ivan alekseevich is an attempt to ignite a second military conflict, or a is testing russian red lines. yes, although russia already. it seems to me absolutely unambiguous. uh, she said that this is an unacceptable situation for her, what's going on? it 's too early to say for sure, maybe, uh, a simpler version of that statement, what? simply nato, the official is working out the standard program there is a visit and it is pronounced what nato officials always say, that anyone can enter the open door policy, especially ukraine and georgia since, after the bucharest summit in 2008, they formally entered such a path leading to entry in the future, the doors are especially open for them. this is a rather routine statement, which is always said, but i

apologize. yes, here i am forced. just a different version. eh more, uh, more dangerous. it consists in the fact that, of course, against the background of current events, even such routine phrases acquire a completely different character. e has a different meaning, so uh this is a provocative u statement. uh, which is on duty a statement that in the current context sounds provocative or is really a desire to uh tickle. uh, russia's nerves to try to inflame its diplomatic military-political attention, that you already have a conflict situation here. but we must also pay attention to this post-soviet, to this part of the post-soviet space. and does he perform such a special task, but for carrying out this provocative statement. this is let's see. i

think you need to pay more attention here not a this statement, because what the nato officials will say more or less is clear a on how they will react, but the georgian authorities and uh, will this have any consequences in georgian domestic politics, because uh, the georgian authorities have been holding very much for many years. uh, a balanced balanced policy, and even against the backdrop of the crisis in ukraine that has already begun, they said that they are in no hurry to join nato, let's see, uh, we see, uh, in this case, that uh is the same as here with finland sweden alone dragged now b- dragged them. let's see how the georgian leadership will evade this, but also, most likely, and this statement is from the georgian opposition, supporters of saakashvili who will see how

exactly the official georgian authorities will evade and try to play some kind of another internal political, but internal political game as a whole. this is, of course, a rather irresponsible statement. you know how it is, how it ends, even if this one has such an on-duty element that i mentioned. uh, in the beginning - from my point of view, this is just unprofessional behavior in uh, the current situation. well, i don't think it's quite a common statement. well, it’s impossible, even if yes, james is a political person, he is not a technical bureaucrat, yes, and he has been in this position for a very long time, and i personally knew him at one time. yes, he is really a political person, and he could not help but understand him, and he naturally understands very well that russia

openly said that for her the formula april 2008. the bucharest summit that ukraine and georgia was once unacceptable categorically russia demanded in its security guarantee package that nato abandon this formula. nato flatly refused to abandon this formula, the result of a military special operation in ukraine, he can not understand this. moreover, i completely agree with you. ivan alekseevich that georgia by the way, in the last few months, the last 2 months behaved very prudently. she did not join the anti-russian sanctions there was loud rhetoric that we now urgently want to join nato, and so on and so forth, and behaved even quieter than much quieter than sweden and finland, who are holding public hearings about whether they should join nato, uh, or attack here too this is the statement about poturaev looks. that 's exactly it. like a delay, just like a provocation. you

know what noted. here is the fact that the west and nato continues its former line of drawing various countries into nato along, uh, the entire territory, how great we are, and so on, and this maybe it goes on well, but for the first time we see how they get somewhere a resolute no somewhere, somewhere a soft avoidance of their uh, insistent requests. and this is much more valuable than the fact that they play their former line in this there is nothing surprising they can do. it's a little more brazen more provocative in the current situation, but not what they get in different parts of the world. this is what matters. and if, to one degree or another, they get this no now in georgia, this will also be very important. do they have the strength to arrange in georgia, the same thing that they did in pakistan after the pakistani no. this is what we'll see. i don't think it's enough. so i just wanted to move on

to the subject of, uh, from which countries does the united states get an unequivocal no, one of these countries is saudi arabia, the united states is known to be putting pressure on saudi arabia so that it now increases its oil production dramatically to weaken russia well, of course, in the first place to reduce, and those inflation to lower, the price of benzyl. which e we observe, and in the united states but the united states fails. and saudi arabia is really telling the united states an open no. and today, even the wall street journal, citing american and saudi officials. it was written that now the us-saudi relations have escalated so much. that is unprecedented, which has never happened, never in the entire history of us relations with the kingdom of saudi arabia, and it has come to the point that allegedly, but the crown prince. uh, mohammed

bin salman yelled at us national security adviser sallion a.i. e. saudi arabia refused the visit of the minister of defense to the united states, floyd. austin in reyyan, really such an extraordinary step. and vladimir alekseevich do you think this is something opportunistic connected with personal hostility? between biden and ben salman with a case, hasho, hashog, yes, where, uh, there was a lot of pressure on saudi arabia and ben salman personally, or are we dealing with a structural, but a change in saudi foreign policy diversification and irreversible changes in us-saudi relations. uh, briefly, on the second issue, we are dealing with a structural change in the system of international relations. as for the first part of the questions, you need to understand that you do not need to

run off the hereditary one. and this is what americans can not understand, the concept of respect for honor and dignity today, unfortunately, is not in vogue in the west, but in the east there is a fundamental concept. uh, respect is the fundamental concept of the sun, the face, if you like , of the one who cannot be offended and disrespect, which today the west demonstrates relative to the east and work in exactly the opposite direction. what does it mean, if we are talking about europe, uh, then it has plunged itself into this very non-existence and it becomes such, whatever the colony of the united states of america, the east is not ready for this. for example, saudi arabia has agreements with a large number of partners. it will come out, but the development of relations with china will not be easy, but it is obvious that we will be talking here, including about oil supplies and, obviously, rather only yuan, a and uh, here, uh, there is a partnership with russia, it is also not simple hmm but unlike the

era of bipolar confrontation, we do not have, uh, ideological contradictions. we are building our interaction on the basis of national interests and on the basis of sovereignty, namely sovereignty. as such, today it is fundamentally important for the world, including saudi arabia, therefore, as with the west, crush. uh, how the americans crushed europe definitely will not work not saudi arabia not uh, china is not south asia and definitely um, it will also be difficult with the post-soviet east, that is, central asia with the middle yes, uh, and the southern caucasus, because the americans are trying to project arcs of instability through arcs of instability. they hope to return to the ideology of controlled chaos and shape the future of the world order by subordinating europe, but this is impossible. in our current stage, and even the small and medium powers of the systems of international relations, but will be

restrained from projecting this instability, not that regional but turkey refrains from having to be part of the anglo-saxon world today, although earlier throughout history. she very often stood in the orderly ranks of this very western world. today this is not the case today, the statements of the zankara sound completely different, but the statements of the small powers. uh, they resist it would seem that the hegemon, including georgia, which behaves , uh, quite carefully, but in the current situation. uh, restrained if you will, though she was known to be part of a partnership before then. for the sake of peace, nato and we remember exactly what. eh, this is it inclusion in the western world was assigned the role of inclusion was assigned, turkey, namely the turkish military personnel trained the georgians during e, this program is a partnership for the sake of peace and do not forget that there is a very large amount of

property. there are children's colleagues in adzharia, in particular in one of the regions of georgia, a and. e. in this case, this inclusion through turkey to the west, a played a negative, e, role from the point of view of the west itself, because it turned out that turkey is in the post-soviet space, in particular. well, i already silent in the middle east and other spaces, it does not behave about the west and one should not think that it is pro-russian, it behaves about the turkish and realize their own interests in spreading their own influence in the south caucasus and in many other regions and also, uh, completing the behavior and other rational countries of the east as opposed to the complete irrational behavior of their western counterparts. and i absolutely agree, but in addition to the united states, the european union, uh, puts pressure on the russian economy. and now the sixth package is being discussed. there

are more and more statements about eu sanctions against russia that it will include energy measures or energy restrictions, including on russian oil, and today the german foreign minister lena behrbock said that before end of this year, and germany intends to abandon russian oil, and then after that, russian gas, while in the european union itself, there is no unity on this issue, in particular, hungary announced that it flatly refuses to support the oil embargo against russia a alexey igorevich how do you imagine the prospects, and the energy restrictions on the part of the european union are the prospects for our relations in the field of both oil and gas. well, you know, verba, you learn her background, uh, her party affiliation would gladly announce the rejection of oil altogether and the transition to some exotic forms of energy supply

in germany, but uh, there is a fundamental basis and the german economy depends on energy from russia very much and uh, they have to wag between pressure from the aggressive. uh, so let's say it can be about the american lobby within the eu, which, uh, is trying to push through such uh, hydrocarbon anti-russian measures already now to the maximum and at the same time, putting germany out of an advantageous position in relation to itself, that is. raise the question of their ability to influence and shape the policy of the european union. what about the end of the year? well, the end of the year, first of all, it's quite far away and uh, these, uh, so let's say politicians don't tend to u look uh, away and uh, assess the consequences

such statements be responsible for those statements. this time. secondly, oil is, uh, a specific commodity that can be transshipped. uh, into some container and transfer to another market. and that's just enough time for the system to readjust, because it's one thing when you give up something and in doing so make, uh, stop mining, and it's another thing when it's that ball just redirected to other markets or even more soft mixes with some other oil, new grades appear, formal they are recognized by the buyer or regulator as non -russian, but at the same time everyone understands. where from where and where does the wind blow, because any uh these actions, they lead, uh, to an increase in prices, they even cause a statement to increase. already led to an incredible, and then because it is the foundation

of the economy. uh, it drags pushes up all inflationary expectations. we see this especially, of course, in the gas sector. well, we have already said that the rejection of russian energy carriers for the european union means, first of all, deindustrialization already now. and in the european union, an unprecedented increase in prices, and on a gasoline on fuel. we'll take a break and come back to this studio in a few moments. a great miracle that takes place every year, will the holy fire again descend on the tomb, lord, the events of which the orthodox world awaits with trepidation? the convergence of the holy fire live broadcast from jerusalem on saturday on the first

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need from different cards is in halva, just one card for everything. there's a big game on the air alexei igorevich well, we've talked about the prospects for russia 's european relations in the field of oil, but in gas. ah, now the european commission is looking into whether, uh, it is acceptable or not acceptable to transfer it to settlements in rubles, which uh, russia and some key european importers have proposed russian gas as, for example, italy announced that they would be guided by the decision of the european commission. how do you assess the prospects? here, uh, and uh, calculation in rubles and uh , relations in the gas trade in general. well, you understand the statement. they are also so diplomatic. they said that they would be guided by the decision of the

eu and not the european commission. ah, the commission is just doing their due diligence right now. i understand legal analysis. he, uh, in general, is not mandatory for everyone and they can to recommend to say that we believe that it is possible or impossible and may be some kind of direct recommendation that those who pay they will bypass the sanctions and be subjected. uh, respectively, the sanctions are secondary. looks like they probably won't get that far after all, because initially they answered uh, a simple question. they can’t now refuse russian gas without colossal damage to themselves recently, khabib, who was also difficult for the deputy prime minister of germany the other day, uh, who hardly suspected sympathies. suddenly he began to see a little, probably, he was prepared by industrialists. can be more sound policy and said that this will lead to disruption of the social order, germany that is not just a day of industrialization. and something like social waves.

and this is really true because, well , for 50 years, gas was what you pulled and pushed europe and helped it flourish. western and it was built on this. e economic development of the industry, including, e, the cleansing of its energy balance. there literally there if you look at, uh, fifty-year-old photographs of the church or the main buildings there. e in european cities were such that black and brown. they're white now because it was coal soot. yes, they managed to uh clean up and now uh they are trying to just cut this one. well, what does this again lead to even the statement of the absence of a physical shortage of gas has led to the fact that gas prices in europe in this heating season, that is, not one-time, but for a long

period of time are found to be at a higher level $1,000 per 1,000 km on the wholesale market. these are unprecedentedly high prices in the end, let's say for russian for russian gas. they paid for 1 month about 9 billion euros. approximately the same amount, they paid for norwegian gas for barely one. you can hardly understand, but in 2020 for the whole year there were 25 contagions for all russian gas. but it's just uh, well, another, uh, another level, another order of uh life and uh, is it economic development? well, i totally agree, first, natural gas. indeed, it is the most environmentally friendly. uh, fossil fuels and the rejection of it or a decrease in its consumption will inevitably lead to the fact that the same germany will be forced to increase. uh, coal consumption and that will put an end to the green agenda of the european union on a green course, and

secondly, yes indeed a in accordance with the lisbon treaty of the european union. individual member countries decide what to import from whom to import, at what price and how under long-term contracts not under long-term contracts, so here is the decision of the european commission. anyway will be advisory but not mandatory . continuing the theme with the european union, and today the president of the european council, charles michel, went to kiev, well, it’s clear that he, firstly, but will bring to the attention of zelensky the results of yesterday’s talks, e byton, with the leaders of west a and give appropriate instructions. uh, kiev how to behave, but another interesting topic that will be discussed is the prospects. granting ukraine the status of a candidate for membership, uh, in the european union. a i this, of course, is absolutely fantastic. well

, it is clear that on the one hand, but the collective west needs somehow. to institutionalize ukraine's affiliation, to the west, to the western community in conditions where the prospect of its entry into nato is zero, but on the other hand, granting the status of a candidate to a country like ukraine contradicts all possible norms uh, uh, on which the european union is based , but ivan alekseevich doesn’t seem to you that the european union, from an integration entity, thereby evolving into some kind of geopolitical conglomerate, which is no longer about integration at all. this is no longer what the european union has been since the treaties of rome in 1957. that's right up until now. you know, the roman union well and the european union, i beg your pardon, well, to some extent a reservation, maybe uh according to freud and the european union, he uh,

of course, was about that uh there is someone else's security umbrella. and you get richer because you, uh, need to spend less. e spend on safety, and in general, everyone considered the european union as such a path to wealth, and now a very interesting situation is happening, in order to join the european union, it was necessary to carry out some kind of positive reforms there, to eradicate corruption and something else to do something, but now it turns out that in order to join the european union, you need to start a war with russia. well, uh, for some reason it seems to me that the previous criteria contributed to the fact that there were more people who wanted to join, but according to such a criterion as get involved in war with russia it seems to me that there will be fewer people wishing to join the european union, so maybe it is increasing, wishing the number of people wishing to leave european relations to be at the

forefront, so maybe this is such an elegant closing of the queue for the european union. but if we talk a little more seriously, leave it irony , there is a civilizational element here. remember why turkey was not allowed in after many long years, even decades, because it is not a part of it. uh, not a civilizational part of europe. why ukraine, as it were, is slightly opening her bangs , precisely because she opposed herself to russia, this is again for civilizational turkey for civi. not merits, but ukraine, allegedly for civilizational merits, for the fight against russian civilization, opens the bangs. vladimir putin said today that there is no reason to believe that europe's position in relation to russia will change , and this must be taken into account in the country's development programs. and this is absolutely true. the former era of russia's relations with the west of russia and europe when we

or they wanted to enter it, or at least tried to agree on some commonality, this era is gone, firstly, because the center of the world economy and politics is no longer there, it is in asia, it is in the pacific and indian oceans, and not in the atlantic but. secondly, but because the current crisis has become the moment of truth in terms of western policy towards russia in the 20th century. they tried in every possible way to convince us that they are fighting us, because we have the wrong ideology, the wrong model of development, and now we only need this model of the wrong model we should only refuse such as they are in the west and everything will be fine right away. we will merge into partner integration ecstasy and we will prosper. now it is finally clear that they are fighting with us simply because we are russia, simply because we are too big and strong to fit into the western world as a satellite. remember, as general blackness said, russia does not

fit in this hat. now you can see it with your own eyes, and therefore our path is a turn to the east and the joint building of a large multipolar peace with our partners. outside the west it was a big game. all the best. hello this is the program time will tell, we continue to work live. i am artyom sheinin, as always today we will talk a lot, uh, within the context of a special military operation that is being carried out by a military unit being conducted in ukraine, uh, of course. the economic part is a confrontation with the completely western world in the political sense. and we have already talked a lot. this is a general conversation. and one way or another , the folding of the entire world order, but today let's start with another. or maybe not from another, maybe these are things related to many of the contexts

that we are talking about when talking about a special military operation, i’m talking about those shots that, literally, a little more than half an hour ago. eh, they showed up. i want to show you these shots again. these shots concern the successful test launch of an intercontinental political rocket, sarmat, at the plesetsk silo cosmodrome. actually, let's take a look and listen, then we'll discuss, please. dear comrades good afternoon, sergey, please, i beg you. supreme commander-in-chief at the first state test cosmodrome in the arkhangelsk region, preparations have been completed for the first flight test of the sarmat missile system

dear comrades, i congratulate you on the successful launch of the sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile, this is a great significant event in the development of advanced weapons systems of the russian army. the new complex has the highest tactical and technical characteristics and is able to overcome all modern means against missile defense analogues in the world. no , and it won't be for a long time. this truly unique weapon will strengthen the combat potential of our armed forces, reliably ensure the security of russia from external threats and make those who, in a half-bodied aggressive rhetoric, try to threaten our country, think. i want to express my gratitude to everyone who took part in the development and production of the new complex. who

contributed intellectually to the solution task, who put the ideas of scientists and designers into practice? thank you very much, i emphasize that when creating the sarmatian, only domestic component parts were used. and, of course, this will simplify, the serial production of the complex by the enterprises of the criminal procedure code will accelerate its transfer to the armament of the strategic missile forces . i would like to once again congratulate you and thank you for your selfless work. i wish you new achievements in the name of our country. i join, and major general kanashenkov, ah, also, ah, added today to what you you see, a added some technical tactics, and the parameters of this weapon. i propose to listen to this

, realizing that, of course, most of us do not understand anything about this, but it's nice to listen. let's listen. today at 15:12 moscow time at the plesetsk state test cosmodrome in the arkhangelsk region , the sarmat fixed-based intercontinental ballistic missile was successfully launched from a silo launcher, the launch task was completed in full, the design characteristics were confirmed. at all stages of its flight, training warheads arrived in the specified areas of the kura test site on the kamchatka peninsula; flight tests of a promising heavy-class missile with a multiple warhead made it possible to correctly evaluate the schemes on the design and technical solutions laid down during the creation of the missile system. sarmat, this launch is the first in the program of state tests. after completion of the test program, the sarmat missile system will go into service with the strategic missile forces. in the uzhur missile

formation in the krasnoyarsk territory, work is underway to preparation of the head missile regiment for re-equipment with a new missile system, the promising sarmat missile system will replace the water complex armat products of exclusively russian industrial cooperation, thanks to the energy-mass characteristics of the rocket , the range of its combat equipment has fundamentally expanded, both in terms of the number of warheads and types, including planning hypersonic units. the new missile is capable of hitting targets at long ranges using various flight paths . the sarmat missile has unique, characteristics that allow it to reliably overcome any existing and future anti-missile defense systems. the sarmat is the most powerful missile with the world's largest range of target destruction, which will significantly increase the combat power of our country's strategic nuclear forces. well , in fact, when i said in advance of this video that, ah, it’s like, uh, not quite in the

context of a special military operation in ukraine , in fact, of course, after listening to all this and listening to those accents that did both the president and major general konashenko you and i are well aware that all this is very much in context , since both the president and the official representative of the ministry of defense made, firstly, special emphasis on the fact that all the components of these weapons are produced in our country. secondly, they emphasized that there are no existing or promising air defense systems. existing anyone in the world does not intercept this. well, and the president addressed especially kind words in his e, so to speak, the speech was addressed not only to those who made this rocket, but to some other people, and whom he warned that this is a reason for thinking for those who are in the swim of the aggressive. he is trying to threaten our country and so on in this sense, the air conditioner fedorovich do you think that this

launch and this video and these words can and should be considered in the context of what is happening now and to what extent is it about it? well, first of all, you yourself gave the answer to this question. just said you disagree. you still do not agree with everything that is happening now, and even more so in sphere. defense industry efforts to strengthen nuclear capabilities of course must be seen in connection with what is happening now in ukraine throughout the world. since we have agreed to call everything that is happening in ukraine a special military operation, but at the same time everyone is practically talking about the war with the west, which, of course, is not being waged directly today, not clashes

with western armies, but is being waged in the following way. but the fact that it is being questioned, in my opinion, does not cause anyone. in this regard, i recall an episode thirty years ago at the beginning nineties. i witnessed and listened to a speech from the podium by academician utkin, who was actually the author and developer of another generation of soviet missiles, which were called ss20 in the west. here he then reproduced a phrase that he had previously inspired our negotiators at negotiations on strategic arms limitations. he said that while my rocket is in service. you can conduct your negotiations completely independently and freely.