well, it’s clear that it’s like how they all put pressure on russia together. but it turns out that they are putting pressure on russia in one place. but it turns out that in the same place or from below, an even larger bubble comes out, with which they begin to put pressure on themselves. and here they are hanging out all the time in this situation, the pudding, by the way, spoke about it. here it is exactly today. it seems to me, very uh, very bright and figuratively also describing this situation. i have a feeling that vladimirovich owned, you know, he was watching somehow. well, uh, i loved, uh, as a child. that's when you go into this zoo, there was terraria at the entrance and there, that means that there you swallow them with a mouse. and so it means, so, it seems to me that vladimir vladimirovich somewhere has such a feeling that here he is standing and somewhere he is watching how some kind of life is going somewhere in terraria. well, i have the impression that the tone he talks about is, listen economic auto-dafi suicide is, of course , the internal affairs of european countries. we must act pragmatically, proceeding primarily from

own economic interests. now the result, let's face it, is the chaotic actions of our partners. well, in addition to the damage to the european economy itself, there is also an actual increase in the revenue of the russian oil and gas sector. of course, we need to keep such a factor in mind, we understand this, we see it, but this should not discourage us. our company's change in the oil market is tectonic and doing business as before, and the old model already, of course, seems unlikely in the new environment is important not just to extract oil, but also to build the entire vertical chain up to the end consumer. well, that is, when i listened to vladimir putin, i got it. this is the association that i described to you, you need to describe it more simply. it’s really true that we uttered this phrase many times in the studio and this is

the hedgehogs crying. uh, they injected, but continued to eat the cactus. i can not understand why these hedgehogs continue to eat this cactus, although well, putin so the guys tell them. well actually. it's like your business. you can prick yourself in some other place even harder than you already pricked. but it doesn't seem like it ends with anything. especially since there is a lot ahead. what, that is. here, they have already written that they have reached the limit on anti-russian sanctions. question limits. what are the other limits? they may soon reach, because, for example, there is already news that wheat prices have also increased due to the emborg . here, that is, prices for wheat rose somewhere and, uh, uh right there, they sit there somewhere in europe or there in the british isles and they say, like, oh, well, that's trouble. a black man in africa will have nothing to eat. no, it’s not what will be possible to eat, but already in general, there’s definitely nothing

to eat, there’s nothing to eat, but for the british, because sky news reports this british sky news reports that the british have already begun to skip meals due to for the rising cost of living, including the cost of electricity supply, that is, it is not something that, as it were, was invented somewhere by themselves they state it, so at the beginning of the program we started talking about this fake bubble. it’s like you have to find yourself in this bubble in order to continue all this against the background of this, but it’s true, they’re already here, so we mean, everything was built because of ukraine, so we need to somehow get out of this at the expense of ukraine , and oh and here. they say ukraine, we saved you once in the war. we will save you now with wheat, they themselves say that the british are here right now, we will help them, they say that the ukrainians will help you now, once again, here are the prices for wheat. we have grown a lot and now we will help you again. how can you help,

the ukrainians ask, and the barrels answer, how they will help. we must help ukraine continue to produce and export grain wheat. ukraine's storage is now full and needs to be emptied to make room for new crops. we are working to bring this grain to this , all ways are considered, including the sea. the problem is that everything is mined there. it’s just that alice’s forests and basilio the cat, that is, we are here there is nothing to eat because of our sanctions, which we announced from ukraine, which means that ukraine has it all , and we have it. now we will help to bring out their grain, which they have a granary, so that, as it were, here they are, something like a new crop, while a person cannot help but understand what a new crop is. where does this new crop come from? and most importantly, because everything is blocked there, i wonder who replaced everything there, who is it? is everything stuck in there? it's putin that's not there. it 's all ukrainians there, that is, we force ukrainians to do everything mine going crazy, then we say that we will

now understand. so, let's help him, how to bring out some kind of wheat, it's just sur, is it sur or what? this is a policy that looks like everything. or is this the sur that is passed off as politics. you know, there is such a concept of contradiction, this is a contradiction in reality and in the policy of the west, because, uh, the west could appear consolidated and can appear consolidated only when it is on the eastern front. everything works out when they get the maidan in kiev when they have uh, what didn’t happen, it turns out something in belarus, then they are very consolidated, their contradictions are all minimal, but as soon as they start to slip or as soon as the process starts to get out of control, it turns out that there are a lot, a lot of different interests and it starts devouring each other. and these are not mice. they are already devouring, they would be happy to eat another mouse in the east of europe, very

large, maybe a mouse, so in their view, a mouse up to kazakhstan, they would have reached well it turns out that you need to eat each other, and this is such self-criticism and it expresses these contradictions, if we talk directly about the european union, then the next story is the brussels bureaucracy. and there is the national administration of the brussels bureaucracy. can order national administrations. only when they agree with this, if they agree to carry it out, then orders, they reach and are implemented. and if you don’t agree, then it’s precisely in the brussels bureaucracy that he allows all sorts of reservations that we do not recommend, but we do not yet have a final decision russian gas, of course, is very bad and oil is very bad and we do not advise you at all. well, if you need it, well, buy it, this is a duality, because if they order, they will be ignored, and they will ignore it at the level of one and the other side. uh, and it turns out

that brussels politicians are no longer so authoritative, especially since they are generally not authoritative in society, which are in most eurozone countries. how exactly, uh, you have little idea where they are from started. here you are talking to me about that. that what i perceive as a kind of sur, and you call it inconsistency, but basically it has what was indicated and more and more conflict is brewing between the european union management and national governments. i would say even easier. eh, you said everything correctly, where did the mice go, they began to eat each other. yeah, it’s clear from your point of view what is happening in this terrarium of like-minded people. uh, high civilized and democratic. uh, the world has entered the stage hypercompetition. and those who used to be allies of the united states have become competitors. and now the united states has three adversaries, in fact, they are russia and china. this is declared in the highest level doctrinal documents, see national security. and there is the european union, which is also an adversary competitor, which they are now finishing off. and now we can say that our president putin has

chosen the very correct word autofa. what this means is the solemn process of the burning of heretics. eh, they're heretics. ethics, because to support nazism to support the revisionist trends of fascism to support the situation when we are deleted, as a people, as an economy and, uh, in general, russia is canceling this. well, actually, it is too. well, uh, not likely. uh, similar to christian virtues. yes, this is the same business at the same time, you understand that politicians have gone crazy and when the company is a private company in italian, but it is a private company that opens accounts with gazprombank, and all other companies. uh, he is the same, austrian fowl they uh, the government say, well, yes, we are at the

government level against. yes, we will not open. they are also private. yeah, who can forbid them, that is, the brussels bureaucracy, the national government, who hang out between them, a business that is trying to survive and that's it. they arrange it. yourselves absolutely for sure, and you know in our world. only the laws of physics, human law, apply. sometimes they work, and these laws of physics are the laws of a lever. uh, they are just uh, the more they press on themselves, and their shoulder the longer they have a larger economy, respectively, and the impact on them. eh, it's also colossal. and if we're talking about what's ahead, uh, a crisis, they 've already gone into recession and inflation. and that means inflation. this is the worst thing from the point of view of economists. what could be, uh, for the world economy, and then it gets even worse, that is, we are in this situation, as if sitting and watching, when they have such inflation, there is complete suffocation, and so on. that is, we have to be patient for a while and they are like kirdyk, which does not mean we are like that

you were warned. uh, we also have great difficulties in the economy. yes, it's just a race. yes we need to re-industrialize the economy. we need to replace imports that we have not yet managed to do with us. there is very little time, because i believe that this package of sanctions, of course, cannot pass, because they will not kill themselves, but everything related to technology. look, he left us, yes, well, they tell us, uh, do it yourself well? we will make these diesel locomotives ourselves and so on, but not right away. yes, and we have a whole program in aviation, but not immediately with us, uh, renault uh, respectively, uh, the advanced in moscow , we will make the moscow government moskvich, but not immediately required. now see the first two amateurish questions. you say we don't have much time. i immediately ask about the disks. how much less than a year less than a year, and then you say we will do this this this, but not immediately. it doesn't cover right away. uh, a year will fit into a year or

longer, and if it doesn't fit, what will happen between the year we have and the fact that we haven't done anything yet at this point, what will take place cycling in our climate. yes, unfortunately. uh, so the central bank thinks, uh, in their report, that we are likely to have a temporary recession in the economy. i don't think so for one simple reason. and we have a resource that will throw out our economy. what donbass do you understand in uh. look, there is such a concept in economic science as post-conflict recovery. and i understood you. and when the restoration of some regions after the war begins, then those resources that are used for restoration. they immediately load the capacities of metallurgy. here they load the capacity of construction equipment. that is, not only russia but also belarus there is the same thing. uh, mechanical engineering, there are tractors and so on. yes, and this money is spent here with us and those, uh, people who will work there, receiving

a salary. they will also spend money. this money will not go here. yes, this is the resource that will allow us. here is the moment of the fall of the economy, which occur due to the fact that we are so. import notice, just here to support our the economy afloat and give us the opportunity this is the right time to have time to rebuild. the only thing is that for this it will inevitably have to be some completely different side, which understands everything or will be made to understand that we have sagged in one place. we make up for it in another place. this is restoring the donbass, and political information work is also very important, which, in my opinion, has not even begun yet. well, now you started it, i just welcome the categorical words, because that donbass in the representation of many of our people. this is what we have to do. how to save it. in fact , donbass can become a growth driver for us, that is, not just retention, but also the growth and integration of these regions. you see, in the ninety- first year, everything collapsed with us. the chain

collapsed. and now we are going to gather the country now in the fourth year in the report that was made by the central committee there was an answer to the question. how to destroy the ussr to put a border between the urals sash, look here. here i am, imagine that i am a man who now on the couch so it means that in about a year i will have some difficulties to replace siemens, while there is nothing to replace renault with, there is nothing to replace it with. yeah, but how will we restore, donbass well, that's it, i'm calm. explain to him how it works. everything is now. i'll try my best to be very short. we all know the options. only everyone already knows that yes in the world, that is, the time for this counterattack. putin chose ideally, because the world is already on fire, financially and economically. fuel - energy is now food migration, but all these world crises. we didn't launch them. we took advantage of this. and now here is a question about europe. what is the managerial crisis little talked about, as a result of all of these, and as a result, against the backdrop of the collapse

of the managerial collapse of the european union, countries such as hungary, turkey and others will themselves begin to look for ways to jump out of the sanctions and cooperate with us. this is an additional resource for us, we will be able to use it, and then we are already opening the gates, as if those who do not give a damn, they will let sasha jump out there, and the managerial effect is that they do not will be able to tame them. they can't hold them because they can't order them. they will behave like iran, you want our oil to compensate us for 20 years for what we lost because of you from that kind of money. right now, at the moment when you need to finish at this moment, because now i will start asking questions , it will turn out that everything is not as good as you told me, but sometimes it is necessary, as it were, somehow. well, that's why advertising here is not frightened advertising on channel one. vanga premier's prophecy

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now we are returning to the main topic of today's news about azovstal, now news has come that investigators will interrogate the surrendered militants who were hiding at the azovstal mariupol plant. we already talked about this today and asked many questions. i think dmitry steshin special correspondent of komsomolskaya pravda knows all the questions, which many of us have about what is happening, what will happen, and how all this is explained now dmitry will tell us all this good afternoon. how do you hear us tell well. eh, well, what, what pissed them off? yes, at 7:00 in the morning the guys from the battalion of the east who controlled the tunnel, and through which, uh, the azov people got

out into the floodplain. suddenly they saw white flags, five people leaned out. there was a guy with them in a dark brown uniform, about 15 years old. uh the bones seem to be his the name of this guy lived. uh, for the last two months in a supply room in one of the workshops on the surface, not underground, and there was no injury, no stunned. here, well, just here, uh, god kissed him in the subject. they took this guy out. well, as a symbol of some kind of good will, the will was already working with them, the negotiation group, and then everything quickly spun around, by one o’clock sappers appeared from the side of azov, they all had weapons, but everyone had weapons behind their backs, and cobra pistols, well, everything insignia of azov ukrainian flags two-color sappers began to clear the passage under the railroad line

. there they found themselves laying mines simply. a terrifying amount of waterfront avenue was also mined. moreover, the mines were camouflaged under empty zinc from e-cartridges, in tanks it usually crushes, well, ordinary military garbage, yes, but inside these zinc there was a fuse from an anti-tank mine and plasticine packaging. i talked to them, i was struck by the fact that they were too clean. is that how it seemed? yes, they said that they had water. technical water in the pipes, they even showed me pipes. and through which the water passed, one must understand that this is a steel production. it is very energy and water. capacious, he says, the water was of decent quality. you don’t even need to filter to make tea, but they ran out of food 9 days ago and the wounded, in which they then dragged them there, looked like a few hours later. so, in principle, before sunday would most of them should not. all

the young guys are very expensive, well-equipped, the battalion, the battalion, more precisely, half the goat was very well supplied, but you have to understand that, apart from azov, there it was there that they were chsniks, ukrainian and coastal crown and people from the mariupol border police detachment. here was the hut. for example, i talked to him in the subway. they didn't look into our eyes, uh, and they didn't look at the asphalt either, they weren't scared, but they were on edge and very tense. here i have comrades, a militiaman who fought from poltava from 14, left with one of the fighters of azov from mariupol. they talked for about an hour face to face. i didn't bother them. yes, they both fought from the fourteenth year. but i also talked to them. i am i say, well, i'm looking, but a comrade of the militia

with vlad says, here we all change into tracksuits and put on a bench. nobody will understand. who from the battalion vostok dpr who from the regiments no also asked why she quarreled so bloodily , fought there, i don’t know, it’s just a more cruel war. i have been to many soldiers, i have not seen a more cruel war than we have in the donbass and, uh, eighteen-year-old boy nazar from lviv, i heard ukrainian speech for the first time in several months. he said that people on lyudyn pushed people, but people collided with people. let's say. so, well, they talked about the motives, why they decided to give up, then according to them. here is the bombardment of azov steel, which went on, but without stopping, probably for a month. i live there just in a battalion near azov, i can hear about 10 km there for a full-fledged one in order to fully open the bunker, and the fact is 500 bombs, and a landmine for a 500 kg aerial bomb should

hit one place three times. the first bomb folds the workshop, the second outlines a funnel and the third one that fell into the same funnel, but already breaks through, as if the vaults of a bomb shelter. but they're not really like that. i understand they were afraid, but according to them. yes, uh, they played counter-strike, such a game was shot, because they had an internal network laid between the bunkers, they worked. the modem was here until the last moment, when the commander of the battalion of the east announced that they appeared there at 7:00 in the morning, which means that the first who wanted to surrender and published a post there in an hour and a half, they immediately went to azov steel, therefore, in fact, they asked that did not have no filming. uh. they were afraid of something and dmitry excuse me for interrupting you. these are just two very point questions, but the first one is important for me. but this is their condition e not to shoot and why are we going to this condition

, although they give up the second. why do they surrender without weapons please? we agreed to this, to these conditions, so as not to frighten them away and, in general, to start this process of surrender. yes, and the negotiating group found their weak point, they managed to prove that kiev does not need them alive, but dead heroes are needed, and most of them are young guys. they are not yet ready to become dead heroes. it is clear that there are weapons and weapons, without which they surrender, and this is the condition not to shoot. it's just, roughly speaking , to push them to the understanding that, well, as it were, people are waiting for them here. they are animals, well, of course, yes, with a little apprehension. you also said, maybe how the negotiator acted, because these sappers or callers, they then returned to the plant and had to tell and tell how they communicated with them yes i offered them cigarettes. there, caramel, uh, like

that, well, they said, just like a human being, yes, and this, maybe the communication finally provoked a wave of exit, and the sappers went out to clear the road for, uh, a corridor for surrender with weapons. well, all the good ones were behind us, but from yes , the process of surrender began. they are straight ahead, which means they are under the railway station. uh , armored personnel carriers, weapons, helmets and so on threw themselves off the overpass. well, they went, in fact, in some t-shirts there. someone there had a bundle with some things in their hands. understandably thank you very much dmitry very interesting details. we'll talk more about this. i am so on this process will continue. thank you very much. it was dmitry steshin hello. by the way, from alexander kazakov well, here is the news about the last minutes the ministry of justice of russia informs that the administrative case on the recognition of the ukrainian paramilitary nationalist association. azov terrorist organization and the ban on its activities on the territory of the russian federation scheduled for trial on may 26 in

the building of the supreme court of the russian federation if azov is recognized as such, no extradition. as i understand it, there can’t be azov, and then time will tell, but now a big game will show, don’t switch. good evening, the information channel on the first live continues the big game today may 17 the day when the moment of truth came and came, president putin made a statement that western countries, trying to put a barrier in the way of russian energy carriers, commit self-immolation of the president's press secretary.

dmitry peskov bluntly stated that those countries that impose sanctions against us are not unfriendly countries. these are countries that are hostile to us, including, first of all, the united states of america lavrov rightly noted that ukraine, in general, is not needed by anyone. and in fact, it simply acts as a consumable hybrid total war that the west is waging against the russian federation. and, of course, the moment of truth has come for those fighters of gangs who have defended azov steel until recently. they declared that they would resist to the last drop of blood. they compared themselves to the defenders of the brest fortress, but the comparison turned out to be

wrong to compare them. now you can only with the paulus army in stalingrad, they also stayed surrounded for 2 months. but then , like a nice little paulus, with raised hands, he left the basement of the central department store of stalingrad , along with his fighters and, yes, representatives of other nations who also ended up in the stalingrad cauldron. it really is the brightest. uh, today's event, but not the only thing. a special military operation, which is now going on very successfully on all fronts , and yuri ivanovich is closely following this, our permanent military expert, yuri ivanovich, good evening. good evening. let's start with azov steel. yes, of course, this is the central event. well, that

is, according to the data that is now in the official , so to speak, it is not official, but nevertheless the public sphere. this is up to 2,500 people. they settled down there , they give up in small groups, there are 20-30 up to 80 people out there. well, basically, it's okay with taking into account the fact that well, understand that if 2,000 people immediately come there, then they will be needed. well, do not shoot the same and in the end, so they gradually give up this process will take. i think for a few more days, that is, they will naturally gradually be separated from each other, because the fighters of these so-called azov have become, although there are about 800 bandits from azov, but it turns out 2/3 are soldiers. usually soldiers vushniki. and by the way, who, including the wounded, can be exchanged for russian prisoners of war. by the way, this would be very correct, probably the solution. but the azov people should be judged , shown to me by the court, which i am sure are in donetsk in luhansk and, uh, they will receive what they deserve . that is, most likely, what else is there

that this one is trying for a couple of days. well, it’s clear what to resist. nobody will be there anymore , they are morally broken, like the paulus soldiers of the first pure february, that is, resistance is organized. they are absolutely incapable. that is, everything in mariupol can be put on a big bold winning point, but no less important events are now take place in the donbass gradually, you know, one cauldron firstly passes into the second . unfortunately, there is no cauldron in the severodonetsk region, but everything is gradually moving towards this, uh, the last denominator. i want all the same from the izyum direction. here, russian troops, making a grouping, begin to test the soil. well, as if repulsing armed counterattacks. ukraine is a long strategic point, as i showed yesterday, they are starting to prepare for an attack in the slavyansk region and artillery strikes have already been launched today air strikes. that is, this is a prelude to the fact that the offensive here will be continued, but the main events flare up, of course, at the level of severodonetsk, that is, there, first of all, it should