that is, this is our diplomacy and explanatory work that russia is conducting. this is the level of our civilization. but for some reason they believe that this is a level of some kind of uncertainty, that we can't do anything without the nato bloc. yes? we will do everything without the nato bloc, and we are now at war with this nato bloc on their initiative , and all these dwarf european states that are trying to listen somehow say that they will not meet with us. somewhere they will block us, somewhere they will supply weapons. yes i'm happy that they will not meet with our representatives, because in the early nineties all these meetings ended with russia partially losing sovereignty. in general, i am happy that our smaller officials meet with them about something , as soon as they met , they talked about something, so for some reason they chose, so don’t talk to them about anything, don’t meet and bring your work started to end without a block, clearly and thank you. truth. listen, we need an explanation nikit sergeevich yes why the hell is alexander here nikolaevich is absolutely right? and here in general, if possible, here dear colleagues, i’m

talking about the statue, this is very important, because we remember, she has the property not to be stipulated. in general, u call a spade a spade. for example, when there was a story about biological weapons that even look at me carefully if the corridor is implemented like that. uh, then the presidents of the country can take part in this. they really can, because among those who are blocked on azov steel, there really are representatives member countries, nationally actually knew, because there really, most likely, there are high-ranking officers and simple mercenaries . of course, we are one hundred percent. here alexander this is the answer to our question. and what does nato have to do with it? well, despite the fact that it is full there, yes, accordingly, they want to meet their own, well, how would the officers be? yes, we will all hear about the fact that in fact, they have nothing to do with the armed forces, well, there are conditionally nato states, because they have been dismissed for a long time. behind the number are just instructors and so on all this fairy tale. we know very well, but the azovians were actively trained by

the nato objectively, that the weapon is the latest weapon that these nazis use, it is nato and in order to use it correctly more effectively, training is certainly needed in order to build this very important defense. and this too. it seems to me that such an important signal, of course, there was a need for external assistance; there was a need for intelligence; there was a need for information ; there are representatives of nato member countries in uniform without shoulder straps. it doesn't matter at all. it seems to me that this is a fact that they will try to hide in every possible way . that is why we first heard from the european macron leaders a proposal for mariupol. that is why helicopters flew there over and over again, the main overwhelming majority of these helicopters. in the end, they were shot down and we know that they tried to evacuate the so-called helicopters and macron calls, and yes. mercenaries

who uh come to the territory of ukraine and then still give interviews to westerners. the media say that as soon as they get to ukraine , they are commanded by the americans, no ukrainian instructors, who say that you should do that fifth thing. no, the americans are doing it, and the fact that it was on azov that they became blocked, most likely, both the americans and the french and 100% of the british. i have no connections. no. in general doubt. we don't have it here either. by the way, come on, we also have one with the other. yes, look, it means that before this appeal, victoria was nud, so to speak humanism and other things, remember there was an appeal from this self-named or self-appointed new commander. brigade commander, thirty-sixth brigade, marines, who said some completely mysterious things on the contrary. well, except for the standard ones. give us a corridor. we must go out, and with weapons. well, just some kind of madness on a marquestre with a path. well, god bless him. maybe people there lie so much time under the ground you find that they could go a little bit, although it seems to me that they have such a manner

means, but for some reason demanded third countries. yes? no, we want to be in third countries, and he turned to france to the states of turkey yes, yes, mysteriously. now victoria nulan is talking about, uh, about this very nato, let's remember, let's remember about dozens of macron calls, remember about helicopters, attempts to break through, and so on. it seems to me that all this is all somehow, this one, this one, on a mosaic , is folded into one kind of one understandable pattern. as you suggest, i by no means exclude, uh, what has already been said here about mishandled cossacks, there in the bowels of this, and they got up, in which you need to help out, but i see the situation a little wider, if you will, in the sense that, in general, this is the moment of nato’s presence in one form or another, not by washing, this katanem, as you said, is fundamentally important on the territory of ukraine. why because if they get it, they don't fight it. i'm sure they're counting on it. we are talking about the paralysis of our

special military operation. that is, if they are there, if, as it were, it is necessary to provide security to these great representatives of nato, then it is necessary to cease fire. that's what they want now in this situation you cease fire. i don't understand, what is the security of the members of these organizations who will come to pacify then or not? here it is necessary here it is necessary to be defined. our side has repeatedly stated. why, for example, any kind of military equipment that ends up on the territory of ukraine of any kind, military instructors, and so on become legal targets for the russian army. and this is already the destruction of 300 slovak, yes, which were practically there are many destroyed examples, they understand this logic, therefore, here comes such a cunning, as it were, move. let's do it in the form of such a peacekeeping operation, it is important for them to ensure their official presence. natal, under any pretext, is sauce on the history of ukraine, so

they offer an easter ceasefire ceasefire and so on. do you know why the most important thing is that they, in fact, pursued some kind of main goal. it is clear to everyone to push us against this chemical regime and from ukraine, but they they see that something has gone wrong, that this regime is, in fact, on the verge of collapse, and now we are talking about the need to save it, in fact, it is not clear. yes, it’s clear, don’t wash, then mikhail sergeyevich don’t wash, so let’s roll nato, uh, the presence of nato in ukraine does not require any additional confirmation from the kiev regime, because we all remember, but the yavorov training ground, which was covered at the beginning of a special operation war . there, quite legally, on legal grounds and thanks to the agreement , nato officers in rank were present, it did not hurt. nobody cares about mariupol and we remember the story of two britons who were taken prisoner, if memory serves at the plant named after ilyich, this is if they are pinners of the surname, and they have a legend that they are fighters in full force, and they are trying to present them, uh, in as such wild geese, but as mercenaries, but it is

likely that these are just acting officers of the british armed forces and e. well, in general, we understand everything. i renounced them. it’s clear nato should be there, it’s clear to zelensky he said that about 1,000 people are hiding at the azovstal plant civilians, he is still ready to exchange russian prisoners of war for a safe passage for civilians and ukrainian troops in mariupol, and here is the castle of the regiment commander svyatoslav palamart. how many more commanders are there alone commanders? in azov , i look, he announced the conditions, after the exit of forces from the mouth - the territory of azovstal, let's listen. vypilkovalas today with the highest political leadership. it is precisely mikhail podolak and david arakhami who declare that they are ready to come to the city of mariupol for negotiations with the medina and slutsky about the evacuation of the military garrison that remained here. we are ready to evacuate with the support of a third party from the city of mariupol with

our small arms in order to evacuate the personnel entrusted to us in order to evacuate our wounded and pick up the bodies of the dead, and the point of this or that, what are you saying. uh, they have so many commanders there, you know what 's the matter, here many drop out due to a number of circumstances, so new ones come to them. so to speak, they will drop out to death and survive. well they all talk about the same thing we need the support of a third party in order to get out of the azov steel and mariupol itself. well, our defense department generally gave concrete answers to all these requests. let's listen. the command of the azov battalion made a video appeal to the leaders of great britain, the united states and turkey with a request to provide them with green corridors and ensure the exit of civilians, allegedly located on the azov-steel, you turned to the wrong address. it was necessary directly to the leadership of ukraine, which has treacherously abandoned you for a long time. in general, you in this, indeed. there is some amazing

amazing strange intrigue. why the truth is not turned to them to the leadership of ukraine well, what kind of terrorists are they who are trying to hide behind hostages to blackmail, and you know the leadership of this or that state in order to release them to a third country. they would also ask them to send them to the maldives, that is, guys. we want arms money to the maldives towards the country, but i know what i would like to say. that's when they take captive they will find a huge number of them tattoos, some kind of daggers with ss slogans, that is, nazi ideology, and after all, during the great patriotic war there were also a lot of national units. including from among the french, so let's not divide them, and on the air we will simply call them not vushniks or nationalists, but simply ss men, that is, when it comes to armed units that are being destroyed by our armed forces, and in the number of these armed units is included, as are the presences. nationalists. mercenaries are just figurative. they need call on the ss, and everything would be for the inhabitants of the city.

azov and the rostov region will not be offended, because they always shudder a little when they say azov, we must name these azov people. well , so to speak in your experts' right actually. listen, though, some general term suggests itself, because you remember we already talked about this, that at the beginning we, so to speak, very clearly separated everything. here we are, batov, it seemed to us that it was fair not well, that's right, because these guys called at all, they howl, and these so to say that they are convinced such ghouls, but it seems to me that in no case do i repeat alexandrovich on your expert assessment with a much more accurate term, without swaying. it seems to me a much more accurate termi. for the current situation, to unite all this e in all these people under one, so to speak, their banner is bandera. it's all bandera. you see what's the matter, bandera who is a nazi collaborator and they are all bandera. here's how they should be called, they are all bandera, that's all , that we have bats, that those, that these are banderachina it must, of course, be burned out and fought, please,

there is a more precise time more precisely more. let's go war criminals. the fact is that on the territory of mariupol, where they want to go out with weapons in their hands under banners, massive war crimes have been committed. and from a legal point of view, these people are suspects in committing these crimes that you let them go to freedom is out of the question from the point of view of western law, to which they do not appeal. yes , by the way, here is the presumption of innocence suspects. and here's back west. yes, i just now drew such a parallel, and there is no presumption there already. already immediately to blame for everything, russia is already a prosecutor there. he explained everything and outlined all the evidence that was not present in the survey back in the nineties. i read it and thought about it, and there were just some scientists. you won't believe they asked. the main thing is how to consider the achievement of mankind, so to speak, not in material culture. and so to speak, spiritual and these scientists voted there. there on the ground

place was the concept of the presumption of innocence, that is, these scientists believed, after a huge question in the nineties, that the main achievement in the spiritual sphere of mankind, to which it had come there over 1,000 years of development, this presumption of innocence was blown there for a couple of weeks. yes, now there is a presumption of guilt of russia and that's it. in general, they screwed up. so let's go out now. or rather, we will call directly the connection with our studio, the correspondents of the online publication. ridovka cyril and masha here he is with us. uh, we’ll find out in touch from donetsk latest information. he was yesterday at the plant named after ilyich kiril correctly. i keep saying, yes, so tell me about your impressions, what you saw, what you heard, please. yes, i saw it with my own eyes. what is an industrial zone similar to the call of steel, in principle, ilyich's plant in terms of its structure in terms of its scale. and it is very comparable to azovstalia. i saw firsthand the catacombs of the bunger. these are all huge. where are you from? yes, you are from

moscow yourself no, i am from perm, i just want to know what, what, so that you give us some, well, an example understandable to us, this is what it looks like, this plant named after tea, here. well, because we are talking, we are, as it were, trying to describe the immensity in words. so to speak, the scale of all this happening. eh, everything. rather, there configured and so on. well , here is some image that would be clearer to all of us. eh, that would be nice. well, i would rather say an image understandable to permians. this is from the perm sverdlovsk plant, which is also just as huge in the middle of the city. and there you can hide endlessly , just here i saw one shelter in which apparently an air bomb had landed. and there was, er, a gap the size of a huge kamaz, and it really hit the basement, but this basement was not so deep, and then we began to walk further along the plant, and there literally. well, every step of the way. you can just go deeper and dig into the ground, and i support our president in

the decision not to storm, not to send soldiers to certain death, because five e, vushniks or bandera or war criminals. it was once argued that five people could create create a problem for the entire department. here is the seed. it's in one basement. uh-huh, understandable, understandable. yes, this is, well, we are talking about this, by the way, we will talk about this separately. we say the time. i will allocate for this to our viewers. now i'm talking about the assault. not an assault. azov stood up, repeat. we will talk about this in great detail separately, which is understandable , what you saw, what you heard, talked to someone kirill maybe but the plant is empty there is no one there now there is no one to talk to, there is no one there, but i saw. uh, interesting graffiti left behind, abandoned by ukrainian troops. they were ridges. uh, runes, ridge. here are two like on the helmets of the ss. so all the comparisons that you make are, of course, the right ones on the wall. yes, they were scrawled to keep in mind. yes,

there were some painted on the walls. well, we see about vova putin there in quotation marks. listen, well, here, here, how to call them? well, really, listen to them even. well, look, clowns, clowns are amazing. okay kirill yes, thank you. thank you very much. yes, if you tell me even more, then that's it, then we say goodbye kirill and masha were with us on direct connection. i would like to say that people from ilyich’s factory were smart enough to surrender there, there was the marine corps, and they began to look at azov there, apparently, they were just sitting there, either to valhalla or to europe, but faith in zelensky is not endless. i think they will soon hand over zelensky, i think they believe, and well, you know, they contact these people there in connection with the top, and they say something there that soon we will come to save you, they won’t save you. well, yes, i understand, thank you very much kirill kirill mashkin is with us, for example, we save people every day, whom were held by nationalists who were forced to

hide in basements. here's yesterday. we have already said that we evacuated from the tooth steel, but people. here they are, with tears in their eyes, telling what they had to endure during all this time to listen. the battalion wanted to go to the sister to fetch water and went into the house to take the rope. i was threatened with execution by one of the legless russian military us. they took us out. they helped us. they carried my mother in a wheelchair very much i want to say thank you. well it's true, we were so afraid of our ukrainians scared that the military would come and shoot and that's it. we were sitting. i say, it can’t be that our slavs shot ours, and then they took them out, there the chechen guys were all given water, everything calmed everyone down. everything is very big. thank you, low bow, however, i knew that it was impossible not to leave. but because, but because russian is not russian nationality. so it

's an adjective. what a russian so now we go directly to the correspondent of renaulti. andrey kazakov andrey hear us. excellent yes andrey i was yesterday on the territory of the city hospital in mariupol, where, of course, the russian committee, we showed you these absolutely terrible footage, discovered dozens of bodies of dead civilians at the hands of ukrainian militants. tell us, please, andrey, what did you see. a few days ago, we were in the seventh clinical hospital of mariupol, and its territory, as it were, is sandwiched between uh, the azov steel industrial facility and uh, industrial zones of the plant, ilyich, such a ledge is small uh-huh, and there are many hospital buildings for surgery, and children's buildings for a psychiatric building and guys dnr uh and russian servicemen were telling something happened. and when the azov

retreated, uh, into the territory, our guys entered the industrial zones and the hospital, they began to practically shoot these buildings at direct fire, and there were people from the buildings, and sick patients were absolutely peaceful citizens, and people jumped out of the surgical building right out of the windows. here but this did not stop the azov people. they continued to fire and now near one of the buildings. a lot of topics of civilians, a are literally littered with a-a, a collapsed facade, a of a destroyed building, a besides, in one of the buildings and in the room, well, in some kind of hospital room, they are literally stacked. the bodies of people on people are not hospital clothes, not military clothes, but ordinary civilian jeans. e dress and so on. they are just piled up . well, by all indications. but it seems

that these people were, but those who were liquidated by the militants of azov were shot by the militants and the ukrainian armed forces is terrible, of course, the story is kind of terrible, but i didn’t quite catch it, but in the hospital at this moment of these shelling , but these executions, of which you speak, there were patients or only staff. no, no, there were patients, just, uh, the patients died and, accordingly, there was a and there were hospital employees, and again, our fighters told a very sad sad story, a sad fact. and when our guys went there. uh, some with the patient and uh from the medical staff began to wear white ribbons on their elbows and knees. well, this is the principle of determining your alien ah and sniper ukrainian snipers. ah, squatted in a

nearby building literally u less than minutes killed three people wearing white ribbons. well , as we remember, uh, bodies with white ribbons, heaps were found right here. you can say a very similar story ukrainian militants kill people for what they wear. terribly, of course, you understand, and these are the same there is no other word for these cattle. now it means something to the international community with a demand. so let them come out with small arms. actually on the territory of third countries, lord do not allow this. okay uh creepy sure story andrey thank you very much andrey kazakov was in direct contact with us as a correspondent and news with a story about what happened in the mariupol hospital between azov steel and the ilyich plant, dozens of bodies of civilians, dozens of dozens of bodies of patients have personnel and three are

practically in front of our eyes . our guys were shot dead by a ukrainian sniper. and here he is, so to speak, he was aiming at the white armband journalists and uh, military personnel tell how they have to risk themselves uh, save people uh people that many of them with ukrainian passports, but which the ukrainian military also shoot and yes, we save, because we cannot behave differently, and it should be noted that many in the west also become aware of how the russian army behaves. they understand, and they want to convey their thoughts, they just don’t let them, and here one person succeeded, but to express what he thinks and, uh, he probably has reliable information, us army rangers veteran mike seddver noted that the russian army shows exceptional humanism. i clearly see that

the russian army to the last offers the rest of the fighters of ukraine in mariupol to lay down their arms and surrender, this is unheard of, some of my comrades in the service call the russian troops the mercy corps, because after each fire contact the guys say to the enemy. if you don't stop, it will be even worse for the americans, yes, who understand, the introduction, so to speak, of hostilities, they are much surprised to call the russian troops the mercy corps, because in general in the practice of combat practice, and the american military. uh, they came military operations when they, for example, destroy the civilian population by mistake, or for some other reason. they call it a very simple phrase, a phrase, collateral damage to stab, that is, in their speaking directly in their worldview, in general, such an understanding as humanity is compassion, especially for this enemy, whenever it is generally

unacceptable to the enemy in this regard. indeed, the russian army and the actions of our uh russian military - how is it? it seems to me, in general, the reference standard of humanity. this is important to say. anatoly let many people in our country give up the question. why, given what these nazis are doing to our guys who are in captivity, given that these same nazis are taking prisoners as a human shield of their own citizens. why are we still giving them the opportunity to save their lives if they look at weapons ? this is a very important crime of the russians - this is the first and second and this is what differs russian people in the global sense russian. not by blood. yes, but as a political nation that shares these principles, russians, as properties, as nationally, we differ in another important point. it seems to me that it seemed significant, here dear military commander. e, i was talking about swastikas. about, but the runes of these here. these

are da zik and so on. i just want to remind you that e azov steel was. e, created by order of the supreme council of the national economy of the soviet union in 1930, and in this sense, you know this ironic because this is the last resort where these nazis got the opportunity to save their worthless lives. this is the refuge of the brainchild of the soviet people, which they try and the soviet history of the soviet state, who do not care, please yes, and so on. it seems to me that this is evil and just to prove how poignant it is. yes, what a piercing irony of fate? yes? pay attention. these are the decommunizers. after all , they are alive only due to the fact that the union built, so to speak, e qualitatively for centuries and in reserve, and so further. yes, only thanks to this, all this all this bastard, which means ziguet and draws these very runes from the es current, thanks to this they are alive.

this is the irony of evil or alexander nikolaevich to you now, if not like a military man in any way a politician. i believe that i found the documents themselves were distinguished by this listen to nobility. i want to say that russian soldiers by nationality have never had pleasure, but to bandage their throats to cut their throats. uh, the heads of prisoners of war, as they do, and in fact the president of the russian federation understands that a huge number of ss soldiers. they have distant relatives in russia, including the actions of the russian army aimed at curing the disease. this is nazism of the brain, and not to cut off this head, and i am absolutely sure that the majority of the inhabitants of ukraine will be grateful to our country and our leadership for the fact that we did not set ourselves the goal of destroying their children, but we set ourselves the goal of freeing our bratsk people from the nazi

drug corruption power and the fact that today we give them the opportunity to leave the territory again. this suggests that our leadership has far-reaching plans. this is correct, because today every soldier killed in the ukrainian army or nazis or ss is embittered parents. these are angry relatives of our states, of course, but everyone who returned home, alive, to whom our country, our military-political leadership gave such an opportunity, but will be an ally for us in the future. i don't agree on this. well, yes, in general, human consciousness is plastic, if they have been there for 8 years, reinforced by such propaganda, they have been able to reformat and recode many. well, there is hope that after all, uh, it is possible to somehow reverse this situation in a shorter period of time. see. today, the secretary with him, alexei danilov, is, of course, well,

the bomb began to threaten russia in you and announced that they would hit the crimean bridge as soon as they had the opportunity. there is no corresponding weapon yet, but they ask and hope that it will appear soon, so russia keep away from alexei danilov such a news came to us today by the way, the head of the listen for a minute, that is. uh, ukraine is, as soon as such an opportunity arises, we remember. now big uh, deliveries of western weapons, approvingly approvingly pat on the back, so to speak and so on, or how to relate to this from a military point of view theoretically. you can even say that this is possible, but it is theoretically that they emphasize it, because well, for every action they will bring them some kind of missiles, through which different anti-missile and anti-ship systems that can be used against land targets are talking about this. as far as this is all on

earth is already real. i'm not ready to vouch, because , but the most important thing is not this, the most important thing is that, well, air defense anti- missile facilities such as the crimean bridge. i think it is blocked with a guarantee of 200%. therefore, there are any attempts, it seems to me that they will be unambiguously suppressed. for some reason, he says this, what do you think about sergeevich no, something needs to be said, but listen to you. well, in general, this is quite a statement that has excited many, well, i must say that there are reasons you think, i agree, i cannot but agree with the expert that to pit such a strategically important strategic object as the crimean bridge, it is really covered by 200%. although threats. uh, in relation to the crimean bridge sounded and before the start of a special war operation constantly. oh well, no, smoke without fire, because you mentioned that stream, uh, of western weapons, which is coming and continues to go, this very one order for 800 million dollars and most importantly, again, according to

military experts. the main, uh, main challenge. for our troops of the allied forces, this is precisely, but pumping up the group that is now on a in the donbass, which is in reserve in the east of the dnepropetrovsk region. it 's pumping her with weapons and, uh, in my opinion. the main task is to somehow block these channels. which go by land through the territory of poland from the territory of a of other neighboring european states, and by rail by road transport and uh, so far, alas, uh, we don't hear about, but some m-th definite overlap of these military supplies. you know it really is. well, i wouldn't say it's amazing. i'm not a military strategist, so to speak. i don't know what's in the way. uh-huh well, in general , so gently sloping, well, such a simple, our simple household russian folk logic, in general, of course, that to interrupt these supplies. well , diplomatic efforts are not enough, probably, it still makes sense, uh, to strike at some key ones, i don’t know . i don't know what the point is called

points. yes, of a special type, so that these deliveries were technical impossibilities in a diplomatic way. it is impossible to block them. why don't we act like this? well, i repeat. i don’t know, because i may, so to speak, do not own the fullness of strategic information . what disturbs and upsets me the most is the news that more states are planning to reopen their embassies, kiev, that is, they have evacuated all their citizens. we will notice them at the end of january. and now they are talking about their action that russia 100% will not deal any blows to the decision. they are sure of it. we are not capable of repeatedly talking with you about when, well, such hotheads, like mine, voiced a proposal. yes, what are you suggesting to strike. and if this state is a member of the bloc, look, and if some leaders like