object and on the restoration of the port, well, it's coming. only time is a very important issue of mining. the port has been jiminated in the water area yes the water area is mined, of course, the uh port is not only more precise, the water area is not only mined, there are sunken port screens and with the support of the russian federation, of course, this water area will be cleared and it will live alive, it is not dead mariupol port a huge number of ships who left the crews due to hostilities. but this ship is a princess ah, a bulgarian ship, though with a port lovato's home he stays here and stays here the crew ah, the main crew left, but five people , along with the captain, but remain here in order to maintain the life of the ship. yes , pavlovich is amazingly interesting to you thank you very much, see you before we met on the air, ivan

konovalova was in direct contact with us from donetsk and mariupol, proof of confirmation. the victims were obviously from the explosions, where he is donetsk well , that is, it is donetsk that thinks, ivan pavlovich does not finish something. much closer to combat what does he say? well, uh hmm well, so to speak, we don’t have explosions alexander yuryevich, so to speak, do not trust ivan pavlovich our brilliant expert military correspondent, if he introduced himself, if he said that he was in donetsk, so to speak well, let it be so it sounds like effort amplifiers links too absolutely, of course, zone. unfortunately fighting . so unfortunately, remember the point that arrived, but not contact. yes, well, that is, uh, yes, it is clear that there is no contact, but nevertheless. it's basically a war zone. so let's, let's, we still realize. let's

realize before sure, please, a map of mariupol uh, and we're trying to yes ukraine uh. i still want to understand once again, which means how important it is to take mariupol even there, joseph biden, so to speak, refutes, says no. i don't have such data. and go to him in response says. and you, please, watch the briefings of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, you will have much more data, dear joseph, yes, than you have now? well, so take mariupol alexander yuryevich, what does this mean? hmm there are several meanings here at once, both military and economic and symbolic from the point of view of the military - this is, uh, depriving u of a key stronghold for uh, the ukrainian group, let me remind you, especially to those who complain that everything is slow, that until february 24 the single most. combat

group. the national battalion of the armed forces of ukraine was located from kharkov to mariupol, it was a single group. in the very first days, the southern part of this grouping was dissected. mariupol eliminated severnaya, which is located near now in the north of donetsk or is now practically in the cauldron, uh, and the cauldron is being organized, the middle of the largest part. this is the size of the group you are talking about. well, the order is more than 100,000 people. that 's right. that thousand here is a single group of 100,000. and what about this grouping without pilots, which was located directly on the line of contact? well, yes, here is severodonetsk to mariupol, that is, uh, many tasks have already been solved, and the southern part. uh, that grouping was liquidated and the shortfalls remained at azovstal. this military value is economic ukraine e. there were two main ports, and

odessa, respectively, and mariupol, where odessa was mainly a container, and hmm from the mariupol port for bulk cargo, that is, coal and wheat. mostly walked. through if in the fourteenth year i do not get tired of reminding. our guys weren’t fucking stopped in the suburbs of mariupol and it wasn’t the ukrainian troops that were stopped, because they all ran away then. we remember what happened then, they fled from mariupol, the city was free. our guys were. over there on the outskirts, they were recalled from there, then 8 years. ukraine could not be fueled by the sale of coal and wheat supplies. actually. i got up so azov. it was ilyich that we talked about today, what is important here, yes, this is a giant huge donor for the economy, of course, this is generally the largest in europe in general, uh, industrial, so to speak,

giants began to fly, therefore, economically, they began to produce steel grades that are in europe no one else does, but we do we don't need this combine. it's clear and the last symbolic is explains, including biden's words. what is he there? and mariupol is the city of ukrainian subjugation, the city that is known in the usa. if you are at a gas station in the state of dolov. ask hmm a simple american what he knows about ukraine they will say i know ukraine may still remember bucha yes it turns out. and now this mariupol is gone. e and this are symbolic of victory, putin and defeat, respectively, of the riders. he will say that mariupol was not taken until his nose is gone, the whip in this mariupol that he is ours? and? no. it they will say another day two weeks 2 weeks, until another geographical point appears, it will appear symbolically. well, it's you, most likely, kramatorsk well, yes, yes, yes, of course, i'll

turn to our colleagues in the guys' office, alexander yuryevich said something to me. now i’m thinking, that’s all, ask ivan pavlovich where he is, so that there won’t be any later, you know, these speculations in balashikha really. no, i understand it, shells in places coordinates, please, no, yes, continue aleksandrovich dear, we are his eldest, then regarding kievsky prospekt, and this was broken in the fourteenth year, everything there are no questions. you see, it's called live fact-checking . channel one bravo thank you very much so that no one has any thoughts look at the psychological significance of mariupol this is the psychological component it is of great importance in two sections the first. look, we see that where the nazis try to take hostages an entire city, the city then turns into a ghost town. and they see it especially against the background of kherson, which was not affected, where

there is not only humanitarian aid, where now in fact people have the opportunity to receive social payments from the russian side. and this psychologically puts a lot of pressure on this nazi government in ukraine. why? because people surrender very simply. seems like a logical question to me. see kherson, everything is in order. people are alive tragedy, we managed to avoid more than that, we saved not only lives, we saved our property, we saved businesses. business prices are ridiculous most importantly, security colleagues, that is, where our soldiers and officers are, there is security and the second moment, and the mariupol case is the main object of propaganda from the point of view that the vushniks are heroes, they do not give up until the last. see. at what high level we are defending and the fact that now these so-called heroes are blocked and the fact that i am sure that sooner or later they will come out with white flags, this is 100%, not 100% they will leave the territory one way or another. azov

steel. this will be a crushing psychological blow, no longer on the civilian population, and according to the vushniks and the nazis, who are stationed in other ladies in other cities in other territories. that is, in this sense, this is a victory, but really the control of mariupol, which at the moment aleksandrovich will not let me lie, had the second largest group of those same listeners. well, i mean in general in the east, excluding kharkiv, donetsk direction, it was the capital. normalizing factor yes, and now it is taken, therefore, this demoralization, on the one hand, and the vysushnikov and nazis throughout ukraine and the second point is a very important psychological psychological attitude of the population, which sees that if the suushniks are, and deny them the elementary rights to leave the city, this is the first sign that this city or this territory there will soon turn into just scorched earth. and this is very important people in ukraine actually. nobody wants to repeat this case, so in this case. this is a very correct, very correct operation. and i hope

that soon, what i was talking about, in fact, shoigu at a meeting with the president. we will completely control this city and, uh, the likelihood that, due to standing up, there will be some kind of mortar shelling, something else is simply to zero. everything is clear. yes, biden also does not want to recognize e under control, because he knows that not only he will be born into the cannon, but also the whole e, the west, which is now, well, present. in fact, in ukraine yes , not by manpower, but by weapons, for sure. remember the plant named after ilyich just a few days ago. we showed you what was found there. well no i know a whole warehouse of anti-personnel mines that are prohibited for use by all possible military conventions. so that's not all. and ivan wand worried too, but in his material showed e that dry american packs. well, in general, completely, uh, everything, in my opinion, that it is only possible to send to ukraine has already been sent. so there was crimea, they said, yes, everything is very piquant here, that the same floor of goats, which itself

is fried. you see, there is dry number 14 and so on, the one that was recognized by congress nazi or there, probably, a nazi organization, and so on, the very same organization is recognized in the united states of america until now. by the way, there was glue at one of the largest arsenals in europe, which the listeners threw away, the russian troops ran away, discovered nato mines of the sixty-world, which are also prohibited, but the minsk agreed to use such a caliber. military correspondent of komsomolskaya pravda alexander kots visited this arsenal and look what he found. here on the same warehouse, balakleya american mortar mines of 60 mm caliber, which mines, were delivered to the zone of the anti-terrorist operation, since they did not fall under the restrictions of the minsk agreements and the ukrainian troops simply bombarded positions with them.

the people's militia of the donetsk and luhansk people's republics here immediately have a table of reference, each mine is packed with fire. here in such a tube. and in fact , it is immediately ready for use on it, an expelling charge is already hung, only to pull out the pin and, in fact, you can launch a mortar, as here in the table reference. the fire is written with a barrel of 650 mm, a little over half a meter. that is, you can safely move with him calculations. probably two people. there is such a law. you know him better than me, the law of transition from quantity to quality. i'm interested here. and how many different kinds of evidence. uh, so to speak, equipment, in general , what nato is fighting how many of these certificates need to be presented in order for this to turn into a quality, so to speak, recognition that, well, yes , we are fighting a little, as you might think, that is, such they don’t actually hide this help, they

don’t hide it anymore, in fact, in fact, the conduct of hostilities answers how to evade in that joke after all. well, they don't have that. no-no, no says, this equipment is everything else, after all. this is not a war yet, but, on the other hand, i repeat, if you put everything together, here, in your opinion, can it be called a nato war against us, if you remember these dry rations, these mines, weapons of the jivelin, and so on, remember the planes, tanks, howitzers , if you recall the electronic the intelligence that they work for them early or the electronic warfare that they use, if the satellite constellation, which, again, uh, so to speak, to the ukrainian armed forces, if it is not an aircraft in action, which is constantly on duty there , barrages and removes all the information they are given. is this not a war, that this is modern international law drawn up, by the way , with our participation? no, this qualifies for participation in these actions. since during the

third world war, the great powers. learned exchange war, like an apartment one large for several small ones. in different areas, therefore , in fact, in the third world, it was called cold, and now the rules of this very cold war allow everything except the direct participation of their military personnel on the front line. that is, this is the last line, not the last one at all, the only one turns out to stand up, you understand, to withdraw all the contents of azov steel so that it does not fall into our hands. this participant has already been mentioned again. there is one

interesting economic subtlety in peacetime. budgetary relations in ukraine were built in such a way that it was precisely those regions that provided the filling of the budget that were considered subsidized. remember shortly after the coup of the fourteenth year, when the civil war was just beginning. many members of a terrorist group. ukraine joyfully shouted. finally. we will get rid of these da-da-dasts on khlebnikov here. now they got rid of the last part, strictly speaking, there is still a well-known to me, still working, or now severodonetsk is the main center

large large-scale chemical. in ukraine, but to listen to ukraine, this is an industrial center. these are countries, of course. here you are absolutely right. there is such a manner, yes, to call it subsidized regions, but you know, as i was told yesterday, uh, one smart person, if you directly quote from zelensky, if zelensky had such an opportunity, he would nafig himself, would have bombed all this, mariupol, because there are these people. they are, of course, the wildest, hellish headache. first means first if suddenly they somehow magically get out of there . of course, each of them, each of them will have a rating there an order of magnitude higher than zelensky, this is a problem if they do not get out of there, and zelensky is constantly being told. any words of encouragement. and we say so to the people of the population. this is an even worse blow to the image, so to speak, and to the turkish rating, these are two. if they are here,

god forbid they get out with someone we expect to see there, this is a blow not only to zelensky, but to everything. that is, it's creepy. headache and in theory zelensky would be happy to sit at the helm of some. i do not know the bomber and finish or solve this problem, but there is no way for me to say this, such an opportunity was not given absolutely with you. i agree. i have a situation of complete sanksang. any decision it will lead to collapse, uh, and all these points have already been discussed politically and morally, but a very significant factor is that anatoly aleksandrovich outlined and the meaning of international law, we understand that, in principle, today it is practically destroyed, but participation factor nato instructors, but who are career officers and who, in the event of a capture. eh, they will testify alive when captured that such and such a leader, by his personal order, sent us to the territory of ukraine to carry out such and such tasks and destroy them. including the civilian population. this is going to be a very

strong argument. and as i think, the political leadership in kiev is afraid. it was this alignment, therefore, was not. now that's interesting, really. if we weigh all these perspectives. here's what i said, first second what you said, the worst thing is still the way out, the worst thing is that they will use our yes, yes, yes, humanitarian corridor, in fact, what is happening now. e is unknown in world practice. we see how they allegedly carry out a humanitarian operation of an american, they destroy cities. we give the enemy a chance to get out. we are giving them the last opportunity, yes, yes, he himself would be ready, please, what is the worst well for kiev to the authorities, colleagues twice mentioned international law. and so proud representative. actually, the profession is lawyers, i can’t do international affairs. do not e comment on what has been said. the fact is that a is really a from the point

of view of international law. we have a definition of aggression in the resolution of the un general assembly of the seventy-fourth year. and there, in general, m-m, the formal reason for participating in the war is what is called an incident of white - it really is, either you, uh, send your weapons to military equipment along with living people. which, by the way, just makes it difficult, and cases related to unmanned aircraft, but from the point of view of legal qualifications, either you provide your territory for the countries participating in some kind of military conflict, but i strongly disagree that the ratings of zelensky's fear of zelensky are somehow connected with the prospect of violating international law, because they do not correlate, in general, with anything that happens in the harsh reality, because all zelensky's ratings are drawn to his image. especially in foreign media, this is absolutely such a phantom, this is a soap bubble and vienna can make the most flagrant violations of, for example, international humanitarian law. we are everything. we have been observing this with

you for a month and a half and yet nothing to him for this word word rating. there is something to say in this. well, there is, as if it is, well , yes, here it is, let's replace it with a word, for example, reputation uh-huh well, it seems to me that in general the institution of reputation, especially in big politics. it is practically absent. that is somehow. it seems to me that even from a legal point of view, this is not a qualification, but one more very important comment. that's from the point of view of what today, in general, the nato states receive from what is happening now in ukraine with some such. uh, very suspicious intensity. i began to come across very interesting articles in specialized publications on the topic of how to wage the newest war in the conditions of urban urbanization, and it’s directly visible that over the past month and a half there have been very fresh works there in the format. and in the format of blogs, that is, but indeed today it has already been mentioned that americans are all they clean up from the air, they almost never

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me so, what about me? we continue to work live, but you see, the jurisprudence of international law has deepened a little. this is interesting, and so to speak on formal grounds. indeed, you can’t call it a double. although this is easier. in this case, the sense is not lawyers like me yes because, well, if something looks like sorry war. it reminds in all signs of war and so on. i would call it this way and not otherwise, but i repeat on formal grounds. maybe that's not the case. but look, what else is interesting, the former commander united forces. nato richard barons he told why the alliance is not now entering into a direct

conflict, so to speak, with russia, and why is it really fighting to the last soldier? ukraine listen. we others are arming ukraine to essentially delay and perhaps even stall a russian invasion of their country. we must admit that from a strategic point of view, ukraine allows us to buy time to restore the balance of power between a much stronger west with a huge gdp and a huge military budget and russia, we must recognize that the ukrainians are fighting. if you want to give us time to define their own rules of the game. we should be very grateful to them for this. the main reason why we want to avoid a war between russia and nato is that nato is not ready. and we should be ashamed of this one thing, but, but it turns out that these words mean that nato is not ready. he says that while it is understood that they are time for us, in general there is a set of some mutually contradictory theses. if here are our

experts, dear ones, they will explain it well. and so on the one hand he says, there is this barens, and on the one hand, a huge gdp is huge. uh, the military budget is much stronger. the photo on the other hand is unfortunate russia, and after 10 seconds it says absolutely not embarrassed, so thanks to ukraine, which gives us the opportunity, so to speak, to group and prepare for this decisive battle. you understand what he won't help. and i am ukraine - this is just one of the stages, it is absolutely obvious that after the goals and objectives of the special military operation are achieved, and new geopolitical reality will appear in this new geopolitical reality, it is absolutely obvious that russia will continue to try to declare a war of annihilation in a variety of ways. now we are not necessarily talking about the active phase of hostilities that nato missiles will fly at some of our facilities there. i'm not talking about that now. i'm talking about the fact that these processes that we have observed before are the active militarization of central eastern europe, the creation of infrastructure for the transfer of all kinds of groups there, including

the latest weapons, which are already now. by the way, it is very important to notice on the territory of ukraine yes. basically, not liquidity is thrown there. the so-called still remaining today. but in fact , now in poland, i will repeat this every time already 5 cents, where western instructors directly train ukrainian engineers with this, and with the new weapons that were delivered there, they were not ready at the time of february 24 for such a large-scale confrontation . i think this is a big misconception. it seems to me that the whole logic of what nato did the whole logic of what they did and in ukraine it says that they were preparing, they were preparing this experiment, which we talked about, yes, in the previous issue, it also lies in the fact that ukraine is a training ground and ukraine in their plans. true, it should have attacked first, and then really all these scenarios , all these processes, which they are now in a hurry to rebuild they. well, yes, the

last very important point would have been implemented in a completely different scenario. uh as regards new geopolitical reality. in my opinion, it is absolutely obvious that today's ukraine is unimportant to preserve statehood, it will not preserve it more accurately in the existing one. state before february 24, it is already unthinkable. and so, depending on how this operation ends and how, well, i will say frankly, its maps, its administrative divisions, and so on, will largely depend on this reaction. of the west, i am deeply convinced that each of our advances will write history, yes, each of our advances in depth is conditional. kherson, uh, there, zaporozhye, i'm not even talking about odessa now. nikolaev, even these are the plans of the westerners. yes, the creation there between the sea and so on destroys, therefore, in this case, they will do everything in order to drag out this situation in order to somehow stop the advancement of our army and our own interests, because now our national interests are ours national security, and our guys who carry out tasks. these things are indivisible. this is one whole. clear. understood, please, aleksandrovich

have you understood this paradox? it is necessary to say that it is not impossible to argue with this, but still the west is much more powerful and russia is modest. then why temporarily regroup anything. i don't understand, first of all, but hmm, nato and the united states, like us, assess the situation and reassess the situation in ukraine every day. this is fine. well naturally adjusted plans are assessed situation prospects. so, i have a question for you all here, do any of you believe, i emphasize , believe that we will lose no, of course you do you think americans are stupid? we believe not because we go to church. well, because we believe in our strength, we adequately evaluate it, including this one. uh, a thing like morale, for example, which, by the way, is in the army. i recently learned this is measured in percentage. want to give examples. come on, look, and when the marines, uh, surrendered more than a thousand

people. uh, our army specialists from the foreign intelligence service, but, based on the available information, they calculated. e that their losses were 43% and they surrendered everything is considered the border, after which there is a freeze the so-called morale and readiness to resist. it's 50%. they had a loss of less than fifty percent. and they gave up. this means that their morale has fallen. that is, look, it is necessary to explain that there is someone who did not understand, did not catch. it is very interesting. that is, if the loss is more than 50%, then give up then then will give up. even those who have less than fifty percent, it turns out that if you give up, then it turns out to be a problem. only in your combat. they gave up here and here.