lives in the city of omsk you will need igor hear.

hello hello igor is very glad to welcome you to our studio. please tell me igor why are you so interested in a person who is only 27 years old. uh, old people say that many hobbies are laid in childhood. well, i had two hobbies as a child. i really enjoyed collecting dinosaurs. this is the first one, and the second one. i loved butterflies. and now, perhaps with age, catching grandmothers butterflies, princesses catching grandmothers, and my grandmother is like that form of antiquity with dimensional life. but if we talk, if we talk seriously, then uh, my interest. he was some kind of unconscious block from the beginning, he was called differently, and i did not set any age restrictions for my heroes. here. ah, well, these were heroes, mostly people of my age, and how they dress for a generation, who thought to me about, it's clear that's why i'm pretty fast. with these there is some moment,

i just laid out the entire photo archive in front of me and began to clean it out, to clean up what i didn’t interesting and in the dry residue. what is called remained photographs of grandmothers. here igor tell me please, what is the purpose of the project? is it formulated? in general, the goal is quite simple, i fix it. this is some photo chronicle of what older people look like in russia, uh. may i ask a question? tell me wildly interested because i have seen your photos and they are beautiful. uh, and since i also take pictures of photographers, as if for my books no, it's just very interesting what you do, say thanks you. and you, and you dress up, you make lighthouses, you dress up your heroes, or this one only they dress up in reality in life, this is exactly reality. yes, i have only one heroine with

whom we are very close, i can also tell you later . and this is how people dress in reality, that is, i actually catch everything on the street practically by the hand. this is such online communication, it turns out that your geography is wonderful, since you live in the city of omsk, it is limited. here omsk and the suburbs, or you say so? ride all over russia and find in your characters. travel experience. now the project covers here make no mistake. six cities, omsk moscow st. petersburg first uh, izhevsk and ulyanovsk large geography. and how do people react when you come up to them and say, oh, you stand so fine. i'm a photographer. i want to take a picture of you. they are not afraid. they say why what is and what is it to me is not so, by the way, the story. she revealed my personal prejudice, probably towards these people from the very beginning. i thought that this idea might even fail. that is, it seemed to me that pensioners.

they are so uncommunicative that they are scared on the internet, but everything seemed to be the other way around, and probably 98 percent of people agree and this is the part. here are some stereotypes about these people, of course, there are some incidents. but there are fewer of them than such stories when a person responds. towards. and what can you say about a person by his appearance, here are some details that tell you something . if you have some kind of your own research, like vladimir the sample is already established. what about what can be said? well, in general, clothing is, after all, some cocoon is an aura that we put outside there and we can say that a lot begins the state, starting from how much a person earns , ending in general, his state is inside, that is, externally. in any case, this is an internal projection, but it happens that a person earns a little. and grandfather is incredibly stylish. such a lady, and, unfortunately,

she receives a very small pension of six thousand. here, but if you see her on the street, you never think that she is by and large poor, because ah, she is more like a st. petersburg aristocrat. that is, she is always ready, always, but not the hat of the coat. everything is well-groomed, here, and she says that the style just does not depend on the amount of money and taste. you don't know either, but for my part, insofar as i already said that we will make a book about appearance at the age of happiness and sent them how to look good after fifty. i'm just here to invite you not to participate. we will be very, very happy. if you are more primitive participation and will be very happy with your photos. yes. i am happy that such a cooperation happened on our program. thank you for sure. write to me. let's publish it. yes, good app. let's do it so let's organize a

barter. if you meet a lady with good taste. you send half a bush to the project, if a person from a good story, i'm talking about him returning happiness to you, let's be a little difficult to share. let's get the details. you discuss already when write off. and now i would like to ask the last question in many. and how do you imagine your own old age or you don’t think about it yet. you are doing this, as an art project that interests you very precisely , to say that most likely, no, it’s definitely an art project, but still it’s cleansing, but in its old age. to be honest, i still can’t imagine in detail and exactly like this, but i feel i can imagine the state of society in which i wanted this age. it must be a society limited by some stereo. there she and in which i say the word in july says that the choice was canceled the word old age, and i would not cancel it. i would like to just change attitudes towards him to

say e phrase. i was old, i was not ashamed . e somehow did not call. wow. first of all, so that it does not in any way call pity. we certainly, uh, i would like to tell such a story to stir up old age so that i fit well into the project. come back thank you thank you. thank you very nice guy amazing. what really stylish people on our streets, although it's true that it doesn't matter. it seems to me from money from uh money. it does n't depend at all. well, the attitude towards yourself that you have is generally difficult to influence with some kind of social. uh, you know, uh, money is one of the biggest stereotypes that exists about this, that a happy old age or a happy age after 50-60 years is possible only if you have a lot of money or, in principle, a lot of money, it's not true, because it's interesting to talk about how much this

intersects. you know, with some, but eastern philosophy, in part, which once pierced me. here, i read that in japan once upon a time there was such a principle, when at the age of 40 a man, if he raised children, had the right to leave a note at home that i had left, he changed his name and life. here are the life changes of 40 years then the japanese are 50, 60. yes. and i don't know how about leaving, but life change. this is incredibly important . it's like new blood, it's so much breathing, i don't know, this is primarily about of the brain, because just recently ended, a huge, very deep, very serious study of the human brain, which clarified a number of age-related characteristics associated with the human brain, the brain develops for quite a long time develops, forms up to 20-something years and hmm, i finally figured out the point when you can reach the peak

development at the age of 70. peak, peak development of the human brain. reaches 70 years. and here is another very curious such ability to learn. even the ability to learn increases increases decision ability. uh, contrary to what we think, complex problems are many factorial problems. the only thing. in what loses the brain after fifty, it loses the speed of speed. but you also argued interestingly, and you made some conclusions that the most healthy conductors and dancers there are healthy or somehow the most long-livers. the number of centenarians of dancers and a lot of conductors to conductors live very long. why conductors, and this is a relaxed movement to the music? conducting the dance in essence, well, okay, it's we don't care uh hmm it's still moving to the rhythm of a certain bridge. well, then new work is what makes your brain work dance is

what makes your body work properly. this is where the key word comes out, yes, the key principle is pleasure is the key, the principle for old age. yes, it's a pleasure, as long as you er, that is, each period of life has its own task, and we are arranged in such a way that the solution of this task supports our existence, because it supports our learning in life there in youth. well, we learn when to continue to live there in 30 years. we realize ourselves such a task exists for people over the age of 50. it's the ability to enjoy life on a daily basis. yeah, so enjoying life and having fun is a key decision for everyone. we've got another, and a terrific, heroine who also gets. satisfaction with one's activity that doesn't stop age from continuing to enjoy it. let's see.

my name is yakovlevna, not 83 years old, will soon be 84 on november 26, but in general, i somehow think that i not quite the old little one was still there, but i really dreamed all the time that there was some kind of machine that was supposed to drive. well, when they bought me a bike, i felt that it was somehow a cycle of a motorcycle, in general, a red line, that a car runs through my whole life, you need to love it, like a woman find it in life. i consider myself a happy person. too bad, i'd still ride. i am very pleased. these are examples from our stories, because we are talking about our, uh, elderly people, because your book is someone else

it is replete, of course, with western examples, and there is a temptation to say to yourself what? well , of course, there are other living conditions there. there is a different attitude of society, it is comfortable there, and there you can afford to stage with pleasure. and well , and so on and so forth, to say that there are few such people in russia, and i was amazed when i found out that there are actually a huge number of them there is such a beautiful woman lyudmila crow in novosibirsk she is well over 60. she. uh, you know what she's doing, she's in the triathlon. do you know what is reinforcement? this is the hardest triathlon in the world, which means that at first we have to swim almost four kilometers. then on the bike without stopping 180 km, and then running 42 km - this takes at least 9 hours in a row. yes. here is lyudmila voronova, how old she is with us, she is 62 years old

now, here she is participating in the triathlon, she wins well, and so on, a question for you. here, and those stereotypes that live not only in our society. i would say it is becoming a global problem. of the whole globe regarding what youth is good old age - it's bad, there and so on. it's so very clear. it's profitable, right? we do not imagine the scale of earning in old age. to what extent old age is a business business is a giant business, physiology, uh, more than half of all pharmacology revenues. more than ten drugs for an elderly person who we prescribe and which he takes on victory day on the first there is no family in russia where there was a memory of his hero and

the eyes of young soldiers who died and from those who returned from the war. to the generation of winners the immortal regiment live on may 9 on first, generally speaking, now there are two periods and it is very important to separate them, because there is a period from 55 to 75. this has nothing to do with

old age in modern society. this is the absolute top of human life, when there is a lot of energy, there is health, you just need to deal with yourself and absolutely everything is possible from the point of view of physics and the brain and anything, and you can give a million examples, he is there to boris lats, well, a muscovite resident passes a 10-kilometer ski distance, a 10-kilometer yes, 10 minutes slower than a 26-year-old world champion. well, 75 years, perhaps in short, to be able to dream. here is another very important point. i don't think it has been touched. you said in some interview that old age. uh, the main fear of old age is the fear of independence. you know, it seems to me that the main fear that exists in relation to old age. and most importantly, what needs to be overcome. this is what after 50 after 60 years. no matter how high-quality social

you were not in the structure, no matter how much the state supported you. and you find yourself in a situation where you are truly responsible for yourself. you are responsible for your own health, right? because if you're dancing there. an hour a day everything to go nuts if you don't work out, you get sick, you yourself are responsible for your profession, because you either say no. i want to continue. i'll look for ways, or you say no, it's impossible to do it. it is forbidden. you're much more in charge of your life than at 30 or 8:00 who will watch our programs will talk all the time, i don’t know, older people will talk there. yes, you don't know about life. here, try to get settled, the problem arises when after fifty you try to work the same way you worked, until the next one follows. it does not work by the same method, the same principles and the same goals. so you need to change 50 years. eh, you are very busy. and how you do it , then it will work. and you have overcome your fear. that's what you started for

6 years ago this project. yes, you are fearless, look into the future my life in the region of fifty has changed incredibly, including from a financial point of view. e. hmm i didn't have fifty now, a lot of money. now there is practically no money, and i am completely different. working. i have a completely different attitude towards life. i can safely say that i am much happier now than i was anytime you were in your life. thank you very much, and for a lot of useful information. keep up your research, please, lots of fans, but i'm one of them. thank you very much. thank you. i never had the desire to have my own child. i just do not want. i want to do other things. i want to devote myself to science, this is just my

choice, and i have to think with my own head, and not follow some rules. what is so necessary or so instituted? how are you striving to continue the mouth. it seems to us absolutely natural, nevertheless, there are more and more people in the world who do not want to become parents; they are otherwise called child, fries or free from children. i don't look at age. i look at my student as a person, not my clients. i work with them. i am doing my job, how to teach? you were already thinking about your future. we don't know what will happen in 10-20 years. if this happens in 20 years. i'll change my mind eventually. i don't think i will necessarily regret it. or maybe i will regret it, because there are also grandfathers who say that they gave birth to a child, but you can’t bring him back . his career is planned for several

years ahead, there is no way to take care of his own child. fits into these plans at the age of 34. he deliberately went for an operation, after which he could never become a father. of course, what is in these frames a complete happy idyll, mother her newborn son just a year ago, she could not even imagine that she would become a mother of a quiet measured life. she would never trade for a crying baby, but despite the unexpected gift of fate. she assures. this is her first and last child. i don't have time for this. i have no desire to work. i want to be free, not tied to anything. to me need freedom of movement without any restrictions. in childhood. she preferred playing cossack robbers to dolls. daughters-mothers. she

wasn't attracted at all. to be honest, i don't understand it. apparently i'm a different person. i, uh, don't understand this bullshit. these ingratiations, uh, in front of the children. hmm , some concessions to them here, these conversations about the fact that, well, these are the children, all the girlfriends dreamed of children, and she about how to avoid this. today, she stands her ground in her life there is no, and there can be no place for a child - this is a certain zone responsibility, which i do not want, probably to take on, because i want to live for myself pleasure. they are all consciously of the abyss that drives them. today they are alone with all such people free from children every year more and more they are most often condemned. however, they are part of our society and i really want to know what is the reason that prompted them to this point of view. hello michael hello. thank you very much, first of all, for the fact that you decided to come to our studio, because we are a in search

heroes are faced with the problem that so many do not dare to speak publicly on this topic. and for some hero. or the usual tryna talk about it. thank you for inviting me. first of all, you know, i don't consider that heroism for me. this is a completely natural position. i see no reason to hide it. and even more ashamed of her. it seems to me that every person is fired to make his choice in his life, but to have children for him to have children for him. i can ask you an indiscreet question for a woman. how old are you? i'm 32. here you are, uh, so definitely say you don't want to have children. this applies to today. do you admit that someday a your point of view will change or you have the feeling that this is a once and for all resolved issue, you know, i'll tell you honestly, mm at the moment. it seems to me that, in general, i will adhere to this point of view until the end of my life, but i do not exclude the moment. that at some point in my life, something suddenly clicks in my head and i

decide that it’s precisely the children that i don’t have enough for happiness. and you always boldly declare this position in the community of friends. uh, or in the company of people you don't know. you know, i'm not even a kiddrive, i find it to provoke a little interlocutors and say, you know, here, but i don't want to have children, and you generally tend to find against some social stereotypes. against what society has established, as a rule. it's just my position. i sincerely believe in it, i do not consider it necessary to keep silent about it. and what do you say when you are told that the purpose of every woman is to have children, i usually say hmm, what do you know, besides being a woman, i am a person, i am a person. i have a certain circle of interests striving for the desires of dreams, and to reduce everything to such a narrow goal, uh, leave generations behind me, but i see the meaning of my life in a slightly different way, well, why such a narrow goal, right? they give birth to children, it's not that they leave their careers or their own, maybe there are

scientific research and so on and so forth and so on, children are children. a career is a career, a relationship is a relationship. uh, why are you asking such a sharp question edge? just many same women, again, that's my age. yes, here are many of my classmates, let's say. hmm, as a rule. you know such a trend has revealed itself, rather than giving birth either, to fill the void in your life. that is, they are lonely, but either to keep a man. a. well, of course, most often the stamp works. well, everyone needs to start here. i have the same age. i'm married pots all on the stove. it's time to have kids. no, it's not clear, sincere position. and that is, you did not come across, for any other motivation, then i want to give birth to a child, because i just want, because i want to love this child, because i like it. children of this, you are not immediately gone, that's the point. yes, i’m not saying that everyone is like that again, yes. at 90%, this is the motivation that i listed is present in conversations. and

even if she is not present in the conversations, i understand it, er, in some detail. eh, even more about that, probably, than they are silent, that is, then when the period comes, what i hear here is me there in the kindergarten with him there, i would sleep there, and i would go to the disco. well never mind. yes the point is that i'm starting to hear the child becomes a burden child - it's expensive. he doesn't get on the nerves. he blows my mind and so on. we fuse it to moms com grandmothers, because i want my personal life. i want to go on vacation, without a child and so on. i have a question. why did you give birth to him, if he eventually becomes, well, some kind of uncomfortable piece of furniture in the house. the term childfree appeared in the 70s in the united states, and after a couple of decades, such communities gained popularity in russia, the proportion of people who deliberately refused offspring today is 6%, but people who consciously abandoned children continue to grow rapidly, they

did it at all times for various reasons and only in the middle of that century, and such a trend arose earlier , voluntary childlessness was chosen, mainly by creative and public people differently, arguing their point of view. youth is a wonderful thing. what a crime to waste it on children, and are you human enough to have the right to want a child my favorite thing to do is sit at home with a script and learn the role. i'm an actor. i have no hobbies no children and i don't like to travel women with children a lot maya plisetskaya yes life without children is much easier. but that doesn't mean the decision not to have children is an easy one. however. i never dreamed of becoming a mother, my gay friend, being in the seventh grade already knew what she would name the children, carefully writing out her own and their names at that time. in my dreams, i saw myself as martin luther king. today,

ordinary couples with higher education and stable jobs want to be free from children, and some go to avoid offspring. even to extreme measures. i didn't think for a long time. it was determined. eh, it somehow immediately came to my mind and was immediately pressed six months ago, vladimir went for an operation, after which he will never be able to have his own children. but many do not want to have children for various reasons, for example, there is fear. just before motherhood. there is fear. before childbirth. there is a reluctance to share personal space with someone. and that's what's in your case, that's the most poignant when you think about it. they tell you, you have to to have children. do you think, why should i? and i just, probably, value my freedom very much, and your freedom is that it is freedom in every sense, it is freedom of movement. this is freedom. what do you want , that's all freedom because a child is a duty. i answer. i gave life. i am responsible for this person. i have to raise him, educate him

, make him a decent unit of society, you understand the responsibility. i don't want this me. yes, this is probably a somewhat selfish position, but i want to live in pleasure for myself on the forums. i am for example, i found quotes of such a plan in public transport, i try to sit down and stand away from women with children. if a mother tries to jump ahead of me in line. i do with the child. it’s just that i’m doing an impudent face more impudently, pushing the mother aside with the words and what and or is it necessary to tell impudent mothers what they deserve , to become a mother you just need to give birth and that her child is not a baby doll. and just like everyone else. how can you comment on such statements such, so to speak, so harshly expressed position. i want to tell you that if we touched on this topic, but there is childfree, yes, but there is the so-called childhater. these are two completely different things, because childdaters, yes, these are just those who. that’s exactly the

irreconcilable , just the attitude towards children, those who and so on. here, and people 3 are just people, they don’t call for anything, they don’t promote anything. these are just people who have their own position, and they they want society to at least accept them and not condemn them for it, don’t touch me, roughly speaking, don’t touch me, that’s all. i don't want annoyance towards children when they are not badly brought up unconditionally annoyance towards mothers when their children are not badly brought up unconditionally. you make comments in any case. this is a private life, i have no right to go there. but if it concerns me and gives me inconvenience or discomfort. i will definitely tell you about it. and what is an ill-bred child who cannot behave in a society that causes discomfort to people around, what is discomfort, he screams, is naughty, cries, breaks something, runs, pulls, and so on. and here's a great answer. well, he's a child. you know, i've seen a lot of children in my life and thanks to my profession. i know that you can sleep well here, but what were you like as a child? oh

, i was crazy, i mean, you were a badly brought up child. no, i wasn't ill- bred, but i was crazy. in what way? i have a very tough mom, actually in terms of upbringing, and i clearly knew what to shout to attract attention to myself, to crowd with my feet and to speak capriciously. i want this toy. it was simply unacceptable. i have known since childhood. so, well, so bad. fu, you can't do that. uh-huh was crazy in the sense that i was very free right from my childhood. when i was little, we were vacationing in yalta in the santa reactor. i just went up to akhmadulina and said, hello, and so i just got to know him easily. i say, how can you not? she's the same as me i meet, maybe, well, i didn’t understand these clichés in the society of adult aunts and uncles. i had freedom itself. you also mentioned at the very beginning that it seems to you that you will not be able to raise, so to speak, a worthy child in our society. and no matter what child was worthy of you. this is not the question. i said that i won't be able

to raise a decent child because i do n't have that much time, money , opportunities, and so on, to uh raise a person that well, i would be proud and could to say, i did everything to ensure that this person was not ashamed of him. uh-huh that he is educated, and he was much more capable compared to you. well, i think that yes, she was, because she was married, firstly for a minute. that is, you deny yourself not only the birth of a child, but also in the future to get married. well, i just don't aim for it. do you warn young people when you start dating them, if you are dating them, that you absolutely do not want children? yes, when about it talk, that is, it certainly does not happen. so hello. i’m michael, i don’t want to have children, definitely not, but when we start a serious relationship, yes, and anyway, sooner or later, somehow, this topic definitely pops up. i think it's stupid. well , just not sorry, it's not excusable not to tell a person about such a serious decision in his life. and that you have never encountered the fact that

a man - it repels no, next to me. there have always been those men, the universe sent me exactly those men who just either accepted this position, and either agreed with it, or were also generally convinced.