this element in turkish politics is also now directly your question. why are they stuffed into nato? i think that initially the idea of ​​stuffing them into nato is, you know, so conditionally vegetarian. and i think that this is a political message, originally a political message. what kind of russia is saying that it is disrupting ukraine's entry into nato, that it will not allow it, that this is a red line, so, look, we are expanding it anyway. they can't do anything about it . here are two countries. uh, demonstrative growling breaking russian red lines. emphasized. i think that this is arrogance. eh, this is such a political task - it is present, but i think it is precisely because, in principle, er, this is a political task, the elites of sweden and finland agreed so easily. although i stressed the people they chose not to ask. both there and there were very

harsh statements that a referendum is by no means a referendum on this issue, but i think that they are being deceived, because they definitely follow this political task. uh, the other is expanding the military infrastructure there and turning them into another one. ah, one more front. i think that in the end, if that's all, so to speak, e with a little bit to simplify the united states makes it easier for their most loyal geopolitical allies in europe right now, primarily for poland, at the expense of the rich, e-e, sweden and finland and when you said , what is there, who made the decision for whom? i would clarify a little. it may well be that shvets consulted with the swedish and finnish elites and that for them make a statement. even though they haven't formally

applied yet. this may be normal, already there is an agreement with them. that's exactly in relation to whom they act absolutely disrespectfully. these are the peoples of these countries, of course, and the polls are one thing. everyone says that in the course of the current events in ukraine, in finland, in sweden, the number of supporters of entry has increased. e in nato well, what has grown today, tomorrow it will fall, maybe it will be minimal in a year, but this is not an argument that people express their opinion. it's not too the thing is that people make decisions, so polls don't equal e don't equal a referendum at all. that's in relation to whom they acted absolutely hypocritically and disrespectfully. these are the peoples of these u these countries. it seems to me that there is one more, uh, factor that i would like to ask alexander vyacheslavovich about. so, uh, it seems to me that this is

still an attempt by the united states to strengthen its hegemony in europe at the expense of the european union , yes, that's right, two actually two tasks. uh, on the one hand do so to collect europeans into a single fist and so that there would no longer be anyone who is not under e, control over and structure i of the atlanteans, and the second aspect told us. e not so long ago, regarding er, sengteng er, the red corporation think tank in such a large report, a whole series of reports , russia's overvoltage needs to be strengthened, and there were there, everything was there, there was ukraine and events in belarus in the caucasus and central asia, so nato expansion and nato expansion which will now be in contact with russia, uh, for almost kilometer border. this is just to force russia to spend on security, to deliver russia more and more to invest. money safe

in arms takes away funds in the economy. they do not understand one and one nuance. in fact , what our defense industry is doing is raising gdp yes, because, as i say correctly about sergeyevich shoigu, and the funds that the ministry of defense receives receive growth, and our military-industrial complex they work for the economy, because it is e company. uh, high tech, really. the machine is a structure that involves the entire complex of industries that exists in our country. this is an imitation of urgia. this is a petrochemical connection. e, and. uh, here's the rest of the tech workers getting paid. accordingly, it is also a social infrastructure. this school goes gardens. there are universities , shops, and so on, and one workplace in the defense of the industrial complex creates up to thirty jobs in all the rest. and the more we really invest, the more. well, hao the more so. more than that

we can transfer the real economy. here are the same dual-use technologies. eh, so, in principle, they will strengthen us. i think that they are trying to master us in one word. and as for the same expansion, in our world only the laws of physics are observed by everyone. and let's remember the second rule of thermodynamics : infinite expansion leads to thermal death. yes, that is, the endless expansion of nato means spending funds further, despite the fact that such serious bells are already ringing the tocsins of the global financial crisis, until now this fall of the american market fund, which has already erased eight trillion dollars of value. eh, now the fall is already beginning on the periphery, yes, that's all. and they don't have enough money to do it all . it's just, well, but about the fact that the united states is implementing a strategy really aimed at trying to deplete russia and strengthen it, we will talk about our global one right away. here after a small

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he said, including vladimir putin, listen to the north atlantic alliance and go beyond their geographical destination beyond. euro-atlantic is trying harder and harder get involved in international affairs. e and control. uh, international security situations affect them and not in the best way in other regions of the world. this certainly requires additional attention on our part. really. we have already talked about what ended yesterday in berlin. uh, the nato ministerial has ended, which is the last one. and the upcoming nato summit in june at the end of june, and uh, at this ministerial meeting, there were, by and large, three main issues on the agenda. and this a new strategic concept for nato to be adopted at the berlin summit. b. it should declare the new nature of nato in a

global confrontation. and this expansion is possible, likely to finland, sweden. and this is the help of ukraine, and so it is about the new strategic concept and about the new updated nature. nato a, a very bright once again declared. e. yesterday, e in berlin , the main herald of the collective west of late is rhinestone, i will quote. she said she didn't it's important that we focus on global nato yes, once again the thesis of a global nato is being scattered around defending euro-atlantic security. we also need to pay attention. danger in the indian pacific region ivan vasilyevich it seems to me that when nato talks about its global nature and the need to intensify its participation in the asia-pacific region, then in fact we are dealing not only with aspirations. well, how to consolidate european

and asian. allies of the united states against russia and china and we are dealing with an attempt to replace the international order based on the un with an international order based on nato, remember , uh, somewhere in the nineties in the 2000s, there was a term for the onization of nato, yes, that is, the replacement of the main global regulatory organization with nato on those structures that are subordinate, and the united states. and today, probably, it's time to talk about the organization of the united nato, yes. what do you think about this ? indeed, the theme of nato's globalization is that nato goes beyond its geographic boundaries, which are spelled out in the washington treaty. and this is a very old topic and in 2000. they talked about it, then somehow in 2010 the topic faded a little , but in 2000 they talked a lot about the fact that nato

should be able to conduct operations outside. uh, outside of europe, and let's say, uh, the company in uh, afghanistan was seen as this or an element of nato becoming global, and indeed. uh, some experts believe that now nato is back again. this is returning to this. as you said in trying to keep uh, global hegemony, and i think that this point of view has the right to exist, but also has the right to exist a little another point of view. and so i stick with it that the united states they say they're fighting. they are their ally. they say that they continue to fight for world leadership, in reality they already understand that they cannot keep it, so they attract to themselves. here are these, uh, the most dependent of those who are not ready for an independent life in a multipolar world, but the question is if everything is going on in the world, then

say, er the decisive stage, the ideological decolonization. eh, how then to explain that someone, on the contrary, goes in the opposite direction and there is an ideological river, the colonization of a number of countries, in my opinion. this can only be explained by an argument that is present in our immortal immortal work. eh, foreign will help you. that is, he is these europeans. as for the american satellites, as we already do. we are actually now officially saying, in russia they are trying to tell them that this is no way you are the vanguard of the struggle for, uh, global leadership, but in fact deed they are, the final. uh, the final link in the very shortened american food chain, what is

geopolitical what to do economic, but no one wants to be the last in this chain, so they. and in fact they lie that in fact, you are not the last, there will be more following ones and this little collective of their own, which remains americans, it is very important for them to maintain cohesion in this collective not to allow any strife, and so on and so forth, therefore here they are this collective, that their e asian grouping. uh, that means your european grouping. here they are trying to somehow bring it together , bring it together, but in fact, it's not that they expand to the whole world, they are the most isolated from the world, they expand to the whole world, but they split this world. yes they produce global global demarcations. they are building and strengthening their blocs, as well as in the field of security and in the field of economics and in the field of information. yes, and

thereby marginalize and weaken some global universal structures, including organization. but not only not only here are the same processes of delimitation and weakening of some inclusive structures, and of replacing them with some kind of exclusive structures, we observe in the policy of the united states, including in the field of economy, for example, and the japanese newspaper nike announced today that the united states japan canada south korea taiwan attention, taiwan yes as a separate entity the philippines and singapore are establishing a new data exchange structure that will be closed to russia and china and this structure are trying, they will try to impose it, including atc asia-pacific and economic cooperation, which is the most inclusive structure of international economic and

political cooperation in the asia-pacific region vasily georgievich comment. well, the united states is trying to come back. in a new form to his draft trans-ocean free trade agreement, only not to make it not just a trade agreement with privileges for american corporations, but try to go from the military-political side. and, in fact, washington is here entering the fight with china once again on another front. at the front, this organization is already counting on what he can do in the new conditions. still, these countries are attracted to attract them and the reasoning about security to attract, perhaps to the local elite, but the problem is that at the time when the agreement was created from the trans -pacific free trade. this is an agreement that was negotiated in parallel with the european union transplastic agreement free trade, and obama was making a stunning statement about the state of the american economy and the

statistics showed that, in general, this state is in line with statements that he said that we have never had so many new jobs, that our companies are on the rise, that we have the crisis that we experienced in 2008-9, it is behind everything, everything is over, no problems in the future. don’t even ask what will happen in 2020. yes, everything is fine, so we are creating a new design for the global economy, in in which the united states in which in the center and they have such two halves of the ring of power the european ring well, in fact, uh, the transatlantic one, which merkel actually blocked and the pacific ring, which assumes that all the countries that are here, except for china and it was said that these that the new rules of international trade should write, the united states the united states without china so all these countries they will get the opportunity to work with the resurgent american market,

which maintains both stability and prospects for growth, and, accordingly, these countries should give american companies a privileged status . that is, if at the moment when obama was advertising the american dream and the american project of rapprochement with the countries of southeast asia, he could really present a beautiful showcase. now the window looks terrible. if well, say no more, she very, very bad. all countries understand that the united states is generating global inflation , everyone understands that uh, the jobs created by the bailout are very bad and uh, fragmentary in court, what americans joke about, what uh does anyone say, there i take from those jobs created. i take three. yes, that is, these jobs are so small and bad and it's clear. that uh, the financial market is very

unhealthy, that it is impossible to raise the rate to fight inflation. this is generally a symbol. uh, well, regulatory financial helplessness. if not to say, there is impotence, even because the rate needs to be 10% of the federal reserve, and they cannot reach 2%, even they have a two-year acceleration period to 2% there, that is, they are trying to introduce a psychic attack on inflation, convincing everyone you see. we are still able to raise the key rate. we will gradually raise it and stubbornly raise it, but we cannot raise it, we simply cannot succeed, because there will be a default, because if the rate is 10%, then the us will have to pay three trillion as interest payments on well on $33 million of debt. it's impossible. this is twice as much as federal budget revenues. naturally, the united states cannot be borrowed, respectively, no normal rate is possible, and therefore it turns out that the united states will generate globa inflation, but not global growth, therefore, what

should be done? um, all the countries in southeast asia , well, you need to keep your distance from the united states, because if you get too close to them and if you cooperate with them, then you will get a sip from them not of economic growth, but of inflation. but the growth of the economy is to be sought in a bloc with other state-owned companies in this region. naturally, with china, which, of course, is also having difficulties now, but which are obvious. e, maybe e can grow and develop with the support and on the continental eurasian countries of cooperation with russia and cooperation with these countries. he can go ahead and he can pull them along, especially since china, in general, has shown twice recently that it is the new locomotive world economy. first time. this happens at the beginning of the sixteenth year, when chinese imports come first. according to statistics, it seems to be very, very down, and the markets continue to fall, and then china increases imports and pulls out markets. this here is this miracle of the sixteenth year, and then this in the twentieth year. here, too, the chinese contribution is very significant after the overproduction of the nineteenth

early twentieth year of the lightly covered pandemic situation and it is clear that the united states does not do this, that they no longer manage global economic growth. this firm is only responsible for inflation. here is the overgrown prices, respectively. well, how to say? well, well, inflation is inflation, you need to adapt to it, but you won’t get anything here. it is clear that the united states can not resurrect the transtech and ocean partnership project that it has been trying to implement. and barack obama also because the united states continues to pursue a significant degree of mercantilist and even protectionist foreign economic policy and the creation of an economic communities around the united states on one side. and as president biden said. ah, middle-class politics on the other hand are incompatible goals, so the biden administration proper. she is trying to create some kind of surrogates, but she is not succeeding and an illustration of this, and what you were talking about

was, uh, the us summit of the axes, which ended at the end of last week in the united states failed to force uh the countries of the south -east asia to join the american there is not a single mention of russia in the final statement of the final declaration of the us summit session for the bloc against russia and against china, but nevertheless. here is another important illustration of the desire of the united states to strengthen. e mine. well, let it not be hegemony, yes, let it be hegemony within the half world. let's just say half-measures and and another example of nato's desire to globalize or , let's say, expand, and its sphere of responsibility of its influence outside of alya is how nato approaches and will, judging by everything should be approached in the new strategic concepts to the task of containing russia, firstly, we already know that russia is declared in the new strategic concept as a direct threat. secondly, what

seems to me very disturbing and surprising is that, apparently, nato is going to enshrine in this new strategic concept the provision of the need to help russia's neighbors, regardless of whether they are members of nato or not, and in in the event of a russian attack, the use of military force in in relation to these countries, that is, nato is going to take responsibility for countries both nato members and non-nato members, bloomberg said this with reference to officials . uh, tony blinkin the united states secretary of state. and who is unexpected. recovered from covid took part in the summit e not at the summit, but at the meeting ministry, and nato in berlin, by the way, the question arises. and where is blinkin's furious performance in china, yes, which he promised and which somehow disappeared.

yes, in china, the blinken is silent, but in russia and of the new nato strategic concept, blinkin says that nato will fix the defeat of the provision on the need to deter any aggression against russia precisely any yes, that is, regardless of nato or e. for any other country. igor yurievich is, but, how would such a psychological or mental offensive? or is it a dangerous game? because if that's true, then what they're going to, uh, proclaim in a new strategic concept. yes, if this is not psychological pressure on russia in the current circumstances, it's actually very much like that. it seems to me a dangerous question. i don't think it's psychological pressure that's prepared. indeed, the fact that the alliance will expand its zone of operations, or a proxy warrior outside the traditional area of ​​​​responsibility, this is called , among other things, an expanded interpretation of article 5 of the

washington treaty, but in practice this will mean that nato but first of all, the united states, great britain, possibly a number of others states will provoke instability conflicts in zone of traditional russian interests. this is the post-soviet space. that is, on the one hand. they will provoke. there instability, on the other hand, relying on a new strategic concept will interfere with these events. in an effort to limit, support russia's influence. perhaps those scenarios for the development of the military-political situation in the post-soviet space that will mean a blow to russian national interests, so i think this is a completely sensible and pragmatic policy. and there is a question. how in that including and possibly in those changes that are necessary for the russian military doctrine, we will respond to these new conceptual provisions in the strategic concept of nato, this

work must begin now under the auspices. i think the security councils of the russian federation should create an interdepartmental commission with the involvement of the law enforcement agencies of the intelligence of the ministry of foreign affairs and other russian interests, which in one way or another will participate in the development of proposals. how should we respond to this and on the one hand, on the other hand, it is obvious that this is a broad interpretation of obligations. nato includes, among other things, containment of china for itself and, first of all, the connection to this global security system of america's traditional satellites in the asia-pacific region. in total, of course, japan, south korea , singapore, and the involvement of a number of other countries, for example, philippines where a new president came to power. in any case it is also. requires the need to strengthen strategic consultations

and develop common approaches between moscow and beijing. i think it is necessary now very seriously to invite our chinese partners to comprehend this new threat, because in addition to, let's say, the export of inflation, the united states of america will export instability primarily in the pacific region solving the problem of containing china, they will primarily solve the problem of their own economic well-being and dominance. and here we must reconsider these are our previous approaches. how can russia respond to hostility to unfriendly policy, for example, seoul, if symmetrical measures, probably, still need to be reviewed and the complex of our relations with the democratic people's republic of korea. in any case, do not participate in any further sanctions measures of pressure, and perhaps abandon the previous approaches.