pushilin head of the dpr from e. we were in donetsk via mariupol and in melitopol we passed through the new kakhovka and devoted the whole day to work in kherson, met with the administration that was formed there and this work is being built step by step. yeah , administrative, both in central districts and in small villages, of course, you can’t take everything to build on this. e, there for a day for two or three it all takes time and now i can say that there is a clear understanding. oh how will it be built? and most importantly, that people were waiting, uh, and asking questions to us both zaporozhye and kherson region. what's next? oh what? look, when you say that it takes time to build i agree, nothing happens quickly in order to build it takes time, but time is needed depending on what we are building we are building the russian federation here on this territory

what - a russian province, or we are building some kind of separate state entity on this territory, or we are just building something, and then we will decide how we will call it the pace and depth penetration depends a lot. can i quote? she says anatolyevich pod, who said this see you on the residents, that, and russia is here forever talking about kherson about how it will be built in the future. and that territory. this also depends, among other things, on the pace of liberation e of certain neighboring regions, and the pace, uh, of the country’s military operations themselves and our armed forces, but i’m sure i communicate with people who will never return to this pseudo- the state of ukraine is 100%. and them the desire of their desire to become one of the subjects of the russian federation, do you understand what's the matter? the dpr lpr had a desire to become one of the

subjects of the russian federation for eight years. but everything has changed. i'm talking about your understanding. eh, so to speak, a young and promising russian politician. in general, this is it, right? understanding whether you and the people you work with have a clear understanding of what we are going to? they are? it is clear that they want to go to russia, many have been waiting, and so on, if russia is here forever, it was necessary to land a hundred united russia members there, that's all. and how would be edinorosy, and in this matter no. listen, there are our colleagues in the party, who are only innocent, the regime is delivered from our own humanitarian center with me. do not argue, i am there , and i am there. we work there, it's all right. i'm not as a claim. i say exactly what it would be to say. here ivan petrovich ivan sidorovich and salons moiseevich arrived , contact me, that’s exactly what artyom is saying. there are people on the spot who are responsible for certain territories that artyom authorized to work there as well soon. our boo will also open there. a separate large center

that will deal not only with, uh, helping some kind of, uh, unprotected population, or, uh, delivering humanitarian aid, oh, which will, among other things, organize this work on the territory of an administrative political important point is a very important point when you say, that we will open a center there that will, uh, deliver humanitarian aid. this is very important and i really and you and i, well, we crossed paths when we were there, really. very important. i really saw with my own eyes a volunteer company there. and, well, that is, the guys really work a lot of the case. but you understand that this is very important and necessary work. but this is such a regime, as if force majeure and maintenance, but life. yes, but this woman, for example, who wrote me one of the examples that they have an arbat arrow on this arbat arrow. they have some plots on these plots there. eh, they're confused now. what to do with these sites, as it is all this, that is, the provision of no force majeure provision of activities. state bodies they

say that this will work, among other things , to help form administrative units, including with the participation of volunteers and volunteers from the russian federation, which we started talking about at the beginning. well, here's your part. after all, any government is in addition to humanitarian centers for humanitarian assistance and life support, and so on. this is some e, power component non-military, a law enforcement officer. you and i started talking about this a month and a half ago, probably already, that many security officials, including security officials who left in 2014, are ready and could come in and start working there. they don’t really understand, among other things, what artyom and i were talking about now, and therefore, as it were, in general, they don’t understand what kind of maneuver they have. now you have more understanding among your colleagues and those who could assist in the organization of this part of the government. here's what's at the moment in terms of organization in general any public service, and public service. it is based on laws. in total, these laws are also being implemented, since

by-laws are written on the basis of laws, which are daily, for example, the police, or the security service of ukraine, or some other tax service implements and implements on the basis of the law. you question what laws there will begin to operate in this territory, so the public service will be built. if this territory starts russian laws will apply, respectively, the civil service will build its work on the basis of russian laws. if the laws of ukraine continue to work there, the civil service will accordingly. you are building there now. you probably, you know, you know, there are people out there who are somehow, uh, connected, yes, so today , uh? the structure of the state in terms of the vertical of subordination, it goes rather like this, you know

, momentary, that is, based on the situation, what it is, that is, first of all, they are trying to ensure law and order. well, that is, so as not to rob or kill. there, on the street, people could walk freely, move around, and so on, but this is not building a system. yeah, this is not some kind of system, and you must definitely come to this. and here is the understanding. e building the system. it is in my opinion. clearly connected in general with the whole operation. that is, where is the operation, where are its boundaries. what are the limits of this operation? and after that it will become clear what will happen next with this territory. what state will be built there. i talked about what is more correct for this period of time, do everything according to the principle that is known to us. the dpr declared its independence . the lpr declared its independence

. how should it be in those territories. in my opinion, who are released they should talk about their independence, aha and to establish the building system temporarily. let for some period time. i don’t know there for six months to a year, but it should stabilize and become systemic power there. that is, they must declare their independence. that is, i understand that you adhere to the point of view that now some kind of temporary administrative-political formations should be created in these territories, which they will then decide. hey, vote. maybe this referendum will be some kind of democratic, let's say, procedure that will allow. join the russian federation or to stay in the new formation that will be after

ukraine. i believe that ukraine will no longer be the same as it was, as a state, those people who, by the way, this woman, uh, i will not absolutize her view of what is happening. but here she writes to me, for example, that in that settlement where she lives there is a person who, well, you know, there is always, as it were, an active person. here he is, that he travels somewhere and helps people spend their money on it. and it's 35 km. there to dangle fuels and lubricants and so on there, how do you think that it will be easier for him and people like him, and to work and help people and somehow formalize themselves, knowing that it is not clear that for a while, and then someday under certain conditions or that , this is the russian federation. and they start working under the russian federation. i don't know the answer. i'm just asking. you know, i think that here these people are more driven by somewhat different moral principles, that is, his commitment to that, e

idea, or something, to that state, to those principles to those people who came he would like to support them, but this is in no way connected. well, in my opinion, with the construction of the state. but i just imagine that if a person wants to do something like that, it’s not a week, not a month, but it’s like, well, it’s one thing, he does it within the framework of the perspective of the russian federation, and another thing within the framework of the perspective of something when what prospects he does not have today, no one will give it so quickly. that's the most important problem. the key thing you said is the image of the future. what future can we offer these people sometimes. now i’m completely watching, you can learn from the enemy, for example, ukraine a week ago lifted all customs bans on fuel and lubricants manure, there are none, if you have a barrel of fuel and lubricants, import it on the territory of ukraine we have been unable to push our customs through for 2 months bulletproof vests helmets and protective devices. we still can’t do much, and they write letters to us. you know the stories why we

can't have the same law and so, change the law. lord you make them go then you know. the same situation. er, actually in many areas, you know? here we are talking about the internal enemy there, you know, there, here, uh, what will happen, tomorrow we are trying to restore order there. well, i'm sorry, if now in st. petersburg, let's say there, and he himself was a yell by the name of horses. uh, naming those who support the administration, supports our military operation for our countrymen. you understand for domestics, that is, animals and no one is engaged. so this is the society for the protection of cultural monuments, the one that is engaged in past. yes, in st. petersburg, which e declares that we are for domestics and no one is involved, you understand, not law enforcement agencies. no one, and you are not alone there, which means, why are there many vlads, there are many of them, and you know, society does not switch to the state of responsibility that we entered into, you understand everything and there is no image of the future. we are here.

inside, we don’t explain ourselves either, guys a. sorry, the future of these territories, not ours. they are now with us forever. we say, it's here in its own circle, and someone else is talking about it, you know, on in fact, this is a conversation when i ask about people who are not important there, and in kherson in the genetically kherson region or in kupyansk, uh, kharkov region, or there in uzlovaya where, for example, in uzlovaya we have a mayor who, well , , he stayed, and he works, and he really i met him personally, but he is like that, well, as if active, and he wants to and so on. well, these are not everywhere, but to put it mildly, well, they are less where they are than where they are not. yes, and accordingly. we, if we want to give some perspective and said that in the near future we will not give them, but. why do we give them? and because this person is from the peak zoo or something there, listen , here in russia there are no limits that would prevent him from saying all this, because a

special military operation is completely out there somewhere, but here on the territory of russia that this can be talk about anything. well, for example, i know that comrade we we have known each other for a very long time. he is an officer. uh, a special forces soldier also fought. now he works on the civil line. here i am from i know that there are people from the urals who simply do not announce anything. it’s not possible to promote this anywhere, they help a lot, they buy a lot of things, and copters, and moreover, it’s not only copters, there are thermal imagers and so on. here is the last shipment. so he told me bandages of blood stopping cops, which cost 2,000 rubles. which you need constantly many, many, many, many and many people. here including. well, in this case, i know that everyone does it from the urals . all this is sent and will continue to be done and and so on and so forth, but this is a very important, private initiative, but somehow it

remains like a private initiative, yes or there are compatriots, because there is another example for you. today they sent me a video from the dpr where this unmanned training center is open. yes, where the guys are trained, it means to work with drones. yes, it's wonderful, but let's, by the way, listen, as a representative. uh, a representative of just this center, uh, tells denis pushilin about how it all works. there are several important nuances that i want to discuss, please. so, here we have a line of drones that are now widely used by the armed forces, it has an optical stabilization system, plus everything, which allows you to stay in the conditions of satellite and control signal suppression. uh, we control the situation, guys, ah, the craftsmen of

donbass and that means here. uh made the reset system by yourself. it is battery operated servo drives. this tooth is attached to this tooth with a payload that allows you to hit opponents. why did i show you this fragment, because, well, you understand , this is the payload that is hung on the tooth. but relatively speaking, this is a grenade, which, if necessary, can be thrown off these words about the craftsmen of donbass. yes, the craftsmen of donbass do a lot of things. they are flashing these drones there and so on and so forth, but this is a very important moment for understanding this whole situation, the war has been going on for three months. yes, we are faced with the fact that this is very important and necessary topic without which to fight. today it is impossible, in general, from the word it means absolutely, this is the center. it just so happened that i know a little about it and i know where i wrote about it. well, somehow it says dobrovo- uh, the caring people of

smolensk, here, and artyom nods. he is also familiar with this caring people from smolensk who arranged all this. it’s just that they won’t talk about it, because what they do is people who brought not only these copters there for their money. they brought there from moscow specialists. with beautiful, therefore, call signs, a monk and a vandal, who have been there since the fourteenth year, who organized all this before my eyes there for their money. these people bring people who will be retrained there and go back to the war zone. i know two of these, personally, and this is all very important and necessary work. but this is all, in fact, within the framework of some private and personal initiative of caring people. now the question arises. maybe that's how it should be. maybe this is part of our, so to speak, this or all the same, how different it should be for the bureaucracy of our state. well, we won't reveal that this concerns a and the actual political apparatus and the military

apparatus. also, of course, we are all afraid to report to our immediate boss that something is missing somewhere, and all our problems are the misfortune of the death of our guys. it is connected with this rigid hierarchical system. it's good under certain circumstances, because if the solution is also comes like a skating rink to the bottom. and if something is not completed, then it is also unfinished throughout the entire size of this structure, by the way, this also applies to previous topics. uh , our uh, administrative work in the liberated territories, because well, we need someone like yermak from the administration, who yermak will come is the same cossack who will say all this is ours and our message there, they call their people their names, and from the phone and the same the same applies to the military sphere, alas, due to the fact that this is the case not only in this military company, such things happen, because that in smolensk in nizhny there are such guys centers that, uh, are ready to intellectually help our army. to fight there are rich people who can invest in it. yes, the business is ready to do it, the

business is ready to do it. we are talking about this business is ready to do it smolensk people in nizhny are ready to invest in other cities. we have to organize. to us these processes help us horizontally to this. eh, the verticals are too slow, alas, like this. you're like this, you're like this, that's what . one minute, a spicy and funny thing. it came to me a letter, that is, we are from the zone, was sent to me by his man, who is sitting from the zone from the zone. yes the man is behind an economic crime. he says, writes to me guys. we're very smart. we can do everything . you who are temporarily releasing us for economic reasons, if we do not solve this or that problem in 3 months, put us back. give tells us to rehabilitate. well, that is, he, in fact, he offers to open sharashkas quite accurately, roughly speaking, people who at one time or another just sit sewing, there are mittens. and i speak before. sorry, i stole 2 million. i can organize the production of drones right here on my knee only. well bye then. here is the letter he sent. this is what zakhar says that you need to be able to

solve non-standard ones, by the way, during the war, sharashkas worked that’s why, that people were sent from there to help the page, what’s the matter, vlad people shuddered in the offices when you said that, because there is no war. vlad, you just forgot. you are the wrong word. said no war. a special military operation, and in this sense, this is a very important issue. how to talk about a special military operation that is taking place somewhere to rebuild the entire system that would work for this special military operation, without calling it a war in the regime as a matter of fact. well, such wartime , because then only then will people appear who will think about how people, including those in the zones, are sitting under this, that is, when this phrase is everything for the front, everything is for victory. - how to take it, but she is on my mind. you see, from below, everything that people could do, they are already doing it endlessly , these money is collected endlessly, all this is being transported there, and from these people in lines on this rostovskaya it means, as it were, the borders that are

endless there, here, whoever is lucky and so further and the like, it can only come from above, yes, you understand, only from above, and then these horses will be in prison, and not tell any scum. here. yes, you wanted to add something. i'll just add really. why a large number of now i'm talking about our party. why big? the number of deputies now leaving in real time is not yesterday. they were the day before yesterday well, from the very beginning of the operation and being, you yourself know at the moment when only ours, for example, entered mariupol , they were already there. uh, my colleagues and i in order to including those problems that exist and the bureaucratic were quickly. yes, the information reached certain structures. i can say that dozens of problems have been solved, there are still some issues that will be detailed by you themselves, and you know better than me, but not better, but i know, but they are really solved, including in fact, we deliver humanitarian aid. i'm talking not only about some food, but also for through. uh, just compared to last month , uh, specialized cargo was getting there.

and how they do it now, but it's quite perfect. eh, different things questions here. i do know that many are leaving and many are making the question that in order for this system to work, all of this must be done. i see what happens to people when they get there, when they get into all this. you see, it starts somehow differently, spinning, and the balls are in the head, but we can’t bring the entire management structure, the entire bureaucratic structure, to everyone there, as it were , therefore, something is needed to make it happen without so that everyone goes there, and it works. so i will give one specific example of the fact that you don’t have to go anywhere for days. here is a man whom i have already spoken about many times, the father of a fighter who serves there, who collects money. yes you actually saw it. yes? what are we talking about, yes, that's it. yesterday i once again talked with him about such an interesting nuance about mobilization. the systems are not here, not in the area of ​​​​special military

operations, but in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe russian federation, crimea - this is the russian federation, russian, so he buys. another thing that is needed at the front for their money, well, for their own, which people collect. and people ask, and where to throw money? and he says, do you understand what's going on? i live in crimea on my card is inconvenient because i'm from crimea attention from the crimea, which since the fourteenth year of the russian i can not pay anything for the sums that are needed to buy this in russia, because only 100,000 is normally not normal. this and this and this. no war, no special military operation. it's just that somehow everything is arranged in such a way that people who live in crimea, they live, as if somewhere a little bit not quite in the russian federation well, in the state that it has changed. no, now russian central russian banks are entering, including their branches with opening, including on the territory of the lc, the key phrase. and we are talking about crimea, i understand, you

briefly wanted to add e, you know, here's a good phrase from a colleague. he correctly said that politics is the trade of the future. well, he said a little differently, well, this principle. and politicians should generally promise these territories of politics that they will continue to clearly define this future, you understand, and then everything will become clear to everyone from crimea, you correctly noted. it's true, it's a real question, crimea our. yes how many years why don't system banks work there? it's okay, there is a question. and this is what politicians should do clearly and clearly. you are my question. when asked, you asked for the civil service. i explained to you how, from my point of view, the civil service works. and here's the best way out of today's situation, which is why i said it's better to create a people's republic on its own, which will bring order to itself. and where is she going next, this is my point. i don’t know how to do it better to

discuss will draw her future. i only know one thing so that it all would be meaningless, so that it all had a purpose, ended with our victory. it is not a question of how we will change life in the liberated territories. this is a question of how we will change life here in the russian federation, how we will change it, and what image of the future we will change if we have it. time will tell, we continue to work live. here, yes, in pursuit of what was discussed in the previous part. here, as if about us, about the fact that we ourselves need to decide with ourselves that there yesterday, as i understand it, the crimean ones the other day are our mobile operators updated crimean tariffs, crimean tariffs. that is, crimea is not russia, it is foreign. it's just a reprise aside about the fact that we are, as it were, we are, as it were, opposed to the collective american-centric west. here are the

sales shares. well, it remains to find out how, as it were, who, because we cannot understand inside ourselves, here we have crimea, this territory of the russian federation, or we have something where roaming should be. this is so reprise aside important in the light of what we are going to talk about plans now. as a matter of fact, those very whom we oppose, what they do. how far are they willing to go. we were just talking about their plans to ourselves. what are they? what image of the future he draws for himself, but they obviously started this image of the future, how to redraw it, i don’t know how to repaint and redraw it. reschedule because, uh, there is a lot of discussion today about the application in finland , the application from sweden membership in nato, they were already told in response to this that, of course, in the most that is not well, as if the swedes are the same in the near future in all. uh, well, since the territorial claims, they have no conflicts. there is nothing. i think that everything is going like clockwork in a couple of months, but the

question arises when it will pass. what are they doing? well, let's hear the reaction. mr vladimir putin, the president of the russian federation today , there are a few interesting nuances to this decision to expand nato, please. as for expansion expansion of the north atlantic alliance yes, this is a problem that is being created. in my opinion , it is completely artificial, since this is done in the interests of the external and foreign policy interests of the united states in general, it should be used as an instrument of foreign policy, in fact. e of one country, well, it is being done quite persistently skillfully and will give, and very aggressively, this aggravates everything that is already difficult. uh, the international security environment , with regard to expansion, including through new members of the finnish alliance sweden in russia would like to inform you dear colleagues. there are no problems with these states, and therefore, in this sense, there

is no direct threat for us to expand at the expense of these countries for russia, but the expansion of military infrastructure into this territory will certainly provoke our response. and what it will be we will look at, based on the threats that will be created for us, that is, in general, the problem is created from scratch. this is the first interesting nuance for me, vitaly, that really problems are created from scratch. and finland, sweden, but for some reason they are being created for some reason. they formulate this and create this feeling that everything will be fast, fast, fast, fast. given that when vladimir putin says that we will respond appropriately to the expansion of military infrastructure. well, we all now have, as it were, an example of the fact that we reacted to the talk about expanding into the territory of ukraine, in an appropriate military and military-technical way, in your opinion, that

nevertheless this is being done. why is this within what picture of the world and image of the future? i just wanted to respond to this information, i don’t know how accurate it is about increasing the tariff for mobile communications in the russian crimea upwards. it's just that the tariffs are changed. i don't know the tariff solution. well, then it means that there are some separate crimean tariffs. in general, according to the laws of the russian federation, we have roaming on the territory. russian federation, yes, yes, but here i would still like to say, here we see how western countries. i mean here a network of european countries that are under the iron heel of nato now i will return to this, answering your questions against their own economic interests private companies. enduring, the losses act as they were told to exit in the

washington trench. democracy seems to reign there. well, they explained it like that, they themselves say, why are we where? as we are told, there is no auto-storied administrative democracy in democracy. why do our respective companies do not obey political decisions and why cannot they give solutions. so i can’t understand this, it feels like democracy has diminished too much in our country. and we will have too much. well, by the way, now the extension is not needed, that means. nato performs several functions and military functions are not primarily military-defensive. not the most important. although now they say that she seems to be, if we attack someone else, and then it will all sparkle with new colors, but in principle, no one until at least the event. e, that is, yes, here is the beginning of this year, even in the fourteenth year

could say. and who can attack the nato countries as a whole, or at least one side of nato. that's who can from africa from asia who doesn't know this. uh, so the date has long been performing other functions and one of these functions. rather, i will call the door functions, i will answer your questions. uh, this is an extension of the geographical formal subordination by american interest, and in this case, the countries of europe, therefore, uh, in principle, the finns. and the swedes are not politically neutral scans. they are also being mastered by the american military infrastructure. yes, and so on. all this is good. known. so, you are saying that they are not politically neutral countries, but before that they could not be, without entering nato. now they must enter it. that is, they are built into some kind of new geopolitical

reality that they propose. this is reality. eh, well, what i said, i even told you that the historical reality was the direct union as hitler's germany in world war ii, sweden formally, while remaining a secret country, supplied. uh, nazi germany became so much. how much germany needed, besides, there is much more , that is. e, as we said, this is the fourth reich, that's just e now e got his members. sometime here remained for some time, except for austria remaining detailed. this is the first task under the iron noose , and in this sense, uh, you need uh, in my opinion, our policy is too telgent external, and it is finalizing something to me. nato has swallowed up the european union. nato has swallowed the iron hoop. i am his union. we can't tell them to split it.