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sergey, we are discussing this very fake news that the family will have to be fed exclusively with chicken ridges. as regards, for example, the markets of moscow. and the supply of russian regions in general. are there any changes? is there a shortage of some products? you know, in fact, russia in terms of food security. it can only be shaken a little by the rush demand, at the end of february at the beginning of march there was a rush demand, so holes appeared on the shelves a little, as soon as the rush of demand subsided the supply chain the availability of goods was adjusted and returned, let's say, to retail outlets in warehouses. and now everything is very good food security. once again i will say the presence of goods, it is, and it will be, and this is reassuring. in general, salt, buckwheat, sugar, it's all right. came back in on the store shelf and even the sausage. it is perfectly. thank you for this good news. all the very best to you. uh. i think that for today everything is great for you. thank you for coming to us. it was a pleasure to have these conversations with you. great we are leading with you
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may 16, as a result of negotiations with representatives of ukrainian military personnel blocked on the territory of the azovstal metallurgical plant in mariupol, an agreement was reached on the export of at present, a silence regime has been introduced in the area of ​​​​the enterprise and a humanitarian corridor has been opened through which the wounded ukrainian servicemen are delivered to a medical facility in novoazovsk. donetsk people's republic to provide all necessary assistance in fact. eh, i repeat. this is a very important and interesting topic, and it is becoming more and more interesting to me , like how we follow what is happening around azov steel and try to understand what is inside, and we will definitely talk about it, but now to the question of what is inside we now have the opportunity with you. well, as is customary on tv to say an exclusive opportunity. we will now talk with you with a person who was inside there until may 6, and who was released from there, and he is a peaceful resident of the city of mariupol
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who was released from there on may 6. and i call him sergey, now we will go out with him. but you see sergei on the screen. hello sergey how can you hear us? let's start here. please tell us how and why you ended up in azovstal. and what did you do before and at the moment when you got there, and why did you get there, please? i got along with my family, and the third of march. but he came to the shelter in order, let 's say, to get away from the skirmishes that took place directly in the city. so i knew that at that time, until march 3, we were running out of water and food. i knew she was in the shelter. and therefore there
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led to the fact that soon it will all stop. we spent in a bomb shelter. already two months and on may 6 we were allocated by the plant and already red cross and he saw us directly already on the territory. mariupol plant sergey and you said that on march 3 you were there because you knew that there was a bomb shelter there. uh, food is water. and how did you imagine so well that there is a shelter? what is not there? how did you know him? and i was at that moment. i worked as an older
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madrid painter in the east. i was responsible for uh bomb shelter directly. the protective structure in which they gave us therefore in 2014 was planted there, which directly stored. oh, that's why i knew there was water there, and yes, that's why we took it there, yes. please tell me this is a very interesting moment. you said that since 2014 you have been imported there, and food and water, which were written off after the expiration date, and when this delivery took place, how was it explained, how did you settle? why should this stockpile be constantly in this bomb shelter and constantly updated?
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please tell me, here you are, uh, on march 3, you came there, knowing that there is, uh, food and water in order to to hide, uh, from shelling, they spent 2 months there, uh. tell us how, uh, how this life was arranged inside, how, since the peoples you lived there, what were the most important people there, and what were your relationships with the military and with the same uh, azov people, that’s all, it’s very interesting to us, please. well, it means that there were no conditions for shelter. now, probably, there is also water, there is no ethnic water there. there was not much network water
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, it was the wire that we directly collected. it turns out that bombardinoism is necessary ban. well, well, there was food there, but the attitude was directly from the military, and the military, uh, did not offend in civilian life, they did not touch, but they how many people were you directly interested in the military, he asks the children, and the military. they brought him boasted sweets, and brought water. that is, and then the question arises: were you there for 2 months, because you were kept there, or
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because you yourself, for some reason, did not want to leave there. initially, we wanted to go out, because to divide by the first, when we tried to leave already the bomb shelter was already running out for us, the food was running out of water. that's why we planned to go out ourselves. we were returning. uh, it turns out back to the shelter they were talking about the fact that shelling is now in the city and there is direct hostilities. if you are driving through the gate now, you are far away. therefore, the understanding of, let's say, a 100% guarantee, but it was not that our series was brought out safely,
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so no one comes out. and on may 6, when you say that you went out along the humanitarian corridor, how was it presented to you, what were you told, uh, azov people, as they explained why it was impossible before, yes, but now it has become possible. where are you going, what is going on and so on? how was it presented to you, please. so, on the night of 4 to 5, we heard on the radio that it would be produced unilaterally by russia. uh, a green corridor, in order to reach civilians . well, as i understand it, the fifth did not happen, but it was easy to shoot all day, and putin had the sixth. in the morning we heard that it was still quiet and not a single shot, not a single
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shelling, not a single one. let's put it this way, so, well, we were already wondering what happened, we turned to the military, we were told you have 15 minutes to collect things today, maybe tomorrow or today or tomorrow we will plan. so we got together in the morning. we packed our things and were immediately ready for us to be taken out in groups of 10-15 people. but thank god that you were the sixth-class bombers. but what question are you anyway, judging by the fact
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that you said more than once or twice interacted with the military. what do you call them with the azov people? i probably don't know who else is there, but according to your impressions, according to your feelings. what is the point of them being there? well, that is, what is the mood of these people, what are they set for, why are they not going out, what are they going to do next, how long are they going to be there and why? they well, we tried, no matter how hard we did not communicate with the military, we were interested, as peaceful only one question to quickly get to a safe place, yes, and seven. what shall we say, the military, who are now there, is pursuing there, as they explained to us, they clean it up. and you
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don’t want sergey, you said, i find it difficult to tell you about this . you don't want to talk about it because you're still afraid of something or because you really don't know, but on the other hand, you said that they also brought food, chocolates and so on and so forth. that is, after all, i don’t really understand the nature of your relationship with them, whether it’s the military, or it’s the people who kept you there, or you communicated with them, or you didn’t communicate with them. we still want to understand who they are next to whom you somehow spent, well, almost two not the easiest months, knowing that they largely depend on them in your life and life in your family. you probably have some impressions about these people, and so on. if you don't want to talk about it because you're afraid, it's your right, but i understand it all. no, i'm not afraid of it. i can’t say that we had some kind of strained relationship with them
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. the most important thing for me is that i saw my family. that's the most important thing for me. i'm understood, thank you. thank you, sergei ah. thank you for this story. well , as a matter of fact, you and i heard what we heard ah. according to my feelings, sergey does not really want to talk about a lot of what was there. or maybe my impression is deceptive, but unlike them, we have not experienced it, we have already too. in general , we have been following this phenomenon for quite some time. but what is happening inside azovstal, how we discuss it, and so on, and it seems to me that this has become some kind of important story for us. in general, no longer military, well, continuing to exist for us all. it would be right to penetrate the affairs of germany
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through the far east, where it is quite possible to obtain information about the plans of our enemies. i'm ready in japan , we have only one ramsey agent, you are the best journalist of the reich in the east . i ask you not to destroy my life, he is completely forbidden. sorge on sunday at the first why was the captured resident revered by the japanese as a hero after the war? it will show we continue to work live
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again today's news, the events around azovstal. we've talked with a man who was there until may 6, but message of the ministry of defense of the russian federation, which says that today, as a result of negotiations, evacuees were evacuated from there . wrong word were withdrawn and taken to the point of medical care for the injured. that is, in essence. these people are now in captivity. that is, you can find different, as it were, forms, but in essence. it is called so that these people are in order to provide them with medical care. in general, they agreed to be taken prisoner. this is, among other things , to surrender. this, by the way, is also very an interesting story, because i follow how people watch what is happening around, i'm tired of every word. every nuance. you understand this very well, in fact, all we know is that. this is regularly handled with all kinds
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of ammunition and everyone says, let's go, and then we see, uh, some lulls, some truce modes of silence, in which everyone starts to look very carefully and you know behind every word. and what happens where they delivered where they did not deliver? how many people and so on and so forth and it seems to me that this is not even some one. uh, informational, but the phenomenon eh, and these are even several informational phenomena around this azov stood up, because it is something that lives separately in its life in the global information space in the ukrainian information space in our information space and different people and different forces thereby. here is something that solves some issues. well, because look after all. it's just already absolute sur all these endless appeals of them already. i even lost count. to whom applied? i remember that in the west, germans turned to the pope, they turned to means they turned to elon, the mask
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turned to a dolphin, in my opinion, they turned, and the pope really accepted. e, these same wives, e, azov. despite the fact that i don’t know, the pope knows or doesn’t know that in his free time from visiting, it means, uh, the time of the supreme pontiff, these ladies who are here, that means with sour faces. with downcast eyes, she tells him something. they are so quite cheerful. they zigue. but there is e yes, as they say, the internet he is remembers everything, here that is, in principle. well, in general, he cannot but understand or he should have been told who they are, who became inside this very azov, because the congressmen said about it 2 years ago, but nevertheless, something is going on around this turn around and continues some. yes, zakhar is just looking at it. here's one of these little ladies here, right there like that, she's such a miserable little goat of things that make her smile. and the death of russian soldiers, see point one and this one
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here is a sheep. uh, it means that the pope of rome is accepting, and this is also some kind of grandiose , uh, performance, and which for some reason happens, but which they play along with. it seems to me that some western leaders, and so on, are already without their will. in general, we need to understand. what is this zakhar here, looking at this, i don’t know, whatever from the political dramaturgy theatrical point of view? what are we dealing with when talking about the phenomenon. azov in steel, and of course, this is a translation of military events, not even into political sphere. and not even in the information. and here, as you said, traumatological theatrical, because due to the fact that well, let's now we recognize a in the most important strategic areas of donetsk luhansk and of course. uh, defeat is haunting the ukrainian army. they can organize themselves overcoming only at the expense of informational support in this sense, they have chosen
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dramatic ones, the most important most accurate moments are people locked in mariupol because the dungeons there are scary. it's almost something from stephen king, there are civilians wounded there, but these characters, who are already recognized by sight. and at the same time. i am sure that the people who were sitting at the factory in ru. where they were hollowed out in the same way as people found who had already hit two boilers in other directions. they are of course puzzled, because they also have wives. they are also in the cauldron, but no attention is paid to them, because dramaturgically, it’s, well, it’s not necessary, there can’t be five cauldrons at once, because if there are five cauldrons, then zelensky is generally damn simply, because why did he put it on everywhere, here, and where someone is sitting in the basements, yes, yes, well, you need one you need one, you don’t need much, you need one, there must be a wedding, a ring of foil shafts. there, it’s like the wives of the pope of rome can’t meet with everyone, and we see it, and this is actually extremely cynical, but this is actually, this is a mean thing on the part of kiev, they just act meanly towards everyone else who
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is exactly in we are in the same situation, we even ourselves, to be honest, did not notice that they took mariupol for 2 months ; and they, on their patients, on their wounds, on their corpses , arrange for themselves. this super pr well, a disgrace for them, in fact, here the euro is separated by a comma. and here this azov has become, as if these are things of the same order. in zelensky’s head, these are things of the same order, this must be understood, because this is what they can kind of fight with, this is how they fight eurovision azov steel, then, respectively the question arises. but we are well aware that in the military sense, everything that happens around the azov steel has no meaning. well , just zero. well, except for some already, in my opinion, already stopped talking about some kind of breakthrough there, deblockade, and so on and so forth. and what do they do? well, it seems to me that one can argue with this, but, for example, i agree with what zakhar says
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. we can just finish it together. well, roughly speaking , any. yes, ammunition and so on. in this sense, what is it for us, because the people are watching this, i paid attention. it’s just that everyone got up, and that’s how they will go there . many accuse us that you are the press and you are, as it were, this is it, you are inflating it. for me. this question is not very clear, to inflate not to inflate. maybe you really don’t notice, but on the other hand, our guys are fighting there , our guys are there, the pope of rome, there periodically, uh, attempts breakthrough and so on. come on, from the plot of the pope and his wife. the swastika is worn like this in this case, of course, we also have the task, first of all, in this, er, doomed position for them, to discord them completely. why because they
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are going to die heroic dying? well, you don't die. you are sitting, you are bargaining. aha first you mean a little promised to release the civilians, then suddenly began to demand a sacrifice for the civilians, when the whole world was indignant that the guys were still soldiers then you surrendered the civilians? then they everything was shown. our wounded are bad for us, as soon as the wounded began to die, and for the last 2 days there have been several reports that zahisniks began to die at the plant. we have to turn in the wounded right there , because no one wants to die. and now we know them, we are throwing them out approximately already, as you know, such as a pike, which is already a little tired, and we still need to pull it out to destroy them, we do it with our heads , but not ruba- not fishermen in the form of me remember nothing that you said, here we are, i look at zakhar, i think maybe, well, i'm not with them big buck but sometimes you need to tire a pike, you know, she rushes about furiously. and when she is completely tired, here is such a log, she can calmly pull it up and just take it with her hand, because nothing lasts forever, strength does not
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last forever. so for them in this case, it is now clear that there is no way out, you understand? i want to live, but i need to somehow correct myself not to sell. so everyone was approached by a dream such that they were met on the spot, someone, so to speak, with a red cross, and where? exported. i thought the next dream would be so that at least someone with a red cross would meet them and ensure their way into captivity, but it’s already honorable that we surrendered to the red cross, and already the russians are in front of us, that is, we were handed over to the russians, because none of them wants to sigh will not be. this has been clear for far too long. they are bargaining, you understand, that is the question now for us in this case, surrendered. azov is a terrible blow to the entire cult, you know, any sect, when the messiah did not come, decay begins, because they waited, but appointed, but he did not come. ah, cult. azov is a cult of such lights, you know, how they didn’t create it, because azov is its capital throughout ukraine. he was created there, he was there, uh, what is called e matured, but the azov people
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exist everywhere organization. azov and then all of a sudden, these best most selective ones must be understood that we really are dealing not just with - azov is the selective guard of the nazis, which was trained for 8 years, which had the best weapons. which was a model where to get to serve was extremely difficult. that is, this is a whole set and suddenly, if this guard turns out to be in russian captivity with all its matchmaking with all its attributes with all its show off, then the question will arise guys a. how is a feat a feat? where do you understand? therefore, for us, i will tell you, again talking to the military. eh, the same. okay, or they'll all die there. so, either we will simply take them out and drag them further, they will judge someone, if they judge the dpr, they can lean them against the wall for a crime, because they have not abolished the death penalty. and someone may be sent to dismantle the rubble, who is simpler? yes. here. strictly speaking, the whole logic, in fact.
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sometimes you can benefit from your own work as well. so i ask, asking questions on the air you get really some explanations to me vlad now and to me and to very many who ask this question quite often. let's say what we're doing with them , really. this is a very important point. i want to emphasize it again. i understood him, we have been messing around with them for so long, and in general, it seems, sometimes it ’s too detailed somehow, because in the result of this. uh, like, here we are really think about it. in a month and a half, we really completely translated the idea of ​​\u200b\u200bwhat azov is. let's be honest, at the beginning of the war there was an idea that it was some kind of really something like that, selected by the ss guards and so on. now on may 16th we are discussing this as pathetic rotting survivalists. well, that is, absolutely miserable people, but in a political sense. probably this is true, but the question is what's next? artyom is actually a question
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i also think it's the same as these events that began today from the point of view of the surrender of prisoners. this is also a certain radical change in the defense. azov became in fact, they surrendered. you remember the rhetoric, and these guys, a month and a half or two ago, a statement that they will fight to the last, no one will surrender in a blanket, the wounded will all be to the last, along with the fighters on the front line and support them there , bring uh, bk and so on , and now we see, in fact, that all those myths that there were a lot of created about these myths, but fakes were dispelled. e for the attraction of the entire special military operation with another fake, but it has become less. and that there really are some special forces there that are ready to go out there to the end. and now we have already risen before the surrender. this will greatly affect other units of the armed forces located at a different point,
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because they are treated completely differently. a certain myth that they don’t somehow do it all , they live some kind of life of their own, understanding information while being. e, what zakhar spoke about at the beginning, and at other points e on the territory of the lc. this is especially an indicator of how they will sprinkle now, and i will continue to say more. i literally called up the guys before the broadcast over the past three or four days. just a huge success. according to the work of our artists, the number of two hundredths. uh, on the territory of the country, sticking out the national battalions has simply increased significantly over the past 3-4 days . uh-huh, ours worked effectively and in boundary and in other territories. and now i think that in the continuation of this story, it just gives us the opportunity to move on, including in the information company, about moving on in the information company, by the
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way. in fact, it is also very good. uh, an interesting position, which is exactly the same, uh, it’s difficult, slowly and with effort, fortified areas are dealt with. in the same way, the myth about azov and these two these two tracks that run in parallel are disassembled. actually. it's very, very important, because today's ukraine, we have talked about it many times, such a largely invented fake state that it is possible to disassemble these fakes. and these notions are no less, and perhaps more important than dismantling and destroying all these fortified areas. but when you say, uh, about a radical change, about the fact that we are moving forward. yes, we are moving forward. yes, we moved 5 km away from the frontier, we took a lot, guys, they work there and let them work perfectly. although everything, it's not easy, but about the fracture. here i have a question fracture in motion, where in terms of the whole
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operation. here is no specific one of some military operations. well, i give an example from civilian life. i'm not saying that he generalizes everything, but here, for example, uh, they write to me on telegram a woman from genichesk, this is the kherson region, yes, who writes to me that the third month, as it were, the presence of russia there, she, and she, judging by the tone of her letter. she ends it with words. it's just not all the text in words. work brothers. we are waiting for you. that is, she, as it were, waited and waited for russia, and she writes that somehow the presence of the russian authorities there. she doesn't really notice. and this is the third month , and now, reaching fractures by very difficult paths at the front, by very difficult methods, and everywhere we are also intensively and also systematically advancing in the turning point in civil life. yes, right before the holidays. andrey turchuk, together with denis pushilin, the head of the dpr traveled from donetsk through
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mariupol, and in melitopol we drove through the new kakhovka and devoted the whole day to work in kherson, uh, met with the administration that has been formed there and this work is being built step by step. yeah, administrative, both in central districts and in small villages, of course, you can’t take everything to build on this. e, there for a day for two or three it all takes time and now i can say that there is a clear understanding. oh how will it be built? and most importantly, people were waiting, uh, and asking questions. we, as it were, zaporozhye and the kherson region. what's next? oh what? here's a look when you say it takes time to line up i agree, nothing is quick to line up. time, but time is needed depending on what we are building, we are building the russian federation here.

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