nothing more, and after fifty, the worst thing is to lose your family. i think to be afraid of the fact that nothing. in general, he did not achieve even 50 years. it was in vain that they did not have time to do something, and not to say that they dreamed of becoming an astronaut. and only there the guards cannot see half of the world, probably, the reduction of the old-age pension, that is, the old age of the soul. so i'm afraid of this, i must want to always remain young letok up to two hundred what you should be afraid of, after 50 it will turn out. i do not think so. it's amazing how close you are. i would say with this it’s time for a generation to jump on the girl’s trampoline, because no one will watch coffee anymore. i noticed that you nodded your heads very much when one of the girls remarkably said that at 50 you can do the same thing as at 20, only you don’t know this at 20, really. it is necessary now, and young people, to think that they

need to strive. here is something to choose already think about it and lay. at one time we laid, as it were, the foundation we thought that we can’t go to the motorhome not so simply yes, we changed it and you will see it has always been this idea that when we have freedom so that we could travel easily. well, that is, it was such a goal that evenly walked, there was me and the car. well, and so on, that is, but everyone should see for himself, while he is young, he works completely. and what he needs by this time may be, and yet he strives for freedom, because yes, if there is freedom of movement in time. it seems to me that this is the basis of happiness, as if here is the freedom of movement in space in time. yes, unlike those young guys with whom we talked, who are basically not afraid of old age don't think about it. maybe even, and there are other young people who sometimes think about their, uh, age, so to speak, is frightening, and one of them was,

uh , a photographer from st. she was just about everything when she was, and became interested in this topic, that she even conducted some kind of her own investigation, made some such an art project, made documentaries dedicated to this. now we want to contact her. hello julia hello. i just wanted to, uh, ask you, why, in fact, at such an early age at 23 years old. you were so frightened, perhaps, by old age that you became interested in it and decided, uh, to somehow explore it. when i was 23 i graduated from university, and university in my opinion, this is a turning point for many young people, because for many years you prepare for something . first you go to school to go to university, then you want to go to university to get a diploma and you don’t think about what will happen next. and so, when i graduated from university, i realized that a lot of things are behind me, and i don’t know what lies ahead and i’m already 23 years old. and then it seemed to me that i was old, that is, they updated the problem

and realized that you are old, that you need to deal with this issue. and it was such a shock for me. i understood, lord, looking at the first- year students who came to our university, that they are 17. and i'm already 23 and what i have achieved at this moment. it was such a strange state and then i talked to those who were 30 and they told me what are you, we are old you're only 23 then thought. and what do people feel at 60 and 70. yes, i talked to those who were 17 and a friend told me, what are you, a girl , it’s too late for me to start making music, i’m already 17. and now i have this question what is old age, and i realized what it is when you think it's too late for you to do something. and so i did some research. we conceived a documentary film. uh, and decided to address two audiences. the first is youth. ask them what, how do you

see yourself when you are old and ask the most diverse elderly people themselves, to find out what it is to be elderly. what conclusion did you actually draw from this study speaking with one and the other audience. well, we concluded that, in principle, there is no such unconditional state as old age, then this is insanely subjective, that it very much depends on the person, firstly, it depends on the attitude towards oneself, because some of those people, which he said saved up for two things alone. on a trip while others saved up for a funeral and we were at the same age at the same age, and we realized how important it is to feel that you have a lot ahead of you, that is, to motivate yourself on your own. photo session, as i understand it, when you asked young guys what they dream about? what they dream of becoming. and so to speak, they portrayed this dream, as i understand it, people are well over 50. eh, why is that? well, i

wanted to take pictures. about this, i realized that older people, as a rule, do not become models, that is, in society there is such a cult of the beauty of youth, as if, well, this is the only thing worth striving for, and i knew that this was not so, because i see my grandmother and then i found exactly older models and interviewed my surroundings. what do you want to be in 50 years and we all then were about 20 years old, respectively , it turned out that at 70 years old. they want to be. that's how it was displayed. it's in photography. there , someone goes in for yoga, boxing, someone rides a motorcycle. well, that is, these are the most optimistic assumptions last question to you. so where do you want to be now to 50 years from now, but i would like to keep going. i have been involved in charitable projects for the last 5 years and would like to dedicate it. here's your old age all the way to it. a pleasure, but for

me it is a pleasure. oh travel. travel, of course. in general, i never think that this is something out of the ordinary and that we all need to travel and the elderly, of course, also yul, and if old age at all, that's what you say about this. i think that there is old age, and there is old age. with staying in old age is just like aging. and for some, unfortunately, old age comes to him. thank you very much yulechka good luck to you. they know the secret to a happy life. wouldn't it work out if we were afraid of old age, it seems to me that this is one of the secrets of retirement is not a sentence, in principle, given the fact that we are so you will starve. they were not afraid to change their lives, how can you be afraid of what? naturally. gotta find it some charms, and charm is freedom victor and svetlana zhukova relate to the fact that you

took a risk like that. okay, you are brave, but there is someone nearby who, like the older generation, is always afraid to advise another. yes you? yes, like my mother, thank god, you see, she chewed, she was alive on both, perhaps women, and therefore this is all, this. yes. and my friends were also supportive. and my son was supportive. well, the son is also an adventurer from us scored a little bit. and by the way , if you are such avid, travelers from the moment you met. how is the son? he is with us so traveled in the car in the car. starting with the fact that he was still in my stomach, he was traveling all the way there for the seventh eighth month. he started walking in a car somewhere in the chelyabinsk region , he didn’t have to walk in a car, but he went out and took it to the grass, like to sit. he got up and went somewhere, it was like this then, of course, they took him around russia, they always took him, he somehow started to swim with us and that’s it. that's somewhere out there in some lake, ah, who were passing by. yes, he well, he

turned a little into something else. here travel from then on by car without comfort, he no longer wants. now he travels somewhere to book there, a hotel and so on. here is my difference. yes, he is just like that , uh, yes, but these impressions have led to the fact that he is a good photographer. here is the thrust. firstly, he rides a bike a lot and with a camera on bolshoi, maybe yes, but he rides a bike from the camera and takes good pictures. but what about your maternal fears, for example, no, they were not included. oh, the child will get sick on the way. oh where are we going. oh, i'll catch a cold, oh, a good remedy, and i'm picking up a bag of all kinds of medicines only to never use them again . when you take them, you never need them, as soon as you take a pill, you need it, i take a bag, it's always a ritual and glory. we do not open it to god. uh-huh tie it solemnly. yes, even for the summer warm clothes, yes.

these are not signs that there are no frosts. yes, this is a very good sign. listen, if suddenly someone wants to go, then the pills are with you, so that they are not useful in the summer, so that frosts do not happen, you need to take warm ones with you, and in winter swimming trunks. well, let's get warm. yes, really, seriously. yes we really lie just in case we we all go at the beginning of april. we take skis and swimsuits with us, because at the beginning of april we will ride somewhere in the valps. and we live downstairs, of course, not in a hotel there, but the parking lot below is warm, and there is still snow after we ski. after that we descend into the valley. uh -huh k among the earth well, plus or minus there, even if it's cold, we already swim there anyway , then tell me, the sale of the moscow apartments and buying in the moscow region closer to the mountain slope, just outside moscow, but some kind of house, apparently, yes, i understand, this is also adrenaline no, this is a

dream that was thought about for a very long time. everyone gathered, periodically returned to opportunities, no matter how they went. we just looked in the moscow region, chose without any means for this, you sold the moscow apartment, because you did not have the opportunity to purchase, so to speak, if it was and or or or or or what, limited funds and yet, so to speak, a pension. it the main thing is that you didn’t have, of course , we didn’t have any money and an apartment there, with which, uh, we got it from an aunt in the world. yes, we gave it to our son. as a matter of fact, yes, they themselves bought money there, well, there. it’s good for us, brother, he sort of helped us with the light, as if he bought a slice of an apartment here, and we actually bought a house with this money. well, people do this, but if there is a moscow apartment, they value it. they try everything there. well, somehow, perhaps, it can be handed over, but the main thing is not to lose, but if

it’s not possible, just like we did, when we sold it, we lived there, so my mother was in the country, we lived in my mother’s apartment, which means there are some things there, so there were some things in the town in my mother’s apartment. yes, in the apartment for six months. we lived like this until we were looking for the most pierce. as a matter of fact, here it is, of course. we found that we didn’t worry about it, that we wanted to sincerely understand, if a person likes life closer to nature near moscow, why is he humiliated from moscow? i understand who goes to work every day. that's all. well, you can not be afraid in any way, the acquisition of an apartment. i worked for her. worked worked. how can i get along with her ? well, you’re your quality of life, you move there for you better where can you say that in general i’m not attached to any material things, so to speak. what can't be done there ? oh car nobody, huh? i want us to

now look at another plot of a hero, who, perhaps, is similar to you in that he believes in the same way that no material wealth and social status, even status, does not matter according to compared to the pleasure that one can get from life. let's listen to him. this is alexander galitsky. i'm 58 years old. uh, and somewhere a little short of fifty years. i radically changed my life and i regret only one thing that i didn’t do. it's before. he worked as a graphic designer and was in charge of a large department. uh deserved to be a director at a large firm that was engaged in the release of computer training programs. well, i’m such an independent person by nature, i decided that it’s probably more correct just to to arrange your life. because i want to no

now, as it were, if she had been for many years, yes, and there was written there the director, the director there is everything. and when you call the phone you mean like there's a big firm behind you behind your back. yes, and you imagine yourself, respectively, with such a noble bass, when you become the leader of the circle because of the director, this is a kind. probably such a shock. i would like you to take a small part of this. i say he is 13 years old hammer came out. i'm probably beaten inside too. outside only so strong friends when i was asked for the first time to try it . that is, i was working, then they told me, come on, try, take one group of old people i said that this is complete nonsense in general, it's like, firstly, these people are old people, old people, uh,

sharp instruments, in general, people who ca n't do anything. they can't see, they can't hear, wasn't very excited about the idea until i tried it. what happened to you? what's up with your owl? he is one-eyed. these people are like my friends, and they come here of their own free will. i decided that i also come here of my own free will and come to play, because there is no more foolish work in the world . that's why i like her very much. i had a case when two old men got into a fight because somehow i didn't make it in time. so, let's give everyone some kind of their own business, seat them, give them a tool, so that they start working and one leaves, and the other remains and tells me. i didn't want to come, why did i come. and this is the story

she is on it, as it were, a little too, because especially if he really, he comes sometimes , because he, uh, because he wants life to go on, the way it was a week ago and show himself that it's all right that i'm there, so to speak, despite the fact that i didn't sleep there at night and feel bad, she became. came from this man 95 years old. such a little boy now let's see what he's doing. acceptance of his soul, as if to take this soul here to her and tell him how it is inside. yes, of course, you came right and in general everything is fine. now you and i will continue and life goes on. and if i knew how, for example, to knit with knitting needles, they knitted him, if i knew how, i don’t know there to say to do something from cotton wool. we would

make from cotton wool. it doesn't really matter what i do with them. so let's paint. the face of the art of living, just, probably, 50 is still some kind, well, more of a psychological milestone, because it seems like fifty dollars, yes, but on the other hand, besides the advantages, indeed, i don’t see any disadvantages. bye. wanted to say what i remembered thought. she just arrived. we are also really working. this is the idea for another trip. we are going to meet with masses of people. everyone wants to talk to the russians. after all, we have a car, there is a russian flag, all things are a russian car. she is a supermarket here, everything is everywhere with a mass of people, and we tell them everything about russia, how she comes to

visit us in the car. we sit and talk. and this is what i mean, this is it, work, whatever you call it, probably, whatever you want, but in fact it is she may be small, but people will learn something. and yet you don’t see that, it turns out, russian pensioners are also traveling, that they also have them, then we also have the same life here, which we are not wild with them, by the way, uh, i would like to touch on some practical issues, but regarding how you travel around europe, firstly, i wanted to know, but this summer you were in europe right? with the crisis at the end of june only returned and somehow you manage to calculate your budget. yes, yes, even you claimed how it could be. is not now, not up to date information that life when traveling you sometimes manage to be more frugal than, uh, in a sedentary lifestyle, so why well frugal that here it is already our home. we got out and sat in it. all the same people went that here we

go to the grocery store, which is the same there, all clothes. you don't even buy no wrong. it happens sometimes. the same. you know, there are markets there. she'll meet every country in italy there in france pro markets where they sell stocks of new stuff. it's a nice thing, it's very cheap there, you can there and french women italians graze dress. here, if there are cases that you simply notice , you calculate that there is no. no, no, there is no way some days are a plus. we are not driving on freeways, where there is none. there would be only one car in life, here, and we to not pay. naturally, we don’t drive for a toll road, but we save money in everything we drive. the same autostranili, but they go through the towns. and there, first of all, you see this life, what they live in, and here you can meet anything you like, even if it’s a rural holiday, even if there are such markets and if on occasion, we need something, we take it, but this is at such a low price that it is very profitable in practice. they only need money for gas. and if we have enough money accumulated, we can

afford to travel once, we drove around the perimeter of france. in general, a maximum of 12,000 km per trip. yes, we had such money, then it was 60,000 rubles. well, here it is. and if this is not enough budget, it has not rolled down, then you can not go far. you can go to germany in bavaria or along the rhine, mileage, this is the most, and there it is europe small ends there are small it is, that is there already but with parking lots. free for camping here are those that have special parking, or what we try in camping, first of all, campsites. they uh are in beautiful places. well, you have to pay for them too. ugh naturally. that is, it is somewhere where with your house a terrace in the center of the city center of the city, of course, the whole charm is to find, so as not to cross out forbids now. i know that the camper is not allowed. if this sign is not there, then the police may not have to come to you, that we are always in we are going to the center. moreover, such a feature should be called in on friday evening, when

weekend parking in all european capitals and large cities comes to paris for free, uh, at one time we stood. yes, yes, we had a place on the square of consent, then they made it for a fee, and we smoothly moved. we have a parking lot under the eiffel tower. they also lived there, and that means a parking lot. on where does the morning start with a cup of coffee, yes eiffel, yes? four rows. that's how we come out. we get out of the car with a cup of coffee, people scurry past, go to the park seals they go to bed bugs. we have a cup of coffee we go. well, like always. yes, we had breakfast , we closed, too, we went no, no, no, we are like the image of the russian tourist. pension oh, this is an airbag, if a person is not capable of madness, it’s hard to say when the

age of happiness begins, it actually doesn’t end. each age of happiness has its own victor and svetlana zhukova one way? i would say this is how you discovered flea markets and thus you have i got some extra money for gasoline, as i understand it, yes, the main value is not even that. this is yulia. of course, these are also the main prices that we got into the new world. got a lot of friends into the new world. we study something, read art and so on, to know that something is interesting, but we happened to be in a small town. in feathers. we always passed by. here they always exist, there are entire industries of these flea markets. we always wanted to pass, because, as it were, these were not particularly fond of. a once upon a time icon caught our eye. it cost 57 cents. it was so strange. we bought some kind of icon, but it is simple, but on a tree, which means that they might also be

interested. it turned out that we brought it. we bought something for ourselves from dishes. friends liked it. they didn't ask us to bring us either. yes, and then for now. we got hooked up on the internet, read something about what we do and how, it turns out that there are people there, they open it, just in moscow they began to open flea markets. there are some city museums in moscow, something else, and then somehow completely happened spontaneously. we have in some kind of interior a beautiful pv began to appear in the house, and then quietly. at first they gave it to friends, then i said. well, what will you do? let's buy some money already some help for gasoline. we always say, that's what it's most on gasoline. uh huh , that's all. this is how we do it this way and now we already know how we draw up the route, that those places that we have not seen once, here is something where the holidays watch festivals, our route takes into account the weather, so as not to get into some yes, yes,

yes, yes, yes, yes, but, along the way, when are we going? some of us already know where everything is over time. and where is it, we meet unexpectedly along the way? this is the most when local residents dump everything with their blankets on blankets in the field, this is a holiday, this music is yours . i know what you were offered, yes, do it. it is too. well, so to speak, partly by some kind of business, since you drive it, you can it would be so to say young, that's the thing. well, it's clear that and why don't you do it? it 's constant, but you know it's driving not traveling. and go shopping. this is the young ones. let it be, for god's sake, maybe. really, it's possible to open stores there. and why should we, if our goal is not to make a career, there is something we still have enough for us, the main thing is to travel, and for it to take place, and it doesn’t take

much to make it happen. you know, it seems to me that all the heroes of our today's program, who were in plots and you are united with them, you know, some amazing positive attitude. now the word is now this fashionable has become such a positive positive almost got lost, but the truth, uh, this is some kind of bright look, me and the absence. well, here's the feeling that you're generally fearless. yes, we did not think anything. yes, yes, as it were, well, in general, we kind of believe that everything should be fine, everything will be fine. and we try not to get hung up on some problems. we just do something, but we do n’t pay much attention. well, what are you there, if not even i know that, and all the time we think. well, yes, probably, really think only about the good condition. everything, however, does not fall into the negative. by the way, before each trip now specifically. here we have planned 22 and 23. uh-huh well we don't know we'll find out about it that we're going 20-21. how

is the financial situation there, what’s in the news, how is the weather this is freedom, we actually get out of our car always under steam get out of the refrigerator to take what we don’t get to hang up with visits to hang up, and we leave right away with our preparations, no uh-huh then yes, understandable if things don't work out for us, we won't have enough money. for us, this means that we do not have to go, in general, it turns out. if you want to be free, then you will, if you want to be happy, then we will be everyone. he still moves in the direction that he still loves, regardless of age, and fate will throw such an opportunity. who came up with it anyway? where do you think it came from ? is that exactly the retirement age? this is some direct judgment. this is probably what young people think, because this is getting old or something. and when they have already reached they will understand? oh , i was a fool, why is this, great. how many opportunities life gives, in my opinion, here is vladimir yakovlev, who brings happiness back to the project. yeah, he just said that people at this age all say that we have become happier, but because the more hmm is clear, there is no longer any such responsibility. here is freedom. and you, finally,

can hire the same thing to do that you love something, because society doesn't demand anything from itself , it doesn't expect anything. the children have grown but grandchildren may loom on your horizon. how old is your 29 he will be fine, he will have to sit, we will sit, if they give him, we will take him with him and what problems where to travel, yes, and he will let his son go, if he does, of course, they will give him, of course. what to do if they don't let you go ? how will you sit? you are 2-3 days and already you are breaking down. well, life will show that there is not. that is, you also do not guess, do not think of a way out, there will definitely be. we will not think about the bad. we know you will find a way out. everybody it will be great for us and our granddaughters. it seems to me that all dreams are subject to you, indeed, apparently . what you think happens and you think, you are somehow very right, and it is clear that

you love your car, it is clear that the car in a sense also limits the circle of your travels, because, well, only where there are roads. you can move on one side, but we would like to give you such a globe as a farewell gift. a large map hangs on the wall in the house and all the routes are broken with a marker. and by the way, they are standing here like that in the house. we are in the bushes. and he usually gives you gifts, he doesn’t seem to give you a small present. that 's just the tradition of a favorite ring for the night, my god, my god, my, what a beauty, from that very one. thank you very much and happy travels. i hope that nothing will knock you out of any problems with your economical goals and the motorhome will be new and the trip will take place or so it will definitely be massive,

despite and we join your desire. school of husband and wife appeared in naberezhnye chelny after the doctor alexander zotov learned that there were 98 divorces for every 100 marriages in the city. now life has changed a lot now. we are, well, somehow independent of each other, we are so independent, we can do everything and everything. we can and no one is needed, and so on. therefore, it somehow became more difficult to stay together. the first students of the school were couples on the verge of divorce, but very soon it became clear that this problem was easier to prevent than to solve, and those who were

just about to get married in the majority began to be invited to classes. cases, a man would not respect himself if we constantly sawed him, and he did what his wife tells him, he would feel bad and his wife. at the same time, she also feels bad if she saws and she doesn’t want to be the director of the family. you see, do not feel like inside every woman wants to be a home decoration difference of expectations. here is one of the most pressing problems of today's newlyweds in the school of husbands and wives. learn not to look for the perfect partner. and learning to work on relationships one man was looking for the perfect wife. uh, and dismissed. all those who tried to become his wife. and when suddenly he was asked, you have a lot of time. did he find the perfect wife he said yes i found the perfect wife. so what are you happy in marriage? he says, no, she is looking for the perfect husband. what do men expect from marriage, what do women look for, how to resolve conflicts that

are inevitable in family life, and what is the basis of strong marriages? alone with everyone , the founder of the school of husband and wife, doctor alexander zotov hello alexander nikolaevich i will start with the fact that it is unexpected that, firstly, you are not a psychologist at all. and you are a pediatrician. yes with great experience. and secondly, you are a man, but he usually knows, so to speak, the issues of family and marriage are occupied by women, because they have experienced a divorce. they say, well, i can share my experience and stuff , and then suddenly a man at the origins of such a wonderful school, what happened to you between the profession of a pediatrician less sick, well, ending your active life, you begin to understand that, it turns out, here not from being sick with flu sore throats.