in the cities, they were simply taught how to hide behind civilians, and the command of the ukrainian gave the command to use all this. i thank you for these answers represent. what a huge amount of work you have ahead of you, so you have strength and patience and good luck in this struggle. thank you. let's watch another video and discuss it together . hmm, there was an explosion at about half past nine. we were in the shield theater. it's not in the basement. i am a husband and also neighbors from our entrance. and the daughter-in-law, this girl is still a little 2 years old were on the second floor in a room, and my son cooked food for the entire drama theater on the street, but he was not alone there, if there were six or seven people when this explosion happened, we fell asleep, but my husband and i got out these people who were in the switchboard neighbor screams, and there are children up to the second floor.

how we run. this is a room, not the third floor. i started screaming when i look, it climbs out. and the girl next door. i screamed, screamed, then i ran to the neighbor's depraved room, where the guys, go to envy the neighbor, valeria ran to get on a diet, how not, well, no, all of them are gone. i ran there. there, terrible shots fell on them three floors. it's happening right now, uh, right before our eyes. let's talk about drama theatre. uh, dimitri. i want to. yes, about the drama theatre. uh, on the eve of the day three, reports began to come in that at first, like, there would be an evacuation, people came to evacuate, it seems not, then there was a message that the trump theater is a new one, we are all going to the drama theater as a shelter. this is a new refuge in

response to this. e. actually, in social networks. live people write, it looks like they are going to shoot something again. now i’m just like a trigger for me if i see it on social networks, where are you starting to collect evacuation on a controlled trajectory? they declare something as a refuge somewhere they start. uh, there do not know food kitchen organized already tension. and the people themselves write. do not go there, someone is an activist, he was no longer in mariupol. he read it from the side. he says, guys who are there? write down the names of someone, yes, he left so that we can then restore. who was there to yes we were able to figure it out. eh, what and where to look? therefore, if you have friends who are still on the territory of ukraine, which is not controlled by russian troops, then definitely warn them about this. if there is any possibility, you wanted to add grigory. the fact is that, for example, yes, the second world war, the great patriotic war, the german invaders, and they created, especially when they left

belarus, they rounded up the civilian population in camps. well, just like that, if everyone was resettled in the village they surrounded them, in short, they set up guards with a bullet with wire. there was nothing at all, no they were not fed, they did not eat. there, people instantly infected with typhus and the germans, knowing full well that they would retreat. they created a network of such camps on the way of the offensive of the red army to the red army. naturally, they, firstly, will stop getting infected. naturally, all diseases. whatever it is possible, and here was such a camp called an illumination, which, not only was released, was filmed, absolutely terrible tragedies occurred there. that is there were just completely peaceful people sitting there , villagers. and so, uh, this is the closest analogy, that is, to create some kind of gathering of people. we saw this in donetsk at first, when they first provoked it, and mothers and wives came to the rally, yes, come to the rally. then we saw this in kramatorsk when people were held back for a long, long time later or the evacuation created a crowd and , in fact, if we talk about the mariupol drama theater, then in just a few days there was

information that allegedly someone from azov switched to the russian side and reported that people were being expelled in mariupol. drama theater and when it is full, it will be blown up. and here, uh, other analogies. i'll be honest and frank. this is how to create a crowd of people, and then arrange some kind of atrocity there. i did not find it beyond the limit, but here, if we are talking about nazism, then, in principle , by analogy, absolutely everything converges and in fact, which they already surpass in their teachers, because that’s all. this is done with such frank cynicism, that is, in their own people, right? yes, the fact is that the germans acted, they acted in the occupied territory. they were invaders against the enemy for them. any person who was in this territory was one way or another an enemy, but here, formally, citizens of the same country are satisfied. these are the things. i don't know how to comment. and now i want to talk to an eyewitness from the scene, his name is vadim sergeyevich syrovatsky dmitry, we can just ask questions about finding out

after all. was there an air analysis in which we accuse and or it was a deliberate mining, but in one hello hello i was in it, in short, i went to the drama at the drama theater. i wanted to leave mariupol with my family, at least to the mileykino people. on the left, near the shore, cars came in columns and left from the drama theater, they gathered there and left. well, the next day, when i went there was an explosion of a very large scale. i fell into the winter, fragments of glass flew for a minute, they fell for two minutes, then, when i raised my head, the drama theater could not be seen, there was a gray fog so dense that i, in short, ran home to the italian quarter. i informed all the men at work that the drama theater was blown up anyway, and they went to help people get out who was still alive when i

was before that. come in, i went that day to the drama theater before the explosion. i came. there were a lot of people there, but maybe my knees said that many people escaped themselves. well, a lot of people died there. i understand correctly that there was an evacuation point near the drama theater. you are just the people who tried leave mariupol yes, they drove away from there, if they had free seats in the car or those who still wanted to evacuate from mariupol , the drama theater came to find a place in the car and just leave. you yourself went out at your own peril and risk in your cars, not military buses. they forbade you to leave, thank you. and what gave us this comment? all the best to you and by all means. good luck dmitry about the explosion from inside the theatre. here's what we can say, if we are considering the version of mining, then, accordingly, they should have been there before the start of these

events, there should be, uh, representatives of the armed forces of ukraine or azov, and it was mining that should have been carried out in one of the premises, because if the charges were located, uh, on the outside of the building, then the people who were in the building would notice this, so most likely. eh, it was done. for some part before this operation was planned, what we saw was exactly what people said on social networks, that initially there were not so many people in the drama theater, they were gathered just a few days before 2-3 days. they set up a field kitchen and gave a message that there was a shelter here, including in some there were announcements about evacuation and there were reports that they had actually been there until that moment. uh, vsu, or manforming? azov, and such a reshuffle happened, what they did there before is already unknown, but the commissions will later be able to deal with this, that is, to establish. ah,

the commission will deal with this, but most importantly, i would like to say that, uh, as a military target, the drama theater was of no interest. this is the first. second uh, our pilots brave guys with a stable psyche. and i can’t imagine that our pilot took, and even dropped a bomb on mariupol, this is beyond reality in general . let's join our conversation. now the deputies of the people's council of the dpr and some of the questions. of course, you can ask leonid hello. good afternoon. please tell me, what do you currently know about the drama theater in mariupol, the theater is very difficult. the situation is how about it is doubtful that the drama theater was chosen in as a military goal, it is not clear why it is not clear. why does the nature of the damage indicate that, and that, with a very high degree of probability, it still happened. not even one explosion, but several explosions from the inside, because there, and when shooting from the air, it is clear that part of the roof remained on the drama theater. that is, if there was an air strike, then

most likely there would not even be a residue in this roof. you can see it on the video yes, and about the fact that they drove people there. yes, people were driven here and offered to, uh, peacefully fit in, as if it was really not a military target and it will not be shelled. and as we see by analogy with kramatorsk, when people were all very, very strongly convened there, and there were no trains, then it is likely that this was just such a provocation. still, i would like to tell you that this will all end soon and that this great victory will come to you sooner. thanks for the comments. we will keep in touch with you. you know we don't think so. it is high time to stop naming such things. e provocations are acts of terrorism and should be qualified as theoretical i am with you completely and those who do this are terrorists , the point is they should be judged for this. why are they doing that? if we find out the truth anyway. after that, we

'll tell you anyway. yes, they are not interested in the truth, what we will find out, they need to find out the picture here and now advertising is being done, as it is known for the customer, the customer, as we now understand, is the very european bureaucrats. the same ursula fonderlen. and uh, the ugliest thing is that in a year, well, a year and a half, they will all leave their posts, and they will be doing something else rotation will take place. and they will not bear any responsibility for what is happening now. and most importantly, they know this very well and therefore. now they are destroying the economy of their countries, they are interested in the moment. these are pure temporary workers, but in the very sense of the word in which it once appeared. these are people who, uh, the results are some kind of further consequences, they are not interested in them at all. thank you for coming to us today, and for today, watch the anti-fake program and join us. lead the fight with the untruth that has befallen us. if you have doubts about any photos or videos,

be sure to send them to our program. we will conduct our own investigation and report the results of things. hello this is a program time will tell. i'm artyom shenin, we continue to work live as part of the information channel on the first, we discuss everything very multifaceted and that's it. i would say an increasingly multifaceted, uh, multifaceted range of problems related to the conduct of a special military operation by our armed forces in ukraine. on in fact, it is quite obvious that here on this foothold, and on all fronts, the struggle continues for what the new world will be like, who it will be, what place our country and other countries will occupy in it. it’s just that right away we are entering such a global level, by the way, every day we talk about this global level of this confrontation. for all the importance of combat

operations on the territory for all the importance of hostilities to encircle the blocking of the ukrainian grouping of the armed forces and all that i will do. here our guys. uh, every day it becomes more and more obvious that, uh, this is just a springboard for a global confrontation yesterday during the broadcast, when the news came that the british secretary of defense and wallace well, this is the one who, uh, being the minister for foreign affairs, uh, the minister of defense of a nuclear power on the phone, in general, talking to everyone in a row gets on e pranksters, when he generally said that well , somehow reminded them that they are ready to release nuclear weapons if they have to , i then yesterday he said that it is generally interesting that he makes such statements. that is, either the person does not understand anything at all. eh, well, as if what is worth saying which likho is worth waking up which is not, or somewhere out there someone already has this withdrawal plan in their heads. this confrontation or

its transfer to some other turn or to some other level may be. yesterday i passed it so carefully, but today the deputy. minister of defense of the great well, another thing, listen, i just want to say at the beginning that, of course, when you yourself are wallace, then the price of your words is still half as much as the words of wallace, especially if your surname is a hippie, but nevertheless, when i heard this hippie today, but i thought that if he is epic, then he hippies so, well, as if in a tough way, listen to him. he is speaking to ukraine. in this war, ukraine must strike deep into the enemy forces to attack its logistics lines, fuel depots, ammunition depots and much more for ukraine to perfectly legally aim deep into russia to to disrupt the logistics, if these deliveries are not disrupted, then this will directly lead to death and bloodshed on the territory of ukraine. the weapons that come to ukraine from the west have such a range to be used outside its borders. this won't necessarily be

a problem. this won't necessarily be a problem. well, in principle, look at this hippie for him, in principle, to star in these series with mr. bean, and he works as deputy minister of defense of a nato nuclear power, but nevertheless less. he says this about the context in which he says this, the place in which he says this. well, we'll talk a little later. maybe there was some kind of music on him there, but nonetheless. he did say that. and the ministry of defense of the russian federation well, i would say so with a mixed share, but seriousness and some sarcasm, and he answered in this way. direct provocation by london of the kiev regime to such actions in the event of an attempt to implement them will immediately lead to our proportional response, which is in ukrainian decision-making centers in kiev advisers from among the nationals of a single western country will not necessarily have problems in making russian decisions to respond. well, yes, very

restrained, very at the same time, no matter how transparent it is such an attempt by responsible adults to put somehow a little irresponsible e people, well, say guys, you are joking with that, well, no matter what you should joke with, now the next question is - it's them really played and joked, or they really have some kind of plan. you understand here when it all started. this also raises the question, but when there is such a level of confrontation, why be surprised if people who, by and large , lose everything in this confrontation. in terms of the place they occupy in the world, because a world that is reformatted according to new fair rules this is a world in which britain, the united states of america and the nato bloc well, becomes someone equal to someone. they are not used to it. it is not a fact that they can exist in this way and why we think that they not ready to go much further than we are. well, as it were, we consider it reasonable to go in exactly the same way as so

many others the second day, but watching the disturbing news from transnistria well, let me remind you of the disturbing news. yesterday they fired at the ministry of security of the transdniestrian moldavian republic, and then they blew up the towers, the broadcasters, on which the russian radio is broadcast there. but today, uh, the news came that two explosions thundered in the village of mayak. it was with these towers that the security council of transnistria reported a terrorist attack in military unit, and in parkanas. and the president of the transnistrian moldavian republic and he also did about this. eh, statement. let's listen to him. let's, i'll listen to him later , the president of transnistria said that traces of terrorist attacks lead to ukraine, but here's what sandu says about this. sandu on this occasion says that a is a confrontation within the region. we do not fully know what it

is, but what we know for sure is that until a week ago there was nothing that would have caused our concern in connection with did not happen with the events in the preface. and now , in an obvious way, some events are taking place in a concentrated manner and, in fact, they are connected, and in transnistria, with the activities of the ukrainian special services. and here again the question is this . why does anyone think that? well, imagine you are ukraine yes, you ukraine spoiled you lately and especially over the past 2 months curators. so you are completely serious. perhaps if you think you are the center of the world, well, you just understand, but the ministers of foreign affairs of ukraine are kuleba? ah, well so, as if, if you don’t look, then well, no

minister of foreign affairs. he is in all seriousness. this suggests that there is already a diplomatic tradition, according to which, before you go to moscow, you call in kiev where he got it from, but he got it from somewhere. he says this, and this means that this is the idea that they are the navel of the world and the center of the earth, and everything revolves around them and they will be protected. it exists there. and where does it come from ? well, now look at another minister of this very, as it were, beautiful country 404. and on this times minister of defense. you look at the joy of this, that means that's all, that is, here it is now. it seems to me that it just started to leak somewhere. this is where it started to melt. here with joy, this is it, and he is with everyone. hello. this i will give the king, just the king. yes, perhaps, i am the minister of defense of ukraine, we are most importantly strange. yes, you are now, you are now all tuned in, yes, you all understand, of course, i immediately remembered. i thought i was reminded of this reminded me of this reminds me. remember

the cartoon was like this, a wonderful children's book here is bobik visiting barbos, but nevertheless, this bobik, he really considers himself the center of the world and his country there. look at this donkey, how he sits at this meeting. well, that is, as if the boys were sitting solving problems, and he, as it were, had already decided all the questions, looking somewhere to the side, because well, as it were, well, about what, well, as it were, ukraine is to my liking, and a why shouldn't he think so if the secretary of defense of the united states, sitting right next to him, with his back to us in a suit, is sitting next to him. he tells all these people here, and for a moment, this is the rammstein base, by the way, it is also a nato nuclear facility, 40 representatives of countries have gathered, uh, it means to discuss how to help this bobby. and this very austin , some kind of us secretary of defense, says the following text. thank you all for coming together so quickly for this historic meeting

of the ukrainian defense council, an exceptional event with more than 40 countries represented today, and we are here to help ukraine win the fight against russia's unjust invasion and strengthen ukraine's defense capability in the face of future threats. i would like to see this group disperse today with a clear and unanimous understanding of ukraine's short-term security needs because we will continue to move mountains to help we still have a lot to do ukraine needs our help to win today they will need our help when the war will end. when the war ends, and in fact, he means when it ends with the defeat of russia and the victory of ukraine because. they will move mountains, once they turn mountains, then behind these mountains, so to speak, their future is bright in the first way. i have a question for you anyway. here, uh, the statement of this very hippie in a good way. yes, the presence of, uh, ukraine's leadership, which, well, is in this perfect idea

that you can go anywhere, far away, these wallace and hippies, who also imagine what yes, our ministry of defense is responsible. i have a question for you. what do you think of the response of our ministry of defense with that message with that the signal that it contains that the guys type can fly back very hard enough for the guys to gasp or in your opinion. the guys are seriously able and ready to take the confrontation to some next level or turn, as you understand, of course, the guys are now convinced that they are succeeding, convinced, uh, due to the huge contradiction that exists here inside of us, if they can absolutely calmly eat everything on the train in lviv with the whole political team to get to kiev to hang out and return and not a single russian bomb fell on them on the road,

it gives them an inner feeling that everything is fine. we explain this by the fact that we, as it were, have assumed some obligations in relation to kiev, the city of kiev means that we are humanists, that we are conducting a special operation, you understand? we are trying to explain this. nobody hears this. there is a right strong force shows that we can drive from poland to lviv and you will not see a single one could drive after yesterday the ministry of defense confirmed that it is starting to work on here these, uh, stations not a fact, now they can, because , well, after all, ukrainians. she confirmed that they have a problem. you see, i'm talking about the fact that they have accumulated a feeling of impunity, they have accumulated a feeling that russia can already be done. kozya understand, yes, because russia seems to be how the operation is carried out there and it seems, like something, maybe it turns out, but it does not get out of the framework. ukraine , she does nothing, except what she does in ukraine a. here we will turn 40 countries into this ukraine into a huge front into a united front. why

so satisfied and happy this secretary of defense, because they all really now feel like the center of the earth, because they are solving the main historical problem of the last 50 years of the usa and the entire free world there. this is the problem of pacifying russia, yes, and they are proud that thousands of ukrainians must die for this idea, so that tens of thousands of tens of thousands. yes. if you need hundreds of thousands of them, that would be great. it will be a great feat in the name of western civilization. you see, that's all that allows them to behave this way. the problem lies elsewhere in that they are not very aware that e russia is a country with which many things are simply impossible to pass, you have now begun to contradict yourself. no, you started by saying that they have a feeling that some things from russia can work. and now he says that they can not ride. well, i’m talking about how to figure out what will work, and what’s not,

and no, i’m talking about what they are not able to understand, but i’m already saying for us that we understand perfectly and give ourselves report that from a certain moment for us, too, the rates will be completely different, for example. uh, if, relatively speaking, all these 40 countries will begin to actively intervene, and as a result, weapons will begin to appear there, and even military specialists, who, in principle, uh, should not interfere in such warriors. well, there are heavy systems, you know, there, in aviation, aviation should begin to fly into the territory of ukraine. come on, aviation. also aside , here's your bet. that's how high you estimate the chances that the words that these systems will appear there, and these words are already being heard there, that german tanks will appear there, further pards - not the newest tanks, but nevertheless, these are tanks yes, there will be problems with ammunition, and so on and so forth, after all, this conversation is about how much their verbal informational self-satisfaction is. or is it already a plan to go to the

next level of military confrontation. this is no longer a plan. it's already decided. it's the tanks already on their way. first, they are chasing ahead, there are our old polish seventy-twos. there, the germans are being bullied so that they finally pay the concern there, uh, and the schols so with the last effort, delivery already. uh, the supply of these old, uh, leopards, is in the making, accordingly, in this case, more or less suitable air defense systems are already being excavated everywhere, and that’s it. already decided. they have already decided that it is possible to act that way, you know? we are really at a very scary point in historical space, because, uh, as soon as they cross this line, the question is when it will begin, this is a purely temporary and purely situational question, you know, simply because uh there will simply be no time to stop. you see, there is a mechanism. you and i understand, if this has started, then there are no longer emergency phones, how to say, no one takes off the red ones, because

no one can take risks. i ask you, and actually everyone is correct then the words that there are good english guys who can launch rockets. this is good, but none of them thinks that one powerful russian missile is enough for london to be gone, nothing at all, they most likely think that something, otherwise how much they can sublime here is still very, very, very much, but, as it were, the rounds of the game before the prolon is discussed, the main thing is that, firstly, our leadership will not have enough. no, the determination to go to the end, that our leadership will eventually go according to the yugoslav option, which, in fact, is the main thing for them, namely the dismemberment of the yugoslav option - this is when you spend 73 days under bombs, and the whole country is waiting for what? well, why are we sitting, when it starts and on the seventy- fourth day, take and say, we agree to sign a surrender, you understand, and this is not

forgiven for milosevic. and it's not about whether yugoslavia ended with another collapse. well, yugoslavia didn’t have an arsenal like that, of course, but i say that this is what they dream of, you know, what they are counting on, understand? but well, you see, but, for the most part, we understand very well that for us the price of the issue is such that today society is absolutely unanimous that if you choose, between how to say the absolute development of the situation to the end, which can be called a nuclear pokollipsis, then maybe in this case everyone answers for themselves with the words of the president. they will go to heaven. they won’t die, but he really said this in case a nuclear strike is launched on us, and we will respond, and then we will go to heaven, and they will simply die. this, too, is still quite a counter strike, which, in general, is now the main nuclear one. it's very hard to figure it out. it 's true, after all, alexey alekseevich, look at the two questions i have here, while i was listening to vlad, that is, in fact . i had parts and now that i listened, that is, we understand that here it is possible

to wind up some levels for quite a long time. uh, well, like military involvement and quite obviously. it seems to me, for everyone, that before we answer, somehow asymmetrically, to stop this is still very, very, very long, and our guys continue to die. and all this time they will continue to die and now they are dying from these weapons for the thousand and first time, i repeat to whom the t-72 seems to be junk. let him take some kind of rpg-7 and just go out. here, as if against this junk somewhere like this in a trench and then, how would we continue this conversation with him. e. this is the first and second, after all, in your opinion, according to your feelings, all these hippie wallaces. uh, that means johnson austins and rammsteins. all the same, they are still engaged in information, but this company is sublimating itself and sublimating the ukrainians

, or, as vlad says, the plans have already been made, the decisions have been made to go somewhere further to another level. well, in the case of the british, lighter social responsibility. flows smoothly into lightened political responsibility, because, uh, mister hippies. uh, no matter how poorly educated he is, he must understand that there is a doctrinal position. in russia, that in the event of an attack on its borders, it responds, including with a nuclear strike. that is why ben wallace, so to speak, playing such political ping-pong with his deputy hippie, he, uh, mentioned, e. these guys think that they are very cunning, when in fact they are talking about simple things, as soon as national weapons enter the territory of ukraine, in fact, nato takes part in this violent conflict. we have been doing heavy for a long time, we make a note, the second. uh, you

probably noticed that the british are very strongly pressing on the fact that foreign mercenaries who are on the territory of ukraine should be considered ukrainian military personnel allegedly. they have all-ukrainian passports. they serve the armed forces of ukraine and so on. no, they say, our military leadership. on it, these are mercenaries , foreigners, we will treat them, since refers to mercenaries. the ensuing consequences and in fact. this is a very serious statement. and it should be done here, unfortunately, now, during the special war of the operation, it has become obvious that only nato is trying to imagine that this is a local conflict and only ukraine is fighting. and we, uh, we are also playing this game to some extent, and we are talking about the fact that ukraine is a nato proxy, but we are not at war with nato . so i specifically checked with the military leadership regarding this. here we are not at war, but in if heavy weapons arrive, she will, if we fix it.