tv [untitled] April 18, 2022 3:00am-3:31am MSK
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never ask why why? remember the myth of sisyphus. yes, after we sent him your eeg. none of the guests returns with the ocean, some strange things began to happen on the surface , islands began to form. first one. a day later, a few more. would you like to say that you understood from us? yes that you at us there was a hope. and how old are you? 52 what? how long have you been there? didn't you see my profile? listen after how you lived here for so many years. do you clearly
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feel your connection with life there, and you are a lover of extreme questions, i'm afraid that soon you will ask me about the meaning of life. wait, be ironic. this is a banal question. when a person is happy, the meaning of life and other eternal topics rarely interest him? they should be asked at the end of life. and when will this end come? we don't know, so we're in a hurry. and you take your time, the happiest people are those who have never been interested in these damned questions. the question is always the desire to know, and to save simple human truths already secrets secrets of happiness, death of love, maybe you're right, but
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try not to think about all this. and thinking about it is like knowing the day of your death. not knowing this day practically makes us immortal. well , well, anyway, my mission is over. what 's next? return to earth. little by little, everything will go back to normal, even new interests of acquaintance will arise. but i can't give myself to them completely. never have the right to refuse, even from the imaginary possibility of contact with this ocean, to which my race has been trying for decades to stretch the thread of understanding. stay here among the things and
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objects that we both touched, which still remember our breath in the name of what? for the hope of her return but i do not have this hope. is the only thing i have to wait? what to expect? don't know. are you tired of new miracles? i feel great. i think it's time for you to return to earth. you think so?
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do happiness depend on age and how to feel harmonious, do not pay attention to the numbers in passport. of course, i think that, like many of you last year, together with the heroes of the program dedicated to the book age of happiness, we were just trying to figure out if old age has any advantages over youth and is it true that with retirement, life only takes on new colorful shades, the heroes of today's program will only continue this topic, because they are convinced that after 50 the most magical age comes. fulfillment of desires freedom of choice and, of course, movement. instead of an apartment in moscow motor home instead of a stable job, search for new routes and interesting places, they are sure that
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after 50 you need to do what you really like to realize your dreams and not be afraid of anything after retirement. they have come up with their own way to travel practically for free ever since. they go wherever they want, and when they want, don't spend money on tickets and hotels. in addition, a free life provides them with everything they need and allows them not to work. they are convinced that the person chooses. how can he live in retirement watching tv on the couch or explore the world looking out the window of your own motorhome. alone with all pensioners travelers and adventurers victor and svetlana zhukov hello victor we are glad to welcome you to our studio. ah. i'm sorry that my very first question will be, maybe not very delicate for a woman, but since we have such a topic about age, about how you can meet him, is it sad or joyful, and that
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means traveling or at home on the couch. how old are you? i'm 57. so all of you admit it yourself. and how much we will torture you, they seem to have marked 55. and how many years have you retired? a woman at 50 at 50 leaves, in my opinion, i am 54 a year before retirement. well, approximately. yes, yes, we so simply developed circumstances, after all, but held out. well, yes, there, in my opinion, there is a 45 pension, and there, in my opinion, i still worked a little as a civilian and that’s it. wow, let 's go free. yes, a clear conscience is what they call it. that is, it was not a sad prospect for you. she was, as it were, chosen yes, conscious, yes, and you have never been scared at all. the thought of old age. no. now, if we thought so, then, probably, we did not choose this way of life. did nothing
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happen if we were afraid of old age, it seems to me that this is one secret, how can you be afraid of what? naturally, it is necessary to find some charms in this, and charm is freedom, it costs a lot. what is for you? yes, he doesn’t know, and god forbid, it means, i understand that you, in fact, are trying all the time on wheels, as it were, the more the better try how long ago did this choice happen to you on wheels. well, as soon as we met, that's what happened. how long ago met 30 years ago, he served in the orenburg region, a lieutenant of the classic, simply and got acquainted. we are in a rest house near moscow. he is here on vacation, uh, well, no matter how it is, how they got together right away, how they decided to get married, but the most important thing is that he bought his first car and from there from the orenburg region. came here. well , how to get married, but i no longer wanted
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him to drive alone somehow, maybe i was worried and i flew there for my fiancé to make this journey with him in a zhiguli car and the moscow area arrived. yes, there in the orenburg region and from there. we went to moscow with him, that is, they were already reported there, first yes, and then the zhiguli. and so on in this corral to moscow , yes, and so we understood that it was pleasant to spend time like that, that is, we realized that this did not bother us. and we like two of these movements. you see, in general, he likes cars, likes to drive, something very important in this sense, i was lucky. but it doesn’t bother me, i like the lack of some kind of comfort , i don’t like the change of impression that you do you see a lot? that is, even if there is an opportunity to go somewhere by train, let's say you have a rest in russia. we will go by car anyway, because we like the impression that it happens on the road, you can see on the road, you usually know how people have such an idea about the road and cars. yes
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, oh, on the contrary, christmas trees, sticks, well, yes, i have to go by car. this, god forbid, means the wheel will definitely break through. so his oil will leak out and think, then it happened. and, that is, in the sense of materially. and if you think that everything will be fine with you, then you are from the city of moscow just without any problems. julia , even if she breaks through, it happened. to the zalupsky sea, this is practically the russian bermuda triangle, then in some village there is a person who has a spare tire, just for our wheel this happens all the time. tell me, please, here, who is victor by profession, i understand. well, that is, we do not specify, but it is clear that the military specialist, so to speak, is the guiding convenience. you were. well, i can also say that it was a classic before i met him she worked as a soviet engineer. after they safely left with him to serve in the orenburg region, but another child was born , they returned, when they returned to moscow, he entered the academy, then it was already a new career. i went to a publishing house and started working for journalists, then as an editor, and already i finished my career
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as the editor-in-chief of the magazine and you left this job. yes, yes, they said, no, no, it’s not necessary, anyway, here’s the editor-in-chief. yes, that's all exactly. here is a very busy trail. this is true, yes. here i am like after retirement, there you could go there. on a civilian career, but realizing that when you go to some kind of leadership position. yes, i understand that this is a responsibility for people. this is responsibility for the job. this is responsibility. for this i. it's like, let's say already drunk. yes , i wanted to be responsible for myself. seems like it should. yes, it seems like, well, what to do, yes, what to do, but on the other hand , i really didn’t want to. that's the question i have, you know, that's a modern man. he lives without in the grip of fear of responsibility for uh, tomorrow of what i now make such a
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decision not to work out there to satisfy pensions. and suddenly it won't be enough. and suddenly you want to - well, how would you, as men, not be afraid of what kind of future you have there tomorrow waiting well, in principle, yes, of course, on the one hand, as if you understand that money still has to come from where , yes? well, here. what's good is that we are, as it were, pensioners, yes, i have a military pension. well, quite good more than civilian yes, the light is also, as it were now a pension, that is, two pensions, in principle, given that you will starve russian, how will you live? yes, that's what you will eat, so to speak, where it is enough. this may be the main fear. what if you suddenly don’t know yourself, you’ll starve there, something is all the same, the pension removes, whatever it is, but it’s not quite small. that is, as it were, the main aspect is that, no matter how good the pension is, that is, there would be a smaller pension, well, something we would be looking for more opportunities to increase money, we think. so
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well, here, all the same, not everyone goes beyond the limits of this fear. now i understand what you are talking about. what do you think, what qualities do you need to have in order to expand this framework, so to speak, to have a good wife like yours? yes the good wife explained why like this? you know, here you are at the core of everything. i, too, took a long time . here after the next issue of the magazine. i'll find it now. i don't want to start any more in the cape. that was what to travel? and so that at the same time some more money, so that needed something. well, naturally the strength of his profession. i thought that it was necessary to write to shoot a video, to offer some magazines everything and in fact . here with this idea. i left. i think it will work. it was a leap of faith. and that's why i'm a good wife, because you see, they offered to make a civilian career completely unknown to him. and i figured that a person comes to the team. he works. he needs to educate himself to gain knowledge to make a career, what he will face this in the current
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conditions of competition, which in fact, then will affect his health, but because it's here at this age the asphalt is completely new. here and there, indeed again there is something to obey somehow. so i said no, you see, we don’t need to live somehow. health is more expensive. don't need this. we 'll figure something out for you. so and so, what did you save up for? the only thing, as i understand it, is to improve the car, yes, and to the case. yes, that's right, what 's inside her. well, it means there is. uh, the main thing is that there is a toilet, uh, the shower is hot and cold water. sleeping place with extra bed, gas stove m refrigerator with freezer. uh, so you can tell the guests, yes, that there is a battery. yes, there is a solar battery to show the siege, we have dill parsley in pots to pluck it with us. no, there i always say in stores, like this, we water six cages. uh-huh the awning that pops up
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you see, it's not a dream. that is, in fact. this is the result. uh, the result, as they say , dreams really do come true, if that's what it's about. thoughts that you will get with time, here you see on and the realization of this dream. how many years has gone by? so much has gone? as a result, such a combination of circumstances also becomes favorable and either people go to the meeting that this is happening, although according to some objective mathematical data , financially, it could not grow together, that is, it works. and you mean, even at the age of 50, for the first time , stalin skied about 5b. grateful to the comrade who pulled us out in the elbrus voucher. they pulled out a military base there and we immediately got up and everything. that is, yes, you know this, everyone who gets up everyone sits down, keep in mind if you are afraid it’s better not to get up for the first time and immediately plant it to attract very mountains. this descent, this wind, this adrenaline,
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a person needs to think about people, they say, if you are afraid, don’t get up well, how would you think that, in general, uh, so to speak, there are such daredevils who are many of them, or rather such daredevils who are about to risk this something. try something new. come on at night. of course i have people want adrenaline, there is a need and someone decides on something, someone with a parachute, and by the way. adrenaline works too. i read somewhere that adrenaline is needed so that the body does not age. i think it's true that life after fifty has a taste of the taste of some kind of fresh air. very those who are afraid of age. i don't know what old age is, when you retire, you know? victor and svetlana zhukova in general, i have the impression that, in general, this is a way of traveling more characteristic of young people. well
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that is, students who want to save money throw off together rent, there is this motorhome and so they ah, you were faced with looking at you with some such surprise they say. oh, and you, too, are traveling in russia, maybe they ask, and there, in the pension of motorhomes, all, probably, pensioners, it seems that this is a whole movement, but you won’t see young people, that is, well done. how is your son more in comfort, yes comfort, or they work more with cats with their dogs. and take out the bikes. and just like us anyway, let's go. here we met many. there are such lyrical pictures, when you are two cars, one pair the second here they go to the seashore, they have some kind of accordion to play accordions and sing. it happens that they are enjoying life, it's true. and now you are also on bicycles. you say we always take bicycles with us.
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gain some experience, looking around , what people are doing at wherever we stand, we untie. and whether it is to take a steam bath, as from the capital on a bicycle, you will see more, whether some coast. yes, but here you are, knowing that you will come to visit us, you decided to talk with young guys of 18 years old about how they represent themselves. e your fiftieth birthday there or after 50 years, what do they think about this topic. let's listen to them. you are over 50 you are retired and a writer my books are published in russian english and french i play with my grandchildren in the park on a rollercoaster children squeal and the era of hooray and i hitchhike through russia kazakhstan mongolia with my children. earn enough money to make my job become. well, a hobby, not a means of survival and hope to devote more time to the family to travel. maybe i
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think that i will devote most of my free time to myself to engage in some kind of self-development, read a lot and do things that there was no time when i was young. what is possible after 50, but what is impossible in 20 a lot? sweet now, in general, everything is possible, it seems to me that everything you want can be done at the age of 50. uh, you can’t be a maximalist in the army and look for the meaning of life. it’s time to stop looking at 30, when you realize that you can’t look for it. it's impossible to find 50 you can't wear miniskirts for non-men, nor women need to absolutely calmly go jump on a trampoline, and at 20 years old you will have braids looking at you 50 watering you. can you be naked on the street? everything is the same as at 20, but at 20 you don’t know what to be afraid of after 50, the worst thing is
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losing touch with your family. i think to be afraid of the fact that nothing. in general, he did not achieve even 50 years. in vain passed not to have time to do something, not to say i had a dream of becoming an astronaut, and all i did was not see half the world as a security guard, probably, a decrease in the old-age pension, that is, the old age of the soul. that's what i'm afraid of, i want to always stay young in the summer up to two hundred what you should be afraid of, after 50 it will turn out. i do not think so. it's amazing how close you are. i would say with this generation it's time to jump on the trampoline, the girls will look. i noticed that you nodded your head very much when one of the girls remarkably said that at 50 everything is possible the same as at 20 only at 20 you don’t know this, really, here.
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