such a decision is not made in kiev today, the same helicopters fired at the belgorod and bryansk regions. and today it is no longer a checkpoint or an oil refinery, but it is already a residential sector. and these are the wounded among the citizens of the russian federation, the really wounded, not by shrapnel, slashed, but some really seriously wounded. and here we turn to the question of whether oleg viktorovich is also not yet a red line or the red line is also another reason for some other one. and so to speak, the chinese warning. what if, what if, what if now after that you do something else, then we then question it is already she and, in fact, what they give us to understand and where she is being pushed with this and who and why. i will say right away that i will speak from myself personally, because i do not make political decisions. i am not a military expert nor a military bandstand.

i speak like a political scientist. as a specialist in geopolitics, including myself, i have a very simple conclusion, which i draw from everything that is happening, the first conclusion is that we are always asking ourselves. but it could be done so that this war did not exist. wars, i repeat your phrase. and i masha told me a few days ago the answer. i now understand that there was not a single chance to avoid this war, and for one simple reason, because in this situation around the ukrainian peace was possible when all the participants in this conflict compromise, everyone is inferior in some way. everyone compromises in some way, and we , including donetsk luhansk, compromise, because they don’t need agreements in minsk, to be honest, damn it, but everyone had to

give in to something, and we kept saying, we are ready, but the other side did not accept any compromise in any options, and now 7 years. we say yes we are ready they say there are no compromises. and how can one agree under these conditions when one of the negotiators. well , we take it all collegial collective smell of buns, kiev of the parties says, and we will not compromise . come on war. so this is the first war. the second from your thesis is not a ukrainian war. this is completely clear now, no ukrainian is coming. she's not from february 24th. it has been going on since august, or better to say since december 1991. that's how the soviet union collapsed, this war began. i have a thesis. those guys who started it to remove russia from the political map of the world, they simply underestimated russia, if they had made some conclusions for themselves in time. it would

be much more difficult for us today, but the war has begun, then they don’t need us on the political map of the world. this is the second one. and if so, and now i directly answer your questions. if so, if the war is not to avoid, but the war must be won; the war cannot be; the russians know how to lose the warrior. losing the war in russia was one real loss. it was the russian-japanese war of tsushima that after that was after that there was a revolution of the fifth year 17 and that's it. subsequent, because the crimean war on the results. we still didn't lose. we lost the battle for sevastopol then, but we did not lose the crimean war. but the russian-japanese lost and then fell on russia in russia, you can’t lose wars. it 's the first second about the red lines, listen a it happens in a war when you do not cross the red lines, but your opponent does. and you say, well, no, he can’t, but i can’t do that; it doesn’t

happen in war; they shoot in war. uh, well, that's how i understand war is the blood of the victim's death - it's a tragedy. my father went through the whole war, he always said nothing more terrible than war, there is nothing in the world. these are the words of my father, who went through the entire great patriotic war from the first to the last day. therefore, war is such a terrible story. and if today in bryansk near kursk er, our compatriots are dying, and they do not hear us. i don't understand, i'm talking again. this is my point of view. i am not a military expert. i do not understand why we do not make it clear in return that for us the red line has already been transferred to our opponents. uh, uh, decision-making centers by a specific person who are personally responsible for this blood of the turchins, and poroshenko zelensky are war criminals. so they need to be treated according to the

laws of war, no immunity. in my opinion. they don't have it today and it won't be like that anymore history ordered today. this means that we must act according to the laws of history, and i agree with what you said, i completely agree with many of this, although there are many more questions that we will discuss here, i only add to your words when it all really began in the ninety-first year, when it was , when there was this kind of scrapping of how everything is arranged, and that very offensive began, against which we are now going on a counteroffensive. i will add just one fact. i don't even remember. uh, pyotr olegovich, you were already the host this program. and i was shouting something from the perch , or it was already me who was on the air. an expert from ukraine from krivoy rog, who more than once called our program a cotton coven, but nevertheless he was a very intelligent person in his own way. he said a phrase that he remembered. since then, i don’t remember what it was, maybe 16. maybe already the seventeenth. he said that what is happening now in ukraine is the payment

for the bloodless collapse of the soviet union because of the bloodless. it would seem the divergence of the slavic republics, which was not fair. that's what he said. and now, all these years later. we are returning to the fact that today i am looking at these photographs that are shown to me on the screens here. smoke over the residential sector in the bryansk region smoke over houses in the belgorod region. i look at all this and think, has it already crossed somewhere or is it still going on. that process. and how far he can and must go. well, now, until the victory, he will go through this process. and the fact that she will i have doubts. no, the fact that the military, uh, is so arranged that they do not say publicly what then they don't. i have great hopes for this too. therefore, if the ministry of defense

warns about strikes against decision-making centers such as shelling civilian villages, and in russia i think that such decisions will be made, where are these centers. what will be the impacts, i do not undertake to predict. i am not a military man, but that and why, but plans and gives commands to those actions, that’s what we are dealing with today, from which the ministry of defense warned yesterday and today are already inflicted somewhere harder hit. after all, people who do it, plan to implement it, they must have some kind of plan and some kind of goal, you understand it. so i think that in fact there are various plans. they change all the time depending on the requirements that they present. uh, military advisers. there, from britain and from other countries, they are ukrainians. and now they are experiencing such an emotional moment. and what, as if

they, i don’t know, should burn everything before the arrival of the russian army should inflict maximum damage, and the russian army they have this one enthusiasm for the help of the west with arms support, that means this biden, who is calling zelensky there. it all adds up to such military arrogance. ah, and when they say that in the war, oleg viktorovich says that, mmm, if one side does, then the other does. for now , russia i just want to pay attention. russia is conducting this operation with a peacetime army. that is, this is an army that is not mobilized, unlike ukraine. this is the first second russia saves civilian lives and because of this, partly losses and temp operations, as if slowed down, and so on. russia does not bomb or deprive ukraine of infrastructure. in

principle, it's easier to blow up six bridges, and that's it. everything is stuck. they have all the railroads. why do n't russia do this, because there is an opportunity for the civilian population to retreat, because it is a humanitarian catastrophe, otherwise it will actually be, in the meantime, russia has not attacked columns of military equipment. decommissioned military equipment, which is imported by european partners, the so-called you understand, but now we will discuss, you simply cannot strike at the colony with tanks and not disable the railroad tracks, but for humanistic reasons. we give an opportunity to those who want to escape from ukraine to escape. they are torn to the poles, let them go or burn cars to germany, let them go, but you understand this is a different attitude to military operations, a different attitude. if you want to the enemy, the russians do not fight like uh in this case. well, in my opinion. pretty tight, but the ukrainian units are behaving. well, it's just a different

mentality. listen, you say that ukrainian parts are behaving rather meanly. and at the same time, we understand that those ukrainian units and the box are behaving vilely. by the way, you still need to think about a division of this su, or some kind of national battalions, or these are some kind of generally incomprehensible barmaley to whom it gives away from somewhere. yes? they act mean, well wait a minute i started the program by being 8 years old. they behaved in the same mean way, because they were pecking at the elderly sector, trying to get into the residential sector. we knew all this in advance, now we say, well, they are so vile, they are swoop in. we knew that they were so vile, we went there and started this operation, knowing that this can no longer be tolerated, because they are vile even now. well, we don’t fight like that, and here are the humanistic considerations of the evacuation of the population. you know, i am a great humanist, but it seems to me that, in general, a special military operation has been going on for more than a month and a half. and everyone who wanted to leave, in theory, and everyone to whom, more precisely, everyone who was allowed

to leave, everyone has already left, because we are really at war with the army. that's for me it seems that this is the first time in history when the country's army wages war not to protect its population, but is closed by this population. well, alexey alekseevich go back to these tanks. look, here's the video. moons of tanks and not this video, which we now have on railway platforms. and a video about a video of a column that is from poland, uh, and there, so my account goes to a dozen, or even hundreds of t-72 tanks, which are not on any railway platforms, but just now the video is going on the ground to us this will show rides and rides and rides and rides, and i have a question. when pyotr olegovich speaks, and some military experts also say to me, well, you understand, this is such scrap metal. in general, on tracks, i have a question. if this scrap metal on tracks

for reasons of humanity and unwillingness to bomb bridges reaches somewhere here, then everyone who has ever participated in hostilities understands that on the scale of broad fronts, yes, this is scrap metal. but if this scrap metal rushes at you, and if it is upstairs, then zakhar immediately boiled zakhar understands, what is very scary, yes, if he has a doshka upstairs, and they have a doshko upstairs. and dshk. if anyone does not know, this is 14.5 mm. it is if it hits the leg, then the concrete destroys the leg, what is there to say the leg, then you understand what it is, and this question, that this scrap metal reaches there in such quantities, it is, of course, scrap metal. but this is dangerous scrap metal, and it is not clear why we are looking at the fact that they are trying to import it there and import it and import it. these are questions again about the red edges. as far as i understood the logic of the armed forces the russian federation is really a technique that is doubtful that it will be used in and so on, and therefore, as i understand it, i say that

a person is completely civilian and spend precision-guided ammunition on it. uh, well, the price-quality ratio, what is called yes , bridges, i understand that we still have to advance, as the military joke. exactly. i think that yes, we are talking about preserving high-precision munitions in order to use it against the equipment that nato is now importing and which they are planning still start. here uh, i think that the general staff uh, this plan uh, has drawn up and i really hope that it will be implemented. uh, as for uh hmm, that's the general logic in which the general staff operates. i see that they don't. in my opinion, in all cases i don’t remember, i don’t know, maybe i don’t know something about spontaneous actions. why don't we answer right away? why limit ourselves to warnings? i think that it is just a convenient, safe , accurate moment that you again save ammunition. you see, yes, because it is not finite. and when it ends with us, then i think that the

armament from nato, as they say, will trample on already in plain text. here. uh, as for the situation in europe and ukraine, you probably noticed that, well, there is such a site, the peacemaker is now europe is a collective peacemaker and this collective peacemaker was created and supported thanks to, uh, several million ukrainian refugees, who came there. i think that the big trouble for european civil societies is that they came there, they will see the face ukrainians. and i'm sure they'll be horrified. and here are these erased red lines, erased with an eraser, when you were talking about the red lines, they are already erased with an eraser, because the supply of weapons from nato, the supply of specialists from nato, uh, the delivery of staff officers to the territory of ukraine who lead the first military ukrainian operations. it's the red lines no longer exist. and therefore, perhaps we should now, i still advise, maybe we

should change the model of behavior. here's what colleagues described - this is a gentleman's way of waging a war, perhaps, we already need to move on to special methods of waging a war. and this, i think, is unpleasant to surprise our opponents, but i think the time has come. it’s clear well, about the fact that there are collective peacekeepers that they prepared a mess here, a very revealing example of what is in the minds of many of those who are fighting nato and who do not want these red lines. here you are, and the notorious governor of the nikolaev region, and whose facial expression, of course, changed a little after a rocket flew into the administration, but as if this kind of peculiar sense of humor, while he still had it. listen carefully to how this person talks about what is good news for him about what is happening today on the territory of ukraine, listen. good news, germany will help us

with tanks it turns out that german tanks will again drive across ukrainian soil to shoot at russian tanks, and we all have a good day and good. it's the same indicator. this is an indication of how shot down reflashed, and whether psychologically, or for money. i don’t know what, and i understand that there are a lot of them and in general, uh, history, despite the fact that they are urged on, even the old scrap metal t-72 and not only that. in general, you can choose such a rather complicated zakhar as a political scientist, as a writer, as a person who fought there, and from any position, how can i answer yes, and uh. don't misunderstand me, i can't pump myself up in this moment with some righteous anger, because the fact is that on september 3, 2014 in donetsk i for the first time he was engaged in the exchange of prisoners, and that's where they got off the bus, and the kharkiv uh, men, got out. well

, they were from kharkov, well, they were from chernigov from other neighboring regions, it is directly visible that they were not military men and it is clear that all the tortured, beaten, mutilated , broken ones were all shaved. here's to my native land. we were able to exchange them, and these ukrainian guys just went out of order. they are national battalions vushniki. they came out equal, lined up peacefully from a lemon, whom no one beat, did not torture. you highlighted everything looked perfect, and because the russians do not fight like that, and it was clear that they were already motivated, that they were already evil enemies. they are ready for any slaughter. they don't regret anything. do not need. here we have just seen this story there. yes, first of all, i certainly don't trust any people. on your knees and you don't have to put anyone on their knees. well, if they themselves fall there, maybe they don’t need to be raised, but it’s not necessary, it’s clear that they are not afraid, unlike our guys, who are in the final husband, they can fill up, they can be killed directly. not immediately here. it really scary, you know not to be afraid. it can even be sincere, but it is not necessary to generalize. they've been around for a long time

, but they look so long ago. they have long been some kind of such as these most brutalized, there are guys who are fighting, they will sweat because they are motivated, because they believe in this idea. and we need to sort of get into it. here, well, every time, as it were, but here, just about. but yes, damn it, yes, you already understand all this for a long time, uh, in my opinion, of course, not only the military situation needs it. it's like, well in order to understand this story in a long-range ride, of course . uh, in this studio there in general, everything is fine there, yes. and a few other studios are also fine, but in general, we have a war in our e russia country, it has not switched to this mode and we have it. i see, we keep mine. we have a peacetime army there . we're trying to sort of generate citizens, but i, uh, that's not a terrible prediction. this is a normal prediction. i assure you that we will have to pass as a whole society, because one army cannot pass into this stage, as in afghans and the rest there, as if they had fun there, as it was in chechnya. here we went there, and then a

holiday here blue light. here everyone in feathers dances, dances, and sings, and until the president arrived, he did not drink this glass. until that started, guys. this is our common history. we will decide here in the north caucasus with the whole country - this is the responsibility of the whole country when this topic is turned on. and suddenly it worked. there is metaphysics in this. the history of the metaphysics, the society of the metaphysics of the people, the metaphysics of the country, but for now we have. well, so and so. well, how would the rating support here not how to upset anyone else there, but gestures of good will. that's it. it's unfinished. we 'll have to come to this through sacrifice through torment, that 's all. and you don't have to be amazed. they will the further than, perhaps, the more they will shoot. they are already shooting. why are we surprised that you didn’t reach the point, they will stand to rostov anywhere to voronezh? forgive me lord, god forbid that this should happen. they will try to get on e, all our peaceful homes have been trying for a long time and for a long time, although they have long wanted to go to red square, why be surprised, but when you say they, you understand perfectly well that they shoot where they shoot and maybe they will shoot further,

because they understand that they are the tip of a certain spear, they believe in it in this sense, too, when you talk about the need for mobilization. and i completely agree with you, just as i agree with you, that it is still not enough everywhere where it should have been for a long time. we understand that this should already be mobilization not for a special military operation in ukraine, but for something much bigger and much more severe and then it should be named somehow. well, name you , now you go out to the whole country, you say, brothers and sisters. nobody loves us, and the salvation of ourselves is our own business, our enemies. who yes, this is clear to everyone. this is for many of these words globalism, euro-atlanticism together with two ten languages. this is russian poetry, globalism is impossible to aim and it is impossible to launch anything. no, you don't need a belly. the thing is, i have some experience there. peter probably has experience moving around europe it’s clear that these finns and swedes. they were

raped by america, it’s understandable that why macron or pan are trying so hard to somehow wag russia too, because they have 40% of the french, they secretly love putin and we will now say that all of europe is our enemy. let's wet them, no matter how it is not necessary to destroy cities. and so it is not necessary. we have. here is the old man. this groovy one, as if he, of course, is interested in us all killing each other as much as possible, but not all of europe is the political establishment of europe absolutely no matter how sovereign, he is led by him, therefore the enemy, how do we call it? well , there is no need to declare the whole world. this is very important, what actually is. this is the definition of what we are opposed to. by the way, it seems to me, zakhar, that you have found a very correct topic, that partly there is no mobilization, because mobilization is in television studios, because the west is advancing. and we need it, as it were, very convenient, but when you need to ballize mobilization, in fact. you have to be specific, i'm mobilizing because well, given the scale of the challenges we

now face and in general, apparently, the grandiose plans of the opponents who threw this challenge to us are not very enough, there is no feeling that we have mobilization the level of mobilization of society corresponds to the challenge and scale of the tasks ahead. i absolutely agree with this. when we are now, by the way, waiting for the inclusion. at any moment, we can stop. but actually there is a connection. it’s just that now they used it on the internet, because alexander borodai it is located right here in the area where it is held. this is our special operation alexander hello and my question is obvious to you, you know it in advance, so just tell me everything you have to tell right away. and what do you think it is necessary to tell and let the guys behind you not hide. i don't care. i see it's not scary, please. well, actually, look. you just left for russia and we are just moving, just now the gravity behind the children's people's republic in the direction of moscow, uh, the situation in the republic

complex. as you understand how, in principle, it has been almost all this time, but mariupol ends almost everything. that is , their watch has become. there is still a little left, but soon it will be completely. i am sure of this, as for donetsk, the difficult situation with water and it is quite obvious that now the main events are moving from the south of the republic of the donetsk people's republic to the north, donbass and not only to the north of donbass, but of course, to the area of ​​such a city as raisins, that is, and it is rather obvious that the most serious battles will be there because we need to surround the group, because we need to liberate severodonetsk and slavyansk in order to get water. and a question that i am often asked and i will redirect it to you every day. we hear about

more shelling. uh, donetsk about the shelling of the dpr , we hear the same names that we heard before for 6-7-8 years and people ask a question. and why can't it be already now, when it's there? why can't it all be picked out by some serious means. well , because right in front of donetsk is very good the fortified positions of the enemy and i remind you that the enemy received reinforcements all this time, and when our troops left chernigov from near kiev from the kiev chernigov region, the enemy got the opportunity to transfer his troops to reinforce the donbass group. and this reinforcement was quite serious, and it is characteristic that they transported their troops by rail along the lines of rail communication. and since we have a special operation on our side, we are the lines of the railway messages, we do not bomb, we do not destroy railway junctions, and they calmly transport their troops by

rail. it seems to me that this is a practice that is somehow necessary, taking into account the current situation in general, taking into account the fact that a total war is being waged against us, not extermination against the russians, this is the ideological goal of our opponents. here it is with this in mind. i believe that this situation can be reconsidered. thank you very much alexander, we will discuss it in the studio right now. how to revise it, based on what to revise it. thank you very much. good road back. hope we meet. eh, in this studio we will also talk about this in more detail with you. good luck to you. thank you. well, in fact, here is what alexander borodai said. and you understand that alexander faradaev left from there, where the talk about the lack of mobilization in general in relation to what is happening is perceived, well, even more acutely than when we are here, but we are standing here, i mean mobilization. uh, first of all, such a psychological one, yes, after all, he is openly

it said, although very carefully, that since we are being waged an all-out war. and we are conducting a special military operation, then, please, well, it seems to me, i agree with zakhar that it is happening very slowly. this is the realization that everything will never be the same as before, neither with ukraine, nor with europe, nor with russia, that a serious change is underway that will change the life of every person, you see. we have people, but in general a person is arranged. so, of course, look at the horrors and especially the horrors of war there is suffering civilian population. well, it's just that there are not enough nerves and they say in sushi turn off the tv. already. come on, well, it’s okay dumplings, we’ll eat calmly, but still everyone will have to make their choice, it won’t work. so you closed your eyes somewhere and covered yourself with a pillow. it passed you by. eh, this piece of life. you woke up and everything. like again, it means, uh, delivery of all these bike paths, car sharing, all

this, as if again, in the previous mode, this will not happen, and i want to say that, uh, in big cities , young people of the generation who have already grown up with 2000, which does not even remember this chechnya there, yes, which zakhar also remembered. but they generally do not understand this for them. and what is it. and how, how it is, and here is the country, but it would seem, but look, and we are for peace, we are against it. and that's why, you know, i read the other day, there were interviews with young people who left, but in the early days because they were afraid of a nuclear strike. well, like a nuclear strike , wow! we will leave now, or we will die out or we will sit in armenia in georgia well, somehow it will subside further, we will orient ourselves. and so they say. well, uh you know, and we decided to come back because, well, first of all, mom is sitting with the cat. it ruins her mother's life. here, and, secondly, i looked at

vkusvill my favorite cottage cheese. he means not 50 rubles. a 54. well, you can come back, you know, that is, when they are compared today with some kind of white emigration, which is all the same. well, she lost the civil war and left with the idea. wow , those people. they just left in order to maintain their spiritual comfort and, to be honest, there is no sympathy for them, but for the guys who are now a in bad berets they run through the mud and fight for our motherland, and soon they will start running in berets on the green, yes, which will complicate the work of helicopters and aviation. and now for them, for them, there is both respect and a feeling that here they are the future elite of the country. not all these people with ambience, who picked up buzzwords there in skolkovo and juggle juggling with anglicisms. today finational times articles are being written, and to those guys who defend their

country with deeds, you understand this and the future elite is what russia will deal with on the territory ukraine on the territory of russia, you understand? well, look, i see that aleksey alekseevich does not agree with you on everything, but now he will say what he does not agree with, but you have been talking for now, but you yourself knocked me out on the question that i, frankly , wanted then, after the program, in the dressing room , discuss with you because he is, as it were, global. well, since you brought it up yourself. and you said a very important thing. that's about those who want everything to be so to speak, returned somewhere the former there about articles there about costumes and so further, but see any war. by and large , it is for the world not for the world. in the sense of a state without war, but for some idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthe other world for how it should be, yes, and uh, i appeal to you with special trepidation, since you are a descendant of the person who wrote war and peace. and so we more or less understand everything about the war, but

we do not understand everything about peace. why because those who lead it all against us they formulate. we are doing all this so that the world becomes like this we are here we are here we are here fence after fence russians, whose economy is torn to shreds by russians who cannot go anywhere, because maidans and russians are jumping there, who are slowly suffocating there, and we are erasing them, as if from a map from a map of the world, and we will tolerate them. yes, we can say about never even that, but they have an idea of ​​what kind of world they staged this war, in which that and we have an idea of ​​what kind of world we imagine . as a result of this war. we have it, we need to mobilize for something, for which we mobilized in the forty-first year, we understood by that we are mobilizing, and now under what kind of world artyom, this question is extremely difficult, i will try. i 'll try to answer, maybe me.