it is also possible that an american tactical nuclear weapon from somewhere in italy from germany will be pulled up there only by relying on our nuclear capabilities in the field of tactical nuclear weapons. we will certainly talk more about the consequences of sweden's accession to nato in finland, but for now i want to understand the motives. and for me, for example, it is quite clear that the matter is not only and not so much in striving. the elite of these countries to join nato, although you are completely right that sweden, for example, in principle, was one of the the most russofian countries, and it was sweden, which was largely behind the initiative of the eastern partnership of the european union, in every possible way supported the entry of ukraine, e, into association with the european union, and so on. but it seems to me that the role played by the united states is much more important. well, they play this role everywhere, but on the other hand. i want to say. you see, here's the story. it revolves in a circle, sweden was once the empire of charles's ambitions. this defeat of the swedes at

poltava. brilliant victories of russian weapons and peter great and yet in the elites of both polish and swedish, possibly finnish, this is the paradigm to return to expansion again, unfortunately, today it certainly dominates. so i want to focus on the united states. attention, well, we are well aware that nato's rhetoric that the open door policy of nato expansion is connected only with the desire of certain countries to join nato is hypocrisy, in fact, the ernators are expanding, because the united states and everyone are interested in this expansion decisions are made the united states in that, and this also applies to e issues. uh, uh finland sweden in this regard. i have two questions for you, andrey andreevich. what is the first thing the united states is trying to achieve in this case . what is their interest in supporting nato expansion into sweden, finland, and second? how does the

united states so brilliantly motivate the elites of countries like finland which, unlike sweden, still remained a russia-friendly country for many decades. american society is now giving carte blanche to the implementation of foreign policy for the white house, while the americans have not yet felt the concrete material consequences of american foreign policy mistakes in europe and therefore trust biden to his age, his experience in the commission on foreign relations and in essence. this is such an elitist course of the american establishment to completely level any distance between the european union and the north atlantic treaty organization in their understanding. it must become one and the same one phenomenon, if before, halftones were possible, separate shades, individual positions of the eu countries of the neutral eu countries that e. understand these are different entities, we are sometimes

distant, we take a separate position from washington. this is the fronde threatening the interesting united states, it is important for them to consolidate europe. the european union and on the transatlantic anti-russian basis, an important material advantage that the united states receives from joining finland and sweden in the union is their share of the defense budget, which goes to the purchase of weapons. it's a few billion dollars annually for the american military-industrial complex of the american economy. this is generally quite useful, although not very large acquisition. uh, european investments, capitals that are looking for a safe haven, inevitably, in the course of growing military tensions, flow into the united states, including finnish swedish ones, and it is important which country guarantees this security cage, and now the united states is proposing, in fact, to go under their nuclear umbrella to these two strange . this is also important from the point of view of creating for

russia on the northern flank may be the source of military threats, including in relation to the northern sea route; to lengthen the front of our contact with the north atlantic treaty organization ; to encourage our armed forces to deploy in regions closer to our northern borders. what russia might not want to do on its own. well, and finally, for them this is an important political symbolic victory - the consolidation of the west in relation to the east, which, in their opinion, is on the wrong side of history, but what is missing in this four-part equation. it is the awareness of the long-term consequences, and the first and second realization of how much it will really cost to protect the security of finland if russia now really calls into question our peace treaty with finland forty-seven and its main pillar. finland is being kicked out

of the existence of this treaty world by finland's neutrality. it's a rather decisive i would say, uh, a step on the part of our foreign policy and an open question whether the finnish elites are aware of american elites all long-term consequences of this decision. it seems to me that and when we are discussing the sanctions policy of the european union. and when we discuss, uh, sweden's forthcoming entry into nato in finland, we are confronted with the same phenomenon, and that phenomenon is the unprecedented control of the united states over the elites. e european countries, but almost total control, a which can be explained by the history of transatlantic relations after the second world war, which is certainly let's explain that humanitarian policy, by the way, about the importance of the humanitarian policy that the united states pursued and continues to pursue in relation to the elites, buying them, convincing them, and

teaching them at their universities, conducting them, uh, through their numerous ones. the program through its many foundations, and here we have the result so when the elites actually act in the interests of the united states against the interests of their own people, often, we will continue our discussion. after a few moments in the service understood? from monday on first, you understand, thanks to

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airspace of kaliningrad, since the corridor connecting the ex-clave with the rest of russia will be surrounded by nato members control over the perimeter of the baltic sea. it will also greatly facilitate nato's ability to defend its baltic allies in the event of a russian attack. well , here's the same argument. so that sweden's accession to finland in nato will dramatically increase the ability to protect the baltic countries, leads, er, carl bild. uh, the former prime minister of sweden and our great friend in quotation marks, but on the other hand, many experts. they say that it is from the military-technical from the military material point of view , there is little, what will change if uh, american or nato bases do not appear on the territory of finland, sweden? why because finland, sweden is already closely de facto integrated with nato. many of them are even called informal members, and nato, and since the 2000s they have been held in local exercises, and intelligence is exchanged, sweden

really constantly takes part in exercises. nato since 2017 there is a center in finland called the center of best practices in combating prominent threats, that is, in combating russia a, which is closely affiliated with nato yes, and it seems to be that , at least in the short term , there will not be any major qualitative consequences , or it will happen. what do you think, uh, on the one hand? you are absolutely right when you say that the entire logistics infrastructure is military planning. uh, regular documentation, everything, of course, hmm meets nato standards and already now between the secret services of sweden nato finland naturally coordinates and conducts joint operations, both in electronic intelligence and in cyberspace, but let's not forget, firstly, sweden is a full-fledged military

power with a very good military industry with a developed network of naval bases and airfields . yes , it seems that nothing is changing, but you understand that significant contingents may arrive here at any moment, contrary to the fundamental act, which russia will obviously also soon stop nato, and it has already been announced. i think, i think left now legally, for this to be recognized, because formally it seems to exist on the other hand, it is already devaluing it, but nevertheless we can get a new geopolitical reality. for example, in the event of an aggravation of some situation on the territory of finland, sweden, an alliance force may appear, military aviation, including those that carry tactical american nuclear weapons, missile systems may appear, so i would not. still saying that nothing will change and very seriously. well, judging by the comments

that both the foreign ministry and the russian security council have made, they still proceed from the fact that the situation will change according to a negative scenario. i completely agree with you. it is worth looking at the map and we will see that the baltic sea, with the exception of kaliningrad and st. petersburg, actually becomes the inland yes, the inland sea of ​​nato, and there are no obstacles to deploying the military infrastructure of nato of the united states on the territory of finland , sweden, uh, and. uh, it's definitely then 300, which russia will participate, but i think that russia will take into account this risk as it materializes on the one hand. yes, including, if taking into account the prospective options for the development of the situation, but, but here's what else will definitely change. this is the nature of russian finnish relations, and finland has maintained very honest economic relations with russia over the past few years. finland has positioned itself as a bridge between russia and the west even after its

entry into the european union. today the truth is finland is at the forefront of those countries that totally destroy all relations with russia and transport humanitarian in bortim and, e.g., economic vladimir dmitrievich, finland's accession to nato means the irreversibility of this destruction. and if so, what will this mean for finland itself for its economy. well, you know, politics and economics, they are honestly intertwined. and uh, ultimately, really up now, uh, take politicians who, unfortunately, are not guided by some long-term introductions, but somehow momentary. uh, being in this sanctions obsession, so it’s difficult to predict, uh, because there were times when russia cooperated well with countries that were members of nato and were wonderful. economic relations and we remember the time when this same germany, which itself, despite

the same pressure from the united states of america, was interested in the construction of gas and oil pipelines and for a long time and even recently, the eneman government managed to defend the right to lay the nord stream, 2, but then , uh, the situation began to change radically and now, uh, i think that this pressure is precisely political. moreover, i agree with my colleagues that this pressure primarily comes from the ocean, and for the sake of their influence on them, they are putting at stake. in general, the economic fate of europe and, of course, for finland, the closest universities economically connected with russia. it is also beneficial for us as a partner, but we are beneficial and for finland now this may come to an end, and not even because they will join nato simply by virtue of that flywheel of sanctions. which they launched and, of course, this political situation. she will only make the situation worse. well, and also, uh, i think the accession of

finland and sweden to nato is a fundamental tectonic change in the european security landscape, because uh , what existed for 70 years in the case of finland ceases to exist. i mean the policy of neutrality, and in the case of sweden, it existed for almost 200 years, but the architecture is changing, if you want european security, while the geography of nato and the geography of the european union in europe are becoming almost identical austria and ireland remain yes, like those countries of the european union that are not yet members, but in nato, and in fact, and the separation wall between russia and the collective west is being strengthened i must say that even within the united states, which are, of course, the main initiators of this policy , not everyone supports this. and here, uh, an example of an u expert and

a former u high-ranking employee the us state department, which does not support this. this is ann maris later. she was the head of foreign policy planning at the state department during the barack obama administration. she is now a professor at princeton university. and so. hear what she wrote about finland sweden joining nato the threat of russia invading finland or sweden is small, but accepting their military alliance will intensify 20th -century divisions in europe. in the 21st century. main the question here should be how to achieve the best result for the whole of europe, an integral free and peaceful europe as

george w. security structures and systems, eastern european countries, including russia e vladimir alekseevich what do you think? is it even possible in the current conditions to create in europe such an inclusive indivisible a security system that russia officially stood for for many years, but a system in which russia would be a full member, what henri is talking about and does russia need it in the current circumstances, taking into account the trends in the development of the global world that we are now observing, well, we have always said that we are in favor of an inclusive security system, i absolutely agree with you that the balance of power in northern europe is changing radically, uh, and artificial dividing lines are being formed, they are formed first of all, united states of america in general, i'm surprised if americans have strategic thinking. they would try to attract russia in every possible way in order to

prevent its alliance from china. however, it is obvious that somewhere the american strategic thinking, which allowed them to break out into one of the one of the status of world power. uh, after the first world war, certainly after the second world war, it was done somewhere like this, as far as the north and europe are concerned, there are a lot of very important points here, and sweden and finland yes no doubt. we have an agreement for the forty-seventh year, but we have. the relevant agreements from the baltic states, and lithuania declared us a state terrorist. seriously, she sent a statement, took away her ambassador, recalled him home, and closes her consulate. uh, there's a terrible event going on in latvia with, uh, demolition being planned. uh, a monument in soviet monuments is our common history, in fact. they tear themselves away from their own roots, but that's not even the point. they violate our bilateral agreement and in particular article 13 of it. what if one of the articles

violated, as stated in the fifteenth article, then, in fact, on this contract, but ceases to exist. that is, the situation is moving towards the fact that the security architecture in general in this baltic region is on the verge of collapse. eh why? because we are coming to a situation where we will have problems with bilateral agreements with finland. and here they began to discuss estonia with the baltics, but stopped, the question that they do not recognize russian territory, but specifically the pechora in front of sulfur. yes, er, here, the estonians are ready. refresh this dialogue is a rather serious threat , undoubtedly, from the point of view of russian security , it is necessary to purge an appropriate response, but in fact for e nato, e, atavism, cold war. eh, everything, time is not enough goal. well, there was a goal of the soviet union the soviet union is gone, the cold

war ended, but it still lives in their heads and it was necessary to look for some new goal of fighting global terrorism. there was a goal next. and hmm, is the goal to say hire what else? well, of course, russia and that is why solovyov underland declares that russia is a threat, but to the world order, but to the austin american ones, right? that is, they say that, uh, what a pity that uh, there is russia's nuclear potential, it is a threat. that 's all uh, it's basically a challenge. uh, the role of russia in the system of international relations. this essentially shows that americans are a key revisionist. system they are the ones who started all this and want to form these artificial lines. hoping to subordinate themselves to at least the european, e part of the systems of international relations, therefore returning to your question, the hope that in the short term an inclusive

security system will be formed, there is no such hope. but the fact that we worked on it is by no means closed to isolate such a large country as russia is impossible. this is exactly what we will continue. eh, do it. we are not closing. it is they who are closing themselves off from us and already today, uh, for them, uh, there are a lot of negative consequences, uh, related to their standard of living. it will only get worse if they continue this trend well i agree on in fact, that's the 100 europe we're seeing today. we probably don't need an inclusive space. but, and here is another very important aspect of the problem, which worries me very much. i mean the expansion of nato from sweden to finland is a fictional deliberate and defiant ignorance of the russian red lines that russia speaks openly and publicly about and after all , pay attention when we observe the deliveries of western weapons. and is it really the provision of intelligence information to ukraine from one

sides. and when we see failure. of the west to even discuss russian proposals on security guarantees , including the inadmissibility of ukraine's entry into nato, and when we talk about nato expansion to sweden, finland, we are faced with the same phenomenon, because both there and there we are talking about really deliberate and a defiant refusal to even take into account , let alone to somehow respect, but at least to take into account the russian red lines, which russia spoke about openly, but publicly unambiguously. but regardless of whether a end of the special operation in ukraine russian concern with the immediate neighborhood with nato will not disappear. yes, but it's bad for russia if ukraine becomes part of nato. but it's also bad for russia that in finland, it will be, e, part of nato,

the russian-finnish border is 1,200 km. and this problem will not go away and the west deliberately this problem. uh, ignores, and this in turn can lead to a serious escalation, because one of the most important features of russian foreign policy is that russia is practically never bluffing, yes and please note. now , if we look at the entire history of russia's foreign policy, starting with vladimir putin's munich speech, we see that these are the cases when russia said that this is a red line, and you can’t cross it. russia really then did certain actions. yes, she would have been forced to resort to military tools in case her red line was violated, this was in 2008. this was in 2014. and that was in the twenty-second year. yes, and now once again west, uh, russian red lines are being violated. i'm

not talking in any way and i don't want to scare anyone. why , uh, russia, uh, will carry out, uh, a special military operation against finland - this is practically impossible, but, yes. here is the fact that the west once again, even against the backdrop of the current military conflict in ukraine, repeats the same deliberate mistake. this is a very dangerous phenomenon, and about which, in particular, today, uh, deputy chairman of the russian security council, dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, when he spoke about a dangerous eska here, let's hear what dmitry medvedev said. in the conditions unleashed by western countries, a proxy thief with russia, i want to articulate things very clearly once again, and so obvious to all reasonable people. the first pumping by nato countries of ukraine with weapons. preparing its troops to

use western technology, sending mercenaries and conducting alliance exercises near our borders increases the likelihood of a direct and open conflict between nato and russia instead of a war of proxy being waged by them. second. this kind of conflict is always there is a risk of a full-fledged nuclear war. third, it will be a catastrophic scenario for everyone. i think this is the strongest or one of the strongest statements e official statements from the russian side that the current hybrid war that the west unleashed against russia could turn into a hot war, and we will continue to discuss this topic in a few moments. i read the title 32 meters on the

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