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probably, also water, there was no ethnic network water there, it was the wires that we directly collected, it turns out to be very banning on bumbi. here, well, there was food, but the attitude to uh directly from the military, and the military uh did not offend returned. tried not to repeat came asked. how many people in your country were interested in the military, but directly asked how many children of a military man. they brought candy class, and brought water. well, somehow that
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is, and then the question arises were you there 2 months, because you were kept there or because you yourself, for some reason, did not want to leave there. initially, we wanted to go out, because we would divide by the first assets. uh, when, uh, we tried to get out, the air-raid shelter was already running out, food and water were running out. that's why we planned to go out ourselves. we were returning. uh, it turns out back to the shelter they were talking about the fact that the city is now shelling directly fighting. if you're driving through the gate now, you haven't found it far.
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therefore, the understanding of, let's say, a 100% guarantee, but it was not that our series was brought out a -a safe, so no one went out. and on may 6, when you say that you went out along the humanitarian corridor, how was it presented to you, what did the people of azov tell you, how did they explain why it was impossible before, yes, and now it has become possible. where are you going, what is going on and so on? how was it presented to you, please. so, 4 by 5 at night, we heard on the radio that a green corridor would be unilaterally produced from russia, in order to to reach out to civilians. well, i understand that the fifth did not happen. and lyokha shot all day , and putin had the sixth. from the morning on the
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moon there we heard that it was still quiet and not a single shot, not a single shelling, not a single one. let's put it this way, so, well, we were already wondering what happened, we contacted the military, we were told you have 15 minutes to pack today, maybe tomorrow or today tomorrow we will plan. so we got together early in the morning. gathered things and were directly readiness to be taken out in groups of 10-15 people. but thank god you are
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great no matter what. but what is your question one way or another, judging by what you said more than once or twice, you interacted with the military. what do you call them with the azov people? probably, i don’t know who else is there , but in your opinion and impressions according to your feelings. what is the point of them being there? well, that is, what mood are these people in, what are they in, why are they not going out, what are they going to do next, how long are they going to be there and why? they well , we tried, no matter how hard we did not communicate with the military, we were interested, as peaceful only one question to quickly get to a safe place, yes, and seven. what, let's say, is pursuing the military,
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who are now there, as they explained to us, they are cleaning it up, and you don't want sergei, you said, i find it difficult to tell you about it. you don't want to talk about it because you're still afraid of something or because you really don't know, but on the other hand, you said that they brought food, chocolates and so on and so forth. that is, after all, i don’t really understand the nature of your relationship with them, whether it’s the military, or it’s the people who were kept there, or you communicated with them, or you didn’t communicate with them. we still want to understand who they are next to whom you somehow spent, well, almost two not the easiest months, knowing that they largely depend on them in your life and life in your family. you probably have some impressions about these people, and so on. if you don't want to talk about it, then that you are afraid, it is your right, but i understand it all.
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no, i'm not afraid of it. i can’t say that we had some kind of strained relationship with them . the most important thing for me is that i saw my family. that's the most important thing for me. i'm understood, thank you. thank you, sergei a-a. thank you for this story. well , as a matter of fact, you and i heard what we heard ah. according to my feelings, sergey does not really want to talk about a lot of what was there. or maybe my impression is misleading. come on, we'll let you down now. uh, let's see the ad and then with you discuss. well, unlike sergei and his family. well , fortunately, we cannot imagine what we experienced . these people who were there for 2 months worried about their loved ones did not know what it would all be like. ah, but unlike them, we have not experienced it , we have already too. in general, we have been following this phenomenon
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for quite some time. but what is happening inside azovstal, how we discuss it, and so on, and it seems to me that this has become some kind of important story for us. in general, no longer military, but continuing to exist for all of us let's advertising and then we will discuss it, because attention, everyone is following this, it says that there is something in this, do not switch. if you want to arrange a meeting with me again, do not come. to ride now is not the time to sort things out. so relax , breathe deep, and you're new, i'm a new psychologist here.
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defense of the russian federation , which says that today as a result of negotiations. uh, there were evacuees from there. well, the wrong word was evacuated, but they were withdrawn and delivered to places of medical care are injured, that is, in fact. these people are now in captivity. that is, you can find different, as it were, forms, but in essence. it is called so that these people are in order to provide them with medical care. in general, they agreed to be taken prisoner. and this, by the way, to surrender. this, by the way, is also a very interesting story, because i follow how people, uh, watch what is happening around kazakhstan every word. every nuance. this is very understandable, in fact all that we know. it `s that, how it is regularly handled with all sorts of ammunition and, uh, everyone says, let's go, and then we see, uh, some calm, some truce modes of silence, in which everyone starts to look very carefully and behind every word,
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look. and what happens where they delivered where they did not deliver? how many people and so on and so forth and it seems to me that this is not even just one. uh, informational, but the phenomenon uh, and these are even several informational phenomena steel around this azov, because this is something that lives separate in his life in the world information space in the ukrainian information space in our information space and different people and different forces due to this. here is something like some questions to solve. well, because look after all. it's just already absolute sur all these endless appeals of them already. i even lost count. whom did they contact ? i remember in the western leader they turned to the pope, they turned to means to elon mask , they turned to gray hair, in my opinion, they turned, a the pope really accepted. e, these same wives, e, azov. despite the fact that i don’t know, the pope knows or doesn’t know that in his free time from
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visiting, it means, uh, the time of the supreme pontiff, these ladies who are here, that means with sour faces. with downcast eyes, she tells him something. they are so quite cheerful. they zigue. but there is e yes, as they say, the internet he remembers, uh, everything. that is, in principle, well, in general, he cannot help but understand or he should have been told who they are, who is inside this very azov began, because the congressmen said about it 2 years ago, but nevertheless, around this , something continues to well up and some continue. yes, zakhar is just looking at it. here is one of these ladies, who are just like that, right here, she is such an unfortunate little goat of things that force you. smile at the death of russian soldiers, see point one and this little sheep. uh, it means that the pope of rome is receiving, and this is also some kind of grandiose, uh, performance, and which for some reason happens, to which they play along. it
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seems to me that some western leaders, and so on, are already without their will. in general, we need to understand. what is this zakhar here, looking at this, i don’t know, whatever from the political dramaturgy theatrical point of view? what are we talking about, about the phenomenon. azov steel, and of course, this is a translation. e military events are not even in the political sphere. and not even in the informational, but somehow he told him the tragic theatrical, because due to the fact that well, let's honestly admit and on the most important strategic directions of donetsk and lugansk and certainly defeat haunt the ukrainian army. they can organize themselves. overcome solely due to informational support, and in this sense, they chose the most important most accurate moments in a dramatic way - these are people locked in mariupol because the dungeons there are scary. it's almost something like stephen king there are wounded civilians there. uh, these are the characters who are already recognized by sight.
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and at the same time. i am sure that people who sat at the factory in ru. where they were hollowed out in the same way as people found who had already hit two boilers in other directions. they are of course puzzled, because they also have wives. they are also in the cauldron, but no attention is paid to them, because dramaturgically it’s not well, it’s not necessary there can’t be five boilers at once, because if there are five boilers then zelensky is generally damn simple, because why did he do this everywhere? here. and where someone is sitting in the cellars, yes, yes, well, you need one you need one, you don’t need much, you need one wedding, foil ring shafts. it's like wives there, uh, risk dad can't date all of you and we see it, and it's actually extremely cynical. well, it’s actually, it’s a mean thing on the part of kiev, they just act meanly towards everyone else who is in exactly the same situation, here we are, even with you, to be honest, we didn’t notice that we took mariupol for 2 months took 2 months. and it was exactly the same there, yes, but we did not hide anything there. and they are on their own sick on their wounds on their corpses
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suit themselves. this is super pr. well , a disgrace for them, in fact, here the euro is separated by a comma. and here this azov has become, as if these are things of the same order. in zelensky’s head, these are things of the same order, this must be understood, because this is what they can, as it were, fight with. here they are fighting like this eurovision azov steel, then, accordingly, the question arises. but we are well aware that in the military sense, everything that happens around azov has become of no importance. does not have. well, just zero. well, except for some already, in my opinion, already stopped talking about some kind of breakthrough and blockade, and so on and so forth. and what do they do? well, it seems to me that one can argue with this, but, for example, i agree with what zakhar says . we can just finish it together. well, roughly speaking, any. yes, ammunition and
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so on. here in this sense, what is it for us, because people are watching this, i noticed . it’s just that everyone stood up, and everything , as if they had gone there. many accuse us that you are the press and you are, as it were, this is it, you are inflating it. for me. this question is not very clear, to inflate not to inflate. maybe you really don’t notice, but on the other hand, our guys are fighting there, there are dad guys, there are periodically attempts, breakthroughs and so on. yes, okay, well, if we ignore the plot, the pope, rimsky and his wife. the swastika is worn so in this case, of course, we also have the task, first of all, in this, er, doomed position for them, to discord them completely. why because they are going to die heroic dying? well, you don't die. you're sitting here, you're trading here. yeah. first , you promised a little bit to release the civilians, then suddenly you started demanding a sacrifice for the civilians
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. then they showed everything. our wounded are bad for us, as soon as the wounded began to die, and for the last two days it has been there have already been several reports that zahisniks have begun to die at the plant. we have to turn in the wounded right there , because no one wants to die. and now we know them, we are throwing them out approximately already, as you know, such as a pike, which is already a little tired, and we still need to pull it out to destroy them, we do it with our heads . but not fishermen in the form of me do not remember anything that you said. here we are, i look at zakharov, i think, maybe, well, i'm not with them . and, when she is completely tired, like this, a log, she can calmly pull up and just take it with her hand, because nothing is eternal, strength is not eternal, so for them in this case, now it’s already clear that the exits. no, you know, you want to live, but you have to somehow correct yourself not to sell. so everyone was approached by a dream such that they were met on the spot, someone,
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so to speak, with a red cross, and where? exported. i thought that the next dream would be that at least someone with a red cross would meet them and provide them with a path to captivity, but it’s already honorable that we surrendered to the red cross, and already the russians are in front of us, yes, that is, we were handed over to the russians, because none of them wants to sigh and will not sigh. this has been clear for far too long. they are bargaining, you understand, that is the question now for us in this case, surrendered. azov is a terrible blow to the entire cult, you know, any sector, when the messiah did not come, decay begins, because they waited, but appointed, but he did not come. ah, cult. azov is a cult like that you know? white ss how was this not created? pasha azov, after all, throughout ukraine, mariupol capital. he was created there, he was there, uh, what is called e matured, but the azov people exist everywhere organization. azov and then all of a sudden, these best, most selective ones, you need to understand that we really are dealing, not just everything. azov is the selective guard of the nazi, in which they trained for 8 years,
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which had the best weapons. which was exemplary, where it was extremely difficult to get to serve. that is, this is a whole set. and suddenly, if this guard is in russian captivity with all its swastikas with all its attributes with all with their show-offs, then the question will arise guys a. how is a feat a feat? where do you understand? therefore, for us, i will tell you, again talking to the military. eh, the same. okay, or they'll all die there. so, either we will simply take them out and drag them further, there will be judges of someone, if they are tried in the dpr, they can lean them against the wall for crimes, because they have not abolished the death penalty. and someone may be sent to dismantle the rubble, who is simpler? yes. here. strictly speaking, the whole logic, in fact. here sometimes you benefit from your own work. so i ask, asking questions on the air you get really some explanations to me vlad now and to me and to very many who ask this question quite often. let's say what we're doing with them , really. this is a very important point. i
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want to emphasize it again. i understood him, we have been messing with them for so long, and in general, it seems sometimes too detailed, somehow, because as a result of this. uh, like, here we are really think about it. we indeed, in a month and a half they completely translated the idea of ​​\u200b\ u200bwhat azov is. let's be honest, at the beginning of the war there was an idea that it was some kind of really something like that of the elite ss guards and so on. now on may 16, we are discussing this as pathetic rotting survivalists, that is, absolutely pathetic people, but in a political sense, this is probably true, but the question is what's next? artyom, in fact, i still think the question is, it’s the same as these events that began today from the point of view of surrender prisoners. this is also a certain radical change in the defense. azov became in fact, they surrendered.
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you will remember the rhetoric, and these guys a month and a half or two ago, a statement that they will fight to the last, no one will surrender in a blanket, the wounded will all be to the last, along with the fighters on the front line, support them there , bring uh, bk and so on and so forth, and now we see, in fact, that all those myths that were created about these myths were very many, but dispelled fakes. e for the attraction of all special military operation is another fake. e got smaller. and that there really are some special forces there that are ready to go out there to the end. and now we have already risen before the surrender. this will greatly affect other units of the armed forces, located at a different point, because they are treated completely differently. already somehow all this lives some kind of life of its own, understanding
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information while being. e, what zakhar spoke about at the beginning, and at other points e on the territory of the lc. this is especially an indicator of how they will sprinkle now, and i will continue to say more. i literally called up the guys before the broadcast over the past three or four days. just a huge success. according to the work of our artists, the number of two hundredths. uh, on the territory of the country, the national battalions have simply increased significantly over the past 3-4 days. yeah, but ours worked effectively in the boundary and in other territories. and now i believe that in continuation this story just gives us the opportunity to move on, including in the information company, about moving on to information companies, by the way. dele is also very good. uh, an interesting position, which is exactly the same, uh, it’s difficult, slowly and with effort, fortified areas are dealt with. in the same way, the myth about
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azov and these two these two tracks that run in parallel are disassembled. actually. this is very, very important, as it were, because today's ukraine we have talked about this many times, such a largely invented fake state that it is possible to parse these fakes. and these notions are no less, and perhaps more important than dismantling and destroying all these fortified areas. but when you say, uh, about a radical change, about the fact that we are moving forward. yes, we are moving forward. yes, we moved 5 km away from the dangerous one, we took a lot, guys, they work there and let them work perfectly. although everything, it's not easy, but about the fracture. here i have a question about a fracture in movement, where from the point of view of the entire operation. here are no specific ones some fighting. well, i give an example from civilian life. i'm not saying that he generalizes everything. well, for example, they write to me in telegram, a woman from genetics, this is the kherson
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region, wrote to me, yes, who writes to me that, ah, the third month, how is the presence of russia there, she, and she, judging by her tone letters. she ends it with words. it's just not the whole text in words, work brothers. we were waiting for you. that is, she, as it were, waited and waited for russia, and she writes that somehow the presence of a russian authorities. she doesn't really notice. and this is the third month. and so, reaching fractures in very difficult ways. at the front, in very difficult ways, and everywhere we are also intensively and systematically advancing in the turn of the civil. life is here, yes, literally before the holidays, together with andrey turchuk , the head of the dpr traveled together with denis pushilin from donetsk through mariupol and in melitopol we drove through the new kakhovka and spent the whole day working in kherson met with the administration
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that was formed there and there step step by step this work is being built. yeah, administrative, both in central districts and in small villages, of course, you can’t take everything to build on this. e, there for a day for two or three it all takes time and now i can say that there is a clear understanding. oh how will it be built? and most importantly, people were waiting, uh, and asking questions to us both in zaporozhye and in the kherson region. what's next? oh what? look, when you say it takes time to line up i agree, nothing is fast enough for you time is needed, but time is needed depending on what we are building, we are building the russian federation here on this territory, some russian province, or we are building some kind of separate state entity on this territory, or we are just building something, but then we will decide how we will call it the pace and depth of penetration depends in
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many ways. can i quote the pod, which said the meeting with the residents, that, and russia is here forever talking about kherson about how it will be built in the future. and that territory. it also depends, among other things, on the pace of liberation e of certain neighboring regions, and the pace, uh, of the country’s military operations themselves and our armed forces, but i’m sure i communicate with people who will never return to this pseudo-state ukraine is 100% and their desire of their desire to become one of the constituent entities of the russian federation, you know what's the matter with the dpr lpr for eight years had a desire to become one of the constituent entities of the russian federation. but everything changed from my desires. i'm talking about your understanding. uh, so to speak, a young and promising russian politician. what, in general, is, yes, an understanding of whether you and the people you work with have a
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clear understanding of what we are going to do? they are? it is clear that they want to go to russia, many have been waiting, and so on, if russia is here forever, they should have landed there, that united russia is simple and that's it. and how would the united russia party be, and in this matter there is none. listen, that's where our party colleagues are located, who, in cherry mode, deliver from our own humanitization center with me. don't argue, i i go there, and i go there. we work there. we are working all right. i'm not as a present. i say for sure it would be that ivan petrovich ivan sidorovich and solomon moiseevich arrived. contact him, of course, that’s exactly what artyom is, and i say that there are people on the spot who are responsible. the universes of territories that artyom is authorized to work there, and in the near future, our gum center will open separately , a large one, which will not only deal with, uh, help some uh, unprotected population or uh, to deliver humanitarian aid, oh, which will, among other things, organize this work on the territory of an administrative political important point a very important point. when you say that we will open
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a center there that will, uh, deliver humanitarian aid. this is very important, and i really and you and i, well, we crossed paths when we were there, it really is. very important. i really saw with my own eyes a volunteer company there. and, well, that is, the guys really work very hard doing. but you understand that it is very important and necessary work. but this is such a regime, as if force majeure and maintenance, but life. yes, but this woman, for example, who wrote me one of the examples that they have the arbat arrow there on this arbat arrow. they have some plots on these plots there. eh, they don't understand now. what to do with these areas? how is all this, that is, ensuring not force majeure, but ensuring the activities of state bodies. they say that this will work, among other things , in order to help form administrative units, including with the participation of volunteers and volunteers from the russian federation, the topic that we started talking about at the beginning. well
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, here's your part. after all, any government is, in addition to humanitarian centers, a humanitarian.

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