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enjoy. there's a big game on the air. let's get away from international security issues. eh, let's move on to problems of global governance. opening tomorrow in washington. uh, g20 meeting at the level of finance ministers. there will take part online. e, the russian minister of finance, the siluans and the united states tried in every possible way to prevent a and his participation and, in principle, raised the issue that russia should be expelled from the g20. none of this worked. indonesia, the chairman of the top twenty, said that russia would. yes, including probably at the a-a summit, a, which

coming this fall, as a result, the united states announced that they themselves would boycott, and those meetings of the twenty, where russian representatives will participate ivan vasilievich so who will isolate whom? well, i think that the west is isolating itself from a large part of the non-western world from the developing world, but uh, this is not only such a political diplomatic protocol game from my point of view. there is a very important fundamental thing behind this. the west is abandoning a long-term policy that was to give opportunities to develop countries outside the west, and the twenty-twenty has been just the last two decades with about 15 years since the 2008 crisis. here is such a center, and to ensure a common world growth in the interests of all, so that we can share. er, somehow part of that growth. whoever pulls more on themselves should be,

in fact, a general growth, the united states, from my point of view, their western allies refuse, in principle, from the idea of ​​a common growth. although it is to put only your height, so i do not rule it out. that which they can actually make content aggressive moves against the 20. then, apparently, the center of such decisions will shift. in the same brix , yes, well, indeed we do it seems to me, now we are witnessing a paralysis of global governance, inspired by the west and the united states. after all , the g20 was indeed the main forum, uh, which determined the global agenda for solving global problems. ah. well, not only economic but also a pandemic, uh, and so on. yes, that is, the twenty symbolized the effort of key members of the international community to address the transnational problems of mankind. and now they are boycotting each other. here's how it is in this situation. you can generally talk about solving

global problems, because they do not go anywhere. and it's not just a pandemic. this is a matter of food security, energy security, migration and so on for economic growth differences. very well. competition yes, at a high level, and the g20 really came to life in 2008 in response to the fall of markets on the crisis, and it was earned and earned, like the seven plus the rest of the country. namely, because e had to be saved. the west twenty began to work under the slogan, let's save the global economy, let's save ourselves. this is this regime 2009 10 11, it has fully developed itself. no way to save the american financial system from problems now in any way on the world economy, will not positively affect everyone but k- leaves the encirclement individually or groups of brix countries go their own way western

countries on their way in parallel shelling. yes, here we are, how it works, naturally, the twenty will be a battlefield in such a situation, vladimir alekseevich, that is, accordingly, we are witnessing a bifurcation of global governance, when on the one hand the seven on the other side is brix, with our participation. here is what russia needs to offer within the framework of brix a in order to make a more significant contribution to the solution of these serious global problems that make it difficult to affect our friendly countries in africa in the middle east uh, well, indeed, there is a paralysis of the systems of international relations associated with the destructive policy of our western partners. and against this background, it is precisely russia that can become, if you like , such, and not destructive, on the contrary, a productive actor in the system of international relations, and in our everything today, to form an image of the future, it is in our power today to form new ligaments of the system of international relations, er, which will

show that cooperation and truth, if you like, can e dominate this whole empire lie, huh? they can dominate e non-constructive politics, and for this it is necessary to show a proactive offensive policy and form the images we want, the actions we want, to clearly define strategic goal-setting, not only at the level of education about the need for a polycentric world order, but also at the level of how it is we who see the links within this polycentric world order, so as not to be surprised at such things as, uh, turkey's operation against iraq well, i think that russia needs to more actively form the agenda, in the main polycentric world order, including the one aimed at resolving transnational global issues an absolutely ideal format for us today, the head of the russian ministry of foreign affairs, sergei viktorovich lavrov, gave an interview to the indian

tv channel, india today, in which he stated, that russia has come to an unambiguous conclusion quote. and we can rely on our western colleagues in any area of ​​life that is of strategic importance. this is a very important statement russia tried to build some kind of commonality with the west and ended up returning to relations with the west in the form in which they existed before february 24th. she herself will not allow in russia the power of simply extremely unreliable counterparty. and it is very important that the minister gave a big interview specifically to indian ones, because this reflects the reality of our turn to the east, building up not only political and economic, but also informational and humanitarian interaction with the sudden world and its key representative, which is india and this work, it is necessary to continue and build up and build up the diplomatic educational scientific humanitarian presence outside the western

countries, as well as to fill, together with the partners in the brix, the vacuum of global governance that it creates today. it was a big game program. all the best. hello , the program time will tell, we continue to work live. i'm artem shenin with us in an amazing way. although it may be that we just began to pay more attention to these symbolic all kinds of dates, which is not ether, then symbolic date is today's symbolic date. e is connected with the fact that april 19, and today is april 19 in 1783 . russian empress catherine the second signed a manifesto. it is called the acceptance of the crimean taman peninsula, and the entire kuban side under the russian state in this way. she

completed the development of the northern part of the black sea coast, which has already entered the structure of the russian state with this manifesto, what is symbolic here and what is interesting here. they seemed to be going north , joining. and we kind of get it. now later. well, how many almost 250 years, we go from the south. the north, that is, as it were, crimea, we have been here for 8 years, as it is now that we have entered here. and everything that was already under the russian crown at that time was there, in fact, tonight, as many people believe, the decisive events of the second phase of the operation began to unfold. eh, so that somehow it all returns to where it should return. more precisely, in any case, he didn’t stay where he didn’t belong, i mean, but what many call uh, the second u phase of the special military operations in the second stage, namely the donbass operation at night. eh, quite powerful blows were delivered

, and powerful blows are delivered every night, but as far as i could pay attention , the number of blows and the power of these blows along the entire line of contact have increased manifold. well , probably, we can now speak of the donbass front, although there are several fronts in military terms. in general, both in number and power, the number of these strikes has greatly increased, and even at night , uh and uh, zelensky and danilov, uh, made a statement about the fact that russia launched an offensive, and in the donbass about which it has long been talking. uh, and this is the rare case when a statement, a representatives of the kiev regime. well, in general, in fact, they coincided with the statements of representatives of the russian federation, because today, uh, sergey lavrov also said that the next phase had actually begun, and special operations. which

suggests that apparently, uh, it really began, but this case. eh, as we all already now. i hope we understand, having lived these 7 weeks in the regime of a special military operation. even those who understand those who watch her from comfortable sofas from comfortable chairs understand that this is not a quick, easy thing, that we are talking about 8 years. they dug in there for 8 years, stored ammunition for fuel and lubricants, there are still many interesting nuances that we’ll talk about, because these questions still need to be handed over, but now returning to the acquisitions, just catherine the second, that’s actually mariupol, which is also on that the northern coast of the black sea. this is to the question of how everything is not simple, because with mariupol. and this is not a group for you. this is not a whole front for you. and this is one city with all its power, and the fortifications created there were realized, but nevertheless it is very difficult. everything is

going on there, and we are all watching how things are not going well there, but because it has been for quite a long time. i hear that there is 95% 98%, what, well, not today, tomorrow, from day to day, it will be 100%, and then some humanitarian corridors for exit are announced on saturday night to sunday. and i don’t really understand some of these people, then in uh sunday, and some work begins. yes, they are encouraged to surrender. they certainly don't give up in the morning they say. well, that's it guys, what's called who didn't hide? it's not my fault some work begins. and we are here yesterday we are discussing that some kind of work is beginning with a different type of aviation, long-range aviation has already flown. e, so some large ammunition is already being used and we say, well, that’s it, we’ve given so many chances, now already, which means that everyone who didn’t give up will be all. well, how to dig in there. this morning there is news about

that the assault groups of the special forces, e, began to work on the azov-steel, went there and literally almost half an hour an hour. after this news comes a new, uh, statement a of the ministry of defense of the russian federation that a humanitarian corridor is being declared again, and there is a 2-hour delay. let's listen. the russian armed forces once again offer the militants of the nationalist battalions as a foreign mercenary from 12:00-19 april 2022 to stop any hostilities and lay down their arms 14:00 to 16:00. exit of all without exception ukrainian armed units and foreign mercenaries without any weapons and ammunition. we appeal to all military personnel of the armed forces and foreign mercenaries. with the cynical attitude of the kiev authorities. an unenviable fate awaits all of you, do not tempt your fate. and make the only

right decision to stop hostilities and lay down your arms now, wherever your curators force you to fight for the ideas of nazism. and this is the wording, the initial one in this today, i honestly admit that the basis for declaring humanitarian corridors and cessation of hostilities is quite unexpected for me, then this is once again, and she says that everything is somehow complicated and much more difficult than imagining that thugs have settled there who won't give up anymore. they made a lot of offers. and so, it means that we will, as it were, already pick out. so, once again this need arose. i personally have a feeling that these are, uh, humanitarian corridors and these appeals. these are not goats at all. it's generally not to those who are sitting there, and this is not their offer to surrender at all, because it seems to me, it is personally obvious to me that none of them is

going to give up. this appeal to someone and to something, and this confidence is instilled in me, for example, by the fact that until 16:00 today there was this next truce and for some reason i did not at all when the messages went in any case, in the dpr it is reported that well, no one took advantage, that is, this is such a conversation, uh, a conversation with some, or a third party, or compliance with some i don't know what to observe, let's ask the person who is there directly, who has been to mariupol more than once, and for sure. uh, this is alexander matyushin, a war correspondent, and who for sure. hello alexander, how can you hear us? hello? i hear well. good evening. good evening. but actually i have a question for you? when you are in mariupol, you probably communicate with the fighters there, and in donetsk you communicate with those who are involved in all this. here for me from moscow, this is, uh, the story that we begin to clean, then we declare the gum of the corridor, we appeal to someone

to give up, but they do not give up. and we know that they will not give up, but we offer it to them again. she looks a little strange to me. and how is it there for you and for those with whom you communicate, how do you understand this for yourself? and how do the guys there generally understand everything. it is again for us it is the same. like that, well, in the conditions of the most difficult battles, we have narrowed the ring, but to the size of, uh, a soft steel plant, and we see huge support, and in the aerospace forces of the russian federation, which inflicts constant blows on the eyes, they really got up today by a group of special forces because of the units of the internal troops of the ministry of internal affairs of the dpr from army special forces. then there was this incomprehensible truce but to me as a political scientist by education. even there he participated in an active 5-year war, but it seems like

this by analogy. here is the syrian scenario. yes, when a-a, all kinds of corridors were also provided to save, a-a life and minimize losses among personnel assault units. that is, you proceed from the fact that there is still some hope for someone that for the second, for the fifth or for the twenty-fifth time, people who did not come out in the first e, 24 times, they still either come out themselves, or let go of someone they won't let go. then it must be explained on what this hope rests. well, i personally do not have such a hope, because i have come across not only armed ukrainian nationalists, but practically for the last 15 years of my life. we know, but they are not, their way of thinking. uh, sagging they live. naturally. i understand that they are unlikely to give up, but there is hope

that some part is still closed there. foreign mercenaries who do not want to die and some of the other marines who also want to save their lives and do not see the war anymore. yes, today aleksey nikonorov aa voiced such an interesting figure that 20%, and those who are now closed to azov would like to give up, but they don’t have such an opportunity yet, of course, i understand that this cannot be indefinitely. this ad is gum corridors and everything else and as well. i hope that the assault will begin literally tonight, and a full-fledged military liquidation operation will begin, but as a person who participated, the former took part in the assault on the airport, and at the same time, i understand how

donetsk airport is. how difficult it will be and how much it will bring losses. and i understood you correctly from your description. here, according to alexey nikanorov, what is the essence of the matter? we are talking about the situation that now there is no steel in azov some militants, in general, and some of the servicemen and militants who are held hostage, in fact , with another part of the militants. that is, in essence . this is no longer military in nature, but it turns out to be such a counter-terrorist operation, because some militants are holding other militants hostage. and uh, it's like there's a little shifter going on. yes, indeed, this is true, and such a situation at the front has occurred more than once , for example, when i held the line of defense, and in one of the directions of donetsk, a the same skirmishes took place. uh, between the volunteer battle of the dnieper battalion and also

the dryers. yes, that is, by conscripts, and now it’s quite possible that the same situation has been created, and just in azov, when everyone was driven into one corner and some already understand that resistance is useless. and that in any case death will overtake them if they return, but it’s just these nationalists, and the fighters of the regiments, and the fighters of other nationalist units who joined the call, but it’s precisely these situations that delay them occur, well practically everywhere. that is, we remember novotroitskoye when a detachment from the right sector was chained behind the grad. these photos of ukrainian fighters literally flew around the social network, e.g. to the posts, so that they would shoot back to the last, when they could no longer shoot back. the right sector simply finished them off. i understand, thank you for uh, for and for the version for interesting facts and details, and alexander matyushin was a war correspondent. well

, as you can see, he is both a war correspondent and a political scientist and a person who himself participated, and in battles, and in this sense it is very interesting that he answered this question for us, as a person, on the one hand, who, for sure, really wants it all to be finally achieved there, but on the other hand, as a person who is watching on it even with human eyes. i'm now vlad and here, and i'll put you in roughly the same situation. well, i'll start. that's why you recently returned from there. i will now show a small video that you sent me from there. well, he, firstly, is such and such an interesting sketch from life, where is it. here she is nearby, like there is a war and people, and so on and so forth, and then i will explain why it is important for me right now. uh, here's how to look at it, except it's simple. well interesting, please. put a minute put. repair already. rovali

will go. here, what's your name? my name is ivan , call sign, skryagin. where does ivan skryagin come from, donetsk since when are you fighting? it's clear and where mariupol started here for a minute they ran fresh, yes, that is, apparently, someone came at night, it's clear and who was the construction worker before the war. here right now go. why did the tank serve tankmen before? or is it clear what to convey to relatives? hello. who is there is a wife? the children are mother-in-law, there is a sister, we are mother-in-law, apparently, special, as always, but clearly. well, that's it, thanks. come on good luck. thank you. and good luck to you. so. that's why i started a conversation with you from this

video, you understand that it's one thing when there is a television studio. by the way, i wanted this. well, here it is to publish. i hope the mother-in-law of us, maybe relatives are watching too. why did i want to start a conversation with you. here i am, as it were, i understand everything, standing here in the studio. i'm leading there. they tell something, you understand such considerations, sections of considerations. but i understand this ivan who himself arrived there on march 22, to fight on the same tank, on which he fought everything in the fourteenth year, he understands perfectly well about these freaks who are sitting there in the dungeons of this mariupol, and understandable. what does he want for them? and try it. imagine that you are now back there again. explain it to him. here, you're stuck. here, let's take care of it. explain to him. he will tell you after all, he will tell you something else. captain. well , as it were, what the hell, what are we ? but , by the way, to ivan scriabin and his mother-in-law, i

think that his mother-in-law. well, i know how, as it were, how the mother-in-law works. i think that his mother-in-law asks the question even more harshly, thus ivan skryagin tells you what is happening, what are you pulling there , what are you messing with them? well, uh, if i answer you, then there is such a simple simple answer. vanya needs it. i knew you'd say that. i am i knew you would say that. if you still decipher, vanya is already sitting with him, here one on one there. and here, by the way, about the mother-in-law. you do n't answer like that. let me explain, now, if the mother-in-law is already answering tonight. uh, these creatures that are sitting inside, they launched another fake. the fake is that it turns out that the basements are still full of women and children. something they haven't talked about before. they even showed some videos that supposedly came from there. but where are they filmed? nobody knows, the main thing is not clear how they how they were there, er, from there. by the way. why don't i show these videos, i can answer. yes , because many people ask me. and here i am

saying, guys, let's not confuse the mother-in-law. let me answer you at first simply what kind of videos are there from there there is no connection. i'm trying to get through to the people who are being pulled out of there. there is no connection there, there is no connection, and they also have no stories that elon maskam made a connection there. this is the same thing, of course, but here i am again. uh, they launched another dezodoz, which should again then lie like a black stain on all of us, that there are allegedly women and children, moreover, we hold them hostage , they again begin the pope of rome finish to all free humanity. save our children. therefore, we are so that no one can tell us that we are still cruel, cynical people and hateful people. yes, we know that there is no one there, but especially for you, we open a humanitarian corridor for 4 hours, so that you can safely release these women and children, oh, whom you care so much about. and if you have them, release, we will accept them all, we guarantee. we survived these four hours, since no one came out

, then it is completely clear to everyone that there are no women and children there. it's just another meanness, resting. i understood this gang, that is, you tell me , uh, another version of what it's like? here, you know, there is a counter-battery fight. yes , it happens. he even, judging by everything went public. yes counter fake fight. another root version you wanted to add something. well, i don’t know mother-in-law or ivanov scriabin or our viewer. come on, i'm perfect agree. uh, this is absolutely important too, but it needs to be considered here. i don't know if it's possible to talk about this closely, but let's remember the following. we know the first and we assume that in the depths of this and azov, inserting there are some very serious objects, bio-laboratories, etc. that

is, roughly speaking, and there are also tanks with all sorts of chemicals and various harmful substances. imagine. here i am a purely civilian person, what do we take, in the end, the king with a bomb of some sort in a shambles to them. right there , to a depth, and more than even the tsar bomb is more than 50 m. yes, they will probably break through and so on. you will correct me. well, it doesn't matter now. and that 's it, including the bioagents, including the chemistry, because we suspect it's uh, like a kamikada, and we should. i believe that this honestly needs to be said to people living in the donbass who may not understand. why do we fuss and let's go. this is the first point. that is, it is the danger of high risks of creating, well, an ecological disaster. so that's the first one, and the second one is, and from my point of view, that, of

course, we're very interested. here is this super facility, where there are 246 experiments by some western biolaboratory specialists, and so on, not just to take the papers and documentation that we already have, but to take this one live , so we want them to come out without exploding . it came out in order for the coins we understand that if which you describe, they, all the more, will not come out of there alive, because if they come out of there alive and hand over this object, then they are considered inanimate and it’s just, no matter how important, we will crash them there or they will crash on the way to pizza. this is my third thesis. that is why you understand, wherever you throw them everywhere, wedge, they cannot give up, they cannot give up. in short, this is a stalemate for them. they, so she behave. well , it turns out that you are describing a stalemate situation for them, in which, in a certain sense.