unfortunately, we see that calls for peace to end the conflict as soon as possible are gradually fading, and they are being replaced by militant rhetoric calls for victory. but it is necessary to understand what the word victory means if it means self-destruction and the economic liquidation of europe, then i do not think that our side should move in that direction. well, it seems to me that the president of bulgaria is absolutely right, and we said this in this studio, that europe is being used as second cannon fodder. uh the united states in the fight uh against russia i i want to ask oleg nikolaevich barabanov a. firstly, is it fair to believe that each next step a to increase pressure on russia , sanctions on the supply of weapons to ukraine will lead to an increasingly serious deep split, a in the european union, and secondly, how likely is that point of view, expressed by the president bo will still be gaining more

influence among the european elites and they will finally begin to understand what is for them. uh, what does this policy lead to? yes indeed. e, with on the one hand, it must be said that the european union, in its previous yes, e packages of sanctions, which were agreed very quickly for 27 countries and very quickly imposed on russia, showed a fast consensus that was not typical for it, since in previous sanctions periods. always. it's been a long time, there's always been a lot of controversy. that is, now the eu is working. still, i want to say, as a single machine, but as a much more well-coordinated machine than it was before, this is a fact, this is an unpleasant fact for official moscow, but it must be admitted, and the second point, you are really right that ah, all those relatively painless things for europe itself are already included in the sanctions packages,

in fact everything rested. uh, to energy carriers to coal to oil to gas. and quietly, still there, uh, stands rusat. yes, but there the replacement of russian nuclear fuel with post-soviet in socialist in socialist countries is a thing, sometimes very difficult, and planes still fly by rosatom, that is, no one in europe remembers this. although i would like to be wondering if you remember, here it is here already e countries find themselves in different economic situations such countries as let's say, like slovaks like hungary which traditionally e, are powered exclusively by almost 100% on russian oil and gas, and other countries further to the west. thus, respectively, the lower the dependence on russian energy carriers, and therefore different positions, as well. this will probably intensify, yes, since, of course, we can already, of course, not claim the status of cassandra

, say that we have moved into a situation of positional military conflict that can continue indefinitely. well, at least for a very long time in the report, not for months, but for years, respectively, and if the european union led these huge yes 9.000 e sanctions measures. e against russia in the hope of a quick demolition of the russian economy, a quick exit of russia from the military conflict, here the eu’s expectations did not materialize in this, even the polish friends of russia in quotation marks said that russia is doing surprisingly well, if they keep this policy. what will it mean for themselves in european countries, we are seeing unprecedented inflation, we are seeing a serious decline in the standard of living of the population. even the elections in france showed this, where the majority voted for radical changes. yes, either for melenchon, or for marin

. it's clear here, the economic situation, uh, and the fears of the population. they will increase in winter. now , late spring and summer, the question of fuel carriers, the price of gas, and the price of gasoline. uh, not that important to the public. it is important for european industry. this is it, may entail. yes, unemployment here, inflation, of course, not on the cosmic er, also scales. yes, yes, we say they are experiencing what they did not experience, probably in forty-five years, yes, but they never experienced what we experienced in ninety-two and ninety-eight thanks to the creative methodologists of the author of our default. and therefore europe yes, it is now economically unstable, one must understand that it is not in such a terrible fall. in what russia was in the ninety-second and ninety- eighth years, then here these things are incomparable, while are incomparable, if these sanctions, but enter the winter and

moi, it really will seriously hit the european population, then it is possible, and uh, serious social discontent and a surge. well, plus this is superimposed on the internal political struggle in bulgaria, for example, the president is one party, the prime minister we also see another in the czech republic, we also see a coalition partner in germany bite a coalition partner. this is the most important thing that dreams of praying. my thesis here is that the russian factor is not only a factor consolidation. yes a the longer this situation persists, the longer it becomes a factor in integration. yes, and uh, the demarcation between european countries and between european political elites. and now a similar situation has developed on the issue of nato expansion, again, just a couple of weeks ago, uh, before us, uh, the west created the united states of nato, uh. such a picture that the decision on the entry of sweden in finland into the alliance has practically been made. and jens stoltenberg said that there would be no

problems if the application was submitted instantly, it will be approved. that's already on the upcoming e in june. uh, the nato summit in madrid, but as it turned out, everything is not so simple here, and the president of croatia, zoran milanovic, opposed the expansion of nato to the scandinavian countries. well, he pursues his own interests, and he linked this one with the case of bosnia and herzegovina, which will not happen yet. e stabilization. uh, croatia will not support bosnia and herzegovina either, e, sweden’s acceptance of finland, even sweden’s finland’s invitation to nato , but croatia still has the right, but for me it seems that the most important thing here, not not in the case, and bosnia and herzegovina, but in the fact that milanovich was blown up, he unequivocally said that the united states would be drawn to finland and indeed. this is true, yes, because the

open door policy is a myth. yes, nato is not obliged to accept anyone into its ranks and no one has the right, er, to join nato, all decisions are made by the truly united states and their closest allies in accordance with their interests. yes, and here i want to emphasize all those countries that joined nato, because the united the states were interested in this entry, the same applies to sweden and finland, uh, ivan alekseevich why is the united states interested in joining sweden in finland in nato, if anything? will they need to be protected? yes, and finland, russia have a very long extended border. and why does the united states continue to deliberately ignore russia's red lines, drawn with the utmost clarity, specifically about nato expansion to russia's borders. you very rightly said that there are around, uh, politics

open doors manipulation, because these are some strange open doors, if they are open, then probably anyone can enter. so, maybe we would come in and also raised this issue in 2000. they are so open that no one except those, uh, who curry favor with the united states, could not enter. and now, using the example of ukraine, we see that it is visible for some newcomers. uh, joining this alliance will be simple through blood and one's own. well, the main thing is to shed russian blood to be accepted, and the contract. if i remember correctly, the washington treaty does not provide for any, e . can they invite if they have a corresponding interest? yes, and from

my point of view, now we see just this case. we see that the united states has an interest in sweden and finland joining, therefore, this just proves no open door policy. no real the washington treaty works the way it is written, and everything else is uh pr and such an empty policy and some kind of lure for the uh, glory of the developed countries that really want to quickly become, uh, highly developed and live like in the ears of russia who they have been saying for 30 years that it is not we who are expanding nato, but these countries. yes, although there after bucharest themselves - this is the spring of 2008 . it was already impossible to prove it in any way, because there was an unambiguous retraction. here. everywhere there are ukraine and georgia, that's georgia's glory. god came to her senses and, uh, we

discussed it with you last week. what will happen as a result of the visit of the american delegation to tbilisi, i then suggested that the americans, apparently, will receive a polite, but, but today we see a georgian statement that says no, we should not be involved. well, uh, and we absolutely won’t allow it, and they disrupted the game with akashvili, who 70 should have contributed to this , so, returning to sweden and finland, we see that the united states is interested in their entry, and therefore they will indeed be invited . i think that, but the resistance of some countries is an attempt to play something out there. they will be overcome , some will give small compensation to those strange ones who will raise their voice and try to bargain for something for themselves. why does the united states want them to pull it uh, as you rightly noted , countries that are on the russian border

of countries with good pop economies, which have a good military industry, especially sweden and which have enu, let's say population, eh, which is generally involved in such mobilization plans. for example, in finland, in general, the entire military strategy is built around the ability to carry out a guerrilla war. not such a frontal war. but everywhere in the country there are some plans for organizing partisan detachments with weapons. it means, uh, only one thing, that uh, the united states doesn't want u not want to be directly involved in the conflict, and as we said, they are looking around the world for sparring partners for china and for and for russia and here in the north of u europe somewhere there near the beginning

arctic route. uh, for russia they are also trying to find sparring partners from my point of view in sweden and in finland they do not realize that they are considered as sparring partners, like such watchdogs that will have to bark, and maybe even throw and and biting they e operate in the former logic, and the former logic. this is another of the nato myths that nato is the american security umbrella and in europe everyone is used to the fact that this umbrella is free, respectively. almost all the leftist movements in france have, uh, always had one line. us we need nato in order not to spend money on guns, we will spend money on welfare, and these countries apparently still think so. the fact that against the backdrop of the ukrainian crisis next to russia becomes a little bit. so, uh, they are afraid,

let's go under the american, uh, security umbrella, and they completely ignore the fact that the situation has changed. the american security umbrella is no longer free at all and in general the united states does not open its security umbrellas anymore. they are recruiting a sparring partners who are willing to do some pretty dirty geopolitical work. well, indeed, another nato myth is just the notorious fifth article, which is also mythologized, because it does not imply the automatic entry of the united states into the war. e. e against e, the potential against the aggressor against other nato countries yes, it obliges to take action all measures. yes, uh, they can be different. well, we talked about the fact that croatia has become a problem for the collective west , naturally even more. left for him is serbia, which, on the one hand, is pursuing a course towards

joining the european union, but on the other hand , maintains a friendly policy towards russia, does not want to harmonize its foreign policy with the policy of the collective west and the european union. i. a. aleksandar vucievich is the president of serbia, who recently won a very resounding victory. he keeps this course. he recently stated that serbia continues to follow the european path, but maintains friendly relations, and that the european union and the united states are putting pressure on serbia with russia on this karen donfried, the united states under secretary of state for european and eurasian affairs, is on a balkan tour this week, and yesterday she had talks with vučić. yes, and she, of course, used the tool that the united states has. this is a scythe, where there are large american bases. and kosovo, in principle, is in orbit. it is a satellite of the united states. i want to ask vladimir alekseevich. what

do you think? will serbia be able to maintain this independent position for a long time when she on the one hand, it focuses on integration into the european union, on the other hand, it is friendly towards russia and does the united states really have anything to offer serbia in order for it to change its policy. well , firstly, the united states has recently been using the logic of a stick, not a carrot and offer. they don't want anything for anyone. uh, she treats europe exclusively, as her own kind of yards, in which a is possible and we will allow everything and they will not ask anyone. they will continue pressure and try to maintain this sphere of influence. well, it is desirable to expand a little towards finland. why not try? just a little closer to the red lines of russia, and here it should be noted that this policy of pressure and

movement towards us under various pretexts, the americans continued. uh, after the end of the cold war already after the ninety-first year. and uh, you probably need to remember in the context of what you said about yourself, and a very important point is that not so long ago, a little more than 20 years ago, and in uh central european eastern european country called yugoslavia yes, in this country, american colleagues launched missile strikes in this country, this country in europe what kind of democracy, yes, and what are we talking about, the americans allowed themselves to act like an elephant china shops about the system, and all these years what they have as a result. and who is ready to believe the americans today and believe in some myths, about which you, among other things, spoke before. after all, in essence. uh, everything americans do these years is preservation is an attempt to preserve the myth, and even 2 myths

the first is the myth of democracy and the second myth is the myth of being on the pedestal of this very democracy. uh, if you like, here's the myth of why and why the americans are the hegemon, no matter how they cover it up with military stuff, a military umbrella that they now make others pay for or whatever, but the world is not ready for this. and what is most interesting, most of the world is not ready for this. they are not ready for this. not only the average regional powers or world powers, which undoubtedly is china, but resistance to this is rendered even by small and middle powers, as it were. we will continue talking about european and international politics in a few moments.

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barrel published an article, and he wrote literally next listen if we do not decide to remain in a situation of constant tension or conflict, and this is certainly not the option that the eu prefers we will need to find ways to reorganize the relationship between the european union and russia agree on security guarantees and mechanisms that ensure peaceful coexistence in this barrel statement we we see, but there are still some rudiments of an understanding that it is not necessary, uh, to achieve complete elimination before the industrialization of europe and that you still need to take into account the opinion, including such politicians as macron orban, i'm not talking about it, but the ordinary interests of european citizens, on the one hand. he uh

continues to understand that it is necessary to inflict a crushing defeat on russia. on the other hand , he understands that this is impossible, and it is possible only in the event of a nuclear war. well, then there will be no winners who do not lose, russia's response will be lightning fast, as our president also said, and therefore, uh, in this regard, he thinks about the future world that will arise and understands that europe is destined for the role of such a colony here, if please the united states of america in this regard, he is looking for ways. uh, the changes uh of this process of the future, a and it goes back to what we were talking about on the russian side before the start of this whole crisis, what we were talking about security guarantees and that's why he's coming back to them, but because the keys are here gradually this realization comes, but really too late, because the situation is changing and changing in a serious way, in general, er, the whole and main issue. uh,

the future from the point of view of europe and the overall balance forces in the international system. relationships are just that. in this very in these same security guarantees . most of the countries of the world require guarantees for the security of their sovereign existence. well, no matter how relations between russia and the european union develop in the near future, one must understand that the eu is a decreasing size of international relations. a and a. this is the outgoing direction of russian and foreign and foreign economic policy peaceful coexistence, about which josé barel wrote. this is the maximum that we god can have with the european union, and with the collective west as a whole at a new stage in the development of international relations, is the main direction of our policy. the east and the far east, that is, asia and the middle east, that is, the middle east and africa and latin america, and by the way, today, the

construction of the russian part of the first transboundary railway bridge across the amur river between russia and china, but in its policy in asia and the middle east, russia is very important strike a balance and strengthen partnerships with china and india do not forget about the countries of southeast asia and africa equally proximity to equals to different centers of power. this is the key to success in a multipolar world. it was a big game program. goodbye. we saw the video, now i ask this question with a special meaning, where does the homeland begin

? historic scale today in our program. this is an anti-fake program. here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation today in our studio anton anatolyevich nazarov advisor to the minister of education of the russian federation bogdan bespalko historian member of the council on interethnic relations under the president of the russian federation and alexander artamonov military expert hello children in ukraine, starting from kindergarten, are brought up in hatred to russia, the ministry of education analyzed more than three hundred ukrainian textbooks and it turned out that they distort the image russia and incite russophobia. how exactly the children in ukraine were written a real fake story, let's analyze today those same textbooks on specific

quotes. i suggest that we all now and our viewers watch the following story. it is not surprising that a lot of fighters of nationalist units are young people, because children are still from a young age. here at school they instill that the 2014 war was russian ukrainian, and not the citizens of ukraine, that's where confrontation red terror, we are exposed here as hellish orcs. these idiots want to rebuild the empire. and it's just one book. it made 1.000 copy. the next such book is the history

of civilization of ukraine 10 century bc. imagine how they imagined themselves that there were already ukrainians 10 centuries bc. but it’s interesting, look at what book in the fiery celt the defense of the luhansk airport is a book about cyborgs, here are all the photos in color. here they are handsome ziguyut. try not in vain i started with the primer, because this is what children who enter schools begin their education. and what is in this primer? we just saw.