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december 25, 2016, on the eve of the new year holidays , a terrible thing happened, a plane of the ministry of defense crashed near sochi, a plane crash claimed the lives of 92 people from a humanitarian mission to congratulate our servicemen who are there on the new year and pass on the most necessary things to those who need medicines to the last relatives friends and colleagues of elizabeth glinka, unfortunately, did not materialize. ok, i'm going to cry now. elizaveta glinka, or as she was more commonly called dr. liza, was the head

of a charitable foundation, fair assistance from a palliative care doctor, a philanthropist, a well-known public figure, to members of the board of a hospice assistance fund. vera just a few weeks before the terrible catastrophe, she was awarded the state prize of the russian federation for her services in the field of human rights and charity. i'm impossible not say today about my colleagues doctors killed the day before yesterday in syria medics of donetsk and hundreds of children killed during the shelling of donbass and from thousands of children buried in syria little fragile brave kind, she was always where her help was most needed and where no one could give security guarantees. she refused ceremonial receptions. for the sake of being

somewhere under the bullets among the hungry and the wounded, she put their interests above her own. their life is higher than their own and always came to those who were waiting for it. those for whom she was the last hope. and even now, after her death, these two words of dr. lisa continue to warm hearts. after the tragedy, relatives and colleagues decided that the best memory of elizabeth glinka would be the continuation of her work, the charitable foundation, fair help. her colleague was headed by journalist ksenia sokolova today alone with everyone, dr. lisa's husband lawyer gleb glinka and her friend the head of the fund fair help ksenia sokolova good afternoon ksenia thank you very much for coming to our today

the program to talk about dr. lisa i fund, which she left for all of us. i would say so, you know, i was once amazed in my childhood when i saw how a military funeral takes place. and shocked me. well, such a detail that after this sad event occurs, the orchestra always plays the military march, and i hmm, a very small child does not understand there. asked my dad. why it happens? he told me because this is the affirmation that life goes on. it's sad, but life goes on. it seems to me, that the presence of the fund, fair assistance and the continuation of his life in a sense, this is such a military march, such a metaphor for the continuation. mm, dr. liza ksyusha, you took, so to speak, the place of elizaveta petrovna, as i understand it, uh, at some point it was said that this is a temporary situation. do you still feel about what it is to

say so? you temporarily assumed these responsibilities or deliberately continue to do so for a long time. you know, these cases are characterized by the phrase there is nothing more permanent than time. it literally. so it just became clear that, really, i came in order to help the fund survive and live for some transitional period, but it turned out that we just need a person who will be responsible for everything. and somehow they all gave me to understand that there are simply no other options, that if i undertake it, then well , for some rather long time, i am responsible, librarian. i know that you hmm were among those people who insisted that ksyusha continue her work eliza why it was so important to you that she be the one to take over the job for several reasons, er, but first and foremost. i want to note that what e ksyusha

decided to stay. this is, of course, in the order of things, because elizabeth was used to recruiting people like that, uh, and she fell for this hook, but if it’s more serious, but the translation is that they were very close, and hmm, the second moment here is that ksenia, uh, interceded with her in a very difficult moment in her life, when they began to appear on the internet, well, unthinkable nasty things about her, that is. well, in my opinion. it's just some kind of devilry, and it was ksenia who interceded for her, by force of word and her pen. e. uh, to some extent even helped her out, uh, in this, uh, very alien moment, if it was very strong, but for her it was just that she was crying. i heard that because of petrovna, in a certain sense, she even entrusted you

with this fund, that you had some kind of conversation that if you had to do something, you would have to do it. it ’s not like that, there was no such conversation, and somehow i never imagined that, well, let’s say, so she will die before me. that is, for some reason i had the feeling that here she is and will be and should be here the second person who plays a rather important role in his fund. and it's hmm and like before. they were talking, what she was doing continued to do the program and uh, talked about it not long before her death touch you know um. here are, um, so to speak, some of the stories of elizaveta petrovna, the history of your acquaintance and how, in fact, as a result, she became what people became, who have heard it's a combination of dr. lisa many learned what she does. many thought that she was not married, because to imagine, to

a woman who is always available on the phone, who is there around the clock helping the homeless, and, so to speak, the most unfortunate people on whom society has already given up. well, of course, she did not have a personal life. it is clear that it is invested, so to speak, all as much as possible. personal life is clear that it is invested, so to speak, all as much as possible in my work, how did i manage to combine such an active activity such an incredible help, or something, to various people and at the same time be the wife of the mother of the vacation, uh every year, uh on weekends by the way, she is the only case when she did not spend the weekend at home together or anywhere else. this was the last case when she went to all the series, almost no one knew that she was flying. yes, i remember that it was a long time to find out. mm. could she be yes, yes, on this plane or all the same.

well, can we say that her activities, so to tell? ah, beautiful, the motive is beautiful, wife, i do not know how to say. she really is. it is even difficult for you sometimes, because these are two different layers. that is, it is public. ah, or advice that, well, i don't know. i thought so on, then they then it's purely personal, then 30 years. i really was such a mistress of the house and a caring wife, she loved to dig. well, russian, dad, she loved to dig for herself and grow things, she loved to cook and spend time with children. you met in the mid- eighties and met at an exhibition. as spoke either for this petrovna yes, and it was interesting. yes, somewhere he said yes. so, but

as far as i understand, you pretty quickly decided , so to speak, to be together. that's what you have here very intimate. yes, in this uh, well, for a week we knew, we already knew that we had come together all our lives. such is the power of your couple's intuition. you understand that you didn’t grow up in russia although russian a and z are your hairpins, you had such an idea, let’s say that you need to marry a russian woman and find this ideal option in the form of elizabeth petrovna i will flog. i would be a bachelor by nature. i was sure that i would never be alone. it was very difficult to meet. i am a bookish man, i am a man of my desk. you are a result, because your work was connected with america. as far as i understand, you have moved, it is not allowed there. it was petrovna who gave birth to her first son there, which made you tell her to go. here, sorry, no big deal. well, as

i understand it, it was your initiative to tell her that there is a hospice there not far from yours. at home, and what to eat, you should go and turn your attention there, at least you could put your wife at home. well, for the first time. we want to naturally stay. that is, i wanted to eat to stay and yes, yes. looked and said. what, are you out of your mind? you won't survive here, but it was you know that right? uh, and i because we hmm went to the states uh, and there i had such anxiety, because she is really very very talented doctor, it is an integral part of her hmm essence, and hmm to help in this way and fortunately. uh, close from us we lived in very remote places, not far from us. i thought you might like it, and of course you should immediately get hooked on it, and you liked it so much.

well, because at that time. for example, she participated in the foundation, and hmm, of the first moscow choles. yes, and she was very close, as they said to vasilyeva, millionaires are also quite a hygienic personality. uh, it was the perfect combination, because she was just really happy about it. the opportunity to accompany someone at the end can somehow alleviate some joy. i it was very important. she successfully combined work and personal life with a wonderful mother and a wonderful wife, the only time she didn’t spend the weekend at home together or somewhere together was the last time she went to syria and many were jealous of appearing, well, unthinkable nasty things about her, then eat. well, in my opinion. it 's just some kind of devilry - the main thing for dr.

lisa was to ease the agony, she was just very happy about the opportunity to accompany someone in the end, you can somehow alleviate and brought some joy. no, it was very important the right to life, dr. lisa. i understand that you ended up in moscow as a result because you fell ill. mom always wanted to return and i laughed for a month. well, how are the russian emigration? it was my environment and she made me laugh. glinka has been sitting on suitcases for 10 years. mm. well, it’s just that you had the opportunity, uh, to work and support your family , it’s all the same, and even moving to moscow was following you, following your family. well, she's not really mom. she was just getting on a plane to to return, she came here to visit her mother and a

mother had. uh, very serious and had a stroke, and she went into a coma. uh-huh and hedgehog, you s-looked after her. it is also very typical for elizabeth. mom was in a completely full room in budenko, that is, and for this she is convinced that she responds with a finger, but the doctors say that it is impossible, and she does every morning. she just bought some very expensive meat in the evening, which her mother loved every morning. she, uh, through some kind of terrible apparatus, very noisy , worked through this meat. well, to be able cherubik to feed her and then brought. it's uh, hmm bulldenko and fed her twice a day. every day everyone came and said. and it will bother her. she doesn’t care, for some time i was tired and every day it’s something, but smooth to eat, but she is a doctor, she perfectly understands that he has no sense of taste. and yet. it's every day, in general

it's amazing that, but it's impossible for petrovna to be some kind of pure kindness. i cannot but agree with me, and i am amazed at what petrovna eats with her life and hers, i don’t know everything, what did she do. e, she demonstrated that this is a brother, we all come up with some kind of methodology there, how to exist. how to break through walls, how to organize a business, and so on and so forth, but it turns out that her hmm simple actions eventually led to the fact that people accumulated around her, those projects that she dreamed about and thought were impossible, but let's say, here is the house of mercy, which arose as a result. i don't know when, back in 2010. she said, but this, probably, never will, but i still want it to be. can we find out that it happened? yes, that is, and although it cannot be said that she was some kind of genius, so to speak, there, well, managers. yes, she moved, everything is exceptional.

i don’t know to my sheep’s authority what you will say to ksyusha about this, how do you say why these circumstances developed around her, although she was not a manager. no, of course, she was not no effective manager, but she was so hmm, so to speak, unusual in this particular with her kindness, that she, uh, made a stunning impression on people, and absolutely anyone. that is, those who got to know her closely and who generally had some kind of human resource of their own, so that people just followed her, because, well, in general, it’s hard to imagine that people like her are. and when you understand this is in front of you, and in front of you is a person. that's really absolutely piercing kindness that you see, it's with your own eyes that you understand what really this person is. and your joy uh, the joy of other people. eh, pleases

more than his own his own. and it's so atypical. it's as much as to say. well , not in such ordinary human nature. what 's amazing about that? is it possible to say that this kind of her kindness and such unusualness allowed her to, in a sense, step over obstacles? well, that is, uh call easily someone who has power and say, listen, let's help. you know that in the first place, and i must say that it was not easy, because i saw, for example, how she fought for the same house mercy and uh, do n't think she came. lisa illuminated everyone there, which means with her extraordinary kindness, and they gave everything away, and some building in the center of moscow was absolutely not like that. it's been years. here, and there is just a struggle of persuasion. there, i don't know what, well , that's what you said, she really, she was absolutely convinced that if you

are engaged, if you are an official. and you're sitting here to help people, and so i'll call you, even at night, even during the day, and even though i'll say, what to do with another voice you will do and indeed. this is her conviction. she ended up breaking through everything. that is, uh, she left at the peak, that is, uh, further her possibilities would have clearly expanded significantly. that is, she has laid this tunnel, and indeed she makes authority with her charisma her authority. it concluded not because she knew how to knock with her fist, but because people simply understood that in front of them an exceptional person was exceptionally enough, honestly observed these reactions to her. that is first it is total disbelief. that is, everyone is looking for some kind of benefit. what can be, what can not be, yes, where where where that she is being pursued, where is the button. here further it turns out that she does not pursue anything benefit a and further hmm perplexed surprise, a further. yes, she

comes towards the person. therefore, we will now listen to irina svirkina, commandants of the house of mercy. i then continue our conversation got acquainted. first, with make-up with her husband, then she met petrovna with us, she is very sociable, kind, sympathetic, always with at first glance, she was like that and always was like that, but that’s how they understood each other and gleb was like that, and petrovna always supported her with understanding and support , that is. here, i think that she always. here you saw his face as a person who will always help and support. even when she was already in a hot spot, she went, yes, and to ukraine, it would seem, what kind of husband would allow his wife to go

under the bombing of the vile. but he always speaks, because without it she cannot do without it. this is her and that's it. come on, i don't know when i agreed to go to work here. i said that i probably, i don't like people that much and i guess not. i have so much spiritual kindness and warmth so that we treat people the way she treated. she told me that we don't need the people who live here and with whom we communicate, we don't need to love them, they need help. it turns out, one without the other is impossible. if you help them, you start to love and not be a friend, wait. that

's why i don't want to be interviewed. i cant crawl through the throne to speak. well, this really amazing phenomenon, yes, that she said, you don’t need to love, you need to help, and then everything developed by itself. well, here is your first meeting of ksyusha with elizaveta petrovna; by the way, she was such a frequent case between people who become loving spouses or closest friends. first we need each other. some nasty glamorous thing just can't be tolerated. and you thought about realizing petrovna that she is such a little hysterical, so charity was. that is, you were also looking for a catch. you understand, i went into the

basement with my friend. here and there in the semi-darkness. here is some kind of table and people are sitting around it and everyone is watching, it means a little woman who is telling them something, but it looks like this is absolutely a meeting, eh. so some sect. yes, i understand everything, but a sect, because you had some kind of work. you came there as a journalist. i came with my friend, who was friends with her, and it’s clear to convey to her or i won’t ask for something. i went with him. and then how it turned out that they found a place with me there next to her. here she is, looking at me. suddenly she takes, uh, a pack of cigarettes terribly smoky, because everyone smokes, and i don’t smoke, and she gives me like this and like that. i understand that i now smoke, wow. here's what some kind of. now there is some kind of exchange without

words, but with some important gestures, and i take a cigarette and light it up. that's what i'm talking about with them. so, at first, they successfully passed such a test. yes, well, it seems, it means that elizaveta petrovna passed the test in general despite the fact that e there again, well, we like to think in stereotypes about what a person is. if she is like that, then she means, well, there here is a bad wife or a bad mother there or not married at all. also, uh, there are stereotypes there, that for sure a woman who so means gives herself. e work. well, she probably doesn’t have time to think about herself there, it’s not true, she, uh, loved to dress and comb and take care of herself, so to speak, but i think that you were still such a representative for her, well , quite some glamor-glamour, because you were engaged. a certain kind of journalism, i think that in a certain way, they kept serving themselves, so to speak . it seems to me that this was not close to her, how could she, well, consider you in you for

all the uh, tinsel of our outer armor, which we each dress up hmm who in what yes, i had armor . be healthy and in fact, no one could almost see anything there. what is behind them, but she did? it's instant. she had some kind of optics such that it was generally possible to deceive her impossible. here, that is. well, yes, she just instantly somehow cut through me. and i also saw a completely unusual person. here's, uh, which i just really liked. so i realized that i just want to be friends with her. she never gave up even in a seemingly hopeless situation most of all nonsense. oh joy, she was born like that. here is her character. god so shorts. she stopped at nothing on her way to her goal. she was absolutely convinced

that if you take up the cross, if you are an official, then you are sitting here to help people, she was good at understanding people. these were healthy, and in fact, almost no one could see anything there. what is behind them, but she did? it 's instant. she had some kind of optics such that it was impossible to deceive her. the right to life, dr. liza ksyusha, i want to ask. and what can we finally say to you? well, it brought me closer and made such friends like this, there was some kind of, say, i don’t know, a click turn, when it became clear that this was the person of my life. well, we are in some moment with her just got close enough. i mean , that's when we became friends. and, well, we just saw each other sometimes. i came there to them something brought something did. here and then uh. well, for me, she was probably, uh, the most interesting. one of the most interesting, let's say,

if not the most interesting woman who brought me to meet here, simply by her qualities, because really, but absolutely and lightness. in communication with absolutely everyone, that is, she, maybe there really is some kind of homeless person who smells awful, there, i don't know, covered in wounds. there parduny almost in worms, she is calm with uh, smiling. well, according to the situation face. she will bandage him, calm him down, and there she will do everything herself, and send it with her own hands. when this homeless man tells him something, he begins to smile himself. there is one of her wards from the station. she said that she was talking about elizaveta petrovna. when she arrived, uh, at the station, i had a feeling that i had finally come to a normal doctor somewhere in the clinic. and for them it was very valuable, because absolutely no one talks to them as people. and she had no

difference, and i really liked it and you just communicate with her. and when you go to someone, you are discussing doing something important to someone, something is up to something and asks for something. it's always uh nice it's always comfortable a little hooligan with humor and so on. that is, i just enjoyed spending time with her and it was nice to be friends with her. it's very nice to help when i could. that was it, that case and that person who really felt nice to help. that is, it was never a sense of duty or there, if not, then too, that is, those who do, it was nice. yes, this is the russian folk we are pulling the strap. we mean we help. we refuse everything ourselves, she refused nothing. really. she would have had a great relationship there.