there he is actually extremely uncomfortable, he forces them to constantly improvise, like giving birth to soap bubbles. ideas that one way or another we are inevitable. so, here we are winning a little more, we are winning, and ultimately this is for the news cycle mode. this might work well. that is, we are discussing this with you, for example, yes, but how much this affects the state of affairs on the battlefield does not affect in any way. and when we eventually come to the point where we need to sum up the accounts and it becomes clear what these high-profile american statements are ukraine will pay the price but i would like to see what minister austin will say then to the ukrainian leader, whoever he is at that moment , i believe that he is forcing them, to these pompous and private public speeches, the fact that they cannot afford those sharp decisive steps that they keep promising and promising, because they are aware. what kind of russian response to this will follow and it makes them very

seriously nervous. well, here's another important tool e hybrid war collective west against russia are sanctions as well and as of today. the european union is discussing, uh, the sixth package. uh, the so-called sixth package of sanctions against russia, which, in theory, should include certain elements, but an oil embargo. at least that's what the european commissioner for energy recently put it. valdis dombrovsky and by the way, tony linking, the united states secretary of state, uh, made a very interesting statement. he said that the united states does not want to take such measures. against the russian energy sector, which will conveniently lead to a further increase in fuel prices, that is, yes and a sailed in the european union, we see very serious disagreements, and about this idea of ​​​​an oil embarbargo, and against russia and i

want to ask alexander alexandrovich and how do you think at all? will the ban on the import of russian oil be implemented by the european union, and if it is introduced, what consequences will it lead to both for them and for us. well, uh, the main thing to say. what about european politicians, but are they ready to pay a high price for this deintegration of russia, uh, the world economic economy, the only question is what the final price will be and politics, of course. he doesn't know anything about it, but economists and businessmen, including those in the leading countries of the european union, are thinking about it more and more. and if we are talking about the next package of sanctions, then, of course, one can say that there is a reduction in demand for russian hydrocarbons, some other additional measures, but seriously speaking, this package, which can be applied, is every time getting smaller smaller smaller smaller but because in fact most of the steps have already been taken and now the question arises. oh, actually,

where we will stop. and what will we have in relations, first of all, with the european union , so to speak, here is the end of this sanctions tour, and here the question is square. what is really required of us? well, actually, the europeans would like us to supply energy at, e, cheaper prices, if european politicians are ready to pay a higher price . price, this means that, of course, there are probably such sellers of energy resources in the world who will supply them at higher prices and, therefore, satisfy the needs of the european council. it will be more expensive. will the european business be able to digest this is a big question, what do we need from the european union? of course, we need the supply of machines and equipment of high-tech products in the way that our economy needs for the purposes of modernization , and here it is precisely in the balance between needs in the european union there

is a balance of interests in our energy resources and in our need for european goods, which, in general, must be defended primarily by european business. i think that's exactly the way it will be. well, the european union has already proved that it is not ready to refuse, at least the european commission recently, contrary to its earlier statement, despite its earlier statement, nevertheless, but stated that it is possible to pay according to the scheme proposed by the president putin a i mean, payments for gas in rubles. and the vast majority of the countries of the european union will do just that, but at the same time we understand that they are strategic. of course, the share of trade and economic relations with the collective west will decrease, and it will most likely not even return to the state in which they were there last year or uh, especially a few years ago, that is, strategically, we are turning to east strategically, our main partners are the countries of the pacific region countries of asia a and. a. that's always. e, when

russia was discussing implementing the policy of turning to the east, it was said that a necessary element and even a prerequisite for this policy is the development of siberia and the far east, so how do you view the prospects for this yes will siberia develop the far east in the near future, and how do you, in in principle, do you assess the prospects of the economic component of the russian turn to the east? well, in fact, it is clear that this one, the second circuit of e trading economic relations that arise in our country, and to which there are no unfriendly countries, it covers not only the far east, but this middle east, the middle east , and latin america, and so on. well, africa of course yes, but uh, what should be said here about the far east siberia, so far we have developed enterprises that worked on the principles of industrial assembly mainly in the european part of the country. why? well, for example

, cars, the structure is a large european concerns, which means they assembled their cars on our territory, well, in kaluga there in tatarstan in the leningrad region. and what is important is that the shoulder for the delivery of spare parts and components was very convenient, that is, europe is the european part of russia - this is close now. if we talk about the fact that we are switching part of our relations of this kind, let's say to china this means that logistics will be more convenient just to the regions of siberia of the far east and, accordingly , such production should appear in theory there along the line. e, means trans-siberian. baikal-amur mainline and that this allows us , on the one hand, to increase, reduce the delivery shoulder, that is, the logistics of a set of components, and finished products can be delivered, please, to a european country, part of the country to the urals. that is, this is, uh, a natural shift in economic activity in our country. eastern part in connection with the expansion of trade and economic relations. but there is another very important point, actually.

well, this is definitely not some kind of gift. for for us, this is still a difficult, uh, history, because we will have to completely reconsider both logistics and trade economic relations, and these are the companies with which we exchange, so to speak, these high-tech products, and here is an important point that must be evaluated . these are not friendly countries, according to which we say they make up, well, about 50% of the world's gdp. but the main thing is not even that, but the fact that they control 60% of the world's costly development research. and this is the contour that we we create where india enters into china, the countries of the middle east . and this means that we and china and all these countries have a task ahead of them. just the increase in costs in this area absolutely. i think this is one of the most strategically important tasks for a more successful

optimal russian pivot to the east. the development of siberia, the far east, and so on. let's now move from the asian east to the middle east to the muslim east today we had a telephone conversation. e presidents vladimir putin and recep taip erdogan in the center of ukraine a. actually. i salute e and admire erdogan's perseverance . right now, practically none of the world leaders is talking about a political agreement. uh, a personal meeting, and even more so between putin and zelensky themselves, is possible in the foreseeable future, but erdogan does not let up, he is still working in this direction, but at the same time, but, it seems, like a little bit on- the tone of us-turkish relations began to change, because recently the united states has also used the whip in relation to turkey. this is how they appeared. well, at least there was a certain smell of gingerbread. i don’t know how much more it materialized, but

a certain smell of gingerbread appeared, because both the turkish side and the state department, but announced that in the company, how the united states gives the go-ahead for the sale of f-16 fighter jets to turkey, which ankara requested more and last year. a vladimir alekseevich firstly, how long will turkey be able to maintain its independent policy of balancing and a between russia and the west. and secondly, how do you assess the prospects, and the us-turkish, e . turkey emphasizes that the united states is displaying a policy of double standards. they did not impose sanctions on india for the acquisition of the s-400, but they did with regard to turkey, what do you think absolutely right, but before moving on to turkey

, one important thought must be said that we need to rebuild not only the logistics chains of the connection with the east, well, mentally, be prepared for the reorganization of this world and realize this one the most real turn to the east, and consciousness must be born, the corresponding action that was mentioned, uh, and the same applies to our turkish partners. we must mentally rebuild our perception of turkey as a middle power or even regional powers. sopro claims to uh, global. uh, i wanted to say dominance in order to be a world power and we need to take this ambition into account exactly. well, turkey has repeatedly stated. what is a world power already. so, these very ambitions of turkey must be taken into account. and of course, they are not supported by enough resources, but turkey has ambitions on this topic. and if you

try to crush turkish pride, like any eastern city, what will this lead to backfire in turkish society. today it is quite negative towards the americans. and there were cases of public execution of iphones, uh, then they demanded money back for these iphones well, it doesn’t matter, that is, uh is quite actively anti-western. uh, there is a mood in turkish society, turkey is trying to balance between, uh, the west, the united states and russia western turkey demonstrates in every possible way that it is undermining the post-soviet space, that it is ready to clash with russia russia, but it demonstrates that it becoming more and more independent of the west , this is, uh, the turkish balance policy. and at the same time, turkey is a hub. turkey is a center of gravity through which they must pass. uh, many other infrastructure routes north, south, west, east, and turkey, on the one hand, prohibits e flights of russian aviation over its territory to syria,

and civil military aviation on the other hand. the republic of turkey does not allow non- black sea states into the black sea and emphasizes that this ban was agreed with president of russia yes, and a. it does not prevent russia from flying to syria anyway, because we can fly there through iraq or iran. well, of course, it's unpleasant to fly through iran, we definitely can. iran is confirmed instantly that we can do it. and this is such a duality, turkey is manifested in everything. the same applies to ukraine such a world politics in general. uh what's good here is turkey keeps trying to be in between despite increasing us pressure i don't see a carrot from the us uh americans use exclusively whip and uh, recently they even started talking about the elections that will be in turkey in a year and as we get closer to the elections. regardless of the events around ukraine and world politics

, pressure will increase on the ruling party on recep taip erdogan, who is showing rebelliousness that does not suit the united states of america. but at the same time, you need to understand and the fact that turkey as a peacemaker is, of course, not an oxymoron, but, uh, it raises quite significant questions. and, if from history with the attitude of turkey to reality, because we have turkish troops, where in syria in iraq they are now conducting an operation in libya there is a turkish base in the frame, it also should not be discounted. and you need to understand that turkey has its own and not always enough, corresponding to russian interests in the post-soviet space. and, of course, do not forget that the turkish republic supplies ukraine with bayraktars, and here are a few pieces, of which they were shot down, and on the territory of the russian federation and everything is quite serious, turkey will try to the last to keep between that she understands that her

place in the future world order depends on it. and another very important asian country that is sticking to an independent policy despite pressure from the west is india and now there is a very big fight for india, the collective west is making herculean efforts to include india in their blog against russia and e against china in the last days of the week, but the cavalcade of western emissaries to india was aimed - this is i, secretary of state to the secretary of defense of the united states a and prime minister of great britain and after them ursula von der. lein, the president of the european commission, also visited delhi yesterday and held talks with the prime minister. india on rendering and fashion and ursula fondyrlyan also spoke at a major indian international forum. the so-called russian dialogue on russia's

dialik, where she stated and i quote that the goal of the european union is the strategic defeat of russia is fine. yes and e ursula von der line called on india and other asian countries to join the anti-russian sanctions, and ivan alekseevich well, it seems to me that the defeat of russia is exactly what india would like to avoid, which neither india nor other asian countries need. i'm not even talking about china, but just there even. to the small countries of southeast asia yes, and india will, of course, strengthen relations with the west and with the european union as part of its policy of balancing, but not to the detriment of its relationship with russia. what do you think? i think that you absolutely right. uh, india is running its own politics and you have described it perfectly. this is a balancing act. and

it seems to me that there are fewer and fewer opportunities for such a policy in modern conditions, because balancing is an attempt to use the dynamics that others create, but not to join any one dynamic, but to use something from the dynamics of some to use from the dynamics of others in the modern world , it is necessary to be independent, that is, to produce one's own dynamics. not a game between other people's games, but the beginning of some kind of their own game. we see, uh, how quickly china moved from preparations to an independent game to a real independent game. we see that turkey, i wouldn’t say that turkey is balancing turkey is playing its own game, both on a regional scale and on a global scale, and not just uh, runs between different players, so indie. i think it 's still to come. here is a very serious strategic

transition from uh s from not joining in the form of balancing to independent production some. ah, some kind of dynamics. i'm expecting india to do it pretty fast, but the last thing i want to say. here i really like what exactly e means, european official european official persuades india because we see that the united states is losing the world hegemony of the consolidation. first of all, they consolidated their own. uh, here is europe as well as japan australia great britain but uh, it turns out that u used to have such a chain of allies. yes, by seniority. now this chain is strong shortened and e the european union, it turns out to be actually the last e in this chain and it is clear that the task of european officials. now look for the

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consolidated before our eyes, but there is also an opposite example and this opposite example is japan and russian japanese relations have deteriorated sharply over the past 2 months , everything that was created literally. well the last decades. probably if not more released, tokyo but, because japan has taken an absolutely identical position to the united states and their closest ally in the uk and european countries, and today there was another further. ah, escalation. well, probably a step in or step in the aggravation of russian-japanese relations. russia has stated that it will take military retaliatory measures in response to those, and the us-japanese. the exercises that they were going to conduct on the island of hokkaido a e this year and moreover, it is stated that this is exactly exercise in response to e, russian special operation in ukraine fr. tokyo, in turn, expressed. uh,

a tough protest in connection with the statements of the russian deputy prime minister. yuri trutnev. it is russia's intention to develop the kuril islands economically, develop tourism there, and so on. and so i want to ask andrey andreevich, who at one time was engaged, including also in japan. e, when there was prime minister shinzo aba, and from japan we heard very often that japan wants to fundamentally reset relations with russia in side of the strategic partnership and build a truly, full-fledged strategic partnership, moreover, as the reason for this desire. japan was called not so much the problem of the kuril islands. and how much is the stratum of distrust in japan in relations with the united states, yes. well , this was especially said, of course, during the period of donald trump, and also in connection with japan's strategic fear of the rise of china. yes. and the

combination of these two factors forced japan to diversify its network of partnerships in the pacific region and not only with india to try to get closer, but also with russia yes, because it is not clear whether the united states will be present in the region or not? of course, russia is in this region forever, that is, there was a strategic interest. what has changed is it really only a matter of shinzoba? diplomats and politicians of the two countries spent a lot of energy on this process of rapprochement with normalization on the russian side, there were certain hopes, the japanese actively invested quite a lot in this percentage, but this process has a clear limited scope. and i think we've just reached those limits. uh, the process can't go any further. japan is a country with limited sovereignty. after being defeated in the war of occupation by the united states. it is in a very close military alliance with this country. the japanese feel a military threat from china in terms

of potentials. japan is certainly very unbalanced. it looks weak in this pair and is such a strategic experiment. japan was an attempt to soften such a rather rigid rigid system that existed in east asia and probe. as far as possible rapprochement with russia , the ultimate goal of this rapprochement was, of course, the weakening of russian-chinese relations. well , understand and many american analysts are reasonable rational realistic direction of analytics. they called it as the desired configuration of the forces of east asia , the rapprochement of russia with japan and the formation of a triangle of russia, japan and the united states, in general, they did not hide. eh, this opinion was published in the press in moscow on many conferences, and with great skepticism, of course, in moscow we have always listened to these arguments. now the moment of truth is not only for european politics, but also for global politics, and this moment leaves no room

for maneuver for those countries whose sovereignty is limited japan is forced to return to its strategic constants of full orientation to the united states, this cuts down any possibility of rapprochement from russia and alexander alexandrovich well, japan also, uh, expressed great interest in economic relations. from russia, they were very seriously developed. japan needs energy carriers and not only. and now japan has imposed relatively tough sanctions on russia, and how this will affect the japanese economy. and how do you, in principle, assess the prospects for economic relations between russia and japan? well, it is clear that russia and japan went towards each other not only for political reasons and reasons for what is needed. how to conclude a peace treaty there, but also for economic reasons. ah, the japanese economy. unfortunately for the last 20 years there has lost a lot in the competition. with countries such as china , that means south korea and other strange

southeast asia, and firstly, a normal sales market was needed. secondly, the competitive, so to speak, resources that were actually represented in russia. uh, what's happening right now is in a sense, again political. uh, such rhetoric is the decision of politicians. uh, as for the japanese business, i think that they are generally a little enthusiastic about what is happening, because against the background of the fact that once again uh, well, somehow the ability of the japanese economy is rather low now e south, e east e, so to speak, part of the world economy. well, in general, in general, the world economy, but besides what happens, japan also loses the most important one of the most important markets. e marketing of their products. well, our discussion today has shown that the united states certainly will not be able to seriously weaken russia, let alone defeat it. well , firstly, because it is impossible to inflict military defeat on russia in ukraine. in principle , no matter what the military supplies are from the west secondly, it is important to understand that defeating a nuclear

superpower, like russia, is possible only in one way from the inside, this is exactly what happened with the soviet union. yes, of course, there were geopolitical miscalculations, like afghanistan was exhausted from the arms race, but the soviet union collapsed for no reason . thirdly, russia is not interested in weakening, and even more so, the defeat of russia, the vast majority of non- western countries of the world are china, which are in this in the event, india will also be in a geopolitical environment, for which russia and partnership with russia are necessary to strengthen its own independence, this turkey, which is in a similar position, and many countries of the middle east, africa, latin america, for which partnership with russia is a way to strengthen their own sovereignty, therefore, turn formation