing over at school to alexander mcnigah. so this is how i started the project from moscow, on the condition that i will be engaged in television and at the same time book trade, you will be in trouble. this is what it is russian word, and they say that you have been collecting books all your life. yes, and then a tactless question, where do you keep you, how many rooms are in your apartment? well, i have an apartment and a cottage. well, i have three libraries, one library is the books that i have read. these are the books that i collected from my youth, but for the time being from these books. i can tell the story of how i bought it, where i bought it , at which session of the supreme soviet or congress of the trade union of agricultural workers. i bought it. well, because it was dear friends.

it was a deficit and it was possible, yes, yes, and i have a lot of friends in the sketch trade, with whom we have been friends for a decade. the library is the library of the post-soviet space. when it was already much easier, when the publishers with whom i was friends all gave me a lot of books, many books are becoming simpler. i don't even remember how i got them. and the third library is the library, the most unloved is the library of books, which i did not read until i read the book, i do not put it in another library. this library. i don’t like it, because a sober person understands that in my life there won’t be enough for this library. then i can't stop hurting. then i propose, then i really love one poll. it

was held about 10 years ago by one magazine, and there were key ones, as was said. uh, figures of russian literature about books, these were writers, well, in front of me just readers. here is the reader archetype. i want to ask you a few questions from this means. if it was decided to leave only one book in the school curriculum, which one would you choose? you know it's very strange. i might have chosen postovsky lately, from many the report has become elbow-deep, sometimes from horrors. that it can be printed. that's because i have stupid manners. i finish reading everything that i started to read, but cried.

dostoevsky produced a terrible liver in me at one time, when i read poor people, but you understand what a thing is? i learned to read something at the age of 3 , even less than a wave somewhere around three years old. mom, she just taught me to save my life, so that i myself read, and not she read to me, and when i read. i am firmly convinced that dostoevsky should not be taught at school. this is harmful to the child's psyche. and besides, the child simply does not understand. name the book you laughed at the most. laughed 12 chairs, which he knows by heart, so to speak, everything, there is roma what book of the 20th century? can you name the most overrated. lolita is very much underestimated

very many i have many poets and for example, firmly escaped that with all my admiration for a high singer, as a poet your favorite quote. do not create an idol for yourself. and the best film adaptation of a fictional literary work mark zakharov so, what about the worst, what about the worst? i do not like to run away people, you mentioned you said, but paustovsky, as an author, whom you would leave

in the school curriculum with him, there was only one book , this is just a balm for the soul. i hmm i really love paustovsky and one story question for first-graders out of 150 people raised their hand two. and in his story about life there is one plot that i was then 14 years old, probably, when i read it, so he just turned me over, if you like, and the hero he is on a train, it is world war i, and he sees his double among the austrian prisoners, because you are addicted to parallel numbers. as far as i know, but just so strange, but i 'll ask, but who would your double be, you can imagine , if you suddenly saw him. it's hard to

say. perhaps they walk walk the earth. i am generally convinced that there are doubles. parallel is, and i don’t know who he would become. answer it all depends on the person. let's talk like that. my whole life has been contrary. then i found everything. that's according to the plan, that is, i graduated from school. not shine no special. properties, talents, etc. naturally, i entered miit because everyone who is a member of my family studied together. i graduated from miit, i went to work at a factory. i happily worked at the factory and grew up and that's it, then graduate school,

then i wrote something. then it went by accident. here is where it went wrong. and then everything went downhill. i told the central committee of the party, contrary to the ban, contrary to the instructions of the personnel service in the personnel policy, everything and remained an employee of the state television and radio, do not rise a special editor editor consultant, then later, when he got involved with a senior. i have been for 20 years. even more than almost 30 i became the editor-in-chief look. then one day i became. minister of the moscow

government then quite unexpectedly at the age of 76 years. i was offered to head this morning this public television of russia, all this , contrary to this, should not have happened. why don't i know lord and now a few questions in rhythm. blitz. this is what we call the dramaturgy of life. here is a short course in the dramaturgy of the life of anatoly lysenko it quickly learns a surname is something you never doubt? no. that is, you are subject to doubt. what is your way of negotiating with yourself ? talk about what right you value most

of all. step aside and don't breathe. do you know how zhvanetsky does not like it? step aside and do not breathe, how to properly communicate with those on whom you depend. in general, try not to depend on anyone. well, it still happens the same way, well, be grateful. and how to communicate with those who depend on you? oh this is really hard respectfully. respectfully worse no when? me and you, what should you do so that you are not manipulated? the ability to evade manipulators, if in life the rule that you never changed, well, or tried not to change. such a ban that you

always wanted to break and you were able to break it. there were cases what there were cases and the tooth somehow compared power with fire. come closer, burn closer. if you move further away, you will freeze, you happened to be mistaken in your disposition relative to power. probably not, 'cause i never tried to fit close. i prefer to get cold there were times like this, but i prefer not to get too close. and what is the truth? you would not want to know, but the one that i would not like to know, what is the main difficulty of life for you. that it ends,

go out to the funeral. lately i've been trying, no you know, because, firstly, the frequency increases. and then you look and think, my god. it was just recently, and we go to a funeral for the person who left or for ourselves, i would rather say, we go for ourselves. yes, you can for me here you know the standard. how was it when yurochka died of a binge? there were funerals and the virtual hall was probably thousands of people - a fantastic set of ministers, oligarchs, cleaners. and for an hour no one said a word. everyone stood silent. because everyone.

scrolled for myself. meeting expectation hope duty it's worth a lot. what moments of your life do you remember as moments of happiness. oh, a lot, well, firstly, when they pulled out of the hospital, they put this one like this i'm in the hands of a taxi. and she's like a roar. so, what did you almost endure so cleanly? i never thought that she would become the chief doctor of the great moscow clinic of the

huge hospital and learn to keep this commanding voice. and so, of course, this is the grandson of a lot of happiness, i get every day. here every friday i get my portion of happiness when i see how my grandson grows, like his. from behind the sleeves, arms begin to stretch out of the trousers of the leg, as he stretches up such happiness, i would like to see more. anatoly was our guest lysenko, which gave many of us working on television. chance not everyone took advantage of this chance, as you would like anatoly grigorievich , well, on the other hand. everyone has their own destiny and everyone will answer for it, where it is asked of him , and our program will meet with you, as always on channel one. hello

program time will tell live we continue the information channel on the first ya artyom sheinin already, which day is already which week we are discussing the events that we by inertia we continue to call special military operations in ukraine although it has been a long time and not the first week for all of us, it is clear that this is a special military operation, a military one, part of which is still taking place in ukraine, and the confrontation within which this is happening is much wider, much larger, and much tougher and much more roughly speaking, more defining for everyone and for everything and in a sense, and more cynical in this sense. uh, you need to remember also that it did not start on february 24th. today is just the same day that has an immediate

attitude to those words that we have already spoken a lot. in this studio and just yesterday, we said here in the studio that what is happening now on the territory of ukraine in the military sense is a counteroffensive in response to the expansion of nato for many decades to the east, which we have talked about many times and which was planned in relation to ukraine and the counteroffensive within the framework of the war that began exactly on this day 8 years ago, when the bloody passport by the name of turchinov, the same bloody pastor who, among others, and i was able to come to power in ukraine and start arranging all this there. and with the participation of those who are still helping the ukrainian kiev regime, they pump up weapons to wage this war and want this war to continue. that's it, when it all started and that's how it started and no one wanted to see the blood of these people and the blows to their cities. no one wanted to see it, it began, then and to the conversation. i know all these conversations, what, uh,

of course it could be somewhere here. it is sluggish to lead until february 24 to somehow solve all this. uh, here's the talks and so on 8 years of negotiations were going on eight long years of negotiations trying to solve it all. and these people were killed, killed, killed, bombed and killed again, and we talked about this all these 8 years and literally on the eighteenth of february. i spoke on the air to the ukrainian soldiers, whom i said that anyway, you will never defeat them, because sooner or later you will still have to kneel at the memorial. where their dead children lie, and exactly today, on this very day, when it all started, it's so bloody in donetsk and luhansk part of these soldiers, whom we warned not to, began exactly today. today they were brought to luhansk memorials where children lie. and listen to them. listen to what they say and how

they say it is very indicative of the nature of what is going on here and why, listen. i'm sorry, we were together with you one state. i don't understand how sveta differs from you simply because we didn't want to dance. in this you looked at me. artillery and fire for what purpose did you do it? which we didn't know no losses were known. and i don’t know, by the way, it’s hard for me to assess this one, i don’t know who he is an officer or a fighter, ukrainian, who is very ashamed, the horror lies in the fact that i don’t know when he got into

this zone, otherwise he really didn’t knows, because he lived before that somewhere in kiev or zhytomyr or rivne or dnipro and simply didn’t want to know, and now he is ashamed because he ended up where we warned that they would all end up or is it human mimicry , which is just now fighting for well, so to speak, for something to remain unharmed and just, as it were, lying. it doesn’t matter to me now, because this is already happening and it is happening not only in this way, and the most terrible thing is that all these people for the most part are russian people, russian is russian for him, his native language. the horror lies in the fact that the heads of these russian people were altered in such a way that they were re-flashed and re- embedded that they either did not want to know, or knew everything, but continued to do it for some reason and kill for some reason. and now they're screaming. for what? but, but this confrontation that began then 8 years ago, and it was also not about the donbass , then the only one got up and stood up and

russia supported it against a much wider confrontation, which has been repeated for 8 years. god knows, we warned everyone guys, let's negotiate. you don't have to be rude. this will end badly sooner or later. and it ends badly enough for so many now. or rather it continues very sadly. there are a lot of tears very bloody, but god knows, we have been waiting for this for 8 years and did not want this, and this confrontation is spilling much wider than the border of donbas than the border of ukraine, it is now spreading everywhere. here is germany, where the same ones came in large numbers with stitched heads who did not want to know and who did not know and who have not yet been put on their knees in front of these seas, because they jump into europe in the form of refugees and begin to threaten in this europe. to those russians and russian-speakers who support that this should all be completed, from threatening them and openly asking for car numbers , the working contacts of those people who

come out to these actions, but they make it clear to everyone what the nature of this confrontation is. these are not chat messages. this is very serious. these zombies. jumping people. they are very much ready. here is a video from berlin for you where are these cars today, some of these cars found by numbers, which they photograph and post burned it so that no one has any illusions, so to speak, that the scale of this confrontation is much wider than here or than here he and no one will be left behind and this is not the scale confrontation, know the civilized humane world with the world, means darkness and no progress, because this civilized humane world. for these month and a half uncovered so. that all we thought before was that there, under this film of civilization, somewhere in the depths, there is some kind of so to speak? here is the dark power. it turns out that this film of milli-micron was there and it was worth a little bit of scraping with the appropriate media

technologies useful. here climbed here these centuries of gloomy. this is european wretchedness. can imagine the finns finns, democratic, civilized progressive finns refuse a medical operation to our hockey player. for what reason is this because of the fact that he is a russian. and what is not enough in april 22 for a civilized humane-humane state of europe, now this is quite enough. this is, as they say, welcome to this world and everyone who wants to is invited to this world. and who does not want those companies that continue to work in russia under great pressure to leave employees of these companies left in ukraine. they are persecuted. these are western companies. it would seem that it should be like, well , there is no admiration for a western company for ukraine, half of the ukrainian employees quit half a huge e, persecution, so to speak, of course, a democratic country is a humane world in moldova,

officially a parliament. a country in which the latin alphabet is the official alphabet is officially prohibited from displaying the characters z and v the characters z and v are prohibited and the st. george ribbon is prohibited , you understand what it has come to. i don't know if it's possible many of these examples can be cited, and this is not only the level of the people of the companies of some finnish hospitals, for whom all these humane values ​​\u200b\u200band the hippocratic oath and humanism and civilization. everything flew around, because now this is the need for unity around something like this, that, that presses on everyone, it is above all. and everyone is being warned about it. here is the secretary of the treasury of the united states of america, who openly warns everyone. we will talk more about this later in the program. well, so that, as it were it was clear, which openly tells

everyone that there are some other countries that are trying to sit out of the united front. fight against those who tried to resist us and we warn everyone. we have rewritten everyone and everyone will be subjected. isolation, who is not ready to participate with us in the isolation of russia well, of course, this, of course, this, of course, is the triumph of values. here is that kind of kind progressive civilized simply toothless gnashing of the world into which we have been pushed for so long. and we are there and didn't get stuck. and now he shows us, well, guys, in fact, you don’t want to, well, well done, because we are like that and it will be so with everyone and there is a feeling that those who arranged it all. not today arranged not yesterday. and not even 8 years ago, when a war started here through ukraine. they want it to go on and on for some reason. i am very interested in these reasons, because here we are watching. already here, not at our borders, but on our

territory, we all remember the raid of ukrainian helicopters at the refinery, we all remember yesterday the shelling of a checkpoint in the kursk region. you and i know that yesterday the ministry of defense of the russian federation issued a fairly stern warning that if this continues, then listen to what will happen next. we see attempts of sabotage and strikes by ukrainian troops on objects on the territory of the russian federation, if such cases continue, then the armed forces of the russian federation will strike at the decision -making center, including in kiev. the army has so far abstained? by not very clear to me the reason, but it was said yesterday. and today, no one will convince me that this is a response to this warning and this is not a response from

kiev to this warning, such a decision is not made in kiev. today, the same helicopters fired at the belgorod and bryansk regions. and today it is no longer a checkpoint or an oil refinery, but it is already a residential sector. and these are the wounded among the citizens of the russian federation, the really wounded, not by shrapnel, slashed, but some really seriously wounded. and here we turn to the question of whether oleg viktorovich is also not yet, a red line or a red line is also another reason for some other one. and so to speak, the chinese warning. what, if well, if now after that you are something else, then we then question it is already she and, in fact, what they give us to understand and where she is being pushed with this and who and why. i will immediately say that i will speak from myself personally, because i do not make political decisions myself.