a strange mercenary with the cynical attitude of the kiev authorities, an unenviable fate awaits all of you, do not tempt your fate. and make the only right decision to stop hostilities and lay down your arms now, wherever your curators force you to fight for the ideas of nazism. and this is the wording, the initial one in this today, i honestly admit that the basis for declaring humanitarian corridors and cessation of hostilities is quite unexpected for me. here it is again, and she says that there everything is somehow complicated and much more complicated than imagining that thugs are sitting there who will not give up. they made a lot of offers. and so, then, we will, as it were, already pick it out. so, once again , this need arose. i personally have a feeling that these are, uh, humanitarian corridors and these appeals. these are not goats at all. this is not at all for those who are sitting there, and this is not at all their offer to surrender,

because it seems to me, it is personally obvious to me that none of them is going to give up. it an appeal to someone and to something, and this confidence is instilled in me, for example, by the fact that until 16:00 today there was this next truce and for some reason i did not at all when the messages went in any case, the dpr is reported that well, no one took advantage, that is, this is such a conversation, but a conversation with some kind of third party, or the observance of some observances of some e, i don’t know any observance. let's ask the person who is there directly, who has been there more than once and in mariupol and for sure. uh, this is uh alexander matyushin war correspondent, and who is for sure, hello alexander, how can you hear us? hello? i hear well. good evening. good evening. but actually i have a question for you? when you are in mariupol, you probably communicate with the fighters there, and in donetsk you communicate with those who are

involved in all this. here for me from moscow, this is, uh, the story that we begin to clean, then we announce the gum of the corridor, we appeal to someone to give up, but they do not give up. and we know that they will not give up, but again we offer it to them. she looks a little strange to me. what does she look like? there for you and for those with whom you communicate, how do you understand this for yourself? and how do the guys there generally understand everything. it is again for us it is the same as for you. strange, given the fact that in the same, well, in the conditions of the most difficult battles. we have narrowed the ring, yes, to the size of a soft steel plant, and we see huge support, and in the aerospace forces of the russian federation, which inflicts constant blows, the eyes got up today, they really went in by a special forces group because of the units of the internal troops of the ministry of internal affairs of the dpr from the army special forces . then there was this incomprehensible

truce but to me as a political scientist by education. even there he actively participated in the war for 5 years. and it looks like this by analogy. here is the syrian scenario. yes, when ah, also all kinds of corridors were provided to save, a-a life and minimize losses among the personnel of the assault units. that is, you proceed from the fact that there is still some kind of hope for someone that on the second, on the fifth or on the twenty-fifth time, people who did not go out in the first e, 24 times, they still either go out on their own, or let someone go who they do not let go. then it must be explained on what this hope rests. well, i personally do not have such a hope, because i have come across not only armed ukrainian nationalists, but practically for the last 15 years of my life. here we know, but they are not, their way of thinking. uh, sagging they

live. naturally. i understand that while they give up they are unlikely to be, but there is hope that some part is still closed there. foreign mercenaries who do not want to die and some of the other marines who also want to save their lives and do not see the war anymore. yes, today alexei nikanorov. uh voiced such an interesting figure that 20% of those who are now closed to azov would like to give up, but they still do not have such an opportunity, of course, i understand that this cannot be indefinitely. this ad corridors and everything else and as well. i hope that the assault will begin literally tonight, and a full-fledged military liquidation operation will begin, but as a person involved

, the former took part in the assault on the airport, and at the same time, i understand how donetsk airport is. how difficult it will be and how much it will bring losses. and i understood you correctly from your description. here, according to alexey nikanorov, what is the essence of the matter? we are talking about the situation that now there are not some militants in azov, in general, but some military personnel and militants who are held hostage, in fact, by another part of the militants. that is, in essence. this is no longer military in nature, but it turns out to be such a counter-terrorist operation, because some militants are holding other militants hostage. and uh, it's like there's a little shifter going on. yes, indeed, this is true, and such a situation at the front has occurred more than once, for example, for example , when i held the line of defense, and in one of the directions of donetsk, and the same skirmishes

occurred. uh, between the volunteer battle battalion of the dnieper and also vysushniks. yes, that is, by conscripts, and now it’s quite possible that the same situation has been created, and just in azov, when everyone was driven into one corner and some already understand that resistance is useless. and that in any case they will be overtaken by death if they return, but it’s just these nationalists, and the fighters of the regiments, and the fighters of other nationalist units that joined the kozuv, and it’s just that such situations are delaying them, well, almost everywhere. that is, we remember novotroitskoye when a detachment from the right sector was chained. these photos of ukrainian fighters literally flew around the social network, e.g. to the posts, so that they would shoot back to the last, when they could no longer shoot back. the right sector simply finished them off. i understand, thank you for

uh, for and for the version for interesting facts and details, and alexander matyushin was a war correspondent. well , how are you? you see, he is both a war correspondent, a political scientist and a person who himself took part, and in the battles, uh, and in this sense it is very interesting that he answered this question for us, as a person with one on the other hand, who, for sure, really wants it all to be finally achieved there, but on the other hand, as a person who, well, also looks at it with human eyes. i'm now vlad and here, and i'll put you in roughly the same situation. well, i'll start. that's why you recently returned from there. i will now show a small video that you sent me from there. well, first of all, he is so interesting. uh, a sketch from life, where is it. here she is nearby, as if there is a war and people, and so on and so forth, and then i will explain why it's important to me now. uh, here's how to look at it, except it's simple. well interesting, please.

already repaired what is your name? my name is ivan , call sign, skryagin. where does ivan skryagin come from, donetsk since how many islands have you been fighting? it's clear and where mariupol started here for a minute they ran over, apparently, someone came at night, it's clear and who he was before the war, they sold him. right now go. why the tank used to serve tankers or it's clear it's clear that relatives and friends say hello to everyone. who is there is a wife? children mother-in-law, there is a sister, well, mother-in-law, apparently, i'm special here, but it's clear. well, that's it,

thanks. come on good luck. thank you. and good luck to you. why i started a conversation with you from this video, you understand, because it's one thing when there is a television studio. by the way, i wanted this. well, here it is to publish. i hope the mother-in-law of us, maybe her relatives are watching too. why did i want to start a conversation with you. here i am, as it were, i understand everything, standing in the studio. i'm leading there. they tell something, you understand such considerations, all sorts of considerations. but i understand, here is ivan scriabin who himself came there on march 22, to fight on the same tank, on which he fought everything in the fourteenth year, he perfectly understands, with these freaks who are sitting there in the dungeons of this mariupol, uh, and it’s understandable. what does he want for them? here, try it. imagine that you are now back there again . explain it to him. there you are, you're flooded. here come on zampoliski. explain to him. he will tell you, after all, he will tell you another car . captain well, as it were, what the hell is that? what are we? yes

, then, too. we have a little bit of everything here today political officers. and here, by the way, to ivan scriabin and his mother-in-law. i think that his mother-in-law. well, i know how, as it were, how the mother-in-law works. i think that his mother-in-law asks the question even more harshly, thus ivan skryagin tells you what is happening, what are you pulling there, what are you messing with them? well, uh, if you answer ivan well, then there is such a simple simple answer. vanya needs it. i knew you'd say that . i knew you'd say that. if you still decipher, vanya and so you sit with him, here one on one there. here, by the way, mother-in-law. if you don't answer that, i'll explain. now, if the mother-in-law is already answering tonight. uh, these creatures that are sitting inside, they launched another fake. the fake is that it turns out that the basements are still full of women and children. something they haven't talked about before. they never spoke at all. there, they even showed some videos that were allegedly from there, although where they were filmed, nobody knows, most importantly, it is not clear how they were there, uh, from there to me by the way. i why do not

show these videos can be answered. yes, because many people ask me. but i say, guys at first just what kind of videos are there from there there is no connection. i 'm trying to get through to the people who are being pulled out of there. there is no connection there, there is no connection, and they don’t have it in the same way, and he says that elon maskam made a connection there. this, too, of course, well, here i am again. uh, they launched another dezu dezu, which should again lie like a black spot on all of us, that there are supposedly women and children, moreover, we are holding them hostage. they turn the start of the pope's tip to everything in free humanity. save our children. therefore, we are so that no one can tell us that we are still cruel, cynical people and speak hatefully of a person. yes, we know that there is no one there, but especially for you. we open the humanitarian corridor for 4 hours. so that you can calmly release these women and children, oh, whom you care so much. and if you have them,

let them out, we will accept them all, we guarantee that we survived these 4 hours, since no one came out, then everyone completely understands no women and children there no. it's just another meanness, inhaling. i understood this gang, that is, you tell me, uh, another version of what it's like? here, you know, there is a counter-battery fight. yes, it happens. he even, judging by everything went public. yes counter fake fight. another root version you wanted to add something. well, i don’t know mother-in-law or ivan scriabin or let’s be our spectator. i totally agree. with er, this is absolutely important too, of course, but it needs to be considered here. i do not know if it is possible to captivate on talking about it, but let's remember the following. the first we know and we assume that in the depths of this insert there are some very serious objects of a biolaboratory. and so on and so forth, from where they most likely have not been taken out, and those

components that may pose a threat to the local population, that is, roughly speaking, there is also a tank with all sorts of chemicals and various harmful substances. imagine. here i am a purely civilian person, what we take, in the end, the king with some kind of bomb, so they go there to the depth, and more even the king-bom to you more than 50 m. yes, it will probably break through and so on. you will correct me. well, it doesn't matter now. and that's all, including bioagents, including chemistry. you're talking about what we suspect is some sort of, uh, kamikada type, and we should. i believe that this honestly needs to be said to people living in the donbass, which they may not understand. why are we so fussy and pedes. this is the first point. that is, it is a danger of high risks of creating a well ecological disaster. therefore, this is the first, and the

second is, and from my point of view, that, of course we are very interested. here is this super facility, where 246 specialists from western biolaboratories have experiments, and so on, to take not just to take the papers and documentation that we already have, but to take this one live, so we want them to come out without exploding. they came out so that we understand that in the case that you describe, they, all the more, will not come out of there alive, because if they come out of there alive and hand over this object, then they are considered inanimate. and it's just as if it doesn't matter, we'll bang them there or crash down the road. this is my third thesis. that is why you understand, wherever you throw them everywhere, wedge, they can’t give up, they can’t, they can’t give up. in short, this is a stalemate for them. that 's why they behave for us. well. well, it turns out that

you are describing a stalemate situation for them, in which , in a sense, but, well, we will now talk about a counterfeit one. in a sense, we play along with them, because, as it were, by announcing humanitarian corridors. at the same time , we say that this is a humanitarian corridor. and if not, then we start hammering, they don't come out, and we don't start. if i understand correctly, they still occur. yes, we inform them through some channels, give up, and so on. we are setting up. yes, these channels still come out. i'm not sure that we have these channels with them, it doesn't matter with them and so on. i think that we are also probing the situation as much as possible in order to master it, and the largest body of information about what is there in the underground, and i think that we are on this topic. well, i would be very surprised. if, for example, in our general staff, but they didn’t work on it. i would say there, guys, but in general, then what is the situation right there in that even the west of the mass media are the very ones,

as it were, the most objective, but even some of them , nevertheless, they write so carefully that we can not e not confirm nor refute the fact that the video that they allegedly shoot there, they shoot them there, that is, no one knows, it is filmed there. not that they are fake, yes, in fact, when the western press says, we cannot confirm. that means it's fake because they're just they don't want to confirm that it's fake, but they ca n't confirm at the same time that it's actually happening. artyom, did you ever break an iron pond as a child? what did you do? what did the iron pond break? well, okay, how it turned out, that's right, yes, yes. well, i didn't break from the fence. so so so, yes, then it became thinner. i think you broke it easily. here, with the help of these guys, the same thing is happening that we are doing. we give a chance, then we say, you guys are finished, now again dm a chance is finished for you, what are these people doing guys part? guys, he says, listen, we go out

to kill them. losses we will do it again we go out to kill them. losses we uh achieve our goals without doing anything, in fact, the way of maneuvers. here is a high-explosive projectile. yes, when this is also a warning, because it is not clear what is down there. that's it. yes, even if there i do not know, well, the worst thing. well , this is fake stuff. it is formulated according to the laws of a hollywood movie, there is nothing worse than a small child in an empty dark house. i'm sorry, what this is for yes, what is it from nowhere appeared and and laughs from somewhere out there children in general. that's where the children of logic can come from, it doesn't lend itself, so, most likely, yes, this is a fake. these are, well, first of all, counter-fake wrestling experts. well, first of all, about the date. i want to say today is another

important day, but the money of united actions and in memory of the victims of the soviet people who died at the hands of the nazis, that is, too. well, if so, if so we went on today's important dates. it seems to me that one of the most important today's dates, which has attitude to the entire spectrum of problems that we face in conducting a special military operation, including, let's say, in the rear. and this is the date of creation of death. eh, our intelligence, which is here, it seems to me that if it comes to that, then this is today's most important date - this is the anniversary of the creation of smersh water. yes, well, but in fact, artyom, you absolutely correctly said that we are talking with a third party with the party that is trying to collect a giant folder for us and i know that this is already work conducted in another bureaucratic structure called the international criminal court. uh-huh uh, so where did this first approach come from, so to speak, well, to our friend, the

president of the united states, who has lost his mind, so to speak, about the genocide, but no one supported this in this. so next entry. let's declare russia a country and a sponsor of terrorism plus. it's the same question they continue to debate, of course. well, i mean, they they are probing the soil, that is. well, it’s not very good so far with the genocide, especially since i flew to them the opposite accusation, because how much the states have done in their lives there, then everyone will have to sit on the bench as the entire us president sponsoring terrorism. there is absolutely no place to put a stigma, but nevertheless, they are probing about genocide here. here it means that russia is a sponsor of terrorism and they are gathering materials for this , so to speak, they are some kind of american nuremberg, so that after completion, after our victory over modern ukrainian nazism, we will not be engaged in the construction of a peaceful life, so we are really in response to these fakes on these girls there are incomprehensible mythical saying, please come out here. well , you see, well, you are still the world. they don't go out, but they don't

want to stop. i was waiting for you to say this, you said this very one, as if we were showing the phrase to the whole world, and then i ask, don’t we understand that the whole world, which is ready to see and understand something, has already seen and understood everything, but he understood, and the one who, uh, who needs to be shown something else, he still won’t see and is incomprehensible now, but the story is reversed, which means these are their own 5 million fakes, which, by this moment, actions were already taken around the special operation on the principle of porridge sms yes, like oil you can’t spoil it and vice versa, how they overfed, that is, more and more normal ordinary citizens are wondering what, well, something is not converges with one another. especially since there are too many blunders, it’s another matter that, and we have to switch and are slowly switching to the mode of such, uh, digital cybersandat, that is, since our media everywhere there are consistently cleaning up, they’ve already reached it, so

say well to small. and he wrote that in austria it’s something like 50,000, in my opinion, even an organization asks a fine for even a person just for reposting materials, but there is a loophole left, respectively, we can, well, send links, that is, there is no need to publish posts, that is, that's why i'm talking about the most surrenders. that is, you will send links to acquaintances abroad through instant messengers. they will distribute among their own. yes, it may sound ridiculous, but this big tech these giant companies are all zuckerberg and others like that. have now created an environment that people underground in digital kitchens. there in the west they tell each other the truth. that is, we have high-precision weapons in the information sphere here. we are such a little bit of cyber guerrillas, not a little bit, i'm somehow for the future yes, but nevertheless, the spread rate is very high and we return to an ordinary westerner who says listen, well, something can't be, but directly this and this and this and this and then he turns to look. yeah, it doesn't

fit really starts watching videos some stuff, huh? this may sound a little naive, but we have no other way to fix. each of their lies, each truthful fact is ours to spread, because we are working on our own international public tribunal. it is clear in ukraine it is clear, that is, but your version is yours. eh, then, in any case, he explains to me not completely, the question i understand. why do we accuse over and over again - we announce the next truce and the next humanitarian corridor. and what seems illogical in your version? it seems, on the contrary, that the more we announce them, the more it will become known about them anyway, and then this conditional resident of europe will say. well, wait, well, it can't be, but they announced five times five times they gave corridors, but no one comes out. what? that is, roughly speaking, we work. in this case, for quantity and, this is an apparent, well, not sequence. it is the opposite in your version is valuable. it's all follow-up. is there anything to add about this story. well

, i would add e you. what did you say that this is it seems, perhaps, naive and strange that it seemed to me not only the announcement of gum corridors. but actually this idea that we should talk about it, because i understand your idea that if in the modern information world you can call white black, black can be called white. you are talking about what is the point of talking about this and trying to do something, dear ones, i will hold this idea that you need to use every opportunity that arises in order to convey your point of view. you know when i i see, to be honest, there is our diplomat in the un who is reading something from a piece of paper. e hmm i'm kind of embarrassed, because here in the state of really modern information wars. it 's the way to approach it. do you have the opportunity, how was it, for example, when they were investigating? well, how did russia discuss at least the gucci situation over there . show as hard as it

does. the same ukrainian side. show videos with captives whose throats are cut. show the children of those killed in donetsk only the truth, but not fakes. well, of course, but such sites still exist, that is, it cannot be said that everything there has plugged holes everywhere they are, but these sites must be used wisely in a modern way and not be afraid of this. it seems to me that we have not reached the end here yet to such mastery. and this should be done, in my opinion. and by the way, i would also note that there is not only a western audience. if the audience is right for you, and here too there are a lot of questions and there are also options where they still listen to us and give the floor and there is an opportunity. there this point of view. here is this site about this here, as it were, eastern and eastern direction. and because you are really here again, i agree with you. it is true that we have such an idea, which has been ingrained from some time, that we must definitely prove everything important to the west. and if we

proved from the west, then, as it were, everything else is fine. like a dachshund, you are absolutely right that, perhaps, now it is more important for us to show our truth to the conditional east, which, to put it mildly, does not really like this very west. and this is in the current situations, there the sanctions of anti-sanctions are much more important, but, in general, all versions are interesting, all important and not only about mariupol but in general about the course of this operation, a passage about those of our questions that need answers. now let's break for advertising, because there are still other questions and there are many of them, maybe on them. we, too, will get some answers with you now and the audience will not switch now to a short advertisement, and then about bridges. now the students of the special purpose school have a higher education faculty of engineering farmer. great leadership experience organizers actor director you will be here intelligence is looking for friends counterintelligence enemies,

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