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types of pain. there is a big game on the air, we just talked about the risks of the hybrid war that the west is waging against russia into a hot war, but this risk is for today. at least, it doesn't seem very big to me. why because in the west, apparently, they are beginning to come to an understanding that russia is not bluffing. and that that course, uh, which he proclaimed openly, and the biden administration on strategic weakening of russia and inflicting defeat on it, but it is very dangerous and is just fraught with this very escalation and among the critics of such a course. recently, one of the most respected american experts in international affairs has joined the president of the council on foreign relations council. richards let's hear what he wrote in the other zinc edition. for

starters, the us and its partners will need to prioritize and limit their targets in ukraine, which means giving up talk of regime change. at moscow would also be wise for western authorities to put aside talk of war crimes tribunals for high-ranking russian officials and stop boasting about how they are helping ukraine hit high-ranking russian generals and ships. to weaken russia is not the goal of america; on the contrary, the united states must emphasize that they want an early end to the war on terms that reflect sovereign and independent status of ukraine, diplomacy is not a favor, but a national security tool that should continue to be used in relations with russia, private meetings between high-ranking civilian and military

officials of western countries and russia should be forgotten in order to reduce the risks that could lead to confrontation or a worse scenario , and to explore opportunities for limited collaboration. andrey andreevich against the backdrop of an increasingly loud chorus of criticism of the current policy of the biden administration. can this policy to change towards greater responsibility? i see little provision for this at the moment in foreign policy, in fact. now it is such a behind-the-scenes affair of the city of washington that it is not discussed with the american public. the american public is preoccupied with inflation, which has so far been linked to the events taking place in europe. although biden. he is trying to explain this rise by the steps of vladimir putin and i believe that the chorus that so far. in fact, these individual voices of experts cannot be called a chorus. not er, relating many of them many there are enough of them. but so far

this is not a chorus. this individual at least once cannot be suspected. about russian views, this is one of the most consistent critics of russia, but he is still trying to object to the general mood in this washington living room. in general, this is the site of the action of what you know, our main goal, in fact, is not ukraine, it is the crushing of russia and he is trying to add a little realism to this reasoning, but frankly speaking, i have little faith that these reasoning will be able to , a qualitatively change american courses at the moment. the fact is that human nature, apparently, is such that we are not able to learn from the mistakes of the past and although the experience of the cold war is extremely important, the experience of the best practices of the cold war mutual restraint of military behavior, avoiding provocative steps. it was once developed by us and in the united states. now, apparently, washington is gradually leaving as an important instrument of foreign policy planning is inevitable. this will lead us to a situation that

will vaguely resemble the caribbean missile crisis. when there is an understanding on the whole scale of society that in reality we can all lose ourselves as a result of this is your step? it's not just some, you know, far from us. uh, media phenomena one country. we accepted the second one into nato. we accepted into nato, uh, which means that somewhere a ship flew in, somewhere a plane flew by, and each step has an immediate effect. uh, the direct impact on the security of us as a nation, and i'm afraid that such a reckless line from washington that he consistently pretty leads the last 30 years will inevitably force us here we all, seems like how humanity will again get that formative crisis of generations, i that will allow us, uh, to realize the value of peace and the importance of mutual watchful behavior in the field of security. well, it seems to me that this is still an analysis of washington

, at least in the expert community. canceled, because some liberals, like charles kapchan and some neocon neocons, like matthew kroenick, also focus on escalation danger. yes, and now in the expert community, the topic of escalation is one of the most prevalent topics, and even the administration is starting to sort of make some gestures towards escalation, for example, the state department. e issued, according to the washington post metadata, an instruction. yes, in which he forbade the transfer of a certain part. is this information to ukraine at least, it declares, yes, intelligence of information a, which, uh, could be used for strikes against russian high-ranking military leaders and uh for attacks on russian territory. we don't know if this is true or not, but nevertheless, at the level of rhetoric, it is said that no, no, we still don't want, uh, to enter directly into the war. e with russia but, no matter how the american

policy develops to prolong the ukrainian conflict. yes , and it remains indisputable that the united states is promoting a bloc approach in international relations in general and is trying to put pressure on non-western countries to join the american bloc. today in washington us osian summit opens. yes osian is an association of southeast asia which includes 10 countries. well, it’s true that eight out of ten uh leaders flew to washington, and the assian countries, that is, uh, and now it’s obvious ah, washington’s approach is obvious, but strangely, the osians want to talk about the problems of the asian pacific region washington wants to talk about the ukrainian crisis, but also about the russian-chinese alliance, which, from the point of view of the united states and they will try to convince of this strange session, poses a threat, including for aspen vladimir alekseevich do you think it will be possible for washington to force the

asean countries? uh, to join an american blog and choose precisely this bloc approach, and not the broad multipolarity of international relations, firstly, you need to remember why the osyan was created, and the session was created just to increase the potential of, uh, these small and medium-sized states. e in the system of international relations, not allowing the influence of the soviet union and the united states of america, this site is the goal. uh, in the late sixties, it was created for axes in order to to increase the potential of a strange member of this alliance, and here the question is, and the fact that today these countries are of very little concern to them, what he said, the ukrainian case. the issue of security in europe is always safe , relatively speaking, indonesia is the most seismically dangerous area in the world. there is an earthquake every day. uh, there are problems related to the disappearance of the capital of jakarta under water, and the issue

of transferring capitals. yes, this is it. these kinds of questions are questions that exist, but interethnic nature of the inter-religious nature of the regional order is very important. and also this is equidistance from the strongest of the world, therefore it is obvious that most of the countries of this region are not very ready to become part of this block thinking, on the contrary, they are trying to protect themselves from this block of thinking with all possible, and impossible means. this is what is really busy today. uh, this region is occupied. well, i completely agree with you uh, in fact, indonesia uh, the key side of the osian, eh not only has not joined the anti-russian sanctions, but she is today the chair of the g20, the united states tried to force indonesia to refuse the invitation of russian representatives, including vladimir

putin to the g20 event, and the summit is in pain, and indonesia did not succumb to this pressure claims that will continue to invite. e vladimir putin and e russia the only osian country that has imposed anti-russian sanctions. and this is singapore, no one else, and another osian country, vietnam, in principle, is one of our closest partners, e.g. in southeast asia and therefore it seems to me that the united states will not succeed in promoting the bloc approach, and the world will certainly become multipolar and russia needs in every possible way to increase economic and political and military and cultural, and cooperation with these non-western countries, including countries. aspen, they are our natural partners, and a multipolar world is

inevitable. and the question will be europe ah? happiness this multipolar world remains open as a pole, but you must agree that this is not cold or hot for the multipolar world. we will certainly remain one of the leading leaders in this multipolar world, and we are also a natural partner for those countries that value their subjectivity, who value their sovereignty, and who also want to be leading players in many ways in the new flight-centric multipolar world. it was a big game. all the best. we saw the video, and most importantly, can it be trusted and why did you shoot these questions? i

wonder lately. remember the cgi video about the bombing. recently, the same frightening one appeared in paris, but the scene of berlin, i thought, maybe this is not accidental and such frightening videos are created with some special specific purpose, which is what we will talk about today. this is an anti-fake program , here we are waging our fight against fakes and misinformation today in our studio timofey presenter racid expert alexander artamonov military expert and yuri vyacheslavovich gromyko uh director of the institute for advanced research named after slate doctor of psychology. hello. thank you for coming through the many programs. we have already u told and often talked about the fact that the ukrainian information troops create stuffing in

order to manipulate me and you and all the inhabitants of our country, but i paid attention to some details, for example, to, uh, how kiev officials speak to west and i came up with the idea that the victims of manipulation. maybe not only we, but the whole world, all these videos appeared, which we will now watch there in the capital of germany, berlin. and it was precisely she who was allegedly attacked by russian troops. this is probably a symbol of berlin. yes, the tv tower even the frames seem to be very similar, the frames, indeed. well, i watch the video and understand that this is absolutely some kind of primitive propaganda , let's start with the level of graphic effects. i think it's primitive. i think it's fantastically done. i look like that. i think from reality is hardly distinguishable. firstly, well, a person

who has at least a slight idea about graphics can see that there is a level of graphic effects here. somehow not strange decreased. that is, here some explosions are absolutely stock. that is, they don’t even try to do it more or less realistically at the moment when the rocket hits the building - this is generally some kind of pain, that is, even an inexperienced viewer will see that it has nothing to do with reality at all. but see it. it 's more of an impact. everything is drawn. even understandable even to a child. can this be confused with a real bombing at all or not? alexander is not, of course, none in the world. not only is the span e supposed to be hyper. rather, the scope of the sound itself. someone of a supersonic, naturally and immediately rising cloud, and behind the armored burg gates, but u understand this, yes, it’s good that the program was shown in the past video about paris parisian fairies, as i conditionally call even uh similarity. e overlay frames here, so to speak, the sky with a flying plane and landscapes of a european city. maybe the

ammo itself. it does not cause such an effect, it does not cause it in this place, because the speed of the aircraft, respectively, as a rule. well let's be even uh more precise, uh, the plane is a platform. he fires a rocket that flies along its own trajectory over a very long range. on this occasion, at the moment the rocket hits, most likely, not one person will see the plane, because well, if it’s a bomber, then it ’s dobreevich’s altitude, so to speak, bombing too not produce. he doesn't need it. i take the same technical details, but they do. it 's impossible. here is that particular frame. he flew supersonic supersonic aircraft and immediately, so to speak, inversions. rises, so to speak, uh, explosion cloud yuri vyacheslavovich tell me what do you think, berlin is now, how is the second capital? yes , the european one is chosen here by chance or not by chance? well, in my opinion, it’s not random at all. in general , i see it all a little differently, it seems to me that this is a visual meme so viponized and here, in general, the question arises not about how to disassemble. to what extent are

various fragments reliably mounted. it is directed in the form of a very hard blow to the inhabitant of the planet in order to tell him that now the world is not guaranteed a peaceful existence, his security is under threat, not that under the wing of nato everything is calm without security. yes, absolutely right. it is focused primarily on the inhabitants of the eu, such a respectable, slightly cowardly subject to political manipulation in general, and more directed at the germans, and in my opinion. it is made in the following way. this is really such a kalash. but it is built on experience. and suddenly and suddenly, yes, he must break the usual type of self-determination. well, to cause such a shock and i am directly shocked by the perceived picture . and at this moment i do not reflect at all. i don’t think why i’m looking, for what, well, it’s generally difficult for the layman with reflection, but it is aimed at

destroying, uh, the usual type of self-determination and identification, what anthropologists call identity. well, what is the identity of the germans, the well- known proverb ordnh from das, halban, order, half of life, and from this point of view, the german should come into shock. yes, yes, and besides, there are nationalists who have already arrived outside the video, who swear yelling in the squares and it seems to me that with this type of system. that is, it is no longer just a layer of propaganda. propaganda outline this is the next type of uh cognitive stuff. well, here i really feel the hand of the americans , what i read about the creation of such forms in in particular, at the massachusetts institute of technology, a laboratory has been created there to create special visual memes. and in my opinion. this is no longer just a layer of disinformation propaganda. this is

already the next level to that is actually. in my opinion, visual terrorism is more peculiar. that is, terror is an interesting question. uh, back on february 19, zelensky spoke just at a security conference, and then he asked to return the status of a nuclear power to ukraine, but he was completely ignored and i understand correctly and with this, the question is whether the americans or those who stand behind them do not take it seriously there, in order not to demonize the entire american people, there is a goal. this is the goal to set fire to eurasia because the population, because there are many of us, because greta thunberg, we must destroy everyone that there were too many seals with seagulls. they do not need automation of production made everything clear, but the europeans. naturally, they don’t support this, because for them they loved us and dislike their collective home with us and on this occasion the goal that zelensky is talking about now, you just need to understand what is behind the creation of this fake, this german fake. there are two very interesting

moments here, zelensky is constantly feeding his nation, and it is precisely because of the bloody cloums that someone puts all these things into his consciousness that the salvation of ukraine is the beginning of the third world war. here is how in the ukrainian twilight consciousness the beginning of the third world is associated with the salvation of their country personally, the third world is the end of civilization. in its current izya, however. this is what he constantly tells everyone, we are in the grass, and the european union will be the third world and ukraine will be saved. hurray nato is in a state for us, and the russian men at arms, so to speak, will throw off and therefore. now here are all these videos, most likely built with the blessing of lengl, that is, the cia is pursuing this goal to the european. maybe not even buy it. but it does not matter, it is important that the ukrainians bought into it. the important thing is that to create a common zone of fear, russians are strangers here is the very alien with tentacles. i have such a thing, in general, an insect like an insect is not a person at all. here, it seems to me, it is really important to separate here the three perspectives

that well arise when perceiving this video, because there is a question related to political agreements and negotiations. this is one, as it were, a layer of the second moment. uh, what alexander germanovich said. i think it's very important. it really is. anglo-saxon directing aimed at lighting a big fire war in eurasia, because the main point is connected with the fact that the eurasian continent should not be allowed to be a single whole in degul's expression or europe from lisbon to the far east, so to speak, in some other options, but the third most important point, which it seems to me, uh, is of cognitive interest within the framework of this video. this is the impact on the german layman on the german. and here are the moments associated with a fictitious montage with generally, er, some generally such lurid preludes. they are

completely unimportant, because what is important is completely different, it is important to generate thoughts. and suddenly, this suddenly with a switch to the fact that we are getting rid of collective guilt and right there, located on the square of the nazis, but the historical ukrainian nazism was founded by hitler and this is a well-known moment. that is, we have a very serious and terrible anthropological phenomenon, in my opinion, on the other hand. here, it seems to me, is a very important question. how to actually answer? such a fake, well, you can only answer it with the truth, but you need the same level, it’s probably better to put it on the same level, or somewhere to show something, the next, that why this all happened, because 8 years ago the genocide of russians was carried out, uh, in the luhansk region and in the donbass and people who were entrusted with negotiating and the burgher turned off he conveyed

that they not only did nothing, but they contributed to the fact that ukrainian nationalism, sucked in blood and permissiveness, turned into a beast. and this moment it should be demonstrated shown. in my opinion in answer with big ones, of course, because this is actually an autopsy of the truth for the unconscious german. so, why these nationalists are rooted here on the square is simply because we have been quietly watching this for 8 years and did not want to think about it at all merkel, that is, there. toils and obse and there, many people in russia did not want to think about it, and when all this happened, then they pointed it out to them, i did not see it. i don’t know, it’s not about me dmitry spik dmitry leonidovich joins our conversation hello tell me please, what techniques are used here and what they are used for in this video, the video is simple, and therefore it is very effective

. that she takes a clumsy selfie, and it immediately attracts the attention of tourists who come from all over europe, and now they have recently come from all over the world and are doing the same thing, which means that they associate themselves in the world with her. this is followed by a sharp breakdown of this frame or scenario, e, the planes arrive from the east, because at the stupid gates they look there with their horses and with extraordinary speed make a disgrace , the effect of a deceived expectation, that is, a tourist who has prepared for an idyll. she enters a completely different world, which is imposed on her for a second and a half. however, it is not shown. who did this? these are pure mechanisms - you know, these are aliens. here are the wells,

who have neither feelings nor a concrete appearance. all together creates a very short and very solid image, causing subconscious anxiety even in a person who knows such fakes, but in general there is enough work. that i am very cheap precisely because it is designed for a very wide circle of consumers. and not only germans, as i think, but in general european bon vivants , lawyers of girls taking selfies and so on. well, you , as a specialist, of course, are watching this, but still , an ordinary person most likely gets the impression that all this is reality. yes and here i would like to know if there are any points set or in front of the ukrainian authorities. eh, to somehow charm the audience, still win over with the help of such videos. i don’t think it’s the ukrainian authorities, because it was obviously done in a good studio, and in general, it was done with sense and sense. i believe that

entire teams working on fakes of this kind are already working throughout europe and north america , probably there is a competition and there are grants that are issued for this case. here come and resist this is absolutely essential. i'm generally a parallel thread. e designed not only for a reasonable understanding, but also for a purely figurative social perception. thank you very much for joining us today. uh, all the best to you , by the way, i would like to note that there are always symbols, yes, that is, most likely during an attack. no one would have bombed and the gates and other symbols of the city would have been hit, most likely, on some other more important object in the city. yes, you see, in this case, i would say alexander e that i really do not want to switch to tactical language, but in any case. cryptocurrency never flies alone. it is he who flies in the flight as part of a group of some kind, so to speak, there is no tactical group there, so to speak,

the squadron's flight wing already depends. here are the tasks, a type of military equipment. well, at least for the simple reason that it must be covered by other defenseless combat vehicles. he is absolutely he, why is he here or what? maybe that night hunter the sun rose, that's our mi-28 he lost, uh orientation turned out to be on berlin and genock planes again. well, what if this plane means that it is conducting an air battle with someone there, that it is kinder even at a height in which the roof would be torn off, if from above the atmosphere the sounds of the past plane were at such a height above the city, then there excuse me the shock wave was such that it's the girl's glasses pressed into the cracks, that is, it means that, well, it's impossible. just by itself all together, of course, single explosions will not be right you saw the series you went, so to speak, around the city, so it's impossible, but i didn't even want to move to this level. i'm just answering a question. uh, it means that the armor-piercing turn of it simply did not become, but close to the close gap and correctly said both specialists, professionals, what is it? of course, a certain symbol of the end of the second world war , you germans were right, it turns out, it’s a

pity that we don’t need short wave transmitters anymore, because now we are terribly jammed in the west, you can build, and good films and not forgetting two of them. we had the films unknown war. and non-thief, where we talked about what we did germans in concentration camps and there was a movie. uh, not our apocalypse today apocalypse, which showed the atrocities of the americans in vietnam but you have to convey to the viewer. and now how do we get through to the consciousness of this audience. you'll remind those or otherwise were closed. yes, you see, we had a support group for the reso communists, those years, the sixties, seventies, now there is no one , this fake really looked very impressive, but right after the advertisement we will talk about how fakes are already used two or three times and we'll be back four times very soon. the french committed a war crime against the civilian population of africa, but they are trying to shift the responsibility to russia for this, they created a shocking fake by showing a video that has too

many questions. why in drone footage? there is no beginning or end, and we were shown only a fragment of the recording and what a terrible truth the french are hiding, as well as how western journalists and the french general staff were able to see the russians in the footage of frankly poor quality exposure world wide lies. coming soon antifreak tomorrow at first it's a pleasure for me to work with him very cool. a lot of interesting features work. some modern methods are generally young, but with a name, that is, you liked working with each other. i'm talking about mts bank - this is a reliable bank based on the resources of the mts company, a convenient solution to your questions online, as well as more than 5,000 service points throughout russia after practice. we

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