today is the most amazing. well, i read in alexander khodorkovsky's telegram channel, so khodakovsky is in command of one of the most combat-ready units , the vostok battalion, and is performing these tasks. e. here, he writes, imagine a man writes, what are the nightlights of the radio station for war. and it really is. this is another reality that we must honestly recognize all the people who are with the army. he is now helping to equip this army. stop lying to each other that there is everything you need not all that is needed. there is everything that needs to appear when we all help it together. and now people are collecting, people are throwing off, people are being taken. so i told you yesterday about the father of a marine, whom we met. there, near azov, they are going to bring steel. it would seem a common cause, someone threw off all the money. someone bought, someone found, someone is lucky, what is happening. alexander khodakovsky asks what is going on in the minds of the people the traffic police slows down the traffic police and creates problems in the

second month. i do not know the reaction to this or to that, that alexander khodakovsky, a well-known respected person, wrote or someone else wrote. listen about the rostov customs for 2 months already only a lazy cry. doesn't scream. well, the traffic police noticed. this, of course, is nice, that it seems that, in the second to the third month of the special operation, they reacted. at least recognized in the course. you see, during the monitoring of the media and the internet, the main department of the ministry of internal affairs of russia for the rostov region revealed a publication, and allegedly illegal for 2 months, half of those who travel and through customs through the traffic police write about it. well, how would one eye has already woken up with one eye. they saw all this, my friends, all this is what i am all about , that we all together need to open both eyes and start doing all this with both hands, as people like alexander khodakovsky actually do, his fighters are all who are there everyone who helps them fights. we will be right now with alexander khodakovsky. persuade.

i hope everything is fine with us alexander good afternoon. how do you hear us? tell me what you have there is your feelings of opinion. we are you we listen. good afternoon or good evening. thank you for inviting me to air the question was raised about what is happening now. well, in that specific local area , now local, which we called let's call it there, is happening now. well, let's say that the enemy is being crushed and the war has rolled over, probably from such a tactical, probably to an information-propaganda plane, because now there is a lot of talk around this, a lot of discussions about the exchange of withdrawal. there are various options being considered. that's what to do with these six hundred wounded, how to exchange them? well, that is, now it's all a single plane, that's enough. alive. well, as a matter of fact, we are not here today. lied 4:30 am. again , we received a counterattack from their side, if we talk about a specific, uh, concrete business of ours, which we

are doing there, they are again drawn into the tunnel that i am writing about, now it is all focused to the level of these small local tasks. and today we realized by example for dinner that for the first time we understood unequivocally that we are fighting as mercenaries. it our attack aircraft were recorded by the commander, in particular, he clearly saw and understood the group with the call sign kordon and he even heard communication between themselves their own, but probably the last exit points, which probably did not hope to use the very last moment, because we really dug this tunnel, four meters or three meters high for ourselves, well, it is quite expected, because we systematically we are working on, let's say, studying and identifying such things. the team, after all, was something not one fly did not fly there. so we are working in this direction, we found it, but we did not expect to meet such fierce resistance. here,

for the second day we are finishing off this tunnel, the team of the 2008 army allocated 300,000 more kilograms of tnt from the barsky shoulder to us . well , that is, we have two planes now, where the war is being implemented on the one hand, the media informational propaganda, on the other hand. here's one, maybe not so big. well, at the same time, it's important enough. i'm just about, but both of these planes. i wanted to ask you a question about the first plane, purely military. but your work is still their attempts to break through, and, oh, which you just said, these are really attempts to break through with the goal of really leaving there, or is it some kind of designation of activity. well, in order to tease you with these hostilities, so that you get the feeling that they are there after all. what do you think, these are military actions, the purpose of which is first of all. i think that they are not the first, not the second here. it’s not a priority for them,

most likely, it was really important for them , uh, the site is an important direction of a possible retreat, because after all, if azov steel is 9 km across along the long diagonal, then its circumference. you can imagine how much it is, and along this circle, there is a long section of several kilometers that adjoins the river. and if all the other parts are behind tired go to the city, which is occupied by us, then the river and the floodplain of the river, which is on the one hand. there it goes into the sea on the other side to the north. well , it still seems to me. in the same last desperate way, they are approaching behind the steel, and we, apparently, have found a pain point, because they were renting quarter after quarter. i mean, technical quarters. well, not much of a regret. right now they are here, here they jumped out without any special pressure in the morning from this tunnel will be 15,000 people screaming. russian mercenaries surrender, which in itself caused bewilderment in the fighters who were waiting for their appearance, because we are these equipped now,

just because of what you are talking about and were talking before i began my monologue about providing assistance, we are now equipped with night vision equipment. we found all kinds of them in advance, the guys looked at each other and opened fire. they drove them back into the tunnel. and where is what? surrender was not entirely clear, of course, where did they get such bravado, but then they are accumulated in one of the covering tonal buildings. and here they are now, according to information from half an hour ago, they are still sitting and fighting back here. here is what we have already firmly applied various means of direct fire, but they nevertheless butt and ours are in the most immediate proximity. well, literally there is 30 m, and according to the statement, as i already said the commander, that the groups he understood that the mercenaries were not opposed and it seems to me that for them this site and perhaps others like it are somewhere else. we will say to the end we are still not sure that we are the last to discover a channel, so to speak, for a potential escape. here it is of great importance, and they are fighting for it, probably because it is something that they

designate themselves. well, i would not evaluate their situation as such vigorous enough to deliberately pull us, to show that we are still alive, we resist. we crush them and as we push them through. they resisted so much. as a matter of fact, they show quite peppy, but i'll tell you, so i've been posting my telegram channel here is the video a short. in fact, the story is much more dramatic there. this is a couple that broke through to our rear. she was so processed and hand and grenades and grenades with ags log logs that, well, not one normal person. it's just not that it didn't survive. yes, he simply lost in this either consciousness or simply adequacy, and these continued to somehow show some kind of activity and there was a very strong impression that they were really under something. they are pumped up there, that they are not sensitive to more, because grenades exploded. here is the immediate vicinity of the bodies. they are nonetheless. after a while, they got up, got up and continued to walk. they are thrice. they ran to our rear and tried to

do something. that is, you understand, they are already holding on there on the last effort of will and stimulate themselves unequivocally with some kind of medication or narcotic, in other ways. that is, they are no longer adequate. they just, it seems to me, are kept only on chemistry. and, accordingly, the question about the second component, about which you said, this is a media information you being there in this close proximity to them seeing all these attempts. well, somewhere under some substances, it does n’t matter, but nonetheless. you are watching in parallel with the fighting. these are some negotiations, these are their endless statements of appeal to someone you have, and i know that you have it in force and your previous service. now there is a penchant for analysis. you have an understanding of what goal they set for this media story of theirs with these constant appeals, one another third, and so on, what do you think they achieve, what do they want? i already have a strong impression

that they want to give up to go out, but to do it, but with the maximum noble mine, as it seems to me, that is, they would have already raised their hands, but they do not want them to turn into des- in the opinion of those who supported them all this time in shorts. i don't rule it out. i'll even tell you more. i am almost sure that during personal contacts there was a decent contact. i mean when the evacuation took place and when the russian military met directly with representatives of azov or there the ukrainian armed forces met, there at designated places. and they discussed, i will say, so these comrades and understand me the information they are discussing. eh, options. perhaps or the probability of surrender and all. here, how is it? it seems to me that it is aimed at justifying your step later on your act, in order to form a public opinion in advance that it was hard for them, how unbearable it was for them, that they are not just cowardly and cowards, who are the first dangers there, uh, how they raised their hands and surrendered to the

enemy. no, they fought to the last and only and only exhausted all possibilities. they were forced to. me, especially after they were all turned down. whoever they turned to, they were forced to give up. i'm sure it's still methodically going to surrender. and after a while , a week or two. maybe less, maybe a little more, we'll see how e vaunted evil will come out with raised hands. god forbid, and i also have one question for you, not about the situation directly around azov became around these people, well, since, as you said, you heard my initial monologue, just about this here. e, well awareness of our common problems of the degree of depth of these problems for people who are directly. here in the war zone. you always somehow know everything more clearly and tangibly, and i understand that you have an understanding of the problem or problems that we, as a society, are now facing. you have much more of it. here, in your opinion, what is the main problem that

we now as a society are facing, which we need to overcome, what is holding us back, what is hindering us, in your opinion, a person performing combat missions. the degree of involvement of society as a whole, it is conditional, there are simply people whose war directly concerns this mother's wife. children, relatives, there are fathers, as if correctly speaking about the father of a marine. these people, of course, are unanimous people who have such a degree of their inner human patriotism. very tall. they are also unanimous with what is happening. well, until now, many fence themselves off, as if from a bad dream in the hope of waking up tomorrow, and everything will be as it were and they don’t realize that because nothing in this life, especially in russia, will be the same as no one was until the end did not realize this. not e administrative bureaucracy apparatus in full measure. not e normal townsfolk

did not fully realize, so i completely agree with you. that's when the awareness comes that this is our common cause and our common misfortune, then they will eventually. we radically turn the tide not only on the front line, but also inside. because the society needs some sort of spiritual transformation. it seems to me that insight is needed to some extent, because today i am in a narrow circle of specialists. there, the generals of the heroes of russia expressed the phrase. i say what you want. you say, understand correctly that for 8 years ukraine has been pumping up hatred for russia it’s quite monosyllable without any conventions for its younger generation of fourteen-year-old guys who were fourteen years old at the time of the maidan. now, since the start of the operation, it has already become twenty two-year-old men capable of holding weapons with a well-formed ideology and attitude towards russia and at the same time, all these 8 years. we tell the russian society, even the russian military and russian security officials, that ukraine is our brotherly people. and i will say this, looking ahead, so that no one reproached me for condemning such an approach to odessa, on the contrary, i

myself am a supporter of when a similar situation happens. probably, by virtue of the russian soul and russian character, we will and should do the same we will say harm to ourselves, do not pump ourselves with hatred, we will be among the stupid people. he says yes, ukraine is a fraternal people. and yes, we must remember our trinity and our kinship, but nevertheless, in fact, what happened was that by the beginning of the special operation, we turned out to be that society, no matter how emotionally in the right unnecessary tone, we don’t have such prejudice in ukraine. what is, uh, from the side of ukraine, we have been with us for 8 years - this prejudice was implanted in the brains and now we see the result and when our guys go there, well, not to the end, understanding with whom with what and why they are dealing, then it takes time for this awareness to take root in our heads. that's right. absolutely right. talk about the fact that now the society must move to new tracks and to a new realization that we are now already. well, let's say that the rubicon in front of it is the point of no return , we are already all of us in a new life and

everyone needs to realize this, and then, probably, we , uh, the processes of transformation in society, and even in relation to war, they will go more like this. at the pace we need thank you very much, alexander hello to all your fighters. i did not reach you on this visit. i hope to get to know you in person. hello everyone, good luck. good luck victory no matter what will be ours. it was alexander khodakovsky happily. well, pyotr olegovich tell me, please, this is what we are talking about here a lot, what khodakovsky was talking about now, after all, where is this, where is this line, beyond which, well, everyone wakes up. well, you, too, probably have the feeling that somewhere there are people who woke up and understand everything, and somewhere here you are driving some distance from the border. and as if someone does not have anything that is needed for this. why is this happening? this is the traffic police there, customs, that's a

lot of things. well, i agree with what was said. many people think that it is a special military operation. she goes somewhere there, that it does not concern them, that they will wake up, in 2-3 weeks or in a month, and everything will be the same, nothing will be the same. and if a conscience did not wake up in a person, some kind of internal conscience did not wake up. i do not know the conscience of a russian person. here, uh, how to wake her up, maybe only mobilization. maybe just some kind of situation in which a person gets up and understands that he must go, because otherwise this war cannot be won. this mobilization. you see, when they live in the belgorod region, where this boy runs, where these photos hang there in the window, where where all these men live it happens, where the governor understands everything, he changed his profile picture. but now you understand that here in moscow, and here it is so arranged, the country, that on how in moscow a lot depends, like where

is it? it's like waking it all up. it woke up, actually. i've just recently been in one small. e village, there, in fact, 500 people of the population, seven people are fighting. here are seven people in a small village in a small one. yes, this is not moscow and people. they live much worse there than in moscow now, the least money, the least i talked to my mother. e two soldiers. they are officers of the pskov division a. she is waiting for them. she cries, she is like any mother. going through calls trying to find out how it is and what and so you know, all all the neighbors all around understand her, they sympathize and empathize with this situation as their own until we start to empathize with this situation, nothing will happen as long as there are people who say, listen no need to talk about it. let's loosen it up a bit. we'll solve it there . let's remove this from the agenda, of course,

somehow we all have to start somehow. it seems to me that already someone could begin to worry about himself. he has already begun to empathize. artyom i am sure that you cannot force someone to empathize. this is a question that everyone decides for his soul himself. in what way is he involved in the fate of russia? why do we need to see this story through to the end? why is it necessary that you tell me that every one here who, as he understood, understood. who didn't understand. well, that's what i don't understand. no, i'm talking about the fact that those who do not understand, they still have everything ahead, they will understand anyway, but the question is that this is the time and these are the lives of our soldiers. that's the thing, the main thing is that they got up well about azov. well, here is alexander khodakovsky. in general, it’s quite interesting and he told about all this in detail, but still i’m trying to understand for myself, it’s the same with the day it becomes more and more surrealistic show this, by the way, to the question of what we also need to understand who are the people who are against us, what do they do oxen to this

endless, which means, here he was. i even lost count. he turned to the western authorities, turned to the pope at risk, turned to erdogan, turned. listen , this is not a joke. he addresses elon the mask. and he treats him. here it is, they say, you came from another planet. here is the feeling that he is trolling, sitting down there, by the way, with mado-dozhon, azov people are going to the pope. that's all this is some chur but the same sur. this is according to some kind of scenario, now the question arises for us about this. here's how to understand this scenario. and what can we do to counter it? well, since i am so to my mind, we can pass, as the fact 3.000 is called. good thing, yes, very good thing, concrete bomb and so on and so forth we have a similar one, but for some reason we don’t want to oppose it yet. that is, while we hope that through ilona the mask and through the pope somehow all this will resolve. here's what's happening in your opinion. you know, in my opinion there is uh, that is, everyone

who is sitting. now in the basement they are, in essence , hostages, hostages of several things, hostages. in fact, the images are held hostage by huge ukrainian propaganda. uh, what is the heaviness of the roman priests? they understand very well that the pope of rome will not help in any way? their own someone sends there, but most importantly, it includes everything. the pope is sticking in this war. it 's all working for a big propaganda and while they're sitting down there, you can make points on it, and they 're told to sit, sit, sit. i think that, in principle, most likely, they say that the guys give up. you always have time, but you need to work out your seat to the maximum, you know, so that everyone can see dad there. boiling wives, uh, there i don't know, there is the madonna weeping, anyone, world. you see, they work for the world. they are the same understand that they understand very well that they are a proxy army of the big west, but in a sense, i cannot help but ask this question, because here i was there for 5 days, i have 5 days. it

was all asked. the guys did well. and what do they do? why are they in this scenario? this is understandable. and we and we i think what you mentioned here is very good information. uh, how do you say it? a tool that you just need to use the fact 3,000 more often, you know, by and large, we should just calmly. do you have an understanding you are a military expert, why don’t we, well, more precisely, we use it like this, that is, we use it, then we don’t use it, then we don’t use it, which means we have a silence mode. they come out. they are regrouping. they rearrange the mines. they do it. and so on and so forth with you. in short, i got the idea. do you understand what they play you explained to me? do you have understanding? what we play is, uh, we don't play. when i sit here and you find yourself, nothing happens. i 'm calling my friend this morning who's over there works, nikita e, and. uh, i say, as he says, well, you know, he says it rattles all day,

that is, we are everywhere what we hit, periodically large calibers arrive when they show their videos like this already. the front door can be seen how they sit there with their heads covered and, you know, discussing. which is stronger and which is weaker? that is, it is clear that it is not even a war of nerves that is going on, but there is a stretching of these nerves, when they begin to tear, they perfectly understand that there are no ways out, and we are not going to give, but i repeat, we are dealing with a huge fortress, you know, a fortress that is impossible uh, well, how do you say? it just needs to be chewed on. just slowly trample down calmly. and when it will be almost done, there is no doubt. these utility cockroaches from the basements will give up, right? by the way, i just want to say about this. well, this is such a detail. she is famous. i won’t reveal any secrets here, but i just know for sure that when you walk, in these er, previous cellars, where they were before, where they smoke them from. there, in fact, stacks of bales lie this

overalls of workers. here it is. well, it's just dark here, so we made screenshots, in principle, it 's on the video. everything there is littered with piles and bales with the overalls of these same workers. azov got up. and these are the basements where the vushniks and azov people were sitting. that is, roughly speaking, all of them who are sitting there can change into these clothes. and this means that since for some reason they dragged them here with them to the basement, it means that they have some idea from there somehow , but to sneak away. well, actually the military. i mean, actually, they're doing nothing 24/7 other than planning. uh, how can they go out and participate in side collisions, there is nothing else to do there, but some are still on the air, so i think they have the most fantastic plans discussed there, how they will fly to turkey in a balloon uh, hmm, including in disguise although they are fine, they see that, thank

god, the work after the operation is delivered very well. they work by filtering, sitting in basements can't see they can assume they're there are and may assume that there are some moves around this filtration. they have a connection with the outside world, so they can be told this. here is the very person to whom the oxen is drawn to this connection, and we provide to give due connection, good uh around. there are no azov, no one has, that is, of course. there is a fact of 3,000, but there are connections so that the units can talk to each other, well, that is, she probably exists somewhere, but she just hasn’t been brought up yet, i’ll say that, in general, they made communication a resident peaceful. that's not enough. they also gave it to the right person, they gave it all, everything is right here. for some reason i didn't. yes? so i 'm talking about this, why is that, that elon musk gave them e-e modems, and they have a connection to go out a mask column, and our units have each other. well , there are such problems. i wanted about the fa- about the mask. well, here's the actual solution . i think that the connections of corruption, and this

applies not only to azov, have become this applies to avdiivka. the time will show program continues to work live, but we started talking about mariupol about azovstal yes, i remember that we kind of have to finish this, that is, you understand in an amazing way that this is how alexander khodakovsky told us on skype that there really are two components - there is a military component and an informational component from the point of view of the military component of azovstal in general, it’s about nothing, but from the point of view of the informational feeling that almost the fate of the war is being decided for ukraine there. and so, well, yes, continue 3.000 is at the intersection of these two vectors, military and information propaganda absolutely. in general, i am sure that e is in the view of our command, probably, even after all, the military-political military-political authorities.

mm. there is an idea of ​​the means used, which are effective, which are terrible, and which are terrible. so their use is postponed to an impossible limit, when after that it’s impossible to do otherwise , because there is, but this is still only a psychological escalation of a kind, that is, uh, we gradually entered into what we began to shoot and or in my head the fourteenth year can't remember, it can't be that they will shoot at civilians can shoot at us on may 12, 2022. we are prozovtsy, what we don’t know are tradesmen, the azovians nightmared their own people and not theirs there in the fourteenth year, and until 22 the azovites built a fortress there in every house as a result of what this city? well, to a large extent , they ceased to exist in front of everyone, both their own and ours, shooting these civilians so that they could not leave. they wear nazi symbols. why are we not in them? what do we not understand yet? and

in general, it’s not in them that we cross the matter, they ask before crossing. what's the matter? if it's not about them, but nevertheless around them, this is dancing already. how long does it take, i will say, what 's the matter as long as we in russia think about how we are perceived in western europe and in the united states, as long as this is a measure. uh, our activities until then we will fight in white gloves. this is because , when patience in karamaha ran out, we they gasped with traumatic weapons and didn’t give a damn about anyone , but here the center of europe is the center of europe, such ukrainians are such ukrainians. you see , they will talk to you a little and finally it came out that we are completely in vain endlessly returning to what is happening on the screen saver so that in ukraine they are interested in endlessly talking about what is happening there, what is being held there, what do we forget? yes, in my opinion, of course, we are forced to

retrograde any informational message, but it seems to me that they are doing it your work and it must be completed. now, if we keep coming back to this, we're just basically playing along, you know, discussing it all the time. no matter how you call the people who are there in the catacombs from the point of view of an ordinary person, they show courage in that they still do not give up. this is a fact that we have to acknowledge. they're drugged, they're motivated by their past crimes, that's it, maybe . by the way, like you, i don’t know the exact payroll and each biography of the one who sitting there. there are probably nazis there, but there are different ones, probably people, very possibly, so i want to say less, we need to talk about this topic now. this business must be completed. unfortunately , there is no other way out of this situation, because they do not refuse to give up. and

we cannot refuse to establish this control, that's all. okay, then from this point of view. see. i agree with your logic. but then i tell you, look, we will take any sector of the front, we will take it, we will take zaporozhye let's take the kharkiv region here, this grouping according to this logic. wow, by your logic. we have to say, well, you know, it's not worth talking about it at all, because somehow it happened. er, it's been three months now that they've been fighting back much harder than we expected, they 're fighting more courageously than we expected, let's be honest. they do not give up on the word at all and in general, and help them completely, apparently, not to the extent that we expected, and then we say, well let us, too, as it were, because we live along with these. that is, if we start talking about all this from this point of view. here you tell me, i want to say that first of all. we must, as it seems to me, tell the truth and be honest, first of all, with ourselves, because it is demanded of us,

living in russia, fighting at the front demand it of us, because unfortunately, listen often. something is not said there, something is not recognized. this irritates people a lot. you spoke at the beginning about the need for everyone to mobilize. i agree with this, but i understand that mobilization is taking place. she's happening. actually. our society is divided into many different segments in relation to this, but there are three large groups, the first group is people, as it is rightly said, patriotic and understanding that there is now no other way out but victory, their number is quite large, they are changing around president and so on there is a group of people who are against this and they are also mobilized. they say we must immediately. it to stop everything, a minority of them are already abroad and from there we are watered enough to listen to lazarev there or lazarev or nevzorov there, yes, yes, i'm talking about what they

say, i just know. i know what to say nevzorakh fought. i mobilized enough like this, if the ukrainians had not resisted, then the rockets would have been flying already in dreamy paris and so on. he is already before him, that is, you still listen to him. i just read it, i don't listen to it. i read it. i get it, uh, but it's definitely a lie. this is him. i consider him a renegade, and i moreover, if today he advocated this special military operation, for me it would be the reason that something is wrong with us here with this special military operation, if such a renegade as i have known him for many years, how nevzorov stands for it. look at me, just a clear discussion of the nevzorov group - this is the same group that, as you said, wants to forget about what is happening, this does not concern us, something is happening there. and we live here on the edge or there not on the edge and