and so on, that is, it is about 5-6 times more. what was it the day before. again, i read guys who are military correspondents working in the izyum area, for example, sasha kot. he says we are on the offensive. i read the reports of the zaporozhye direction. we also write to me that the offensive is underway, but if the new york time writes that there is no offensive. well, maybe they have their own way of thinking about it. what is an offensive, if there is a powerful blow, if there is a downward movement forward, then this is an offensive, or something like for example, i think that this is all the same the second phase has already begun. it can have different intensities to be sure. uh. it can have different speed. uh, again, in order to enter the operational space, you need to break through the enemy defenses. this is always present in any military operation . well, what the night tells me tonight. uh, the residents of donbass are there, along the entire front line. a powerful artillery preparation began. in the gorlovka region, there are mvdki in the popasnaya area. well, where to the north there i pestered to rumble under raisins.

there's just artillery, as it never works, then there is everything that indicates that the second phase has really begun. and moreover, the first part will certainly carry out operations to break through the defense of the armed forces. and naturally, when there is a breakthrough in the defense of a quick advance, you know, the wedges do not go through if we remember, for example, the operation of the great patriotic war to encircle stalingrad there are the first few days of the war. the first few days, too, there was not much breakthrough. there is already a breakthrough. it was made on the second and third day. it will be here. i think the same, that is, again i'm a breakthrough. here, too, as it were classics of world war ii. the great patriotic war cannot be applied here, after all, the war is different and the saturation of the enemy’s defense is quite serious in every settlement. i think there will be resistance here and the russian army will not rush, because here and now the most important thing is not to lose a lot of soldiers. that is, this is the most important moment, not speed. yes , that's right, especially since here in the same article is the orgtime headline that we show our viewers. there is also an idea

to say something that this is the second phase of the operation. as it was written there, so to speak, and it can bring the end not only to the ukrainian group, but also to the russian army. well, uh, it sounds a little insulting, but on the other hand, it's exactly what you 're talking about, you don't have to carry too much. uh ahead so to speak. well, i don’t know to rush with a sword and so on. it is necessary to economically carefully economically in the sense that the economy of one’s own strength and the lives of soldiers, so to speak, should be moved calmly and confidently , so to speak, there is no contradiction in this. well, let's assume, then we'll assume that we really trust you, after all, even more than no overtness. we assume that the second phase of the operation. that the same battle for the donbass began and let's repeat it again, you said this more than once, but uh, tell me again, please, i understand correctly that this is a battle , the outcome of this battle for the donbass will be decisive and in general in all spices . and for the entire special operation, it will not only be, because a large group in the east is now concentrated there - the most combat-ready group. very high

an important point is the psychological war of the modern it is still going on e war in the minds of the war of psychology, that is, the enemy, when he is confident in victory, he can resist stubbornly and for a long time. and when he is psychologically impudent, and his resistance can sharply weaken, and this battle for the donbass can bring such a result that you believe that they are no longer able to beat in this war, they suffer huge losses. and when these huge losses will be hidden. well, as it were, the ability of those remaining with him. how much would they mobilize personal composition. it will be very low. yesterday there was such a case in the zaporizhia region, when one of the well, a small unit was there somewhere, in my opinion. a couple of dozen people, having agreed with the russian command, it passed. well, as if surrendered, damn it, not on the side. it simply surrendered , that is, without fighting, that is, they were not surrounded. but they just agreed and gave up, damn it, this process has already begun, while this is among. reservists, and another very important point. why is this happening right now in the direction of

we have already been noted in ukrainian public pages and are very outraged, for example, by residents of eastern ukraine . even those who are so-called patriotic , that basically mobilization rakes out residents of kharkiv zaporozhye, dnepropetrovsk. here, earlier, in the nikolaev region of odessa, that is, those areas that are foreign to the well of ukrainian people , that is, they would like more of these guys to die, they are now throwing these fat wars into the piers of war, and they really want them to die. but such a mobilization for example, it is not carried out in western ukraine. that's what's interesting, yes, that is, people are not sent especially calls. we can’t help but ask you about steel about azov and that suddenly surfaced completely, so to speak, a statement. first, they showed us the girl alice, an angel, just young, which means that she is allegedly sitting in a bunker. uh, they presented, so to speak to the world, that so that the russians would not dare to storm anything, and today, besides alice, there was still there . well, judging by the statements of uh azov people, that there are thousands of civilians there

residents and so on. how do you feel about these messages. and if you consider the chance that there are indeed thousands of civilians sitting there. well, i don’t think that there are thousands, but for some reason i think that if we take it in the version that it’s still not a fake but still it’s true, and everything can be, that is, i think that in the first turn, families sit there. here are the very azov people. naturally, and other civilians . there can sit and note that this whole wave has gone. after when the real assault began, and they caught it last night, it already went the assault was caught. today they are cleaning up. some northern parts of azov became literally. yesterday evening. this wave began, then seeing appeared, and then, by the way, a very interesting video. yesterday , this statement also appeared from this commander of azov, lieutenant colonel prokopenko yes, who said that there are a lot of people here, they need to be saved, he turned there to these international organizations as an international leader, then this is obvious. a big planned operation to rescue these militants from the ruins. azov steel they have a task survive and leave. that is, they are hiding behind.

they dream of leaving with this human shield. oh, and it's the day before yesterday. nevertheless, they are silent that the day before yesterday they had such an opportunity to release any civilians, but they did not take advantage of this, they are silent with him. well, it's amazing, really, but there it's okay to be, the woman and children say, but the woman still has the right. so to say, on your decision to explore, tell everyone i am azov. okay has the right to stay with her husband forever. so to speak forever and and so on, but the children have something to do with it this time, but this is not just a rhetorical question of a generally humanistic nature. after all, there were all the technical capabilities, and the russian federation repeatedly said about this from day to day that there were opportunities to bring civilians out of children. they did not take advantage of this, that is , well, surprisingly, of course, history, and except for, as a real human shield and hostages. how else to interpret the fact that, in spite of everything, they left these their children, if this is not fiction there inside. well, that is, it's true hostage. this is only one definition

of such behavior as terrorism, but they are terrorists. they act like terrorists. yes, you see such a paradox of today. yes , they are being conducted like a terrorist in no uncertain terms. that's clear. simply, without embarrassment, it means that those parts that settled on azov stood up, and the elite part of the ukrainian army, uh, ukrainian defense, so to speak, but consider that measures are being considered regarding what to recognize as the sponsor of terrorism is russia and not ukraine in a paradoxical time, but in a surprisingly simple yuriy thank you very much yuriy podlyako was in direct contact with us. now let's talk about that. what is happening, and our military continues to fight with the national battalions, which cover the world's inhabitants, they are still trying to fight. here, watch the video that was filmed from our armored personnel carrier by war correspondent andrey filatov. work

is carried out according to the same scheme so that there are no unnecessary victims, among them the population, first the troops go and do not immediately destroy residential areas, when the armored personnel carrier went inside, already determined by the points from where the fire was fired, the cat, which entered through pobedy avenue, went in to suppress the firing points and it was from the rpg in the sidewall of the same residential area in this house. there are civilians and their militants. the basement is especially closed to prevent them from evacuating. they use the terrorist, hiding behind the slow population. exclusive footage, which shows the work of a sniper of the people's militia of the dpr, which is fighting with ukrainian nationalists, will now be directly shown, look attentively.

the ministry of defense reports that yesterday, a high-precision strike was destroyed by a vovami logistics center and large batches of foreign weapons located in it, which arrived in ukraine from the united states and other european countries over the past six days . see how our special forces operate on the territory of the plant. here we will run across to move, we will have a hole there and everything is clearly visible, because on the left we will shoot through the enemy.

yes, you are watching these shots and you are really worried about every fighter who runs to the shelter. come on, how many nerves it costs every second, our military continues to pick out the nationalists from the territory of the azovstal plant . one of the fighters told the offensive operation, dpr. tell us which sector you have already managed to clean up, how difficult it was. well, with each battle, the enemy resists less and less. he, uh, only tries to, uh, stop us, but uh, he does not succeed, as today's night fight showed. that there were then visible. uh, the fact that the enemy was dragging the wounded, and throwing equipment. oh, and

weapons. so i fled, thereby advancing from the north side, that is, we are occupying more and more territory; today’s task was to clean up, and garage cooperatives and e to reach the borders have become today’s task. tonight, a video message appeared from one of the commanders of the azov regiment named prokopenko, who said that hundreds of civilians were in azov. azov i am the commander of the azov regiment lieutenant colonel denis prokopenko appeal to world leaders right now at the azovstal plant there are hundreds of civilians . among them are many children of different ages, women, elderly people and defenders of mariupol who are hiding from the russian world in a bomb shelter here with the ukrainian military, who will continue to defend the city, but have not been found. the only possible refuge, therefore i appeal to the politicians of the entire civilized world. organize a green corridor.

give security assurances to immediately evacuate civilian wounded and bodies killed fighters who will be buried with honors in the corridor, residents of civilians were waiting for the exit, if they are there, but this information was for some reason the ukrainian side and the nationalist battalion. azov ignored the confirmation of their words. prokopenko then posted another video, allegedly with those civilians who are on azov. we try, be nervous when they shoot, we are shaking here, we came here, and we had a three-month-old son. i came with my mom. before that, i was sitting in another bunker, but he has 2 march hit by a shell. so i'm here on march 25 at first

hmm there were a lot of things and yes, and we were told that the reserves were generally for a year, then it turned out that for a month. we play with toys here brings us. well, we do all sorts of buildings. here we come up with. all this aha wanted to go out, finally they ran to our apartment in safety. we got here constantly stress, constantly shelling food remains very little. we need a green corridor. e our governments with international organizations, so that he, here, the osce organized here between

them and this green corridor to lead out because here, let's say so. here, personally, it makes terrible sense to me to stay. there's nothing for me here. not left yet? yes, this is a fragment of the video there are a lot of residents. they took pictures that tell about the whole situation when they got there, and when i personally looked at it several times, i looked at it in its entirety, and you know what i caught myself on, they get very confused in dates, because there is one girl who says i got here , but, in my opinion, there is february 25th. no, she said march and right february. yes, but it seems to me that this is a confusion in dates. yes, somehow very much, well, it suggests that they themselves do not really understand what they are talking about, and then none of them ever said that they were in the azov steel. so i listened carefully, no one said that we are peaceful women here. old children are on nitrogen in steel at the

azov steel plant and we demand that we provide a green corridor. no, some incomprehensible bunker, some incomprehensible place, allegedly azov steel vasilyevich, does not bother you with anything personal. in all these here everything globally. uh, the first is really unclear where these people are, the second. here prokopenko says that they are saving from the russian world, the vast majority speaks russian fluently , it is their native language, and then you understand, i don’t know where these people are, but i remember other shots. i remember footage from basements with much less comfortable conditions, where the baby was born, who was miraculously saved from ukrainian shelling, i remember the shot of the maternity hospital, from which people could not be evacuated again from under the shelling of overhead battalions. for some reason, they do not show this to anyone to international organizations. and our soldiers are risking their lives. remember the reportage, which is his only to be first our soldiers come in, they risk their lives, they

come in. that's when they start shooting at them, and they already start shooting at them, they killed someone. that's when the points are calculated they are inflicted by fire in order to save the lives of civilians. this is how our troops operate. this is fine. that's how it always works. russian troops now look what happens next it is very important how they act. they probably knew that there was a corridor, that we offered to go out, they did not let anyone out. so i want to state the following, that now the responsibility for the lives of women, children, old people, everyone who is on azov, lies with the terrorists indefinitely , absolutely only one reservation. so there is someone there, of course, of course, lies, of course. this is absolutely terrorist logic. and we have here, by the way, children and women. and how do you like that? of course, this is absolutely bestiality. absolutely terrorism and so on, but it’s not for nothing that everyone pays attention, everyone pays attention to doubtfulness, in general, you understand

to present this whole story at the very moment when, so to speak, when they have there, well, it’s clear that there are no chances, what all. ah, to show exactly the last some trump, and, apparently, not existing. well, this is quite in the same terrorist logic, and plus more. pay attention, because in the conditions of informational, so to speak informational blockade of informational vacuum. i mean international you know, yes, that in austria, for example, even for reposting russian media with a russian point of view and interpretation of the russian being in a special military operation. uh, up to 50,000 euro fine is fine. this is about freedom of speech and the blockade of information such conditions, information blockades, of course, no one ever and does not tell anyone about what it means again. i will repeat. yes, that our side many times many, many, many times offered the opportunity to get out of this very azov steel repeatedly. it is clear that no one heard this many times the last time it was a couple of days ago the corridor, please come out. well, no, they

know what's up. uh, so to speak, did not use this application. and now and now it's understandable. now a little scary. yes, and that's why they present these, either fictitious, or the person who sees these shots, of course, would make an impression. if one of them would say, it's now 8:00 in the morning, we are on the azov-stal, then, uh. well, let's show you show us some evidence that we're here? yes, somehow tell us about this territory, when you got there, well, somehow everything should be agreed. and here it turns out some kind of confusion and plus. here is the woman speaking. yes, there is no reason for me to stay here. no, they wrote it down. children. they say you want, yes, we really want to go out and so on, that is, there is a woman who, i think, there are so many who said, it makes no sense for me to stay here. i don't want to stay and the children who don't want to stay there want to get out the devil, if they are there, as they show there, this is a ukrainian propagandist. if they didn’t let them go out for some devil, when they say in the same video without ambiguity that we want to go out, which one, please, very correctly. that

is, they are hostages, or something, but look , they categorically deny the fact that they are there? civilians and i have great respect for yuri ivanovich but i think that we should not, but follow this logic, there are no civilians there. now i will explain olesya brilliant himself. eh, here is the concern of parsing this video. uh, highlighted the story from february 25 to march twenty-fifth. now colleagues, dear viewers. remember february 25 - this is the second day of a special military operation at the time of february 25 on the territory of mariupol, not that no one was in the bunkers. mariupol was absolutely completely absolutely completely. this is important under nazi control. there was not a single russian officer, russian soldier. yes, maybe the marines were coming. yes, paratroopers came up, but at the time of february 25, from the point of view of logic, they should hide in bomb shelter. they became in azov. it just doesn't make sense to confuse the second moment of the very important february 25th.

they themselves, pardon the expression, absolutely burned out, because on the second day they created these bomb shelters. closing people there has absolutely no logic second point. i watched this video in its entirety. as olesya rightly said, children are indeed available, women are available, mothers are available. a question about the lack of food . we appeal to international organizations, but no one will be able to see a single nazi on this video, that is, people who, it would seem, should at least be nearby, at least give some comments that we are together with them in the hall, this is not happening. yes, there is indeed a bunker. yes, indeed there are people who are on camera, this is very important. now look, again, the third point, a very important absolutely calm emotional state. they say they need help. i want to remind you that how the dough is a terrible story with provocations, for example, in donetsk when people are

shelling, yes, so that means the ministry of defense of the russian federation, and given the graphic position on azovstal, russia is offering militants and mercenaries today from noon. lay down your arms, a corridor will be opened to exit the factory without weapons and supplies, that is, look like this russia offers militants and mercenaries today from noon to lay down their weapons, a corridor will be opened to leave the factory without weapons and ammunition. that is, look. here again, right here, yes, ah, before your eyes, once again, that is, russia once again offers to go out without weapons and ammunition to everyone who wants to do this. azov steel is obtained. well i hope we're pretty clear. yes, everything, it was articulated and read. those who do not want to leave, uh, from the territory of azov, terrorists simply appoint themselves. if if their statement is true,

if they are not false regarding the presence of a large number of women and children and so on, and if they do not take advantage of this offer, they themselves the wife is officially called terrorists with all that it implies, and with terrorist methods, it turns out that they are the terrorist logic of interaction with civilian and peaceful women, and children, and so on. and what to do with terrorists? please tell me, it seems to me that there can be no two opinions and any israeli, any american, any russian, what is being done with the terrorists, the girl alice should go out along this corridor and with her mother, if there is a mother, maybe , i urge the end to take advantage of this husband . i don’t know who my mother has, but to fulfill her duty, but alice must go out if she is and if the mother of this girl alice thinks about her child and wants the child to live, but does not want to. see her among the ashes, that's the final touch, in my opinion. in contrast, you noticed dear viewers experts

as olesya says yes, a person is standing in a studio in moscow but at the same time this is an emotional pain, an emotional impulse. it is absolutely felt look carefully at this interview, namely interviews of people who are, as it were, in bunker. i just remember when people came out of mariupol from the basements, how they spoke to the explosion, how they cried? i'm not talking about women, as she says now, olesya is worried about these people there, i do not want to seem cynical, but i did not find any despair. i did not find absolutely any emotion that would show that people are ready to do absolutely everything to save in their lives, so indeed the centers of special information physical operations work in ukraine, this video is a production. if if someone really theoretically stayed, then our army and leadership provided, in my opinion, more than seven or eight humanitarian corridors, no one did this , but the most important thing is that it is very important not to be conducted, they really are trying to create. there are some doubts, maybe there are no

civilians there, and therefore i hope that the terrorists will be destroyed, even if such a physiognomic analysis is made, but any woman knows, yes, if she sits at home with a child who has been sick for a week, what does a child look like ? what complexion do you have child? yes, the child is pale as a moth, here we see children, well, enough of such energetic ones. well, i can not say that the blush, but in general absolutely such healthy children. even women, then it is worth going on a diet for a few days, the face becomes. just here haggard. here we do not see. here are such haggard faces in the burning eyes, but questions arise. sorry later. of course, i was touched personally by the fact that the one who filmed this video, and this video is speaking, which means, of course, in ukrainian, and the children speak russian. yes. children they say in russian so statements on the defense continued. we appeal to all military personnel of the apu and foreign mercenaries under the qin. the attitude of the kiev authorities awaits all of you an unenviable fate,

do not tempt your fate, but make the only right decision to stop hostilities and lay down your arms now, wherever your handlers force you to fight for these nazisms. the russian federation guarantees to each of you the preservation of life and compliance with all the norms of the geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war. like this has already happened to the servicemen of the armed forces who had previously surrendered in mariupol, what's the difference? yes , really, you can see how what's the difference? we've seen it all, all these videos, but i don't even want to speculate on it like that. yes, but we remember the video of the treatment of the relationship with our prisoners with our guys. we heard. uh, their appeal, so to speak, how are the human rights ombudsmen , who at first muttered something that i don’t have confirmation, then said that the geneva convention type is not very interesting in the country in a given situation and so on and so on and so on. uh, russia once again says that we guarantee everyone's life and more

, so to speak, the appeal that is required by the geneva convention, please, i want to tell you right away that the russian army and i am a woman. you and i understand, emotionally, responsible for our children, who are bombed every 30 minutes loudly. do you speak from all directions? azov stood up and said that there are corridors, come out, when even a woman with a child hears this information in that there are signs of staging. we understood it. and what do you think, well, well, well. and what prevents the azov people who settled there? well, they recorded the signs of the setting. well, what we will be is zelensky producer, talented guy and so on. well , listen, explain what to him, what else we can do, so to speak. he does what he knows best. what is your name? the head of the commander, he is not indisputable, and he is an ideal producer as a producer. he is beautiful. well, i'd like to see. so he forbade them to surrender. you heard yes banned. i just understand this logic, so

he has no choice. so, either do not give up, that is, die or surrender to the russians. and then, when they are exchanged to get, so to speak, there is a tribunal here and a life sentence. so to speak, for treason of the motherland, but it turns out that they also have such an unenviable fate there, you know, but the fact that their fate should already be unenviable is 100%, if you and what they did in the donbass and in general what they are doing and are doing now, even with their own population, the ukrainian population is already it is clear that they should have one supreme measure. here, in my even good disposition, people do not deserve another good house. if so, they behave like terrorists absolutely, but, but here it is worth noting what aleksandrovicha said at the very beginning of the program, this should be emphasized, this should be stopped. this needs to be discussed. so, in the meantime, we are russian people, they even want to recognize the country of russia. sponsor of terrorism, this was stated by a representative of the

american state department for this price list, they are nothing do not suggest being explored the possibility of anyone ever being out. uh, i'm just wondering, here they are studying, and it's not him, it's the americans, but nonetheless. okay it does not matter. they are the state department. here they are, so they study the facts there. that's very interesting to me. after all, there are a lot of facts. uh, a bunch of facts that are strictly opposite, namely, so to speak. e, the work of ukraine by ukrainian apu in residential areas. we talk about it every day. we include you, like all these cities, where the elderly quarters. works methodically and purposefully say artillery. uh, ukrainian apu and national battalions. it's a fact, not at all. if you don't want to study it, i think it's a fact. yes, we showed you. we showed you a point that flew to the center of donetsk, where there were dozens of dead and hundreds of wounded , this is a fact, i wonder if it’s not a fact, it means years and years with tens of hundreds of corpses. children including yes, almost 200 children died during this time 200

children. no, we have a question for you. actually, this is a fact or not a fact, well, it’s clear that he won’t hear us, because no, he’s in a cocoon in information cocoon. yes, look how we delivered the formed ones alive from the cellars of mariupol, this is ours, this is our guys, they get these ones not exhausted. by the way, this is what people who are just coming out of the basement, who have been there for several weeks, look like. this is what people look like, and do you know who was walled up there? ah, the azovians are studying the azovians, so i know this is a fact, in fact, irony can be this bitter on the one hand, alekseevich, and at the same time she is with full, so to speak, awareness that the situation is not to be reversed. scourge. you can't break the butt. and they have no butts. let me tell you as a specialist in information and propaganda operations. what is a fact? uh, in the understanding of those who are now studying the facts, there is a basic

plot. he is headlined as a russian sponsor of terrorism, when the plot is announced further, the price of the question is to find facts, uh, real or if it doesn’t work out real, then uh better fictional, but well-staged staged uh, to prove it, that is, the logic is not that there are facts, and you draw a conclusion from them. and there is that you are a conclusion, and you are collecting facts for it and facts that do not fit into the already announced conclusion. by definition, you are not interested in the fact - it is a subordinate instance in relation to the basic plot. they are the other way around, obviously. listen very accessible and, in my opinion, absolutely. well, this is how it happens, there is a conclusion.